Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Friday, July 14, 2017

The Russian lawyer who met with the Trump team after a promise of compromising material on Hillary Clinton was accompanied by a Russian-American lobbyist -- a former Soviet counter intelligence officer who is suspected by some U.S. officials of having ongoing ties to Russian intelligence, NBC News has learned. NBC News is not naming the lobbyist, who denies any current ties to Russian spy agencies. He accompanied the lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, to the June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower attended by Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort. The Russian-born American lobbyist served in the Soviet military and emigrated to the U.S., where he holds dual citizenship. Veselnitskaya acknowledged to NBC News that she was accompanied by at least one other man, though she declined to identify him.

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Wow, another head-scratching find within Junior's emails:

Natalia Veselnitskaya was not the only Russian at the meeting. The emails refer to two Russians attending the meeting with Kushner, Manafort and Trump Jr. -- Veselnitskaya and another individual who she told the Times was an interpreter. She declined to name the person. www.huffingtonpost.com
Anyone want to fathom a guess that this second Russian 'interpreter' is a known agent/employee of the Russian government itself? Perhaps it's a simple english-speaking employee of her firm, but if that was the case, why the reticence to name the individual?

Deeper and deeper.

POSTED BY TONYROMA AT 2017-07-11 03:04 PM

I think I'm starting to get the hang of this confederacy of dunces and their repeated lies and machinations. Their deceit against American values and mores is breathtaking.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-07-14 08:15 AM | Reply

#1

Too cool and too entitled to be smart or honest.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2017-07-14 08:19 AM | Reply

drip drip drip drip drip drip

#3 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-07-14 08:32 AM | Reply

I hope they send that old lady out with more papers with words on them that end in the letters "ion."

Maybe switch it up and make the words rhyme with "treason."

Season.

Reason.

Beeson.

Eason.

Gleeson.

Etc.

#4 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-07-14 08:38 AM | Reply

Now they are saying there may have been 6 people in the room.

And does anyone else find it peculiar how donnie dealmaker started talking about "a MAJOR announcement" regarding crooked Hillary's emails whilst all of this was happening?

#5 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-07-14 08:47 AM | Reply

After witnessing the difficulty that my son and his Ukrainian wife have had with her immigration I have to wonder how this guy could have immigrated and then qualified for citizenship, and dual citizenship with Russia?????? Really???? This is so wrong. And just why is his name not given???? I honestly do not believe that you can actually be a "former member or Russian intelligence" and still be alive. This was, obviously, Putin's man in the room.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2017-07-14 09:19 AM | Reply

The other person involved is Vladimir's little brother, Jimmy Putin.

This was actually a bit of serendipity, though.

Jimmy, you see, was there on holiday. He USED to holiday in Paris, but Paris, it seems, isn't Paris anymore.

#7 | Posted by RevDarko at 2017-07-14 09:24 AM | Reply

This whole thing gets more and more suspicious. Natalia Veselnitskaya had been denied a visa but then the DOJ gave her a special entry document for a court case almost a year before this meeting so how did she enter the United States for this meeting and why are we, just now, being informed that there was a Russian spy present at the meeting and why can't we know his name and how does a Russian spy gain American citizenship while still, obviously, working for the Russian government? We are approaching treason in a very rapid progression of details as they are made public.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2017-07-14 09:45 AM | Reply

The dual citizenship Russian's name is being withheld because he's also an American citizen claiming that he has no current connection to the Putin government. But any curious person would have to ask just how and why was he a participant in this meeting that was advertised in the email to Trump Jr. as being about Russian government contacts wanting to disclose damning information of possible Clinton illegal acts with Russian nationals? And how did he come to accompany a Russian national who was part of the legal team fighting the case the DOJ was prosecuting against those accused of stealing from the Russian treasury itself?

There is no plausible explanation for his presence as one benefiting any American interest but for that of the Trump campaign imo. Maybe someone else could think of another reason for him to accompany Veselnitskaya, I'm all ears.

#9 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-07-14 09:58 AM | Reply

No one is ever a "former" soviet spy.

#10 | Posted by 726 at 2017-07-14 10:08 AM | Reply

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Alan Futerfas, the attorney retained by Donald Trump Jr., told NBC News two other people accompanied Veselnitskaya to the meeting -- someone Futerfas described as a translator and someone he described as a "friend of Emin [Agalarov]'s and maybe as a friend of Natalia [Veselnitskaya]'s."

Futerfas said he has talked with that individual. "He is a U.S. citizen. He told me specifically he was not working for the Russian government, and in fact laughed when I asked him that question." www.nbcnews.com

Well that settles it! Junior's lawyer asked the Russian-born lobbyist and former spy if he was connected to the government and he laughed and said no.

Are these attorneys morons? Can't any member of the Trump family find counsel that can actually walk and chew gum at the same time? So they ask a former spy if he's a spy and he tells them no, so that's the end of that. No follow up, no background investigation, just accept him at his word.

Wow....

#11 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-07-14 10:09 AM | Reply

I guess this is going to keep all your false hopes alive until you can manufacture another story.

#12 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-07-14 11:44 AM | Reply

Sounds to me like Kushner was doing his damnedest to keep from reporting this meeting with the lawyer et al:

Earlier this spring, Kushner had amended his SF-86 form submitted to the FBI as part of his security clearance application. At that time, in their second revision to the original form, the Kushner lawyers listed about 100 foreign contacts. But they did not list the June 2016 meeting with the Russian lawyer.

On June 21, Kushner's lawyers provided an amended SF-86 to the FBI, their third such change, to list the meeting with the Russian lawyer. Two days later, on June 23, Kushner met with the FBI to be interviewed for his security clearance.

www.cnn.com

#13 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-07-14 12:18 PM | Reply

#11 Kushner has better lawyers. They are better for his interests anyway, which is their job after all.

#14 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-07-14 12:19 PM | Reply

Basically a successful Russian intelligence operation.

So what do we do?

#15 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2017-07-14 12:49 PM | Reply

"Sounds to me like Kushner was doing his damnedest to keep from reporting this meeting with the lawyer et al:"

Et al is directly involved in this case now?

Man, this whole thing Just keeps getting weirder.

#16 | Posted by RevDarko at 2017-07-14 01:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I guess this is going to keep all your false hopes alive until you can manufacture another story.

#12 | Posted by Sniper

Are you saying this story was "manufactured"?

No one needs to manufacture anything.

The Trumps are providing all the stories we need.

Are you not yet entertained?

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-07-14 01:18 PM | Reply

--------------------I guess this is going to keep all your false hopes alive until you can manufacture another story.

--------------------#12 | POSTED BY SNIPER AT 2017-07-14 11:44 AM

SNIPER takes a shot at being funny. SNIPER's shot missed.

#18 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2017-07-14 01:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

lol. Foxnews is saying that it was actually a "Russian-American Lobbyist" who was at the meeting. Not a former spy. Gotta love the spin.

www.foxnews.com

#19 | Posted by moder8 at 2017-07-14 01:23 PM | Reply

So now Fox News is covering for Russia, treasonous media!

#20 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2017-07-14 03:11 PM | Reply

Tell me again about Hillary's emails? Or BENGAZI,BENGAZI, BENGAZI!!!!!!!!

#21 | Posted by zelkova at 2017-07-14 03:57 PM | Reply

I guess this is going to keep all your false hopes alive until you can manufacture another story.

#12 | POSTED BY SNIPER

You're an idiot.

Manufacture that, ------!

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2017-07-14 09:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#13 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

It amazes me that he's been allowed to do that.

Twice now there have been an "oops...forgot about those two dozen contacts". How does he gain clearance with that brazen lying?

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2017-07-14 09:02 PM | Reply

well they're at number 8 now...think of the money that could've changed hands if they'd started taking bets on how many people were maybe in the room when the evil trump scion declared only four. i truly hope something terrible happens to this whole family...P'sOS

#24 | Posted by ABlock at 2017-07-15 11:37 AM | Reply

"they're at number 8 now"

That can't be! Junior told Hannity he'd come completely clean.

Maybe Junior should've added, "...for a Trump."

#25 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-07-15 11:41 AM | Reply

"So now Fox News is covering for Russia"

Amazing how quickly Rs went from denying any connection, to defending any connection.

The one good thing coming out of this is Rs are losing talking points by the day.

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-07-15 11:43 AM | Reply

I brought this up earlier, but I am still wondering about how this man got a visa to the U.S. and then earned citizenship. My daughter in law from Ukraine has gone through a complicated maze of immigration problems and she was never a spy or a criminal or had anything in her background to incriminate or even diminish her character. Something is sort of strange about all of this. I suspect more will come out about this nefarious character, his role at that meeting and his loyalty to the United States. I suspect he is still a Russian spy working for Putin but now with the added benefit of having the ear of the American President or at least his son. And I will guarantee you that meeting was not about adoption, it was about sanctions and the response of the U.S. to the invasion of Ukraine.

#27 | Posted by danni at 2017-07-15 12:37 PM | Reply

Shouldn't the former head of the DOJ be compelled to answer how the lawyer got special permission to enter the country, then overstay her Visa for over six months and how a former Russian spy was given citizenship?

This is on Obama's watch.

#28 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2017-07-15 06:37 PM | Reply

Shouldn't the former head of the DOJ be compelled to answer...

Probably, assuming there is a current investigation relevant to that.

#29 | Posted by REDIAL at 2017-07-15 06:43 PM | Reply

At this point I'm pretty sure there were more people in this meeting than there were at donnie dealmaker's inauguration. ...

#30 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-07-15 06:47 PM | Reply

Tiny Hands Trump could take a steaming dump on POSlix's porch, he could see him do it, he then asks Donnie if he did it, Donnie would lie and say no, POSlix would believe him and then come here and claim Obama took a dump on his porch.

#31 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2017-07-15 08:01 PM | Reply

Shouldn't the former head of the DOJ be compelled to answer how the lawyer got special permission to enter the country, then overstay her Visa for over six months and how a former Russian spy was given citizenship?
This is on Obama's watch.

#28 | POSTED BY PROLIX247

Agreed! Yet, since he's no longer on watch, I'm more concerned about those that are in power. Address that potential issue first, because if it does turn out to be collusion, we must nip the damage at the bud before it get's beyond repair. Prioritizing the previous administrations failings/collusion over the current administration's would be a huge mistake, IMO.

#32 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2017-07-15 08:22 PM | Reply

That would be putting the cart before the horse.

It is a deflection to say the last administration is not in power and Hillary lost so no big deal.

They were IN office when all this occured.

#33 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2017-07-16 08:38 PM | Reply

They were IN office when all this occured.

"All this" being donald's campaign staff colluding with Russian agents.

#34 | Posted by REDIAL at 2017-07-16 08:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#33

I agree. Donald and his spawn should have been arrested before they got this far. But it's not too late to see Justice done.

#35 | Posted by Zed at 2017-07-16 09:21 PM | Reply

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