Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Monday, July 17, 2017

Over the past two years, many thousands of broadcast hours and probably millions of words have been devoted to Donald Trump's relationship with the truth. Equally, the President has made accusations of dishonesty and bias against the media and his political opponents a central part of his persona and presidency.

What lies are told about the President? Is he lying when he makes these allegations? In a feverish atmosphere of claim and counterclaim, when everyone seems to reflexively accuse everyone else of "fake news", it can be difficult to know what's what.

There are many articles that exist detailing lies and misleading claims made by the Trump administration. This article is intended as a neutral, reliable analysis of the lies, false allegations and misleading claims made about and against Donald Trump since his inauguration in January 2017...

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Interesting that left-leaning Snopes would put this together.

#1 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-07-17 01:25 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

Snopes is not left leaning. It is truth leaning, but we all know that facts have a left wing bias.

#2 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2017-07-17 03:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 6

When it comes to political issues, Snopes is VERY left-leaning.

#3 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-07-17 03:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 4 | Newsworthy 1

"Snopes is not left leaning. It is truth leaning,"

To righties the truth is left leaning.

#4 | Posted by danni at 2017-07-17 04:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

To righties the truth is left leaning.

#4 | POSTED BY DANNI

Do you agree with Snopes on this?

#5 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-07-17 04:14 PM | Reply

Heffy, even were Snopes correct about each instance they site, the number excused lies they come up with would amount to single digits as a percentage of his public lies... at best.

T r u m p ' s L i e s

www.nytimes.com

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2017-07-17 04:31 PM | Reply

When it comes to political issues, Snopes is VERY left-leaning.

#3 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-07-17 03:48 PM | Reply | Flag

See your ignorance is showing. Snopes is an independent source which the owners live in CANADA.

#7 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-07-17 06:18 PM | Reply

Come on Jeff, you know better than to post something that completely obliterates the DR Left's favorite narratives:

Broadly speaking, most of the falsehoods leveled against Trump fall into one or more of four categories, each of them drawing from and feeding into four public personas inhabited by the President.

They are:

Donald Trump: International Embarrassment
Trump the Tyrant
Donald Trump: Bully baby
Trump the Buffoon.

Some of these claims are downright fake, entirely fabricated by unreliable or dubious web sites and presented as satire, or otherwise blatantly false. But the rest -- some of which have gained significant traction and credibility from otherwise serious people and organizations -- provide a fascinating insight into the tactics and preoccupations of the broad anti-Trump movement known as "the Resistance," whether they were created by critics of the President or merely shared by them.

Generally speaking, we discovered that they are characterized and driven by four types of errors of thought:

Alarmism
A lack of historical context or awareness
Cherry-picking of evidence (especially visual evidence)
A failure to adhere to Occam's Razor -- the common-sense understanding that the simplest explanation for an event or behavior is the most likely.

Infused throughout almost all these claims, behind their successful dissemination, is confirmation bias: the fuel that drives the spread of all propaganda and false or misleading claims among otherwise sensible and skeptical people.

All around the DR blogsphere, liberal heads are exploding.

#8 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-07-17 06:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

"All around the DR blogsphere, liberal heads are exploding."

Why? Because there's one lie from critics for every 100 lies by Trump and his associates?!?

This is worry about someone else's fleck, while carrying a log in your own eye.

#9 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-07-17 06:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Why? Because there's one lie from critics for every 100 lies by Trump and his associates?!?

#9 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2017-07-17 06:58 PM

*bang*

#10 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-07-17 07:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

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"A failure to adhere to Occam's Razor -- the common-sense understanding that the simplest explanation for an event or behavior is the most likely."

So what does Occam's Razor say about so many Trump appointees that failef to disclose ties and meetings with Russia?

Once is being forgetful, twice is a coincidence... but what is Manafort, Kushner, Sesdions, and Donald Jr all forgetting all that they've forgotten?

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-07-17 07:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'll agree that there are some lies being advance by some of trumps detractors. But that hardly excuses the massive amount of lies and disinformation from trump and his cronies. The president of the united states should be above this kind of ridiculous behavior. The fact that you don't hold a republican president to a higher standard than the citizenry says something about your party over country attitude.

So rather than hold the republican but-wipe in the oval office to a higher standard of honesty and integrity, you want to point to the oppositions transgressions to give you cover so you can forgive his horrible behavior.

#12 | Posted by schmanch at 2017-07-17 07:06 PM | Reply

So what does Occam's Razor say about so many Trump appointees that failef to disclose ties and meetings with Russia?

#11 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2017-07-17 07:04 PM

*tiny little poof*

#13 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-07-17 07:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

So rather than hold the republican but-wipe in the oval office to a higher standard of honesty and integrity, you want to point to the oppositions transgressions to give you cover so you can forgive his horrible behavior.

#12 | POSTED BY SCHMANCH AT 2017-07-17 07:06 PM

*boom*

#14 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-07-17 07:17 PM | Reply

FTA:
Conclusion

It has to be acknowledged that since January, many of Trump's opponents, and even lukewarm supporters, have found considerable fault with his policies and behavior, based on accurate facts. There have been many occasions when Trump himself, undistorted and unfiltered, contributed mightily to the four personas we have outlined.

So some lefties exaggerate how much of a douche little d is, it is just locker room talk.

#15 | Posted by bored at 2017-07-17 07:24 PM | Reply

"There have been many occasions when Trump himself, undistorted and unfiltered, contributed mightily"

Just ask the NFL.

Or the auditors at the IRS.

Or Jared's lawyers, who told Trump of the emails when Jared changed his SF-86, and not "a few days ago".

There's a two-word phrase for what Trump is, and one of those words is pathological.

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-07-17 07:28 PM | Reply

So some lefties exaggerate how much of a douche little d is, it is just locker room talk.

#15 | Posted by bored at 2017-07-17 07:24 PM

*kablamm*

#17 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-07-17 09:15 PM | Reply

it is just locker room talk.

Whoa, be very careful, that comment could be construed as contributing to rape culture.

#18 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-07-17 09:17 PM | Reply

"#4 | POSTED BY DANNI
Do you agree with Snopes on this?"

Pretty much but I think that Trump and his band of "forgetful" cohorts gives us so much ammunition that really we don't have to lie. I'm sure some go over the top but for the most part Trump and his administration have earned the coverage they've received. It's been a steady stream of lies revealed. associations denied then admitted, it's all sort of ridiculous and that is how it is being reported.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2017-07-17 09:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

ObamaCare repeal is DEAD. I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#20 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-07-17 10:13 PM | Reply

Some ditzy person posted number 20. Please delete this one and that one too.

#21 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-07-17 10:15 PM | Reply

each of them drawing from and feeding into four public personas inhabited by the President.
They are:
Donald Trump: International Embarrassment
Trump the Tyrant
Donald Trump: Bully baby
Trump the Buffoon.

Seems spot on to me.

The issue, IMO, isn't that these are untrue, it's that many get over-excited and try to misfile "Trump the Buffoon" level stuff into the other categories.

Otherwise I've yet to identify a redeeming quality in that 300lb bag of chewed orange bubblegum.

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2017-07-18 01:08 AM | Reply

*tiny little poof*
#13 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Excuse you.

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2017-07-18 01:10 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Great, now we have to evacuate the aircraft.

#24 | Posted by TheTom at 2017-07-18 02:44 AM | Reply


Donald Trump: International Embarrassment
Trump the Tyrant
Donald Trump: Bully baby
Trump the Buffoon.

wtf? those are not lies ...nor are they false.

#25 | Posted by ichiro at 2017-07-18 02:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

but what is Manafort, Kushner, Sesdions, and Donald Jr all forgetting all that they've forgotten?

It is so odd to see all these men with such advanced alzheimers all employed in the cabinet.

It is almost like they are hiding something.

#26 | Posted by 726 at 2017-07-18 07:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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