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Adam Entous, Washington Post: A month before Donald Trump clinched the Republican nomination, one of his closest allies in Congress -- House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy -- made a politically explosive assertion in a private conversation on Capitol Hill with his fellow GOP leaders: that Trump could be the beneficiary of payments from Russian President Vladimir Putin. "There's two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump," McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.

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House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthy's assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.

Some of the lawmakers laughed at McCarthy's comment. Then McCarthy quickly added: "Swear to God."

Ryan instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying: "No leaks. ... This is how we know we're a real family here."

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Payoffs From Putin to Trump? McCarthy Says No, He Was Just Kidding (www.nytimes.com)
Rohrabacher: McCarthy was joking about Russia, but should be 'very careful' with humor
House GOP Leader's 'Putin pays Trump' remark called a 'failed attempt at humor'

Don't quit your day job, McCarthy, stand-up comedy isn't your calling.

#1 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2017-05-18 12:53 AM | Reply

So you've actually been duped into believing McCarthy is telling the truth?

#2 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-18 12:58 AM | Reply

You do realize, before McCarthy and Ryan found out a recording existed, both denied it ever happened...right?

When initially asked to comment on the exchange, Brendan Buck, a spokesman for Ryan, said: "That never happened," and Matt Sparks, a spokesman for McCarthy, said: "The idea that McCarthy would assert this is absurd and false." After being told that The Post would cite a recording of the exchange, Buck, speaking for the GOP House leadership, said: "This entire year-old exchange was clearly an attempt at humor.

#3 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-18 01:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

^link to quote:
www.chicagotribune.com

#4 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-18 01:09 AM | Reply

This dovetails exactly with what anonymous source reporters have been saying recently: Ryan was aware that the Russians were funneling money to GOP candidates particularly Donald Trump. Here are some of the facts and clues surrounding this recording.

I don't expect the Washington Post to reveal its source that provided the recording, not should it. But there are two key clues within the article itself. The first is that it pinpoints the conversation between Ryan and other Republicans as having taken place immediately after they had met with the President of Ukraine, who warned them that Russia likes to fund puppet candidates around the world.

The second clue is that the byline location of the WaPo story incredibly reads "Kiev, Ukraine." My interpretation of this is that the reporter in question may have had to travel to Kiev in order to hear the recording, or that in one way or another the source for the story is in Ukraine.... Ukraine certainly has every motivation to fight back against any plot between Russia and the GOP. By the way, here's another question: why is old recording being leaked now? www.palmerreport.com

Salient questions, don't you think?

#5 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-18 07:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ryan instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying: "No leaks. . . . This is how we know we're a real family here."

What people are slow to pick up on is that all this Russian money is connected to organized crime because the current Russian government IS organized crime in the eyes of international and US law. Hence when these ill-gotten gains are funneled to US citizens and become illegal contributions to political entities, these acts themselves are criminal money laundering including money invested in Trump properties worldwide. This tape exposes evidence that not only was Paul Ryan aware of these illegal transactions/contributions, so were the leaders and key members of the GOP, hence the underground rumors that the RNC/GOP may be charged under RICO statutes when all is said and done.

This is precisely why rumors of Hatch's ascension into the Oval have been speculated about and why all the subpoenas regarding various Trump associate's financial transactions and relationships to Russian money are the likeliest threads that stand to unravel the whole sordid plot.

#6 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-18 07:13 AM | Reply

#1 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 20

Even you're own link said he tried to lie and said that the conversation never happened then when he was told there was a recording of it he said he was just joking

#7 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2017-05-18 07:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"There's two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump," McCarthy (R-Calif.) said. Some of the lawmakers laughed at McCarthy's comment. Then McCarthy quickly added: "Swear to God."

Those three words and the lies that accompanied the first denials before the spokesmen were aware of the existence of taped recordings of the meeting will be etched on the GOP's tombstone. No one jokes using those three words. It's not plausible and it wasn't followed by even more laughter which would signal that McCarthy was trying to be funny. And then there is Ryan's admonition of "No leaks, we're a real family here."

Yeah, a real traitorous, corrupt, organized crime family.

#8 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-18 07:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Ryan instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying: "No leaks. . . . This is how we know we're a real family here."
The remarks remained secret for nearly a year."

I want to hear the tape. The public deserves to hear this tape.

#9 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-18 09:05 AM | Reply

Who thinks Gonoles is a paid poster?
I'll be first, I definitely do think he is.

#10 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-18 12:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Who thinks Gonoles is a paid poster?

#10 | POSTED BY DANNI AT

Why in the blue **** would anyone pay for that ****???

#11 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-05-18 01:20 PM | Reply

"Fake news! It never happened!"

"We have audio of it happening."

"Oh. Then it was just a joke. Hahahahaha, right?"

#12 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2017-05-18 01:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Maybe it was a joke but with a tinge of sincerity to it. Would anyone be surprised?

#13 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-05-18 01:21 PM | Reply

Jokes are funny because of the underlying truth they hide.

If no one thought it wasn't plausible, no one would have laughed.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-18 01:23 PM | Reply

If the Special Counsel turns up proof of money laundering, which has been alleged by some, McCarthy will regret his comments even if anyone actually believes it was a joke.

#15 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-18 01:47 PM | Reply

Ryan was aware that the Russians were funneling money to GOP candidates particularly Donald Trump.
#5 | Posted by tonyroma

I think everyone knows by now that literally the only thing paul ryan cares about is tax cuts for rich people.

He would molest children to get tax cuts passed. Collusion with russians is just the cost of getting what he wants.

And he's the "intellectual" in that party.

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-05-18 02:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"It didnt happen".

"What? You have it on tape? Uh...heh,heh, it was a joke".

It was just locker room treason. Heh heh...gulp.

#17 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2017-05-18 03:08 PM | Reply

Even you're own link said he tried to lie and said that the conversation never happened then when he was told there was a recording of it he said he was just joking

#7 | Posted by PunchyPossum

Just like so many have tried to lie to cover up their connections to Putin. Like Trump has lied over and over. Then when forced to tell the truth by a leaked story to the press or by someone who actually keeps memos or recordings of conversations and threatens to release them that they finally and grudgingly own up the truth.

And it is interesting how many timely leaks there have been in this administration. It is almost like Trumpo has pissed off all the Intelligence Agencies and 60% of America or something. Maybe Trump should stop doing that. Maybe then he could get the support he needs and the respect he craves if he were to treat other people with respect.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-05-18 05:53 PM | Reply

"McCarthy was joking about Russia,"

Evan McMullen didn't think McCarthy was joking and he said so in an OP ED he wrote back in February, "Republicans, Protect the Nation":

Republican leaders in Congress now bear the most responsibility for holding the president accountable and protecting the nation. They can't say they didn't see the Russian interference coming. They knew all along.

. ..

As the presidential race wore on, some of those leaders began to see parallels between Russia's disinformation operations in Ukraine and Europe and its activities in the United States. They were alarmed by the Kremlin-backed cable network RT America, which was running stories intended, they judged, to undermine Americans' trust in democratic institutions and promote Mr. Trump's candidacy. Deeply unsettled, the leaders discussed these concerns privately on several occasions I witnessed.

. . .

Suspect public comments like these led one senior Republican leader to dolefully inform his peers that he thought Mr. Trump was on the Kremlin's payroll, suggesting that Mr. Trump had been compromised by Russian intelligence. Other leaders were surprised by their colleague's frank assessment, but did not dispute it.

. . .

Shockingly, some of the leaders most concerned about Russian subversion and Mr. Trump's possible compromise were his first and most vocal supporters among congressional leaders -- some publicly, some privately. It was an inauspicious trade of national security for political self-preservation and partisan ambition.

#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-18 07:40 PM | Reply

Republican leaders in Congress now bear the most responsibility for holding the president accountable and protecting the nation.

#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

That might put their precious tax cuts for the rich at risk. Those are more important than protecting the nation.

#20 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-05-18 07:45 PM | Reply

They knew, they know and yet they are doing worse than nothing: they are denying everything and continuing to give Trump cover! All so they can create the biggest transfer of wealth in this country's history by abolishing Obamacare and introducing massive tax cuts for the rich. You can't even call this party over country. It's more like the 1% over everybody else. AGAIN.

#21 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-18 07:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"That might put their precious tax cuts for the rich at risk. Those are more important than protecting the nation."

Exactly! Sorry, I didn't see your post before I wrote mine (took a phone call didn't refresh).

#22 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-18 07:50 PM | Reply

No wonder they don't want to look into Trump's Russian ties--they are afraid they will be implicated, if not directly, then indirectly through their own suspicions. I say again: let's hear the tape(s).

#23 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-18 07:53 PM | Reply

GOP bastards. I hope they all go to prison. Barring that, I hope they all lose their seats:

The basic nature of the pro-Trump subversion effort was known to GOP leaders before the parties' conventions last year: The above conversation took place on June 15. Several weeks after the GOP officially nominated Trump in mid-July, in a secure setting with Obama administration officials and other members who receive classified briefings, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell vowed to politicize any effort on the part of the government to reveal that Russian intelligence was intervening in the election to help Trump. "According to several officials," the Post reported, "McConnell raised doubts about the underlying intelligence and made clear to the administration that he would consider any effort by the White House to challenge the Russians publicly an act of partisan politics."

Despite Ryan's clear awareness of the truth, we can infer that he sided with McConnell, tacitly or otherwise, because the Obama administration backed down in the face of McConnell's threat. An official government assessment that Russia was helping Trump in the election didn't reach the public until after the election, as Trump was transitioning to the presidency.

Unless this story has a second act, McCarthy and Ryan will stick to the explanation that their Putin-paying-Trump speculation was meant to be a joke. But even if that part of the conversation had never happened, the rest of it, and the later briefing with Obama officials, tell a perfectly rounded story of congressional Republicans' complicity in Russian sabotage of the Clinton campaign. There is no way to walk this one back -- and it wasn't locker room talk.

newrepublic.com

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-18 08:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Man, this pi$$es me off. LOCK THEM ALL UP!!!

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-18 08:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

House leaders worry more meetings secretly recorded

www.axios.com

We should be so lucky. If there is any kind of karma or divine justice in this world, there will be.

#26 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-18 10:32 PM | Reply

"There's two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump," McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.

Coincidence?

F.B.I. Once Warned G.O.P. Congressman That Russian Spies Were Recruiting Him

The F.B.I. warned a Republican congressman in 2012 that Russian spies were trying to recruit him, officials said, an example of how aggressively Russian agents have tried to influence Washington politics.

The congressman, Dana Rohrabacher of California, has been known for years as one of Moscow's biggest defenders in Washington and as a vocal opponent of American economic sanctions against Russia. He claims to have lost a drunken arm-wrestling match with the current Russian president, Vladimir V. Putin, in the 1990s. He is one of President Trump's staunchest allies on Capitol Hill.

mobile.nytimes.com

Shh, let's keep in in the family! Don't tell anyone outside this room.

#27 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-19 06:33 AM | Reply

Please GONOLES, come back and embarrass yourself some more.

#28 | Posted by e1g1 at 2017-05-19 09:13 AM | Reply

"McCarthy and Ryan will stick to the explanation that their Putin-paying-Trump speculation was meant to be a joke."

Which doesn't negate the fact both these guys initially tried to lie their way out of it.

#29 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-19 09:35 AM | Reply

"Putin-paying-Trump speculation was meant to be a joke"

The whole Trump Presidency was meant to be a joke.

I started a joke, which started the whole world crying,
but I didn't see that the joke was on me, oh no.

I started to cry, which started the whole world laughing,
oh, if I'd only seen that the joke was on me.

I looked at the skies, running my hands over my eyes,
and I fell out of bed, hurting my head from things that I'd said.

Til I finally died, which started the whole world living,
oh, if I'd only seen that the joke was on me.

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-05-19 01:45 PM | Reply

Take it for what's it's worth, but again pieces of the puzzle appear to be falling into place based upon past leaked information incrementally being proven accurate:

This felt like a mere warning shot though, and sure enough, Ryan himself is now hinting that there are more damaging tapes to come.

Paul Ryan made this acknowledgment when he was trying to shift the topic to who might be to blame for the leak of the recordings, as documented by The Hill (
link). Some have pointed the finger at Evan McMullin, who was a staffer in those House meetings before he ultimately broke with the Republicans to run against Donald Trump as a third party candidate. Ryan isn't quite willing to formally accuse McMullin of it. But he his trying to play the victim by saying he's concerned that the leaker might release more damaging recordings.

Read between the lines here: Ryan has realized that whoever made this secret recording, that person was also present during other such conversations. Ryan knows that he and his colleagues said more suspicious and/or incriminating things about Donald Trump and Russia than what's on the one leaked tape, and he knows any such recordings will be released eventually. So he's trying to frame things in advance such that he can further play the victim when those tapes surface, making him and his party look even worse.

We knew this couldn't have been the only tape when it leaked this week. As we told you last month (link), both Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell are said to have been caught on tape discussing Russia funding the Trump campaign, and in more damaging fashion than what was said on the leaked tape. To be clear, we have no idea if McMullin is the source. But this is going to get a whole lot worse for the Republican leadership.

#31 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-20 12:12 PM | Reply

I wonder if they're going to repeat their "It didn't happen, but if it did we were joking" alibi.

#32 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-20 12:19 PM | Reply

Could it really be that these people knew Donald was getting Russian money and said and did nothing?

Are these pod people?

#33 | Posted by Zed at 2017-05-20 12:31 PM | Reply

Foreign intelligence surveillance allegedly knows as much as US intelligence does about the collusion between the GOP-Trump and Russian oligarchs and their money laundering. Don't forget, Deutschebank paid a huge fine for laundering Russian money and who's the only western bank that has loans with Trump? Cyprus is tied into all of this too and who was a vice chairman of a notorious bank doing deals with Russian interests while they were under US sanctions? Wilbur Ross, our current Secretary of Commerce.

There have been multiple sourced leaks that US/NY prosecutors are going after RICO violations not only for individuals, but for the GOP/RNC itself including Preibus.

Only time will tell.

#34 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-20 12:53 PM | Reply

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