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Monday, June 19, 2017

Police found remains Sunday thought to be those of a missing Virginia teenager who they say was assaulted and disappeared overnight after leaving a mosque in the Sterling area, and a 22-year-old man has been charged with murder in connection with the case.

The mosque, the All Dulles Area Muslim Society (ADAMS) in Sterling, and relatives identified the girl as 17-year-old Nabra Hassanen of Reston.

Fairfax County police identified the man charged with murder in her death as Darwin Martinez Torres of Sterling.

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According to accounts from police and a mosque official, a group of four or five teens were walking back from breakfast at IHOP early Sunday when they were confronted by a motorist. All but one of the teens ran to the mosque, where the group reported that the girl had been left behind.

Loudoun and Fairfax police jointly conducted an hours-long search around Dranesville Road and Woodson Drive in Herndon, which is in Fairfax. Remains thought to be the girl's were found about 3 p.m. Sunday in a pond in the 21500 block of Ridgetop Circle in Sterling. During the search, an officer spotted a motorist driving suspiciously in the area and arrested Torres, police said.

Police said they collected several articles of evidence but declined to provide further details.

The girl's mother said detectives told her that Nabra was struck with a metal bat.

"I can't think of a worse instance to occur than the loss of a 17-year-old on Father's Day, as the father of a 17-year-old myself," Loudoun County Sheriff Michael L. Chapman said.

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The mother loaned her daughter her long cloak to wear to the mosque Saturday night, since Nabra didn't typically wear traditional/religious Muslim clothes.

She heard from a detective that when the man in the car started shouting at the teens, Nabra tripped over the long garment and fell to the ground, just before she was struck.
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Most people never consider a self defense situation when choosing what to wear. Pants might be tight, shoes might have heels, etc.

Keeping long fingernails will also get you killed if caught in a desperate situation. Not to say that it's her fault... of course not.

It's all on the killer.

#1 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2017-06-19 05:41 AM | Reply

Totally misleading headline..

The article doesn't mention anything about this being a hate crime. And the perpetrator was Hispanic, probably not a "Trumpist".

It's stuff like this shoddy posting that incites our already heated political atmosphere.

Stick to Pakistan and China threads..

#2 | Posted by boaz at 2017-06-19 08:00 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

And the perpetrator was Hispanic

Like "Zimmerman, the White Hispanic"?

probably not a "Trumpist".

The number of anti-Muslim bias incidents in the United States jumped 57 per cent in 2016 to 2,213, up from 1,409 in 2015, the Council on American-Islamic Relations advocacy group said in a report last month.

The acceleration in bias incidents was due in part to Mr Trump's focus on militant Islamist groups and anti-immigrant rhetoric.

Oops!

Stick to Pakistan and China threads..

Like you stick to your racist black people hate and muslim people hate threads?

ummmmm... no.

I can multitask. Unlike you.

#3 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2017-06-19 08:23 AM | Reply

misleading headline..

It's how they sell newspapers in my countr... I mean, TEXAS... maggot.

Go work for a paper and you'll get it.

#4 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2017-06-19 08:24 AM | Reply

What I'm saying, my ignorant Pakistani friend, is this incident may have had nothing to do with religion. It looks like a garden variety man killing helpless female. It happens to white and black women all the time in the U.S.

#5 | Posted by boaz at 2017-06-19 08:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What I'M trying to say, my clueless African friend, is this incident had EVERYTHING to do with religion, even if the cops are too stupid to see it that way.

It happens to white and black women all the time in the U.S.

And what have you done to make the streets safer? Captain America?

All I see is you mouthing off around here.

#6 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2017-06-19 08:50 AM | Reply

#7

LOL..

#8 | Posted by boaz at 2017-06-19 09:02 AM | Reply

#7 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-06-19 08:59 AM | Reply | Flag: And look who fell for it

#9 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2017-06-19 09:11 AM | Reply

Headline is more accurate than not, I'm afraid. The "crusader" bit was a little extra but not by much.

America's mask is coming off. A nation of hate, full of haters. Who ride along with baseball bats to get people they don't like.

As Lincoln said "By the haters, for the haters, of the haters."

#10 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2017-06-19 09:13 AM | Reply

Not surprisingly boaz is playing rush to not judge.

And then has the gall to lecture on the causes of the heated political environment.

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2017-06-19 10:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

"It's stuff like this shoddy posting that incites our already heated political atmosphere." - #2 | Posted by "col." boaz at 2017-06-19 08:00 AM

"col." boaz is like the kid who kills his parents and then throws himself on the mercy of the court because he's an orphan.

This post is just the latest in the transformation of "col." boaz from Rambo to Rodney King.

#13 | Posted by Hans at 2017-06-19 10:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

The terrorists have won. They have successfully made westerners fear all muslims. Even 17 year old teenage girls.

#14 | Posted by klifferd at 2017-06-19 11:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

He was an an El Salvadoran national in the US illegally. It was road rage. Check NBC news. You guys, Jesus.

He was Darwin A. Martinez Torres, age 22.

#17 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017-06-19 09:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#17

Don't tell them heliumrat, they just want to troll me.

Nevermind my #5 was SPOT ON.

Our liberals wont know what to do with this one as it involved two of their cherished voting blocs. Illegal immigrants and Muslims..

#18 | Posted by boaz at 2017-06-20 08:12 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

they just want to troll me.

www.youtube.com

#19 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2017-06-20 08:24 AM | Reply

Our liberals wont know what to do with this one as it involved two of their cherished voting blocs. Illegal immigrants and Muslims..

#18 | Posted by boaz at 2017-06-20 08:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

Don't look now but I think a Muslim is living under your bed............BOO giggles.

#20 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-06-20 12:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

#21 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2017-06-20 02:51 PM | Reply | Flag: Failed army grunt thinks everything and everyone else is a failure!

#22 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2017-06-20 03:32 PM | Reply

Turns out he raped her, too. That was in the Daily Beast, I think.

#23 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017-06-20 06:53 PM | Reply

#23

Seriously? An illegal immigrant attacked and raped a teenage Muslim girl?

Jesus...how do you spin this one?

#24 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-06-20 09:44 PM | Reply

"The Lord Works In Mysterious Ways."

There, it's been spun.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-06-20 09:52 PM | Reply

Heh. Snoofy made a rape/murder joke. Welcome to rape culture, Snoofy!

#26 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017-06-20 10:43 PM | Reply

Heh. Snoofy made a rape/murder joke. Welcome to rape culture, Snoofy!

#26 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT AT 2017-06-20 10:43 PM | FLAG:

Is satirizing the real response of some rightists to rape participation in rape culture? Somehow I doubt it.

#27 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-06-20 11:12 PM | Reply

"Heh. Snoofy made a rape/murder joke. Welcome to rape culture, Snoofy!"

You don't need to welcome me to a place I've lived my whole life, but thanks anyway!

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-06-20 11:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#28 You've been a rapist you're whole life? That put's you in the 0.5% of men who commit rape, all of whom are serial rapists with a 90+% recidivism rate. Not because of culture, but because of genetics. Like being a psychopath, propensity to rape runs in the family line.

#29 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2017-06-21 01:47 AM | Reply

pathetic to call it road rage.

road rage doesn't involve attacking a group of pedestrians with a baseball bat and then murdering one, and than dragging the body to a pond to hide the murder.

no its much much worse.

#30 | Posted by klifferd at 2017-06-21 12:31 PM | Reply

This violent illegal immigrant is one example of why President Donald J Trump is currently in the White House. Americans are tired of reading about Martinez-Torres type people assaulting, raping, and murdering, innocent people attempting to go about their daily business.

#31 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2017-06-21 12:40 PM | Reply

Quick quiz question:

Do immigrants commit more crimes per capita, or less, than US born Americans?

#32 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-06-21 12:47 PM | Reply

Do immigrants #32 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Cute attempt to move the goalposts.
Illegal, "undocumented," immigrants are committing a crime by their existence within a nation's borders without proper authorization. Safe to say that US born Americans cannot compare to a demographic crime rate close to 100%.

#33 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2017-06-21 12:55 PM | Reply

Immigrants? Less

Illegal immigrants? More

That said, the background of the killer doesn't really speak to the larger issue of immigration and using this girl's death as a means to promote a political agenda is pretty low.

#34 | Posted by Sully at 2017-06-21 12:56 PM | Reply

"Cute attempt to move the goalposts. "

I'm not moving anything. I'm pointing out the rank stupidity in your conclusion. Immigrants, "illegal" or otherwise, commit crimes at a lower rate than US born Americans.

#35 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-06-21 01:15 PM | Reply

"Illegal immigrants? More"

Well, yeah, if you consider breathing in America as a crime.

#36 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-06-21 01:16 PM | Reply

Residing in a country, as an undocumented immigrant, is a crime. It is illegal to immigrate across borders without proper authorization.

Crime rate of illegal immigrants = ~100%.

#37 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2017-06-21 01:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

yeah, if you consider breathing in America as a crime [while residing in the country without proper immigration authorization status] #36 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Glad to read that you see my POV, and that I am correct in my assertion that illegal immigrants are not law-abiding individuals.

#38 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2017-06-21 01:23 PM | Reply

Well, yeah, if you consider breathing in America as a crime.

#36 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-06-21 01:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

No, I consider law breaking to be law breaking. "Illegal immigrant" is a specific group of people who, by definition, are breaking our laws.

I'm not saying that sneaking into the US is a particularly egregious violation of the law or that I can't understdand the motives behind it and how I lousy legal immigration process incents illegal immigration.

But if you can't muster up enough intellectual honestly to admit that breaking immigration laws is breaking the law, then you really can't participate in any discussion on illegal immigration inetlligently.

#39 | Posted by Sully at 2017-06-21 01:30 PM | Reply

"But if you can't muster up enough intellectual honestly to admit that breaking immigration laws is breaking the law, then you really can't participate in any discussion on illegal immigration intelligently."

And if you can't muster up enough intellectual honestly to admit that without "illegal" immigration, you wouldn't have a lot of the food on your table, I'm not interested in any discussion. Remember what happened in Georgia when they got tough?
www.forbes.com

#40 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-06-21 01:42 PM | Reply

"And if you can't muster up enough intellectual honestly to admit that without "illegal" immigration, you wouldn't have a lot of the food on your table, I'm not interested in any discussion."

Now you're just obfuscating. I've mentioned in two other threads today that we need migrant workers and should make some sort of legal accomodation for them.

That really has nothing to do with whether breaking the law is breaking the law. You can still be sane while advocating for non-citizens to be able to come and work here and become citizens if they want.

#41 | Posted by Sully at 2017-06-21 01:54 PM | Reply

#28 You've been a rapist you're whole life? That put's you in the 0.5% of men who commit rape, all of whom are serial rapists with a 90+% recidivism rate. Not because of culture, but because of genetics. Like being a psychopath, propensity to rape runs in the family line.

#29 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT AT 2017-06-21 01:47 AM | FLAG:

Citation needed.

Also, you should go ahead and look up rape culture: it is as much about encouraging rapes, silencing or disbelieving victims, protecting perpetrators, and otherwise creating environments in which rape can flourish as about the rapes themselves. Educate yourself.

#42 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-06-21 02:12 PM | Reply

"breaking the law is breaking the law"

When a law is wrong, you break it.

Otherwise there would never have been an America.

#43 | Posted by klifferd at 2017-06-21 02:26 PM | Reply

"breaking the law is breaking the law"
When a law is wrong, you break it.
Otherwise there would never have been an America.

#43 | POSTED BY KLIFFERD

Having an immigration law is wrong?

#44 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-06-21 02:29 PM | Reply

When a law is wrong, you break it.

Otherwise there would never have been an America.

#43 | Posted by klifferd at 2017-06-21 02:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

Advocating for people breaking the law isn't a sensible long term solution. I could buy into "Our current laws are bad and I don't blame people for breaking them. We should replace them with a better system and then enforce the improved laws".

But if you're not advocating for more better laws that people can be expected to follow, then don't pretend your problem is with the specific laws we have now.

If your solution is "People should just break our immigration laws" and that is all you have then you're position is that we shouldn't have immigation laws at all. And I see that as a ridiculous position.

I'm not saying that based on a few posts, I know this is your position, Kliff. I'm speaking generally.

#45 | Posted by Sully at 2017-06-21 02:40 PM | Reply

its not my solution.

but until a real immigration solution comes into place, which our government has shown zero signes in 50 years of doing, the laws WILL be broken, whether i advocate them or not.

and the basis for immigration law in the usa is racism.. so frankly i don't care what you think my position is.

#46 | Posted by klifferd at 2017-06-21 02:43 PM | Reply

and the way immigration law is addressed by our current administration is borderline terrorism on its own right, breaking families up, literally tearing mothers from their babies.

#47 | Posted by klifferd at 2017-06-21 02:44 PM | Reply

Hey stoopid...laws WILL be broken, and laws WILL be enforced, so the more you encourage those laws to be broken, the more they will break up families that broke the law.

Sorry, not sorry. Choices were made, consequences will follow.

Commin sense is not a known liberal attribute on the retort.

#48 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2017-06-21 02:55 PM | Reply

and the basis for immigration law in the usa is racism.. so frankly i don't care what you think my position is.

#46 | Posted by klifferd at 2017-06-21 02:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

If the best you can do is shout "racism" and run away, you don't have much of a position for anyone to care about.

Every country has immigration laws.

#49 | Posted by Sully at 2017-06-21 02:59 PM | Reply

"Illegal, "undocumented," immigrants are committing a crime by their existence"

Wow.
Just wow.
It can be illegal to simply be alive in America.

I'm not 100% convinced the Founders had that intent when they wrote the Constitution.

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-06-21 03:04 PM | Reply

"Choices were made, consequences will follow."

"We are a nation of laws" sounds so much more palatable to right-wingers than "just following orders.".

But they mean exactly the same thing.

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-06-21 03:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

and the basis for immigration law in the usa is racism.. so frankly i don't care what you think my position is.

#46 | POSTED BY KLIFFERD

That is patently dumb.

#52 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-06-21 03:07 PM | Reply

"Choices were made, consequences will follow."
"We are a nation of laws" sounds so much more palatable to right-wingers than "just following orders.".
But they mean exactly the same thing.

#51 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Go ahead and break the laws of this country. If you get caught, you have no room to bitch when facing the consequences of your actions.

You are in kind of a weird place. On the one hand, you are a massive-government guy to the nth degree. On the other, you seem to advocate anarchy.

#53 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-06-21 03:09 PM | Reply

"Go ahead and break the laws of this country. If you get caught, you have no room to bitch when facing the consequences of your actions."

...Said every totalitarian in history.

Observe, dear reader, how the rightist distances him/herself from responsibility, acting as if laws just sort of exist, like the weather, apart from all human agency.

#54 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-06-21 03:21 PM | Reply

"It not I that hit you with a truncheon and drag you away from your family, brown person. It is the Law, nay, the principle of causation itself!"

-Officer Jeffj

#55 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-06-21 03:22 PM | Reply

I'm not 100% convinced the Founders had that intent when they wrote the Constitution.

#50 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2017-06-21 03:04 PM | FLAG:

They would have deftly settled the matter by declaring the victims, ahem, SUBJECTS to be "partially alive."

#56 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-06-21 03:24 PM | Reply

"You are in kind of a weird place. On the one hand, you are a massive-government guy to the nth degree. On the other, you seem to advocate anarchy."

I'm not as massive government as you think.
I just see why the Feds are involved in so many things.
If you ask me where to trim government, I would say reduce the 12,000 school districts in America to a much smaller number.

Coincidentally that's also why I favor single payer. Having 12,000 insurance companies duplicates a lot of work, just like having 12,000 school districts does.

I don't favor "government run health care" because I love government. I favor it because government bureaucrats can manage a large financial apparatus with much less overhead and expense than the private sector can.

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-06-21 04:10 PM | Reply

JeffJ isn't the sensible thing to look at the law, look at the cost of compliance vs. non-compliance, and do what's best for you?

Following laws just because they are laws is just as brainless as breaking laws just because they are laws. Sure, society likes one of those approaches more. But society really likes lawbreakers with a cause, like Rosa Parks or Ed Snowden. You probably only like the first one, if you can even bring yourself to say that breaking an immoral law is not a problem, which you probably can't.

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-06-21 04:15 PM | Reply

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