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Thursday, May 18, 2017

Michael Flynn and other advisers to Donald Trump's campaign were in contact with Russian officials and others with Kremlin ties in at least 18 calls and emails during the last seven months of the 2016 presidential race, current and former U.S. officials familiar with the exchanges told Reuters. The previously undisclosed interactions form part of the record now being reviewed by FBI and congressional investigators probing Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election and contacts between Trump's campaign and Russia. Six of the previously undisclosed contacts described to Reuters were phone calls between advisers of Russian diplomat Sergey Kislyak and Trump, including Flynn, Trump's first national security adviser, three current and former officials said.

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Conversations between Flynn and Kislyak accelerated after the Nov. 8 vote as the two discussed establishing a back channel for communication between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin that could bypass the U.S. national security bureaucracy, which both sides considered hostile to improved relations, four current U.S. officials said. In January, the Trump White House initially denied any contacts with Russian officials during the 2016 campaign. The White House and advisers to the campaign have since confirmed four meetings between Kislyak and Trump advisers during that time.

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Another day, another dump. Why did they need to lie in the first place?

Tic toc....

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-18 07:57 AM | Reply

This does sound like treason.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2017-05-18 08:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#1

Why did they need to lie in the first place?

There's some higher scheme afoot, isn't there? These men were plotting a coup.

Or, obviously, pursuing a coup attempt yeas in the making that Donald's Ascension suddenly made all too possible.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2017-05-18 08:10 AM | Reply

Conversations between Flynn and Kislyak accelerated after the Nov. 8 vote as the two discussed establishing a back channel for communication between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin that could bypass the U.S. national security bureaucracy,

Yeah, nothing bad could happen with President "I don't know when to shut up" Trump.

#4 | Posted by 726 at 2017-05-18 08:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Conversations between Flynn and Kislyak accelerated after the Nov. 8 vote as the two discussed establishing a back channel for communication between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin that could bypass the U.S. national security bureaucracy,

And this is consistent with Trump's Oath of Office? I guess W (allegedly) was right, the Constitution is just a piece of paper. Of course Trump and his crew know more about inter-national foreign relations than our 535 other elected representatives and the entire US bureaucracy put in place to forward our interests.

Obviously we should be in his considerable debt....

#5 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-18 08:22 AM | Reply

I'm getting tired of missing silly comedy TV shows because the news is so much more entertaining.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-18 08:23 AM | Reply

#6

"American Horror Story"?

#7 | Posted by Zed at 2017-05-18 08:25 AM | Reply

It is becoming clear that Trump and his team are a bunch of bumbling idiots that were most likely led down this path by Russia. Russia's goal is to make the US a laughing stock on the world stage. So far their plan is working thanks to Donny's bumbling idiots. It is clear that Donny is Vlad's useful idiot.

Congrats Right Wing Moonbats, you built this.

#8 | Posted by 726 at 2017-05-18 08:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#8

The Right Wing ceased to believe in America at some point. They likely decided they were "Realists" who knew better.

That taped speculation Donald was getting paid by the Russians? Wasn't a joke, was it? The Republican Uber circle knew.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2017-05-18 08:33 AM | Reply

#8

And Putin trolling his puppet's country by offering "transcripts" from last week's meeting where no US media was allowed inside our own Oval Office while the Russians photographed and recorded the entire affair as Trump divulged code-word intelligence he had no right to openly talk about as he reportedly did.

Teddy Roosevelt would have pulled out his pistol and shot Trump on sight for treason and never worry about facing any charges.

#10 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-18 08:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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The Republican Uber circle knew.

Welcome aboard. www.drudge.com

#11 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-18 08:35 AM | Reply

#10

Teddy would have beaten Trump up. Jackson would have shot him.

#12 | Posted by Zed at 2017-05-18 08:38 AM | Reply

Doesn't it make you just wonder that, after all, liberals believe in America in a much more old fashioned sense than the GOP?

#13 | Posted by Zed at 2017-05-18 08:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Doesn't it make you just wonder that, after all, liberals believe in America in a much more old fashioned sense than the GOP?

I think it's always been true to an extent in our modern society. We fight to help those who can't/don't/aren't always fight(ing) for themselves nominally because their lives are hard enough already. Conservatives seem obsessed with policies and politics which help THEM amass more money, security, or power often at the expense of those without any of those things.

In this case, it is what we know it is: The GOP/RNC as constructed today is an entity of organized crime. Laws are suggestions not constraints. Winning is the only thing and the Constitution is only invoked when it serves their personal interests and ignored when it inhibits their goals and desires.

As with healthcare, their ends are the only things that matter.

#14 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-18 08:53 AM | Reply

"No one had any contact with Russia. No one except for 2 of my sons, my son in law, my daughter, my campaign manager, my former NSA, and maybe like 6 or 8 other people who worked directly for me."

-- Honest Don

#15 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-05-18 09:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

@#8 ... It is becoming clear that Trump and his team are a bunch of bumbling idiots that were most likely led down this path by Russia. ...

Pres Trump, et alia, have been played by Pres Putin and his various agencies.

Just look at this picture of Pres Trump shaking hands with Ambassador Sergey Kislyak:
pbs.twimg.com

Amb Kislyak, who may be considered by US intelligence agencies to be Russia's top spy in the US.

In the Oval Office, shaking hands with a effusively beaming Pres Trump.

The same Pres Trump that refused to shake the offered hand of our ally, German Chancellor Merkel, when she visited the Oval Office.

#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2017-05-18 11:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

I would genuinely be shocked if the number is a s low as 18. These guys were in bed together, profiting hundreds of millions of dollars. I have to believe they were in constant contact with one another.

#17 | Posted by moder8 at 2017-05-18 11:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump Campaign Had 18 Undisclosed Contacts with Russia

JUST A COINCIDENCE
NO SMOKING GUN
NOTHING TO SEE HERE
BUT HILLARY...

-DR hacks

#18 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-05-18 11:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No trumpers on this thread?

Shocking.

#19 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-05-18 11:54 AM | Reply

www.youtube.com

#20 | Posted by AuntieSocial at 2017-05-18 11:54 AM | Reply

Conversations between Flynn and Kislyak accelerated after the Nov. 8 vote as the two discussed establishing a back channel for communication between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin that could bypass the U.S. national security bureaucracy, which both sides considered hostile to improved relations, four current U.S. officials said.

They weren't the only ones working on a "back channel"

In case that sounds familiar, a couple of months ago the Washington Post reported that Erik Prince, founder of Blackwater and sister of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, held a secret meeting in the Seychelles islands with a Russian close to President Vladi­mir Putin "as part of an apparent effort to establish a back-channel line of communication between Moscow and President-elect Donald Trump."

Keri Geiger and Michael Riley followed up on that report with the news that Prince had been a regular advisor to the Trump team – particularly Michael Flynn.

"In the very public, post-election parade of dignitaries, confidantes and job-seekers filing in and out of Donald Trump's marquee Manhattan tower, Blackwater founder Erik Prince was largely out of sight. And yet Prince was very much a presence, providing advice to Trump's inner circle, including his top national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, according to people familiar with his activities."

There could be more to the story of why Trump was so determined to place Flynn in a critical foreign policy position that didn't require Senate confirmation, keep him there despite all the warnings, and then ask the FBI director to end his investigation. But the fact that Flynn was working with the Russian ambassador (during the time that country was hacking and leaking information about Trump's opponent) in order to set up a back channel line of communication between Trump and Putin that would bypass this country's national security bureaucracy goes a long way towards explaining it all.

I'll leave it to others who are better versed in spy craft to elaborate. But this all reads to me like Putin setting up the President of the United States to be a Russian asset. That is as serious as it gets. Nancy LeTourneau

#21 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-18 12:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Folks,,,

I'm starting to think that there isn't going to be a wall built between the US and Mexico.

#22 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-05-18 12:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

"I would genuinely be shocked if the number is a s low as 18. These guys were in bed together, profiting hundreds of millions of dollars. I have to believe they were in constant contact with one another.
#17 | Posted by moder8 at 2017-05-18 11:52 AM | Reply | Flag: "

There must be 50 ways to meet your Russian backers:

WSJ: Russian state bank secretly financed Trump hotel project--the bank whose head met with Kushner in December:

Russian State-Run Bank Financed Deal Involving Trump Hotel Partner

Russian-Canadian developer put money into Toronto project after receiving hundreds of millions from deal involving VEB

www.wsj.com

#23 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-18 12:13 PM | Reply

Joke seen on internet:

When it comes to the wall, Trump is an overachiever: he's going to get four.

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-18 12:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#23

www.drudge.com

All in all it's just another brick in the Wall.

#25 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-18 12:19 PM | Reply

Thank God Hillary's emails disqualified her.

#26 | Posted by 726 at 2017-05-18 12:57 PM | Reply

#22 | POSTED BY MRSILENCEDOGOOD
"I'm starting to think that there isn't going to be a wall built between the US and Mexico."

Same here....we may have to settle for a long line of divots.

#27 | Posted by TheTom at 2017-05-18 01:46 PM | Reply

27 posts and nobody here to defend Honest Don?

#28 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2017-05-18 02:03 PM | Reply

#28 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE
"27 posts and nobody here to defend Honest Don?"

Tough to defend an imaginary person.

#29 | Posted by TheTom at 2017-05-18 02:15 PM | Reply

Conversations between Flynn and Kislyak accelerated after the Nov. 8 vote as the two discussed establishing a back channel for communication between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin that could bypass the U.S. national security bureaucracy, which both sides considered hostile to improved relations, four current U.S. officials said.

And this is unreasonable? Is the redphone now suspect? Does it still exist? What if Trump brought it back?

How did this affect the election?

Seems we are moving the goalposts.....but that's politics I suppose.

#30 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2017-05-18 02:34 PM | Reply

And this is unreasonable?

It's a violation of federal statutes NOT to disclose the conversations themselves which is precisely what the Trump campaign didn't do and then publicly lied about when questioned. What part of "one foreign policy at a time" and the Logan Act escapes you Andrea?

#31 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-18 02:44 PM | Reply

Conversations between Flynn and Kislyak accelerated after the Nov. 8 vote as the two discussed establishing a back channel for communication between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin that could bypass the U.S. national security bureaucracy, which both sides considered hostile to improved relations, four current U.S. officials said.

And this is unreasonable?

#30 | Posted by AndreaMackris

I would say calling the US national security professionals HOSTILE to improved relations is very unreasonable.

Unless "improved relations" means special illegal treats for trump from putin or vice versa.

Tell me, what's YOUR theory on why the only part of the republican platform trump cared about was the part he added to allow putin to keep crimea. And then tell me why he later tried to blame that on his employees who turned around and pointed the finger back at him?

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-05-18 02:49 PM | Reply

Yesterday on the Five Juan Williams made a big point about this story as have numerous other media. Just google the story. What he failed to mention was that buried six paragraphs down was the following;

"The people who described the contacts to Reuters said they had seen no evidence of wrongdoing or collusion between the campaign and Russia in the communications reviewed so far."

Fake News! First who were these undisclosed to? Obviously they had been disclosed to someone. If to the public maybe that's because they could reveal NSA spying methods on the Russians. More important the content of these exonerates the Trump campaign of collusion! That should have been the headline. It was amazing to me that Juan got away with this half truth. He and Reuters need to be called out. Can't people just stick to the facts.

www.reuters.com

#33 | Posted by commonsense171 at 2017-05-19 08:21 AM | Reply

"The people who described the contacts to Reuters said they had seen no evidence of wrongdoing or collusion between the campaign and Russia in the communications reviewed so far."

Two operative items:

1. "So far"
2. Senators emerged from the Rosenstein meeting yesterday stating it had gone from a counter-intelligence investigation, to a criminal investigation.

"Fake News!"

More like Republicans are scared.

"More important the content of these exonerates the Trump campaign of collusion! "

If you actually believe that, you're either an idiot, or a paid poster.

"Can't people just stick to the facts."

Sure. Let's start with the number of times Trump has spoken a proven lie.

#34 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-19 08:40 AM | Reply

"Sure. Let's start with the number of times Trump has spoken a proven lie."

That's actually a good question.

How many times has Donald Trump lied?

Turns out Donald Trump is the biggest liar in us history!

Donald Trump has now said 250 false things as president. Here are all of them:

www.thestar.com

U.S. President Donald Trump averaged 2.1 false claims per day over the first 100 days of his presidency. Over the next 17, he averaged ... 2.1 false claims per day.

Trump has proven uniquely willing to lie, exaggerate and mislead. By all expert accounts, the president is more frequently inaccurate than any before.

#35 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-05-19 06:17 PM | Reply

us=US

#36 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-05-19 07:06 PM | Reply

Here's what I don't get. This all requires a lot of assumptions...but...

If this administration rose to power through illegitimate collusion with a foreign power, why should Pence get the job in the case of impeachment? Shouldn't the whole ticket and the entirely of the appointments made by said administration become null and void?

Drawing from the fruit of the poison tree argument for nullifying evidence from an illegitimate search...

Would that sort of house cleaning require an act of Congress or a Constitutional Amendment? I'm genuinely curious...any constitutional scholars out there?

#37 | Posted by chaosrain at 2017-05-19 11:13 PM | Reply

#37 In a normal reality, that's when even the most power hungry politician step down, after their closest friend tells them it's the only way.

So, for us, it all comes down to what Jesus says to Mike Pence.

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-05-19 11:17 PM | Reply

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