Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Wednesday, May 17, 2017

The Justice Department on Wednesday appointed former FBI Director Robert Mueller as special counsel to oversee the federal investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, including potential collusion between Trump campaign associates and Russian officials. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appointed Mueller to the position in a letter obtained by CNN. Attorney General Jeff Sessions previously recused himself from any involvement in the Russia investigation due to is role as a prominent campaign adviser and surrogate.

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Never expected this to happen so soon. I'm glad it has.

#1 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 06:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Hahahaha

#2 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-17 06:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Good news. Good choice as well. Thank you, Deputy AG Rosenstein.

#3 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-17 06:10 PM | Reply

Good news.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2017-05-17 06:12 PM | Reply

Beginning of the end.

#5 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2017-05-17 06:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

It is time to start calling it Russiagate.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 06:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Nah nah nah hey hey good bye

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-17 06:17 PM | Reply

what a nothingburger!

Sheeplefidian in every trump russia thread.

#8 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2017-05-17 06:18 PM | Reply

PeeGate!

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 06:19 PM | Reply

Wonder who told Trump about this?

Anyone seen Spicey?

Shawn? Where are you Shawn?

Hope he's OK!

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 06:21 PM | Reply

So, what are we calling this investigation: Kremlingate?

#11 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-17 06:24 PM | Reply

Mueller met with Rosenstein the day after Comey was canned... and the only reason Rosenstein was able to do this himself is Sessions recusal from the subject.

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 06:24 PM | Reply

CNN says the Trump admin told them they can't say on air the name of the ME city that Trump gave to Russia, "because it could get people killed".

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 06:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Was Robert Mueller a Republican FBI director or a Democrat FBI director? Because I know Ken Starr was definitely not from the same political Party as the person he was investigating. Point is, it would be nice to have an impartial Special Prosecutor looking into these matters and not one associated with either political party.

#14 | Posted by moder8 at 2017-05-17 06:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This also must set the record for the fastest appointment of a special prosecutor subsequent to a new POTUS's election.

#15 | Posted by moder8 at 2017-05-17 06:30 PM | Reply

This is a wise move ....

Diverts argument Trump was obstructing justice, even Corky's post proves there was fore thought in the Firing of Comey, and of who and what to do.

Trump is miles ahead.

Wonder who told Trump about this? - Corky

Unlike Obama reading about it in the newspaper you mean?

I suspect Trump said if you are going to fire Comey, you better have a backup plan, as your post indicates they thought this through.

#16 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2017-05-17 06:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

This also must set the record for the fastest appointment of a special prosecutor subsequent to a new POTUS's election.

#15 | POSTED BY MODER8

We are in wholly unprecedented territory here. Have been for a while.

#17 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-05-17 06:32 PM | Reply

This is sorta the Nixon Sat Night Massacre in slo-mo.... it's stretching out to more than one night and people are being real careful about how they fall on their swords... but can you imagine having your career depend on what Trump might or might not say on a witness stand?

He's a defense lawyers nightmare.

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 06:32 PM | Reply

- I suspect Trump

Me, too, Andy!

-Trump is miles ahead.

You're an idiot again already. Wanna bet on whether Trump knew Rosenstein was meeting with Mueller the day after?

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 06:35 PM | Reply

Comey and Mueller were both involved in the Bush administration attempt to get authorization for illegal wire taps from John Ashcroft from his hospital bed.

"Domestic wiretapping investigation[edit]
Director Mueller, along with Deputy Attorney General James B. Comey, offered to resign from office in March 2004 if the White House overruled a Department of Justice finding that domestic wiretapping without a court warrant was unconstitutional."

en.wikipedia.org

I support this choice.

#20 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 06:35 PM | Reply

Anyone seen Spicey?

Shawn? Where are you Shawn?

Hope he's OK!

#10 | Posted by Corky

Have you checked the bushes?

#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-05-17 06:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"While a special counsel would remain ultimately answerable to Mr. Rosenstein -- and by extension, the president -- he would have greater autonomy to run an investigation than a United States attorney would.

Mr. Mueller will be able to choose to what extent to consult with or inform the Justice Department about his investigation as it goes forward.

Mr. Mueller is viewed by members of both parties as one of the most credible law enforcement officials in the country.

He served both Democratic and Republican presidents, from 2001 to 2013, and was asked by President Barack Obama to stay on beyond the normal 10-year term until Mr. Comey was appointed

www.nytimes.com

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 06:39 PM | Reply

Finally. Let's get to the bottom of this mess.

This country has far too much important work to do to be sidetracked with scandal after scandal, but Trump is such an extreme combination of bumbling doofus, shameless reprobate and hateful turd that something has to be done.

#23 | Posted by cbob at 2017-05-17 06:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I suspect Trump said if you are going to fire Comey, you better have a backup plan, as your post indicates they thought this through.

#16 | Posted by AndreaMackris

So that's why they have no FBI Director replacement ready? Because that was part of the plan to make it look like they did not plan this but that it was planned all along?

My what a tangled web you weave!

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-05-17 06:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump came into office insulting our intelligence agencies, think maybe he's thinking that was a bad idea? He faces two FBI Directors who have respect for each other, one of whom has direct knowledge of efforts by Trump to end this investigation. IMHO, Trump is screwed and he knows it. Expect erratic behavior from Trump in the days ahead. He will be Twittering his crazy ass off.

#25 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 06:43 PM | Reply

#25

If we're "lucky" Donald will be goaded over some bright line even BLAKE and ANDREA can see.

#26 | Posted by Zed at 2017-05-17 06:46 PM | Reply

"It is time to start calling it Russiagate."

Oh, sorry, Danni, I didn't see your post when I suggested Kremlingate. I've been calling it Putingate in my own mind.

#27 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-17 06:46 PM | Reply

"Trump is miles ahead."

Unfortunately, he is running the wrong race. He is not running for President any more.

He is the President with all the responsibilities inherent in the office.

And Trump is not miles ahead of Comey.

Trump tells Comey he has tapes...Comey tells Trump he has memos of every conversation they ever had.

Trump breaks into a cold sweat.

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-05-17 06:46 PM | Reply

"Rosenstein's statement on Mueller's appointment and his order [of appointment]" www.lawfareblog.com

Premature in my view but nevertheless a good thing.

#29 | Posted by et_al at 2017-05-17 06:47 PM | Reply

Those of you wanting to gall this something-gate, you're looking at it the wrong way.

We had WATERgate

We had whiteWATER.

This could only be called "golden water".

#30 | Posted by RevDarko at 2017-05-17 06:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

"Oh, sorry, Danni, I didn't see your post when I suggested Kremlingate. I've been calling it Putingate in my own mind."

No worries, the media will brand it what they choose, we can only offer suggestions. Perhaps Egogate?
Blotusgate?

#31 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 06:48 PM | Reply

"Oh, sorry, Danni, I didn't see your post when I suggested Kremlingate. I've been calling it Putingate in my own mind."

No worries, the media will brand it what they choose, we can only offer suggestions. Perhaps Egogate?
Blotusgate?

#32 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 06:48 PM | Reply

The media seem to be calling it Russia-gate.

34 million hits on google.

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-05-17 06:51 PM | Reply

RevDarko named it: "Goldenwatergate."

#34 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 06:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 6

"The media seem to be calling it Russia-gate."

They stole that from me, I want royalties. Oh, but wait, that's why they added the hyphen. Those sneaky bastards.

#35 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 06:53 PM | Reply

Ok I like it! Let's go with GoldenWatergate.

Everyone tell Stephen Colbert and it will soon have more hits on google than Russia-gate.

#36 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-05-17 06:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Colbert probably just told his writers to rewrite his monologue.

#37 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 06:55 PM | Reply

Colbert probably just told his writers to rewrite his monologue.

#38 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 06:55 PM | Reply

GoldenWatergate!!

We have a wiener!

#39 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 06:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#29 Re Rosenstein's statement: well said.

#40 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-17 06:57 PM | Reply

RevDarko can expect his job offer from Colbert momentarily.

#41 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 06:57 PM | Reply

---------------------------?

#42 | Posted by moder8 at 2017-05-17 06:58 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trump is going to make Rogers run out of yuuge fonts.

#43 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 06:59 PM | Reply

#goldenwatergate

twitter.com

It needs a reboot, though.

#44 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 07:01 PM | Reply

"LEAVE HIM ALONE! You are lucky he even performed for you BASTARDS!
LEAVE DADDY ALONE!..Please."

Ivanka

#45 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 07:02 PM | Reply

This almost makes me want to start watching tv news again... almost.

#46 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 07:03 PM | Reply

Good work Corky, hope it goes viral. Might be more damaging than the special counsel, Trump might just resign just because of your tweet. RevDarko might be famous tomorrow morning and employed by Stephen Colbert.

#47 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 07:05 PM | Reply

"White House spokespeople have said they view the appointment of a special counsel as unnecessary."

www.politico.com

You lose the bet, Andrea.

#48 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 07:06 PM | Reply

Good work Corky, hope it goes viral. Might be more damaging than the special counsel, Trump might just resign just because of your tweet. RevDarko might be famous tomorrow morning and employed by Stephen Colbert.

Well, here's hoping, since I just tweeted it to Colbert.

Cheers, Danni and Corky.

#49 | Posted by RevDarko at 2017-05-17 07:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"The White House did not immediately comment on the appointment.

ABC and CNN both reported that White House officials were given less than one hour notice before the announcement was made public. A special counsel is not fully independent, and can be fired."

www.theatlantic.com

Trump had one hour's notice.... "Spicey? Someone pls chk the bushes!"

#50 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 07:10 PM | Reply

"Well, here's hoping, since I just tweeted it to Colbert."

Excellent! Oh crap, now I have to stay up past my bed time.

#51 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 07:11 PM | Reply

Someone is Hollywood is working on a script along the lines of "Dick" (hilarious movie by the way).
www.imdb.com
They could call it "--------"

#52 | Posted by bored at 2017-05-17 07:12 PM | Reply

"A special counsel is not fully independent, and can be fired."

So can an Assistant Attorney General but that didn't work out too well for the last President that thought he could deal with a problem that way. He's probably on the phone with Putin who is telling him "just fire them all, put them in jail, poison them. They will have trouble finding a replacement I promise you."

#53 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 07:13 PM | Reply

#49 | POSTED BY REVDARKO

Good stuff, Rev. Hope Colbert gets on the Golden Watergate Wagon.

#54 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 07:15 PM | Reply

No, seriously, I wanna know who was the brave mf that walked into Trump's office and told him about the SP being appointed?

At least where is the body?

#55 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 07:17 PM | Reply

CNN reporting Sessions didn't know about this until after the order was signed. Good. That's the way it should have been done.

#56 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-17 07:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#16 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS
"I suspect Trump..."

Could've stopped right there.

#57 | Posted by TheTom at 2017-05-17 07:21 PM | Reply

Rosenstein could end up looking like a reasonable facsimile of Elliot Richardson if the SP finds a smoking... shower.

#58 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 07:22 PM | Reply

He will resign from his private law firm WilmerHale to avoid any conflicts of interest, the Justice Department said.

I LOVE irony like this. I wonder if any Trumptilians will get it.

#59 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-17 07:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Is the Trump Presidency now in the dreaded "Death Spiral"?

Will it even last as long as the ACA?

stay tuned...

#60 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-05-17 07:34 PM | Reply

The SP has subpoena power and no limits on where he can take this investigation... and now Trump is at the center of it with the Comey memos.

OK< I turned CNN on online, first time since the election, lol.

#61 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 07:42 PM | Reply

Source says Rosenstein is throwing Trump overboard the same way Trump did Comey... that he was angry enough to almost quite his job last week.

#62 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 07:52 PM | Reply

or quit, not quietly

#63 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 07:53 PM | Reply

The SP can also demand Trump's tax returns... and if we are lucky his twitter phone.

#64 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 08:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

"No, seriously, I wanna know who was the brave mf that walked into Trump's office and told him about the SP being appointed?"

Kellyanne with that evil grin, she had to race to beat everyone else. And then I'm sure she told him how sorry she was in that totally insincere way she always talks. What does she care now, if he's going down then there is no more money to milk from this gig.

#65 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 08:06 PM | Reply

"No, seriously, I wanna know who was the brave mf that walked into Trump's office and told him about the SP being appointed?"

Kellyanne with that evil grin, she had to race to beat everyone else. And then I'm sure she told him how sorry she was in that totally insincere way she always talks. What does she care now, if he's going down then there is no more money to milk from this gig.

#66 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 08:06 PM | Reply

lol... I'm told by A Cooper that it was White House Special Counsel Dan McGahn who told Trump less than an hour before it happened.

I don't know if anyone has seen him since...

#67 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 08:11 PM | Reply

An independent commission would have been preferable in that it would not be secret and only criminal, and the GOP in general can't be too upset about the SP in comparison.

Dems may try to still get a commission.

#68 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 08:19 PM | Reply

It's too bad he has nothing to investigate, LOL.

#69 | Posted by chuffy at 2017-05-17 08:24 PM | Reply

I'm just glad we didn't elect someone who was under FBI investigation, right?

#70 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 08:53 PM | Reply

The constitution at times can be a strange thing. What stops Trump from blanket pardoning everyone currently under investigation? Thus ending the investigation because then there would be no there there to investigate. No witnesses etc.

I saw it happen in Kentucky several years ago with Gov. Ernie Fletcher in the midst of a corruption scandal.

I know it's unlikely but I don't put anything beneath Trump.

#71 | Posted by Jay at 2017-05-17 08:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"What stops Trump from blanket pardoning everyone currently under investigation?"

Please, yes. THIS.

Few things can keep the Dems from snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, but blanket pardons would do the trick.

#72 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-17 08:58 PM | Reply

Danfotrh, your optimism is a virtue, but I'll never underestimate the dems talent for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. 2016 happened.

#73 | Posted by Jay at 2017-05-17 09:09 PM | Reply

Dems may try to still get a commission.

As they should. I too think a bipartisan commission was the better route. While there's criminal smoke there's not yet enough flame for Special Counsel. If a commission uncovered enough SC could have been appointed later.

#74 | Posted by et_al at 2017-05-17 09:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What stops Trump from blanket pardoning everyone currently under investigation? Thus ending the investigation because then there would be no there there to investigate.

Trump cannot dismiss state charges or stop state investigations. NY AG Schneiderman was given the files from USA Preet Bharara after he was fired by Trump and has at least one grand jury investigation into Trump related activities underway right now.

Trump has no power to stop him at all.

#75 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-17 09:30 PM | Reply

Brb, buying stock in Orville Redenbacher.

#76 | Posted by ness_gadol at 2017-05-17 09:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Trump cannot dismiss state charges or stop state investigations."

But can he not just pardon all those involved, as loathsome as that may be, with the power of the constitution behind him? Thus ending investigations?

#77 | Posted by Jay at 2017-05-17 09:42 PM | Reply

#77

Only federal Jay, not state.

Under the Constitution, only federal criminal convictions, such as those adjudicated in the United States District Courts, may be pardoned by the President. ... However, the President cannot pardon a state criminal offense.

www.justice.gov

#78 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-17 09:46 PM | Reply

#77

State and federal, separate sovereigns. A federal pardon does not affect state law.

#79 | Posted by et_al at 2017-05-17 09:47 PM | Reply

About damn time.

#80 | Posted by e1g1 at 2017-05-17 09:51 PM | Reply

"I'm just glad we didn't elect someone who was under FBI investigation, right?"

Look at it this way - either Hillary was going to scandal-ridden term, emboldening Republicans and making it difficult for her party to retain the Oval Office in 2020, or Trump was going to have a scandal-ridden term, screwing things up for the Republicans in '18 and '20. Either way we were statistically due for a one-termer.

#81 | Posted by sentinel at 2017-05-17 10:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Keep ------' that chicken.

LOL.

Sorry I messed up on the wrong post but it applies. ---- came from the. Nooner.

#82 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2017-05-17 10:02 PM | Reply

- Look at it this way

Neither of those things was predetermined. The GOP would have certainly tried, but they may not have been successful. And Trump has done this to himself, no one else was needed.

#83 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 10:04 PM | Reply

Pardoning everybody would be an absolutely horrible idea. If they are free from prosecution, they cannot invoke the fifth amendment. They would be forced to testify. They would have no excuses. No defense.

#84 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-05-17 10:09 PM | Reply

good

get'r'done..

then appoint a SP to find out just how the obama WH was spying on the supreme court...

#85 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-05-17 10:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

good

get'r'done..

then appoint a SP to find out just how the obama WH was spying on the supreme court...

Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-05-17 10:12 PM | Reply

Babbles you come up with some weird assed crap don't you????

#86 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-05-17 10:15 PM | Reply

Finish this one, it has only been since last July with no evidence. Then invesigate the murder of Rich who provided the Dem's emails to Wiki. Another Vince Foster.

#87 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-05-17 10:19 PM | Reply

"As they should. I too think a bipartisan commission was the better route."

And, as in the 9-11 Commission, the President could refuse to testify under oath. Commissions like that are shows to change public opinion not forums to find the truth about issues because the people that set them up don't really want the truth. Definitely the people who ran the 9-11 Commission did not want the truth and the "truths" that were revealed were redacted from their report. I'll take the special counsel approach with a man like Mueller who has demonstrated true allegiance to the Constitution even in spite of the fact that he had to stand up to the President who appointed him.

#88 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 10:27 PM | Reply

"Neither of those things was predetermined."

Both were extremely likely, as anyone who was paying attention and wasn't wearing blinders could see.

"The GOP would have certainly tried, but they may not have been successful.

Still would've been hell for the country to go through them picking up where they left off with '90s investigations and impeachment, and just like her husband she probably would've walked into whatever they tried to bait her into.

And Trump has done this to himself, no one else was needed.

Indeed.

#89 | Posted by sentinel at 2017-05-17 10:30 PM | Reply

#86 - I laughed out loud when I read that from Babbles!

I'm just glad we didn't elect someone who was under FBI investigation, right?

But we found out tonight Trump appointed someone that he knew was under investigation - as his national security adviser. In fact, we found out that Trump knew Flynn was under investigation for a month before Trump said "so what - what's a little investigation? Come on and be my NSA!"

And Trump gave him access to "nearly every secret held by American intelligence agencies."

www.nytimes.com

But... what's a little sharing with the Russians? Besides, they recorded everything in the Oval Office anyway and they'll provide a transcript. You know, since no US reporters were allowed in.

Day after day of absolute insanity coming from this WH.

WOW.

#90 | Posted by YAV at 2017-05-17 10:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

surely he'll watch this video.....unless the dems and their media get it removed....OR JUST LIE and say it never happened...

Former FBI Director James Comey testified under Senate oath May 3rd that the Trump administration had not pressured his agency to halt any investigation for political purposes.

Comey admitted that the FBI has always been free to operate without political interference -- flying in the face of Democrats' paranoid delusions about Russia and President Donald J. Trump, and exposing for what it is a new political witch hunt Wednesday by enemies within the president's own Justice Department.

Videotaped testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee blows apart the phony narrative New York Times reporter Michael Schmidt wove on Tuesday, which resulted in Mueller's appointment. Schmidt's only sources were anonymous. They claimed that on Feb. 14th, the day after National Security Adviser Michael Flynn resigned, Trump had asked Comey to end an investigation into Flynn's connections to Russia.

#91 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-05-17 10:33 PM | Reply

//www.c-span.org/video/?c4670144/fbi-director-comey-denies-trump-admin-obstruction-investigations

#92 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-05-17 10:37 PM | Reply

Grrrrrrrr.....

#93 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-05-17 10:38 PM | Reply

Grrrrrrrr.....

Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-05-17 10:38 PM | Reply

Meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

#94 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-05-17 10:39 PM | Reply

"They claimed that on Feb. 14th, the day after National Security Adviser Michael Flynn resigned, Trump had asked Comey to end an investigation into Flynn's connections to Russia."

And you're still pretending otherwise. Precious. You're loyal, I'll give you that.

#95 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 10:40 PM | Reply

"They claimed that on Feb. 14th, the day after National Security Adviser Michael Flynn resigned, Trump had asked Comey to end an investigation into Flynn's connections to Russia."

And you're still pretending otherwise. Precious. You're loyal, I'll give you that.

#96 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 10:40 PM | Reply

From Twitter:
@SenBillNelson: Bob Mueller has the experience to conduct a thorough investigation. Must be given independent authority to follow facts wherever they lead.

@Ali_H_Soufan (Former FBI Special agent, NYT bestseller:)
I served under Director Mueller. An excellent choice! Honorable, principled, and tough. I cannot think of any better person for the job.

Among other tweets from public figures within D.C./FBI realms..

#97 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2017-05-17 10:40 PM | Reply

#94

That gave me a visual that no one should have.

#98 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 10:42 PM | Reply

- wasn't wearing blinders

Your opinions may be facts, but only to you.

#99 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 10:44 PM | Reply

#88

Ever the cynic. I honestly don't understand why you demand and expect so much from a government you distrust so much.

And it ain't like there's never been a special counsel fiasco. Remember that Bill Clinton ------- investigation you whine about?

"B b but that was investigating a democrat."

Yeah, Danni, I know, I know.

#100 | Posted by et_al at 2017-05-17 10:46 PM | Reply

Grrrrrrrr.....

Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-05-17 10:38 PM | Reply

Meowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

#94 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-05-17 10:39

one more time.....answer is no....you'll have to worship these rock hard abs and rugged good looks from afar......WAY WAAAAAAAAYYYYYY AFAR....

#101 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-05-17 10:50 PM | Reply

And you're still pretending otherwise. Precious. You're loyal, I'll give you that.

#95 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 10:40 PM | R

soon as I can get the video to come up....you'll hear your boy say he wasn't asked to stop anything from the dt WH..

WAIT>...your boy.......this week ?....or next week when you'll want him fired and skewered///

#102 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-05-17 10:53 PM | Reply

one more time.....answer is no....you'll have to worship these rock hard abs and rugged good looks from afar......WAY WAAAAAAAAYYYYYY AFAR....

Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-05-17 10:50 PM | Reply

Your eyesight is bad. Don't forget I KNOW what you look like Sir.

#103 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-05-17 10:54 PM | Reply

www.c-span.org

#104 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-05-17 11:11 PM | Reply

yes and I just heard comey say it again.......seems that it's not available in the usual places where it was available JUST THE OTHER DAY....

Hmmmmmmmmmm

www.c-span.org

#105 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-05-17 11:14 PM | Reply

#105 | POSTED BY AFKABL2

Did you listen to that video Afk? Is Trump a part of the DOJ, or is he the AG? Because that is what is being discussed here.

Your sources are taking you for a sucker, and you are proving then right. But hell, that's been true for years and you never seem to get it.

That being said, here's to a great Texans season.

#106 | Posted by memyselfini at 2017-05-18 01:05 AM | Reply

Pardon them for what? You have to commit a crime to be pardoned and nobody has even been charged of anything yet. If Trump tried that he'd be right back to obstruction of justice again and impeachment would be a foregone conclusion.

And let's try to remember. Trump only cares about his own neck. When his cohorts are looking at time, they'll be singing like canaries to save themselves. Why do you think Flynn asked for immunity? He was going to sing. Why do you think Scooter Libby went to jail? A President can only issue pardons after the fact and only then if he escapes impeachment by the Senate.

So no. There is no power of the Constitution that Trump can use and for very good reason. We aren't living under a dictatorship quite yet.

#107 | Posted by Twinpac at 2017-05-18 05:08 AM | Reply

BTW has Trump tweeted any derogatory adjectives yet to try and destroy Mueller's credibility?

Has Trump gone underground yet? Or silent running?

#108 | Posted by Twinpac at 2017-05-18 05:32 AM | Reply

"And it ain't like there's never been a special counsel fiasco. Remember that Bill Clinton ------- investigation you whine about?"

If Mueller takes this investigation into BJ territory, with a consenting adult, trust me I will be with you in demanding his resignation. Ken Starr is a despicable human being, he could have reported that there just was no criminal charges that could be brought against Bill Clinton in regards to the Whitewater deal but he was a head hunter not a fair minded prosecutor. I do not expect such from Mueller.

#109 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-18 07:04 AM | Reply

"The constitution at times can be a strange thing. What stops Trump from blanket pardoning everyone currently under investigation? Thus ending the investigation because then there would be no there there to investigate. No witnesses etc."

He could do that but I'm pretty sure that if he did the public would demand and get impeachment hearings, impeachment and conviction in the Senate.

#110 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-18 07:08 AM | Reply

Let's just make a note right now that the left thinks Mueller is a good choice but if they don't get the outcome they want no matter the evidence or lack of it he will become a bum and they will be calling for his head.

#111 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-05-18 07:25 AM | Reply

What stops Trump from blanket pardoning everyone currently under investigation? Thus ending the investigation because then there would be no there there to investigate. No witnesses etc."

Not at all. A pardon is given for an admission of guilt to specific charges. Once someone accepts a pardon they can no longer use the 5th Amendment when asked questions under oath. The other branches of government can still practice their oversight, the subjects just wouldn't be subject to federal charges or prosecution but that doesn't protect them from state charges though. Pardoning anyone in this affair without them first being tried and convicted in open court would immediately create yet another impeachable offense against the POTUS.

Trump can issue pardons but not without fatal repercussions to himself.

#112 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-18 07:33 AM | Reply

"Let's just make a note right now that the left thinks Mueller is a good choice but if they don't get the outcome they want no matter the evidence or lack of it he will become a bum and they will be calling for his head."

No, if there is a thorough investigation we will accept whatever outcome but you won't. You'll be screaming your lungs out how you've been cheated out of a president elected by a minority. I remember when Nixon resigned, the right whined for decades.

#113 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-18 08:21 AM | Reply

Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump

If I win-I am going to instruct my AG to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation bc there's never been anything like your lies.

#114 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-18 08:33 AM | Reply

This morning:

Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump

With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special councel appointed!

This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!

twitter.com

#115 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-18 08:39 AM | Reply

Eish! I've never known a sentient life form so incapable of not tasting his own foot.

#116 | Posted by RevDarko at 2017-05-18 08:45 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

This Special Counsel has the mission of investigating criminal behavior on the part of any Americans in this situation. A special commission is still needed to investigate the Russian side of this scandal in support of a response.

#117 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2017-05-18 12:39 PM | Reply

- A special commission is still needed to investigate the Russian side of this scandal in support of a response.

An independent commission is forward looking taking what they found out happened, criminal or ethical, and apply the lessons to help stop it happening again. The SP is backwards looking only and interested in criminal activity.

So yeah, it's still needed.

#118 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-18 12:42 PM | Reply

I think Trump sucks as much as anyone. But if there's a betting line on this, I'll bet they never get Trump on a single charge. And that he serves out his full first term. Even if they do get Trump on something, perhaps far more dangerous, the next scenario is a President Pence.

Keep your sanity folks. Things aren't getting better anytime soon.

#119 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2017-05-18 01:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If Trump gets indicted and he can't afford a lawyer, I'd be happy to represent him. :)

#120 | Posted by moder8 at 2017-05-18 02:10 PM | Reply

Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump

If I win-I am going to instruct my AG to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation bc there's never been anything like your lies.

#114 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

Was he talking to his mirror?

#121 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-05-18 08:26 PM | Reply

"Was he talking to his mirror?"

He was talking to Hillary, but, yeah, he was projecting.

Lock him up! Lock them all up!

#122 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-18 08:29 PM | Reply

It all depends on what the definition of is is.

Or in this case it all depends on whether no means no.

Donnie said no Comey said yes. One of them lied.

#123 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-05-19 03:50 PM | Reply

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