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Friday, June 16, 2017

Alyona Minkovski: Fifteen years in, it remains the longest military conflict the United States has been involved in. The most recent evaluations from generals suggest no signs of improving conditions or a path to "victory", and yet the strategy seems to remains the same - send more troops. How many more times do we need to hear that there "is no military solution" in Afghanistan, before we start to consider it a reality? ... This quagmire has cost the lives of over 2300 service members since 2001 and left 17,000 wounded. How many additional lives and billions of dollars will be spent letting the Pentagon send a few thousand more troops? And for what purpose?

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What the American people need are honest assessments rather than a perpetual state of war, as well as a debate over what we owe to the Afghan people, who are living through it everyday.

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Making defense contractors and oil companies billions is about all it is doing.

Pretty much all I can see so far.

#1 | Posted by Lohocla at 2017-06-16 10:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4


The time to ask that question was before we went into Afghanistan.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2017-06-16 10:16 AM | Reply

The MIC failed again. Get out.

#3 | Posted by bored at 2017-06-16 10:54 AM | Reply

It's going as well as the war on poverty and the war on drugs. But give it another 50 years to catch up.

#4 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-06-16 11:03 AM | Reply

Actually, the war on poverty was doing pretty well until Reagan started cutting all the funding.

#5 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2017-06-16 11:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Pissing money away. But since it is going to defense contractors, the GOP don't mind.

#6 | Posted by 726 at 2017-06-16 11:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

- But since it is going to defense contractors, the GOP don't mind.

Didn't bother Obama or Clinton much either.

#7 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2017-06-16 11:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

What the American people need are honest assessments

An honest assessment isn't what you want either. It wouldn't be politically correct.

#8 | Posted by boaz at 2017-06-16 12:10 PM | Reply

Can you explain?

#9 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-06-16 12:52 PM | Reply

US sending almost 4,000 extra forces to Afghanistan, Trump official says
www.theguardian.com

#10 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-06-16 01:03 PM | Reply

15 years, thousands of soldiers dead, many thousands maimed, trillions wasted, tens of thousands of dead civilians, millions made miserable and the Taliban is largely in control. Epic failure.
War on drugs, millions of lives ruined, enriched gangs, plentiful drugs and billions wasted. Epic failure.
War on poverty, millions of lives made better, enriched landlords. Far better than slum sprawl common in many countries. Success.

#11 | Posted by bored at 2017-06-16 01:43 PM | Reply

What the Hell Are We Doing in Afghanistan?

Enriching bombmakers at taxpayer expense, and making more terrosits.

Obama should have wrapped it up after he killed bin laden.

But he would have been attacked as a coward by republicans, who need war to feel like their wrinkled old -------- still work.

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-06-16 02:39 PM | Reply

Afghanistan isn't about oil. It is about the mountains full of rare earth minerals and gems.

#13 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-06-16 02:41 PM | Reply

Making defense contractors and oil companies billions is about all it is doing.

Pretty much all I can see so far.

#1 | Posted by Lohocla

Then maybe vote for bernie next time.

That goes for all you people tired of the war. You could have voted to end this crap. Unless you voted for sanders, you voted for it to continue.

#14 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-06-16 02:43 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

wasting money, wasting lives...

#15 | Posted by earthmuse at 2017-06-16 03:46 PM | Reply

It's going as well as the war on poverty and the war on drugs. But give it another 50 years to catch up.

#4 | POSTED BY FEDERALIST

Haven't you heard? The war on poverty is over. The poor lost.

#16 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-06-16 03:48 PM | Reply

‘Attention! Your attention, please!

A newsflash has this moment arrived from the Afghanistan front. Our forces in Afghanistan have won a glorious victory. I am authorized to say that the action we are now reporting may well bring the war within measurable distance of its end.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-06-16 05:13 PM | Reply

We once had a goal there.

Now it's hard to be sure.

#18 | Posted by Tor at 2017-06-16 05:14 PM | Reply

Now it's hard to be sure.

#18 | Posted by Tor

Because Trump has no plan. Secret or otherwise. Obama wanted to get us out but it is easier to start a war than to stop one.

Has Trump even offered a position on Afghanistan? Was it even debated during the run-up to the election?

As I understood it, the goal was to get Osama Bin Laden and deny the terrorists a training ground. Then it was to stabilize the country so the Afghan Army could take over.

Well, at least we got Osama.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-06-16 07:04 PM | Reply

Well, at least we got Osama.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy

Obama's biggest blunder was letting wall street get away with crashing the economy.

His second biggest was staying in the war after we killed bin laden.

#20 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-06-16 07:28 PM | Reply

Just 15 years? We've been in Germany and Japan for 72 years. Any attempt to change that is met with cries about the end of American hegemony.

#21 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-06-17 08:51 AM | Reply

War on poverty, millions of lives made better, enriched landlords. Far better than slum sprawl common in many countries. Success.
#11 | Posted by bored

No, it was a failure because it didn't make any rich people richer. Not enough banksters were able to skim off of it.

#22 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2017-06-17 11:56 AM | Reply

Obama should have wrapped it up after he killed bin laden
#12 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2017-06-16 02:39 PM |

Couldn't agree with you more, but the problem is we are Allies now

#23 | Posted by cmbell73 at 2017-06-17 04:49 PM | Reply

Pretty soon, the people fighting in Afghanistan will be younger than the conflict itself.

#24 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-06-17 04:55 PM | Reply

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier.... Rudyard Kipling

there's been war here for a thousand years, the hubris required to continue just makes you shake your head

#25 | Posted by ABlock at 2017-06-17 05:24 PM | Reply

Interesting essay: "Afghanistan: It's Too Late" by Ahmed Rashid (www.nybooks.com)

#26 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-06-18 11:51 AM | Reply

BUT, BUT, BUT, the SCUM Obummer said Afghanistan was the RIGHT AND RIGHTEOUS WAR!!!!!!

#27 | Posted by robadude32 at 2017-06-18 12:00 PM | Reply

ANd now the scum bag Obummer is collecting from Wall Street. Can you say hypocritical shi* head????

#28 | Posted by robadude32 at 2017-06-18 12:42 PM | Reply

"Obummer is collecting from Wall Street."

Just like all the Presidents before him did.

"Can you say hypocritical shi* head???"

Did you complain when Dubya did the same? If not, the hypocritical shi*head is the guy in your mirror.

#29 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-06-18 12:46 PM | Reply

Just 15 years? We've been in Germany and Japan for 72 years. Any attempt to change that is met with cries about the end of American hegemony.

#21 | Posted by sitzkrieg

And how many American forces killed and wounded in Germany and Japan in the last 72 years?

#30 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2017-06-19 12:53 PM | Reply

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