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Saturday, June 17, 2017

Bret Stephens, New York Times: In the matter of immigration, mark this conservative columnist down as strongly pro-deportation. The United States has too many people who don't work hard, don't believe in God, don't contribute much to society and don't appreciate the greatness of the American system. They need to return whence they came. I speak of Americans whose families have been in this country for a few generations. Complacent, entitled and often shockingly ignorant on basic points of American law and history, they are the stagnant pool in which our national prospects risk drowning. On point after point, America's non-immigrants are failing our country.

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Crime? A study by the Cato Institute notes that non-immigrants are incarcerated at nearly twice the rate of illegal immigrants, and at more than three times the rate of legal ones.

Educational achievement? Just 17 percent of the finalists in the 2016 Intel Science Talent Search -- often called the "Junior Nobel Prize" -- were the children of United States-born parents. At the Rochester Institute of Technology, just 9.5 percent of graduate students in electrical engineering were non-immigrants.

Business creation? Non-immigrants start businesses at half the rate of immigrants, and accounted for fewer than half the companies started in Silicon Valley between 1995 and 2005. Overall, the share of non-immigrant entrepreneurs fell by more than 10 percentage points between 1995 and 2008, according to a Harvard Business Review study.

Nor does the case against non-immigrants end there.

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"Bottom line: So-called real Americans are screwing up America. Maybe they should leave, so that we can replace them with new and better ones: newcomers who are more appreciative of what the United States has to offer, more ambitious for themselves and their children, and more willing to sacrifice for the future. In other words, just the kind of people we used to be -- when "we" had just come off the boat."

O.K., so I'm jesting about deporting "real Americans" en masse. (Who would take them in, anyway?) But then the threat of mass deportations has been no joke with this administration....

Beyond the inhumanity of toying with people's lives this way, there's also the shortsightedness of it. We do not usually find happiness by driving away those who would love us. Businesses do not often prosper by firing their better employees and discouraging job applications. So how does America become great again by berating and evicting its most energetic, enterprising, law-abiding, job-creating, idea-generating, self-multiplying and God-fearing people?

Because I'm the child of immigrants and grew up abroad, I have always thought of the United States as a country that belongs first to its newcomers -- the people who strain hardest to become a part of it because they realize that it's precious; and who do the most to remake it so that our ideas, and our appeal, may stay fresh.

That used to be a cliché, but in the Age of Trump it needs to be explained all over again. We're a country of immigrants -- by and for them, too. Americans who don't get it should get out.

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-06-17 08:03 AM | Reply

Anyone heard of the book 'Hillbilly Elegy?'

#2 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2017-06-17 08:08 AM | Reply

OMG! Doc! I almost took this article wrong but finally I took the desperate step of reading it. Brilliant! Hey, those who have the most to lose will usually work the hardest. I'd sort of love to see the grades that the Trump kids got in school, I doubt any were above "C" students and probably wouldn't have been admitted to the institutions they attended without donations from Daddy.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2017-06-17 08:18 AM | Reply

Ivanka Trump has an impressive IQ score of 140. Ivanka Trump has an impressive IQ score of 140. She attended Georgetown University for two years before deciding to transfer to Wharton Business School at the University of Pennsylvania. She graduated with a degree in Economics in 2004, which later came in handy as she began working for one of the biggest investment banks on Wall Street.

smartied.com

Yep, she would sure make most people look like an idiot.

#4 | Posted by Crassus at 2017-06-17 09:02 AM | Reply

Did she also attend Harvard Law and edit its review?
LOL

#5 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-06-17 09:04 AM | Reply

If Crassus is done using a less than solid source to present anecdotal and possibly b.s. information, this country IS a Nation of Immigrants.

They seem to appreciate more than those who wish them ill.

#6 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-06-17 09:08 AM | Reply

Really, I posted site and if you don't know anything about Wharton business school you are very naïve.

Wharton is tied number 1 with Harvard, so yep in your hateful all trump mind she is just stupid.....LOL!

#7 | Posted by Crassus at 2017-06-17 09:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Pretty good article. For folks who complain that wildly about immigration....they should read this article.

#8 | Posted by eberly at 2017-06-17 09:33 AM | Reply

Ivanka Trump has an impressive IQ score of 140.

#4 | POSTED BY CRASSUS

I knew she and i had stuff in common, other than both of us being beautiful. My IQ is also 140. It's not that impressive in academic circles, but pretty good for a guy raised in poverty.

I only mention it because the IQ of the average American is dropping like a stone. I would be willing to bet it is below 100 nowadays. That is why they advocate killing children, and ruining families simply because the families like to eat occasionally, and they are tired of seeing themselves become less and less relevant, while others are suceeding.

#9 | Posted by kudzu at 2017-06-17 09:49 AM | Reply

There goes Moneywar bloviating again.

#10 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-06-17 09:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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Prove I am wrong Laura, and find it interesting you feel the need to attack me, have I wronged you in some way?

#11 | Posted by Crassus at 2017-06-17 09:55 AM | Reply

#7

You've confused the Wharton BA program with its MBA program.
Two different critters, Crassus.
Your blow-up doll has the lesser degree.
As does her father.

Now, back to Immigrants, if you've finished trying to hijack the thread with your Trumpesque insecurities.

#12 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-06-17 10:10 AM | Reply

#7

You've confused the Wharton BA program with its MBA program.
Two different critters, Crassus.
Your blow-up doll has the lesser degree.
As does her father.

Now, back to Immigrants, if you've finished trying to hijack the thread with your Trumpesque insecurities.

#13 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-06-17 10:10 AM | Reply

Crassuswar, she's not attacking you, but simply testifying as to your ignoramousity, trollification, and masochistical faux-gadflyishness.

#14 | Posted by madscientist at 2017-06-17 10:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

All of my grandparents were foreign born, as was my mother. For those who came over - three of the four grandparents did just that - this was a land of hope.

We've always had ignorant, hateful, resentful nativists in the US.
They should be accorded the degree of credibility they deserve: none.

#15 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-06-17 10:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

My mom was born in Switzerland and my father's father was born in Ireland. Oh, and my cat is a Russian blue.

#16 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2017-06-17 11:46 AM | Reply

I'd sort of love to see the grades that the Trump kids got in school, I doubt any were above "C" students and probably wouldn't have been admitted to the institutions they attended without donations from Daddy.
#3 | POSTED BY DANNI

I think you're wrong and I think your hate closes your mind. No offense.

#17 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2017-06-17 11:58 AM | Reply

"Pretty good article. For folks who complain that wildly about immigration....they should read this article."

Agreed. Even before reading this article I was thinking that the deportations that would best serve this country aren't the illegal immigrants who come here with the intent to succeed. It's those who are here who have no interest in it, or think that it's someone else's responsibility to succeed on their behalf.

#18 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-06-17 01:53 PM | Reply

Now there's a progressive deportation policy! ;)

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-06-17 02:11 PM | Reply

Now there's a progressive deportation policy! ;)
#19 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Yes, they threaten to leave the country if a certain conservative gets elected (but never follow through)

#20 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2017-06-17 02:57 PM | Reply

We stay just to piss off you Deplorables

#21 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-06-17 04:31 PM | Reply

We stay just to piss off you Deplorables
#21 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS

Ha ha. Haven't heard that word for a while.

Good article though. There's a lot of things I can agree with.

#22 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2017-06-17 06:35 PM | Reply

They are right, a mass deportation is needed.

They are just wrong on whom should be deported.

We need to deport the alt-right and Teajadist hilljacks.They need to go back to where they came from,
Dumbassastan!

#23 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2017-06-17 08:09 PM | Reply

IQ is a relative scale. By definition 100 is the median. Comparing someone with an IQ of 140 when trump took the test 50 years ago to someone with an IQ of 140 who took the test yesterday does not mean they are equally intelligent.

#24 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-06-17 09:21 PM | Reply

Who's gonna take 'em?

#25 | Posted by squinch at 2017-06-18 10:12 AM | Reply

We can dump the Teajadists off in Saudi Arabia. They have a lot in common with the Saudis.

#26 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2017-06-18 03:22 PM | Reply

"We can dump the Teajadists off in Saudi Arabia. They have a lot in common with the Saudis."

Good plan. Let's stop in Venezuela first to unload some BernieBros.

#27 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-06-19 11:01 AM | Reply

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