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Tuesday, July 11, 2017

Russian cybersecurity company Kaspersky Lab boasts 400 million users worldwide. As many as 200 million may not know it. The huge reach of Kaspersky's technology is partly the result of licensing agreements that allow customers to quietly embed the software in everything from firewalls to sensitive telecommunications equipment -- none of which carry the Kaspersky name. That success is starting to worry U.S. national security officials concerned about the company's links to the Russian government. ... While the U.S. government hasn't disclosed any evidence of the ties, internal company emails obtained by Bloomberg Businessweek show that Kaspersky Lab has maintained a much closer working relationship with Russia's main intelligence agency, the FSB, than it has publicly admitted.




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It has developed security technology at the spy agency's behest and worked on joint projects the CEO knew would be embarrassing if made public.


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Kiss O Death for Kaspersky if this is true...probably even if it isn't true, but has enough legs in the media.

#1 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2017-07-11 11:16 PM | Reply

I used to recommend their sw to clients, as some years it was some of the best.

A lot of people won't be doing that now.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2017-07-11 11:22 PM | Reply

Lets be clear, Norton will ---- on you, McAfee will ---- on you and Kaspersky will ---- on you. What's a poor user to do?

#3 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-07-12 01:48 AM | Reply

Pick, who do you want to be spied on by, the NSA or FSB?

#4 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-07-12 07:33 AM | Reply

I've switched to Webroot a number of years ago for two reasons, it is a small installation and it always works.

#4 Thanks to Kaspersky you are spied on by both.

#5 | Posted by 726 at 2017-07-12 07:50 AM | Reply

"Eugene Kaspersky took to Reddit to respond. Claims about Kaspersky Lab's ties to the Kremlin are "unfounded conspiracy theories" and "total BS," the company's boisterous, barrel-chested chief executive officer wrote."


#6 | Posted by danni at 2017-07-12 08:12 AM | Reply

I used to recommend Kaspersky because of it's low price. I don't recommend it anymore..

#7 | Posted by boaz at 2017-07-12 09:27 AM | Reply

I used it one year after Best Buy included it when I purchased a laptop. It was crap, used to have to uninstall and reinstall it constantly.

#8 | Posted by 726 at 2017-07-12 09:31 AM | Reply

"Lets be clear, Norton will ---- on you, McAfee will ---- on you and Kaspersky will ---- on you. What's a poor user to do?

#3 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-07-12 01:48 AM | Reply"

Let's be clear - that comment made no sense.

So let's be clear...
1st - Traditional AV is for all intents and purposes dead. It's pretty much useless and has always been at best so-so protection.

2nd - Nextgen AV is real-time behavioral based and much much better - 99%+ detections vs at best 95%. It is not based on definition descriptions of viruses but actual actions and infection techniques. It stops those even by legitimate software unless they are white listed. The problem is it is not cheap and solutions are cloud based or highly cloud reliant and maintenance is much higher.

3rd - Norton and McAfee are American companies and yes they work with US 3 character agencies. No doubt in my mind. If you want I can dig up some articles that indicate this.

4th - Kaspersky is controlled by the Kremlin and does it's bidding. Again - no doubt in my mind. It is full of former KGB and FSB people. Kaspersky himself if former KGB school grad and military. Granted at the time conscription was the rule but he was granted early release to start his company...

5th - Kaspersky has a track record of being great at finding and stopping viruses. They found the virus "we" planted in Iran's centrifuges. They have consistently ranked as one of the very best. Why? Maybe because they are not in bed with the US 3 letter agencies? (That is pure speculation.)

All that said - I have been very nervous about Kaspersky for a while and have pulled their products from our network.

#9 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2017-07-12 10:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Take aways from the article:

In spite of Kaspersky Lab supposedly admitting that the emails are genuine, just how did, "internal company emails obtained by Bloomberg Businessweek," get to Bloomberg Businessweek in the first place? And, if they were in someone else's possession, before Businessweek got them, were they tampered with in any way? Just a question.

Kaspersky Lab's respones:
'When statements are taken out of context, anything can be manipulated to serve an agenda," the company said in a statement.
We all know this to be true. Context is everything.

"The previously unreported emails,..." Uh... wait a minute. This implies that emails have to be reported somewhere to someone. When did that happen? Oh ... it didn't. In the U.S. company emails have to be archived for use in legal actions, should any arise, but reporting them? Not that I know of. Anyone out there know differently?

"They weren't just hacking the hackers; they were banging down the doors."
I seriously doubt that some software geek was actually kicking in the doors. However, it makes sense to have the best software geeks in the world available when you breach a room with a bad actor's computer running in it. If you can get to that system quick enough a good computer tech on hand might well be able to save sensitive, incriminating, data from getting destroyed.

The rest of the article is just opining about how possibly evil the Russians are. But I disagree with Bloomberg's "bottom line".

For me the bottom line is "YEAH BABY" Please, OH PLEASE! give me a security suite for my home computer that gives me a suite of "Active countermeasures" to use against some hack stealing my WiFi bandwidth at HOME!!! Given the abilities of cyber criminals, having such a suite of software would be a nice equivalent to having a 12 gauge shotgun for home defense in a rough neighborhood.

#10 | Posted by AWinter at 2017-07-12 10:21 AM | Reply



AWINTER when the day comes that the FSB wants to disable as many computers in America as possible you'll definitely be on their list. Good luck with that.

#11 | Posted by danni at 2017-07-12 10:25 AM | Reply

Kiss O Death for Kaspersky if this is true...probably even if it isn't true, but has enough legs in the media.



Potus colluding with Rusky spies is Good, but

A software company colluding with Rusky spies is Bad?

You must not be a very good lawyer.

#12 | Posted by kudzu at 2017-07-12 11:56 AM | Reply


I've been using them for about 12 years.

#13 | Posted by kudzu at 2017-07-12 11:57 AM | Reply

In the may 11th senate intelligence hearing every head of every US intel agency declared that they emphatically would NEVER use Kaspersky Labs software on any computer.

Personally I would never knowingly install Russian software on any of my systems. We use McAfee ePO which does a pretty good job of providing a flexible and centralized security suite for managing small and large networks. And with the centralized console that can be accessed from any pc you can manage any other pc on the network. We can control when deep scans are run to minimize the impact on system users.

McAfee does a good job of keeping their dat files up to date and they keep improving the product to work better on windows as well as Linux. And yes Linux systems can get get infected too so you better have AV installed there too.

#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-07-12 12:24 PM | Reply


Pay attention, I have never said that Trump working with the Russians is good.


#15 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2017-07-12 12:39 PM | Reply

I used them off and on for 20ish years. It comes down to who do you want spying on you? I chose the USA. If something were to happen, you can't afford to be compromised.

#16 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2017-07-12 09:33 PM | Reply

Mcaffee is a processor hog. If they could fix that, it would be a great product.

Defense in depth is the key.

Intrustion detection, marker identification and anti virus all work together to prevent intrustions and malware.

#17 | Posted by boaz at 2017-07-13 11:00 AM | Reply

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