Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Monday, May 15, 2017

President Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials, who said Trump's disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State. The information the president relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said. The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia, and officials said Trump's decision to do so endangers cooperation from an ally that has access to the inner workings of the Islamic State. After Trump's meeting, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and the National Security Agency.

Advertisement

Advertisement

More

Alternate links: Google News | Twitter

"This is code-word information," said a U.S. official familiar with the matter, using terminology that refers to one of the highest classification levels used by American spy agencies. Trump "revealed more information to the Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies."

Comments

Admin's note: Participants in this discussion must follow the site's moderation policy. Profanity will be filtered. Abusive conduct is not allowed.

OMFG!!! When this abomination of a train wreck is over we may need to have our own cathartic style Nuremberg Trials for the political hacks that keep ignoring what this buffoon is doing to our national security and country on a daily basis.

The damage this clown may be wreaking might be irreparable or cause us problems for years if not decades. C'mon GOP, you have to see the clear and present danger this mentally ill man is to this nation and the globe. Stop worrying about your party and be an American for once and stand up for what's right before it might be too late.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-15 06:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

One day after dismissing Comey, Trump welcomed Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak -- a key figure in earlier Russia controversies -- into the Oval Office. It was during that meeting, officials said, that Trump went off script and began describing details of an Islamic State terrorist threat related to the use of laptop computers on aircraft.

"It is all kind of shocking," said a former senior U.S. official who is close to current administration officials. "Trump seems to be very reckless and doesn't grasp the gravity of the things he's dealing with, especially when it comes to intelligence and national security. And it's all clouded because of this problem he has with Russia."

In his meeting with Lavrov, Trump seemed to be boasting about his inside knowledge of the looming threat. "I get great intel. I have people brief me on great intel every day," the president said, according to an official with knowledge of the exchange.

Trump went on to discuss aspects of the threat that the United States learned only through the espionage capabilities of a key partner. He did not reveal the specific intelligence-gathering method, but he described how the Islamic State was pursuing elements of a specific plot and how much harm such an attack could cause under varying circumstances. Most alarmingly, officials said, Trump revealed the city in the Islamic State's territory where the U.S. intelligence partner detected the threat.

The Washington Post is withholding most plot details, including the name of the city, at the urging of officials who warned that revealing them would jeopardize important intelligence capabilities.

The identification of the location was seen as particularly problematic, officials said, because Russia could use that detail to help identify the U.S. ally or intelligence capability involved. Officials said the capability could be useful for other purposes, possibly providing intelligence on Russia's presence in Syria. Moscow would be keenly interested in identifying that source and possibly disrupting it.

Thanks Mr. President, you freaking narcissistic moron!

#2 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-15 06:15 PM | Reply

Where are all the --------- who defended us from OBAMA's destruction of the country via his scandalous healthy school lunch program?

I guess this doesn't rate in terms of democracy savin' and all that

#3 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2017-05-15 06:29 PM | Reply

If true as reported, wow. Just wow.

#4 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-15 06:59 PM | Reply

Putin to Trump: Thank you, comrade, for being the gift that keeps on giving.

#5 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-15 07:00 PM | Reply

Trump better hope there is no tape recordings of his conversation with the Russians.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-15 07:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

'Moscow would be keenly interested in identifying that source and possibly disrupting it."

Disrupting it?!? Now we're playing coy?

#7 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-15 07:03 PM | Reply

McMaster, "It didn't happen."

Well, we need McMaster to say that in public, because we're screwed if Trump fires him and puts Bannon back in the loop. But we also need McMaster to tell the truth, no matter what it is, behind the scenes to folks like Mathis, Pompeo and Senate IC leaders.

#8 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-15 07:16 PM | Reply

impeach.

#9 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2017-05-15 07:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

BuzzFeed later confirmed the report, adding that the Senate Intelligence Committee was also briefed on the disclosures. "It's far worse than what has already been reported," one official reportedly told the outlet.

A White House spokeswoman did not immediately return a request for comment on whether Trump shared classified information with the Russian officials.

"If true, this is a slap in the face to the intel community. Risking sources & methods is inexcusable, particularly with the Russians," said Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee.

"Obviously they're in a downward spiral right now and they've got to figure out a way to come to grips with all that's happening," Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), who chairs the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, told reporters Monday.

I guess McMaster has now joined the other Trump Administration officials who will baldly lie to the American public. As Edward-Isaac Dovere tweeted, "Where we're at: Trump is leaking to the Russians, and someone in the Oval Office with him is leaking about what he's leaking."

Madness.

#10 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-15 07:31 PM | Reply

Advertisement

Advertisement

hey stupid trumpsters! all of you gave the russians classified information.

#11 | Posted by klifferd at 2017-05-15 07:31 PM | Reply

"The damage this clown may be wreaking might be irreparable or cause us problems for years if not decades."

Yep. From the article:

"Exposure of an intelligence stream that has provided critical insight into the Islamic State, they said, could hinder the United States' and its allies' ability to detect future threats."

#12 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-15 07:36 PM | Reply

I bet the Russian photographer got it all on tape. If they didn't have info to blackmail Trump before, they do now. Winning!

#14 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-15 07:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What McMaster actually stated:

Carefully choosing his words, McMaster said that Trump did not speak about "intelligence sources or methods" during a meeting last week in the Oval Office with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

The Post story does not allege that Trump divulged sources or methods in that meeting, but rather that the United States was not authorized to share the information the President revealed to the Russian officials about an Islamic State threat involving the use of laptop computers on aircraft. Anonymous officials familiar with the meeting told the newspaper that the conversation could jeopardize one of the intelligence community's key sources on ISIL.

BuzzFeed, the New York Times and Reuters were among the publications who subsequently corroborated the Post's account. talkingpointsmemo.com

So let me correct for accuracy's sake (something some refuse to ever do): McMaster didn't lie to the American people, he deflected onto a tangent of the story that was never in dispute. This is what they do to try and minimize their monumental incompetence and screw-ups.

#15 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-15 07:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The Washington Post is withholding most plot details, including the name of the city, at the urging of officials who warned that revealing them would jeopardize important intelligence capabilities."

McMaster's denials will fall apart if the Washington Post reporters are interviewed in a classified hearing.

#16 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-15 07:46 PM | Reply

"So let me correct for accuracy's sake (something some refuse to ever do): McMaster didn't lie to the American people, he deflected onto a tangent of the story that was never in dispute. This is what they do to try and minimize their monumental incompetence and screw-ups."

Yes, and we need him to do that, so he doesn't get fired by Trump. McMaster denied Trump said what the Post report never said he said. He didn't deny that Trump said what the Post reported he said.

#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-15 07:49 PM | Reply

"McMaster's denials will fall apart if the Washington Post reporters are interviewed in a classified hearing."

We don't know what McMaster's is saying behind the scenes. Hell, he could have instructed someone on his staff to do the leaking. Or maybe the Russians leaked it? Or Kissinger? Who exactly was in the room?

#18 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-15 07:52 PM | Reply

"FAKE"

So you'd have no problem if the tapes from this week got subpoenaed?

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-15 07:52 PM | Reply

Lock him up!

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-05-15 07:55 PM | Reply

If this were Obama, the right in this country would be forming lynch mobs.

I don't know what's more sad - the fact that Trump is in office to begin with, or the fact that so many on the right still defend him.

Of course it's clear his attacks on the press worked. There are those, one of whom who has already posted on this thread, who will believe NO negative story about Trump.

#21 | Posted by dylanfan at 2017-05-15 07:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

FAKE

#13 | POSTED BY MYSTERYTOY

What makes you say that?

#22 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2017-05-15 07:57 PM | Reply

McMaster, who participated in the meeting, went further in his statement to reporters than he did in an earlier statement he provided to the Washington Post. In addition to asserting that the Post's story was "false," he said that on-the-record sources should be given more weight than anonymous ones.

"The President did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known," the national security adviser said. "Two other senior officials who were present, including the secretary of the state, remember the meeting the same way and have said so. Going on the record should outweigh the anonymous sources. I was in the room. It didn't happen."

The White House circulated a statement from Secretary of State Rex Tillerson that parroted the initial statement from McMaster, saying the President and Russian officials only discussed "common threats from terrorist organizations to include threats to aviation."

talkingpointsmemo.com

Someone needs to explain to Trump's team what the actual issue is, the thing they openly admit and try to downplay: Trump talked about specific intelligence information that was highly classified and sensitive 1, because it came from foreign sources and 2, because even snippets of information may reveal both the source(s) and the methods used to obtain the information and compromise the conduit itself.

The hubris of these clowns is breathtaking as they play semantics with global security from terrorists all because Orange Julius Caesar can't keep his mouth shut or at least filtered.

#23 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-15 08:02 PM | Reply

"I bet the Russian photographer got it all on tape. If they didn't have info to blackmail Trump before, they do now. Winning!"

That's what I was thinking.

#24 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-15 08:11 PM | Reply

There is a former double agent on MSNBC right now saying that Trump didn't have to reveal exact details in order to compromise whoever the source of the original information because what he did say was more than enough for ISIL leaders to gather everyone with knowledge of the project and "put a bullet in the back of their heads."

A President is duty-bound to protect friendly intelligence assets helping to protect this nation, not set them up for likely execution.

#25 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-15 08:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is dancing-bananas level hijinks.

#26 | Posted by cbob at 2017-05-15 08:26 PM | Reply

"What makes you say that?"

Leave Mystery alone, at least he had the guts to show up on this thread.

#27 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-15 08:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Once again Trump acts, on a daily basis, recklessly and illegally.

When are the democrats going to grow a set and stop the government until impeachment hearings?

#28 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 08:34 PM | Reply

#25 Foreign intelligence services, who gave us info and said don't share it with other allies, aren't going to take kindly to Trump blabbing to the Russians and potentially getting their agents killed. They aren't likely to share future intel with us until Trump is gone, which puts all of us at greater risk.

#29 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-15 08:36 PM | Reply

I looked at the pictures of the meeting where Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Ambassador to the U.S. Sergey Kislyak are seen laughing uproariously with Trump, now it becomes obvious they were laughing at Trump. I'll be expecting Trump to be whining, "they tricked me" by tomorrow morning. Sorry Trumpettes but that meeting revealed that Donald Trump is simply not presidential material. The sooner you can get your Republican Congress to remove him the better.

#30 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-15 08:41 PM | Reply

I looked at the pictures of the meeting where Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Ambassador to the U.S. Sergey Kislyak are seen laughing uproariously with Trump, now it becomes obvious they were laughing at Trump. I'll be expecting Trump to be whining, "they tricked me" by tomorrow morning. Sorry Trumpettes but that meeting revealed that Donald Trump is simply not presidential material. The sooner you can get your Republican Congress to remove him the better.

#31 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-15 08:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"When are the democrats going to grow a set and stop the government until impeachment hearings?"

The majority party is the one with the responsiblity, I don't really think there is much of anything the Democrats can threaten from the minority. The real question is when will Republicans put country before party?

#32 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-15 08:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"When are the democrats going to grow a set and stop the government until impeachment hearings?"

The majority party is the one with the responsiblity, I don't really think there is much of anything the Democrats can threaten from the minority. The real question is when will Republicans put country before party?

#33 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-15 08:44 PM | Reply

‘Far worse than what has already been reported': Trump's Russian disclosures so serious Senate had to be alerted

After the Washington Post released a bombshell report claiming that President Donald Trump divulged ‘highly classified' information to Russian officials during an Oval Office meeting last week, Buzzfeed News confirmed the reports -- and added that the disclosures were so serious that they required a Senate Intelligence Committee briefing.

According to one anonymous source who spoke with Buzzfeed, the disclosures were "far worse than what has already been reported".

Buzzfeed confirmed that there was at very least a Senate Intelligence Committee briefing, though it appears that other officials were briefed as well.

www.rawstory.com

#34 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2017-05-15 08:47 PM | Reply

The majority party is the one with the responsiblity, I don't really think there is much of anything the Democrats can threaten from the minority. The real question is when will Republicans put country before party?

#33 | Posted by danni

My understanding is that in the Senate the dems can easily shut down all work. Not sure if there is a similar process in the House.

#35 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 08:52 PM | Reply

So, we are now learning that Trump actually is the Manchurian President.

#36 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-15 08:54 PM | Reply

Regardless of the details ....

If I understand it correctly the President of the United States can declassify any material he deems fit to declassify, on a whim, regardless of intelligence agencies input.

I am not saying its a good or bad move, not knowing the details, but he has the right to do so if he deems it in the countries best interest.

Unlike than say ... a SecOfState .....

#37 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2017-05-15 09:01 PM | Reply

"If I understand it correctly the President of the United States can declassify any material he deems fit to declassify, on a whim, regardless of intelligence agencies input.
I am not saying its a good or bad move"

You're not? Really?

Try.

Is it a good move, or a bad move?

Because to this point, merely bringing it up makes you sound like a partisan apologist.

#38 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-15 09:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

"If I understand it correctly the President of the United States can declassify any material he deems fit to declassify

yes.. if the president is a complete moron, he can declassify info that gets americans killed.

and yes.. there will be treasonous Stockholm syndrome jerks that will excuse it too for their own agendas.

#39 | Posted by klifferd at 2017-05-15 09:17 PM | Reply

Because to this point, merely bringing it up makes you sound like a partisan apologist.

And trying to conflate the exposure of a concealed foreign intelligence asset now likely subject to execution to Hillary Clinton having a server in her home that was never compromised makes you the morally bankrupt shill you show yourself to be almost on a daily basis.

The point isn't the legality of moron's disclosure, it's the damage it's done to cooperative foreign intelligence services who'll likely withhold future information because this POTUS can't keep his yap shut and is willing to sacrifice their assets at the throne of his own ego and inflated self-importance.

#40 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-15 09:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Americans and American allies are risking their lives all over the world to bring us information that could stop a major terrorist attack, lead to a terrorist leader's capture or achieve other life-and-death objectives.

This idiot president thinks so little of their sacrifice that he's using their findings as bragging material to an enemy of the United States.

He has to be impeached and removed from office, or the damage he does to our country and our interests will be catastrophic.

#41 | Posted by rcade at 2017-05-15 09:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 9

Once again Trump acts, on a daily basis, recklessly and illegally!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When are the democrats going to grow a set and stop the government until impeachment hearings!!!!!!!!!!

#28 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

However, the report admits that it is "unlikely" Trump broke any laws.

Que the sad trombone.

#42 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-15 09:29 PM | Reply

Blah blah blah taintacoot. This time he MIGHT not have broken a law, but it was a seriously bad thing to do.

Just another act of recklessness by this POS who is a clear and present danger to America.

#43 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 09:33 PM | Reply

He has to be impeached and removed from office, or the damage he does to our country and our interests will be catastrophic.

#41 | Posted by rcade at 2017-05-15 09

I agree we must impeach this rotten stupid bastard!

#44 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2017-05-15 09:33 PM | Reply

"The top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee suggested Thursday President Trump disclosed classified information during a Fox News interview the night before."

thehill.com

Oh wait, 03/16/17 12:34 PM EDT, ----!

#45 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-15 09:34 PM | Reply

Que the sad trombone.

#42 | Posted by tontonmacoute

oh and it's CUE the sad trombone, unless you meant

What the sad trombone

?

#46 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 09:35 PM | Reply

Obama commutes Chelsea Manning's sentence for leaking Army ...

#47 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-15 09:35 PM | Reply

Typo!!!!!!

#48 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-15 09:36 PM | Reply

--------------?

#49 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-05-15 09:36 PM | Reply

Only the dumbest right wingers even bother to defend trump at this point. See above.

#50 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2017-05-15 09:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Loose lips sink ships.

What Donnie did. While possibly legal. May have detrimental effects on our intelligence community.

Causing informants to rethink whether they are willing to come forward with intelligence.

His actions were stupid.

As are your excuses.

#51 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-05-15 09:37 PM | Reply

It doesn't count unless there's an ampersand!!!!&

#52 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-15 09:38 PM | Reply

Alexandrite from the Ural Mountains in Russia (RUSSIA!!!) can be green by daylight and red by incandescent light. Other varieties of alexandrite may be yellowish or pink in daylight

wiki

#53 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-15 09:40 PM | Reply

Impeach now.

#54 | Posted by Zed at 2017-05-15 09:41 PM | Reply

^As delusional as Trump

#55 | Posted by e1g1 at 2017-05-15 09:42 PM | Reply

#45-So Trump has a history of handling intelligence recklessly? Once for political points and now... to impress the Russians?

#56 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 09:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

sorry Zed, that was for Tonamonatawhatevz #53

#57 | Posted by e1g1 at 2017-05-15 09:42 PM | Reply

Que the sad trombone.

This issue isn't law, it's the freaking integrity of the President and the Oval Office.

How long do you think friendly government's will share anti-terrorism intelligence with the US - since they did so with the promise it wouldn't be shared with other nations - since our current POTUS just told the Russians about it in the Oval Office itself?

It just dawned on me that Trump just burned a foreign intelligence asset at the same time so many of them have damning direct evidence against Trump and his business interests. The IC knows the problem isn't the personnel inside the US IC, they know it's the loose-lipped, know nothing acting as President, so my prediction is that this nightmare won't continue for too long. Trump just pissed off all our global allies and their IC's. I expect a flood of leaks from foreign intelligence if the wheels already in motion within the US doesn't expose the truth in a matter of days. Trump is not only a criminal, he's a loose-lipped liability to Western civilization who's becoming more unstable every single day.

#58 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-15 09:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

The New American Right wholly embraces nihilism​. Nothing that's going on now is a joke, and only you bastards are laughing.

#59 | Posted by Zed at 2017-05-15 09:44 PM | Reply

Obama commutes Chelsea Manning's sentence for leaking Army ...

#47 | Posted by tontonmacoute

Ummmm Trump recklessly handling intelligence is the same... how?

#60 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 09:44 PM | Reply

Every single night you nash your teeth and pull what's left of your hair from your balding pates...the next day the fever breaks and on to a new story. Rinse &* repeat.

* for you truth

#61 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-15 09:44 PM | Reply

Why do admire Donald, Baron Samedi? I mean, Ton Ton?

#62 | Posted by Zed at 2017-05-15 09:47 PM | Reply

"Obama commutes Chelsea Manning's sentence
#47 | Posted by tontonmacoute"

So Trump should be sentenced, then pardoned by Pence.
Is that your point?

#63 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-05-15 09:48 PM | Reply

Is it some sort of act?

#64 | Posted by Zed at 2017-05-15 09:48 PM | Reply

Took me a while but now realizing just a trollantacoot

#65 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 09:50 PM | Reply

"Every single night you nash your teeth and pull what's left of your hair from your balding pates...the next day the fever breaks and on to a new story."

You think fiddling Nero style is a better use of the time?

#66 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-05-15 09:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When you leave here, do you cut the throats of chickens. And if it were learned Donald does that, would you care?

#67 | Posted by Zed at 2017-05-15 09:51 PM | Reply

I am not convinced what he did is legal.

there has been established procedure in place to declassify documents, it goes through several hands and is screened by several groups.

I am not sure but I doubt a president can blab state secrets when he wants too

#68 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2017-05-15 09:51 PM | Reply

Why do admire Zed? "unnamed" or "anonymous sources"

"Mirabile dictu, don't you agree?"

#69 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-15 09:52 PM | Reply

"The point isn't the legality of moron's disclosure..."

No, it's that someone leaked it!
~Tucker Carlson, based on his lead story

#70 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-15 09:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Not to speak for Zed, but I believe he admires the truth.

#71 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 09:54 PM | Reply

#69

I wonder about the demonic. It works as a mindset without reference to the supernatural, Pazuzu.

#72 | Posted by Zed at 2017-05-15 09:55 PM | Reply

This is code-word information," said a U.S. official familiar with the matter...

So there you have it...Jesus, the Washington Post.

#73 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-15 09:55 PM | Reply

Tonto,

Whilst I agree that unnamed sources should be taken with a grain of salt, they are not ALWAYS bogus. Working anonymous sources is common for journalists and their reputation is on the line when citing an anonymous source.

#74 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-05-15 09:56 PM | Reply

However, the report admits that it is "unlikely" Trump broke any laws. Que the sad trombone.

The reason he might not have broken the law is because the president can declassify anything he wants to reveal.

That doesn't mean he should. It just means he can.

He can still be impeached over it.

The fact this comment is your first contribution to this discussion is pathetic. You don't care about your country at all.

#75 | Posted by rcade at 2017-05-15 09:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

IDK if this is applicable

but

www.quora.com

With the exception of certain information the disclosure of which is prohibited by statute (mainly the Atomic Energy Act, which makes certain information about nuclear weapons statutory secrets), the President is the final arbiter of what is and is not subject to classification. The entire classification scheme is due (except for the aforementioned nuclear secrets protected by the AEA) to a series of executive orders by the President, and has no statutory basis whatsoever. Since it's created based on the power of the President, it can also be torn down by that same power.

Thus, if the President so chose, the President could declassify every single classified document, other than those classified pursuant to the AEA. However, some of them would still be subject to restrictions from release due to other statutory restrictions. For example, there is a statute (the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982) that prohibits the dissemination or propagation of information for the purpose of attempting to determine the identity of a US foreign agent. The President doesn't have the authority to set aside the IIPA, and so such documents might still have to be withheld or redacted, even if declassified, in order to satisfy the statutory obligations of this law. In general, the Freedom of Information Act doesn't make every unclassified document available for public inspection. Even the complete dismantling of the document classification system currently in use would not directly and immediately lead to the public release of every document held by the government, as some have suggested.

I suppose Trump is clear as these, presumably, are NOT US foreign agents.

#76 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 09:57 PM | Reply

Reading the attitude in this thread, if Obama had just declassified whatever was in Hillary's emails, that woulda won over all the Trump voters.

#77 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-05-15 10:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Post is withholding most plot details, including the name of the city, at the urging of officials who warned that revealing them would jeopardize important intelligence capabilities.

"Everyone knows this stream is very sensitive, and the idea of sharing it at this level of granularity with the Russians is troubling," said a former senior U.S. counterterrorism official who also worked closely with members of the Trump national security team. He and others spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing the sensitivity of the subject.

The identification of the location was seen as particularly problematic, officials said, because Russia could use that detail to help identify the U.S. ally or intelligence capability involved. Officials said the capability could be useful for other purposes, possibly providing intelligence on Russia's presence in Syria. Moscow would be keenly interested in identifying that source and perhaps disrupting it.

Truthhurts:
So, if I'm not mistaken, if what Trump disclosed could lead to the Russians finding out about a US foreign agent that would be breaking the law. So Trump revealed the location of the source of the intelligence. If this location, ie City, means US asset than Trump broke the law.

#79 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 10:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ton: Sure, you support American* values.
That's why your screen name is Duvalier's secret police.

*You support antebellum American values. I can allow that.

#80 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-05-15 10:04 PM | Reply

Correction, s/b I don't care about your view of my country at all.

It's getting late after a long day guys - ciao!

#81 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-15 10:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Why did you let go of this sizzler?

#78 | Posted by tontonmacoute

What are you babbling about? Seriously, take your meds or something.

#82 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 10:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You mean you'll be back again tomorrow, to troll more? Hooray!

#83 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-05-15 10:05 PM | Reply

*You support antebellum American values. I can allow that.

#80 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Don't forget the statues of dead Confederates, BTW what is a Snoofy?

#84 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-15 10:06 PM | Reply

I love how many right wingers don't think or care that loose lips sink ships.

Truly impressive how far off course their rudderless party has gone.

#85 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-05-15 10:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

What are you babbling about? Seriously, take your meds or something.

#82 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

You seemed hysterical last Thursday, good to see you back to norm.

#86 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-15 10:08 PM | Reply

Again let me summarize

Trump released information including a City location that is the source of a terrorist plot-presumably with other information. This City information is very sensitive, because "Russia could use that detail to help identify the U.S. ally or intelligence capability involved"

Intelligence capability most certainly COULD include human assets.

if those human assets are US agents, Trump broke the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982 that prohibits the dissemination or propagation of information for the purpose of attempting to determine the identity of a US foreign agent

seems, at a minimum, Trump broke the SPIRIT of the IIPA.

#87 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 10:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"BTW what is a Snoofy"

Well it's not a terror group, unlike the things you choose to identify with.

#88 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-05-15 10:10 PM | Reply

You seemed hysterical last Thursday, good to see you back to norm.

#86 | Posted by tontonmacoute

If you are not upset about Trump's actions you are either a moron or a traitor.

#89 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 10:10 PM | Reply

Truly impressive how far off course their rudderless party has gone.

#85 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

You see it's caca like this that is strangling the left. The Rudderless (R) party and they are pathetic controls everything!

#90 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-15 10:11 PM | Reply

Correction, s/b I don't care about your view of my country at all.

What is your country, Tonton? It's not clear from your comments. If you're Russian, I apologize, because you've demonstrated loyalty to it.

#91 | Posted by rcade at 2017-05-15 10:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Time to got to bed Gunny Sack

#92 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 10:12 PM | Reply

#37 | Posted by AndreaMackris
#76 | Posted by truthhurts

You both overlook a critical detail:

The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia ...

The information did not belong to the US, it was not Trump's to "declassify" or release or discuss or anything else. It was entrusted to a partner for personal use. One who breached a fiduciary duty. Think that partner or any other won't think twice before entrusting such information in the future?

#93 | Posted by et_al at 2017-05-15 10:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

"There is nothing that the President takes more seriously than the security of the American people.

The story that came out tonight as reported is false. The president the foreign minister reviewed a range of common threats to our two countries, including threats to civil aviation.

At no time, at no time were intelligence sources or methods discussed. And the president did not disclose any military operations that were not already publicly known.

Two other senior officials who were present, including the Secretary of State, remembered the meeting the same way and have said so. Their on-the-record accounts should outweigh those of anonymous sources.

I was in the room. It didn't happen."

McMaster transcript on CNN. Seems pretty clear....FakeNews from WaPo with anon sources, you'd think you might see a pattern.

Good luck...

#94 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2017-05-15 10:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Depending on what Trump actually said:

this may well be a violation of the President's oath of office. Questions of criminality aside, we turn to the far more significant issues: If the President gave this information away through carelessness or neglect, he has arguably breached his oath of office. As Quinta and Ben have elaborated on in some detail, in taking the oath President Trump swore to "faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States" and to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States" to the best of his ability. It's very hard to argue that carelessly giving away highly sensitive material to an adversary foreign power constitutes a faithful execution of the office of President.

Violating the oath of office does not require violating a criminal statute. If the President decided to write the nuclear codes on a sticky note on his desk and then took a photo of it and tweeted it, he would not technically have violated any criminal law–just as he hasn't here. He has the constitutional authority to dictate that the safeguarding of nuclear materials shall be done through sticky notes in plain sight and tweeted, even the authority to declassify the codes outright. Yet, we would all understand this degree of negligence to be a gross violation of his oath of office.

lawfareblog.com

#95 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-15 10:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Think that partner or any other won't think twice before entrusting such information in the future? Etal.

Seems like WaPo is trying to cause trouble with us allies.

#96 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2017-05-15 10:17 PM | Reply

#93, I agree whole heartedly, I am considering whether he broke US law.

#97 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 10:18 PM | Reply

McMaster transcript on CNN. Seems pretty clear....FakeNews from WaPo with anon sources, you'd think you might see a pattern.

Good luck...

#94 | Posted by AndreaMackris at

The issue isn't what McMaster's denied, it was the information regarding the location of the source of intel as it relates to the terrorist attack. McMaster's didn't deny that.

#98 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 10:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

At no time, at no time were intelligence sources or methods discussed.

That doesn't matter if the highly classified information he revealed made it possible for the source of that information to be reverse engineered.

#99 | Posted by rcade at 2017-05-15 10:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#95

The very fact this topic has become the dominate issue of discussion in this travesty tells us all we need to know about the state of America today.

Trump accurately defined his staunchest followers with his 'I could commit murder..." statement and these recent days confirm's its truth.

Trump is murdering this nation's conventions and everything we expect from a President of the United States and far too many don't give a ----.

#100 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-15 10:22 PM | Reply

That doesn't matter if the highly classified information he revealed made it possible for the source of that information to be reverse engineered.

#99 | POSTED BY RCADE


"As always, RCADE should you or any of your DR force be caught or killed, the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions"

#101 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-15 10:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"You see it's caca like this that is strangling the left. The Rudderless (R) party and they are pathetic controls everything!"

If you find some moral core at the heart of the GOP, please tell me what it looks like. Does it look like this?
$

#102 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-05-15 10:24 PM | Reply

I would give him and the vice president until Friday at noon to resign the office or I would immediately begin impeachment proceedings. Subsequent to those proceedings, I would demand a full investigation it's all the connections with Russia the team Trump has had. Let's hope the Democrats actually follow suit this time.

#103 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-05-15 10:27 PM | Reply

I tell you what Snoofy, I can tell you exactly what the Democratic party could use to take control again, truly.

I would tell them if I had any real power or influence to pretty much ignore Trump and every perceived hiccup and...

#104 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-15 10:31 PM | Reply

they won't unfortunately

#105 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 10:31 PM | Reply

Bombshell: Initial Thoughts on the Washington Post's Game-Changing Story www.lawfareblog.com

This is perhaps the gravest allegation of presidential misconduct in the scandal-ridden four months of the Trump administration. This story is likely to be immensely consequential. Below are some initial thoughts based on the facts available about what this story is, what it isn't, and what we do and do not yet know.
There follows 9 detailed points and the conclusion.

Bottom line: It matters who we have running the most powerful institution in the world.

#106 | Posted by et_al at 2017-05-15 10:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

How, exactly does one ignore treason and obstruction of justice, Gunny Sack?

#107 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 10:32 PM | Reply

Wirtschaftswunder (German for "economic miracle") the socioeconomic model combining a free market capitalist economic system alongside social policies which establish both fair competition within the market and a welfare state.

That's all and there you have it, the path back to victory.

The social market economy was originally promoted and implemented in West Germany by the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) under Chancellor Konrad Adenauer in 1949. Its origins can be traced to the interwar Freiburg school of economic thought.

wiki

#108 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-15 10:35 PM | Reply

#106 Good read. It's the article I quoted from in #95.

#109 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-15 10:36 PM | Reply

How, exactly does one ignore treason and obstruction of justice, Gunny Sack?

#107 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Not acting like a Cassandra for starters.

#110 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-15 10:37 PM | Reply

#109

I saw that after I posted.

#111 | Posted by et_al at 2017-05-15 10:38 PM | Reply

And oh a little less shrill too, would go a long way.

#112 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-15 10:39 PM | Reply

Think that partner or any other won't think twice before entrusting such information in the future?

They should.

As long as Donnie "loose lips" Dump is the POTUS.

Seems like WaPo is trying to cause trouble with us allies.
#96 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS AT 2017-05-15 10:17 PM | FLAG:

Damn WaPo for reporting on Donnie's ineptitude!!!

Andreà. You're a worthless poster. And even more a more worthless human being.

#113 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-05-15 10:39 PM | Reply

Prediction: Acting FBI Director Rosenstein wouldn't announce a special prosecutor last week for the Trump affairs not because he thinks Trump is innocent but because he knows the machinations already at work will bring Trump down before a SP could even get started.

When he pulled the Chair and ranking committee members from the Senate Intelligence meeting last Thursday it wasn't because of information related to the Comey firing. It was to give them a heads up on Trump giving intell to the Russians in the Oval Office, the story that became public today.

#114 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-15 10:46 PM | Reply

Tony, you have far more confidence than I that trump etal will ever be held accountable. W never got held accountable, nor will trump

#115 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 10:48 PM | Reply

[Y]ou'd think you might see a pattern.

I do. It harkens to the drip, drip, drip of anonymous sources in the early '70's. Do you not see it also?

#116 | Posted by et_al at 2017-05-15 10:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Our Vice President has also colluded with the Russians, so just simple impeachment will not fix this. This country has a major Constitutional crisis on its hands. We now know that our President and Vice President, and many members of the administration, have close ties to the Russians so strong that they will reveal intelligence information to them. We've got a big problem on our hands.

#117 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-15 10:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"It just dawned on me that Trump just burned a foreign intelligence asset at the same time so many of them have damning direct evidence against Trump and his business interests."

What we don't know is what country gave us the intel. Could Trump's leak be deliberate and vengeful? For example, rumor has it that the French have compromising tapes on Don Jr and Eric. We know the Steele dossier was originated by a Brit. Seven or eight countries have been bandied about as having info on Team Trump and the Russians. What if Trump's so-called loose lips slip was a warning shot to one--or all--of them? I'm not saying it was, but this is Trump we are talking about, so sadly the question has to be raised.

#118 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-15 10:55 PM | Reply

Could all be a counter intelligence operation: "bumbling" CIC lets something slip. Leakers sound the alarm, seemingly validating the intel. And US intel sits back and watches to see how the Russians respond, maybe get a bead on a few of their sources in the area.

#119 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-05-15 10:58 PM | Reply

We've got a big problem on our hands.

#117 | POSTED BY DANNI

You sure do, your party can gamble everything on taking down Trump, lose and go they way of the Whigs or you can get a better message. Hillary just started "Onward Together" which is just painful.

#120 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-15 11:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Please let there be tapes!

#121 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-05-15 11:02 PM | Reply

Our Vice President has also colluded with the Russians, so just simple impeachment will not fix this.

#117 | POSTED BY DANNI

How do you sleep?

#122 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-15 11:05 PM | Reply

your party can gamble everything on taking down Trump, lose and go they way of the Whigs

I hope the dems do gamble everything on taking down Dump.

But. Even if they can't. They'll still win the same senate seats they always do and they'll try harder in 2020 to regain the presidency.

#123 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-05-15 11:06 PM | Reply

"McMaster transcript on CNN. Seems pretty clear....FakeNews from WaPo with anon sources"

You're a riot. If it's fake news, why were security guys scrambling to fix Trump's mess? Fake cleanup?

If you read McMaster's transcript, you'll notice he denied very particular things, which were never claimed.

#124 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-15 11:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Was it just a coincidence that Nick Warner, the Director-General of the Australian Secret Intelligence Service (the US equivalent would be the head of the CIA) was subjected to a cavity search at LAX earlier this year:

You'd think being the top government spy of a staunch US ally – travelling on a diplomatic passport – would spare you the latex welcome, but no. Not even. Warner got the full treatment last month at LAX arrivals, transferring for meetings in the capital (including, you'd safely assume, at Langley, Virginia). Could you imagine the uproar in Washington if John Brennan or Meroe Park copped a solid frisking at Tullamarine? Yeah right – as if they'd even countenance the indignity of flying commercial!

www.afr.com

#125 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-15 11:07 PM | Reply

"Could all be a counter intelligence operation: "bumbling" CIC lets something slip. Leakers sound the alarm, seemingly validating the intel. And US intel sits back and watches to see how the Russians respond, maybe get a bead on a few of their sources in the area."

In this scenario, was Trump in on the op or not?

#126 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-15 11:10 PM | Reply

#118

At this point I wouldn't put anything past Trump if he perceived some pleasure in doing so. The photos that TASS released were just the cherry on top of the sundae. Trump got played like no President in history from within this nation's Oval Office, the very center of American power. The Russians are LAUGHING at his fool ass in the Oval! If you were the foreign government that shared this intell how would you feel to realize your well-placed source was outed by the POTUS to two known Russian spies inside the Oval Office itself?

Bizzaro world to the infinite degree. The POTUS is an unreliable person with which to disseminate sensitive information lest he blab it to whomever he's trying to impress at any given moment.

Trump just dropped his drawers and took a giant ---- in the middle of the Oval Office toward every man that preceded him and we've got clowns playing politics with the safety and security of the United States of America to who's Constitution Trump swore to protect and defend. You do not protect and defend this nation by loosely divulging the fruits of another nation's priceless intelligence work to an avowed hostile power's spies while laughing and joking as their state photographer takes your pictures and probably drops a few bugs in the process.

The ways this is unconscionable and wholly opposed to the safety and security of this nation probably cannot yet be quantified, but I welcome any argument that somehow Trump's disclosure stands top make America safer or did no harm, for mainly like the dodo, such an argument doesn't exist.

#127 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-15 11:12 PM | Reply

He told them Hillary was a bitch.

#128 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-05-15 11:15 PM | Reply

Remember the stabbing scene in Saving Private Ryan?

Trump is the German and you guys are...

Adam Goldberg

You fight and fight but slowly the blade goes in.

#129 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-15 11:17 PM | Reply

In this scenario, was Trump in on the op or not?

#126 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY AT 2017-05-15 11:10 PM | FLAG:

Provocative question!

#130 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-05-15 11:18 PM | Reply

hahaha Gunny Sack calls Trump a Nazi.

#131 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 11:19 PM | Reply

"He told them Hillary was a bitch."

Hardly classified.

#132 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-15 11:19 PM | Reply

Trump is in trouble. We are getting to the point where people don't want just an impeachment. They want a reckoning. Since Trump has take office it has been too much. Too quickly. All handled way too poorly.

#133 | Posted by moder8 at 2017-05-15 11:19 PM | Reply

You underestimate America's capacity for eating ---- and asking for more.

#134 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 11:20 PM | Reply

#132 | Posted by Danforth
Not in Dem's minds.

#135 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-05-15 11:22 PM | Reply

#133 | Posted by moder8
You listen to yourself too much.

#136 | Posted by Federalist at 2017-05-15 11:23 PM | Reply

Overheard tonight at the WH:

See? That's how to get them to stop talking about Comey!

#Winning!

#137 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-15 11:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"McMaster transcript on CNN. Seems pretty clear."

yes its clear. its clear that McMaster is also lying. Sorry y'all have zero credibility.

#138 | Posted by klifferd at 2017-05-15 11:28 PM | Reply

#128

Putin already knew that... he also knew that she was our bitch and he didn't want any part of her. Which is why he helped Trump win, which is why Trump is revealing classified intel to the Russians.

Tonto is obviously being manipulated by the same Russian oligarchs into cleaning up after Trump.

He's sorta Bullwinkle to their Boris and Natasha.

#139 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-15 11:29 PM | Reply

Tomorrow's Daily News front cover proclaims Trump "Leaker of the Free World."

#140 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-15 11:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

"McMaster transcript on CNN. Seems pretty clear....FakeNews from WaPo with anon sources"

You're a riot. If it's fake news, why were security guys scrambling to fix Trump's mess? Fake cleanup?

A fake cleanup be eagerly consumed by Fake Plastic People.

#141 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-05-15 11:32 PM | Reply

"See? That's how to get them to stop talking about Comey!"

Hey Rocky. Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!

#142 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-05-15 11:35 PM | Reply

Sources speaking on condition of anonymity say Trump told the Russians ISIS is a terrorist organization, and does terroristy stuff.

#143 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2017-05-15 11:37 PM | Reply

#143

Putin has patsies everywhere!

#144 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-15 11:40 PM | Reply

How bad could this be? He is just accused of sharing classified intel on a mutual enemy with the Russians.

#145 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-05-15 11:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"How bad could this be? He is just accused of sharing classified intel on a mutual enemy with the Russians."

You can't possibly be that clueless.

#146 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-15 11:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You can't possibly be that clueless.

#146 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2017-05-15 11:45 PM | FLAG:

Seriously, what are they going to do? Tip ISIS off? For what purpose?

#147 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-05-15 11:50 PM | Reply

National security experts: Trump's sharing classified info with Russia 'may breach his oath of office'

Many have noted that Trump, as president, is technically allowed to disclose classified information to whoever he wants. But the fact that the information he shared was not a US secret, but that of an American ally, may complicate his authority to declassify information at will. Matthew Rosenberg of The New York Times told CNN on Monday that the intel came from a close "Middle Eastern ally."

www.businessinsider.com

#148 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-15 11:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

you realize the US and Russia have competing interests in Syria and Iraq, correct?

#149 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 11:52 PM | Reply

from unnamed official

#demsr********liars

for those of you who only read the headline...

"As president, Trump has broad authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law.

White House officials involved in the meeting said Trump discussed only shared concerns about terrorism."

BM

#150 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-05-15 11:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"You sure do, your party can gamble everything on taking down Trump,"

What are we gambling by waiting and watching to see what revelations, which are coming, that will bring down Trump? You're taking a long odds bet that everything will turn out fine for Trump. Bad bet.

#151 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-15 11:53 PM | Reply

Remember WAY BACK WHEN, when Trump was trying to take health care away from millions? Ahhh the good old days.

#152 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 11:53 PM | Reply

White House officials involved in the meeting said Trump discussed only shared concerns about terrorism."

BM

#150 | Posted by afkabl2

yeah that is why the white house immediately scrambled into damage control.

BM-exactly

#153 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-15 11:55 PM | Reply

#150 - you showed up late, but you're here. Now if you'd only read the thread you'd know that we already covered that! :)

#154 | Posted by YAV at 2017-05-15 11:56 PM | Reply

#153 - Great line from the movie "Guardians of the Galaxy 2" fits that "BM" really nicely - but no spoilers!

#155 | Posted by YAV at 2017-05-15 11:59 PM | Reply

you realize the US and Russia have competing interests in Syria and Iraq, correct?

#149 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2017-05-15 11:52 PM | FLAG:

So you DO think Russia will tip ISIS off?

#156 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-05-16 12:00 AM | Reply

Seriously, what are they going to do? Tip ISIS off? For what purpose?
#147 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN AT 2017-05-15 11:50 PM

It was against protocol. Amateur hour. It sucks, and is damaging, but as you're alluding isn't the end of the world either. Of course, since you asked questions you're now a "Putin patsy" according to some here.

#157 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2017-05-16 12:01 AM | Reply

"It sucks, and is damaging, but as you're alluding isn't the end of the world either."

It certainly is for one brave person who put his trust in Trump's America.

#158 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-16 12:03 AM | Reply

So you DO think Russia will tip ISIS off?

#156 | Posted by DirkStruan

No I think a. the Russians will mess with ---- to destabilize our position there including putting our assets in danger, b. use the intel to further their agenda at our expense and c. leak ---- to our allies to cause conflict in our intelligence sharing.

You should try thinking before posting.

#159 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-16 12:03 AM | Reply

"you realize the US and Russia have competing interests in Syria and Iraq, correct?"

I'm not really even sure that is true, what are our competing interests?

#160 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-16 12:04 AM | Reply

#150 | POSTED BY AFKABL2 AT 2017-05-15 11:53 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

You're late to the table and your talking points are old and stale.

#161 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-05-16 12:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"So you DO think Russia will tip ISIS off?"

More than that, they will try to create the worst disaster in history for America and our intelligence community. This is a huge disaster for our intel community but also for our special forces whose lives will now be more at risk. Dumbest political move in my lifetime. Trump is an idiot. His stupidity borders on treason, no one should be allowed to be that stupid and also be President. He should be relieved of duty immediately. If he were a General or an ADmiral he would be. Think about that. We have to remove this moron from the Presidencey immediately.

#162 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-16 12:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"No I think a. the Russians will mess with ---- to destabilize our position there including putting our assets in danger"

Which is different from tipping ISIS off how?

"b. use the intel to further their agenda at our expense and"

What intel? The stuff willingly provided by a US president? How much use could they possibly get out of it?

"c. leak ---- to our allies to cause conflict in our intelligence sharing."

Same question as above.

#163 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-05-16 12:10 AM | Reply

It sucks, and is damaging, but as you're alluding isn't the end of the world either.

One of our allies provided this highly classified intel on an ISIS plot to us. Trump shared it with Russia, an adversary of the United States.

If that ally or other allies stop sharing ISIS intel with the U.S., based on the risk it will end up in the hands of Russia and its allies like Iran and Syria, that could be end of the world stuff. What if an ally finds out about a credible suitcase nuke plot -- will they tell us?

#164 | Posted by rcade at 2017-05-16 12:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The Wall Street Journal has confirmed that Trump told highly classified intel to the Russians:

www.wsj.com

#166 | Posted by rcade at 2017-05-16 12:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#164. That's why I said it was damaging.

#167 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2017-05-16 12:12 AM | Reply

"you realize the US and Russia have competing interests in Syria and Iraq, correct?"

I'm not really even sure that is true, what are our competing interests?

Russia's interest in Syria is supporting Assad.

America's interest in Syria is ousting Assad. And building a pipeline through the country. Which is why we supported the rebels during the civil war.

The only common interest is eliminating ISIS. Which is made difficult because they are supported by Saudi Arabia.

#168 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-05-16 12:17 AM | Reply

"Someone pass me a tissue, someone's going to die in the War on Terror, lol."

Yeah.

Someone who put his life on the line because he believed in America.

Keep laughing.

#170 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-16 12:18 AM | Reply

The only common interest is eliminating ISIS.
#168 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2017-05-16 12:17 AM

Or so they say.

#171 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2017-05-16 12:19 AM | Reply

"The only common interest is eliminating ISIS."

Which was the intel that was shared. So what's the harm?

#174 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-05-16 12:21 AM | Reply

#150 | POSTED BY AFKABL2 AT 2017-05-15 11:53 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

You're late to the table and your talking points are old and stale.

#161 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-05-16 12:06

#demsr*****liars

BM

CBS News

@CBSNews

MORE: "I was in the room," H.R. McMaster says, responding to WaPo Russia report. "It didn't happen." cbsn.ws
6:10 PM - 15 May 2017

#175 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-05-16 12:21 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Dickstain, say the Intel came from Israeli sources-which it VERY possibly could. Mossad is already on record about concerns about their intel being communicated to Trump for fear of passing it along to Iran. Do you think this action will make Mossad MORE or LESS likely to share intel? Do you think that Mossad intel could aid in the saving of US lives?

#177 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-16 12:25 AM | Reply

#173

Security guys were scrambling all day to cover Trump's mess. Are they all liars, too?

#178 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-16 12:27 AM | Reply

"Someone pass me a tissue, someone's going to die in the War on Terror, lol."

Just use your underwear like you usually do.

#179 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-16 12:27 AM | Reply

"What if an ally finds out about a credible suitcase nuke plot -- will they tell us?"

Why wouldn't they? Why wouldn't they share it with every intelligence and law enforcement agency on the on the planet?

#180 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-05-16 12:28 AM | Reply

Why wouldn't they? Why wouldn't they share it with every intelligence and law enforcement agency on the on the planet?

#180 | Posted by DirkStruan

self interest.

#181 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-16 12:29 AM | Reply

"Am I really supposed to believe the same people who did nothing but make excuses for all the dissected brown kids splayed across the desert rocks for 8 years of Obama's drone strikes actually give a crap about innocents killed in this mess?"

Am I really supposed to believe someone is so dumb they can't discern between true collateral damage, and mindlessly undermining a valued counterintelligence asset?

#182 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-16 12:30 AM | Reply

Just use your underwear like you usually do.
#179 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY AT 2017-05-16 12:27 AM

Use your oversized grandma undies to wipe your crocodile tears.

#183 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2017-05-16 12:30 AM | Reply

Why wouldn't they? Why wouldn't they share it with every intelligence and law enforcement agency on the on the planet?

#180 | Posted by DirkStruan

I wonder if any foreign intelligence services had intel about 9/11 that wasn't shared.

#184 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-16 12:31 AM | Reply

How bad could this be? He is just accused of sharing classified intel on a mutual enemy with the Russians.
#145 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN AT 2017-05-15 11:40 PM | FLAG:

He is accused of sharing classified intel.

Where did you get the information it's about ISIS?

#185 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-05-16 12:32 AM | Reply

LOCK THIS TREASONOUS BASTARD UP!

Looks like it might be time to warm up "Old Sparky", and start making "seating reservations" for more than a few politicians that have an (R) after their name that involved in this disastrous fiasco.

#186 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2017-05-16 12:33 AM | Reply

Funny to see the usual cohort defending him.

How dumb are Trumpers? Trump literally told them he fired Comey because of the Russia Investigation and they still don't believe it.

#187 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-05-16 12:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

self interest.

#181 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2017-05-16 12:29 AM | FLAG:

Whose interest would be served by something like that? It would mean full on global chaos. Do you often ascribe that level of cartoonish supervillainy to America's geopolitical rivals?

#188 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-05-16 12:36 AM | Reply

Am I really supposed to believe someone is so dumb they can't discern between true collateral damage, and mindlessly undermining a valued counterintelligence asset?
#182 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2017-05-16 12:30 AM

You're just pissed I'm not coozing out over it enough. I said it was damaging, but not the "end of the world." "OMG NAZI RUSSIA LOVER!!!" was basically your response. Pretending that an asset getting his or her ass kicked somewhere warrants my sympathy because they "believed in America" is so ------- corny it could be made into a Wal-Mart greeting card.

#189 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2017-05-16 12:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He is accused of sharing classified intel.
Where did you get the information it's about ISIS?

#185 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2017-05-16 12:32 AM | FLAG:

That was supposedly the topic of conversation. Presumably, that's what the intel would have been in regards to.

#190 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-05-16 12:39 AM | Reply

"I said it was damaging, but not the "end of the world."

And I said, for (at least) one poor guy who trusted Trump's America, it is.

""OMG NAZI RUSSIA LOVER!!!" was basically your response."

Godwin is a genius.

"Pretending that an asset getting his or her ass kicked somewhere warrants my sympathy..."

Ass kicked??? Good God, are you actually that bloody naive?

#191 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-16 12:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Whose interest would be served by something like that? It would mean full on global chaos. Do you often ascribe that level of cartoonish supervillainy to America's geopolitical rivals?

#188 | Posted by DirkStruan at

I'll ask you again

Do you think any foreign intelligence services had intel about 9/11 that wasn't shared?

Keep in mind that out ally Pakistan shielded OBL for years.

#192 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-16 12:39 AM | Reply

Pretending that an asset getting his or her ass kicked somewhere warrants my sympathy because they "believed in America" is so ------- corny it could be made into a Wal-Mart greeting card.

#189 | POSTED BY LIVE_OR_DIE

It means that one of our greatest assets in protecting against terror attacks and defeating ISIS is now gone.

#193 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-05-16 12:40 AM | Reply

And I said, for (at least) one poor guy who trusted Trump's America, it is.
#191 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2017-05-16 12:39 AM

Oh no! *tear* So sad! HAHA

#194 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2017-05-16 12:41 AM | Reply

As I take my own advice and move back into the world of academia which requires hours of daily research and practice,

AND before that hiatus begins........IT"S A PLEASURE to point out the typical and not unexpected hypocrisy that permeates the

leftist world this evening....

that EVEN IF the report is correct.....

SUDDENLY.....you hypocritical whiners are concerned with the alleged mishandling of classified information.

BM

#195 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-05-16 12:42 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Oh no! *tear* So sad! HAHA

#194 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE

How do you smell when you cut off your own nose to spite your face?

Pretty bad I bet.

#196 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-16 12:43 AM | Reply

Breaking: Trump revealed Borscht is nasty!

#197 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2017-05-16 12:43 AM | Reply

I'll ask you again
Do you think any foreign intelligence services had intel about 9/11 that wasn't shared?
Keep in mind that out ally Pakistan shielded OBL for years.

#192 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2017-05-16 12:39 AM | FLAG:

Maybe. Apples and oranges.

#198 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-05-16 12:44 AM | Reply

You don't think that terrorists would be willing to set off a suitcase nuke here and an allied intel service would withhold that info? Even though you admit it might have happened with 9/11?

Ummm ok

#199 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-16 12:46 AM | Reply

SUDDENLY.....you hypocritical whiners are concerned with the alleged mishandling of classified information.
BM
#195 | POSTED BY AFKABL2

This isn't mishandling. Hillary Clinton mishandled classified information in the same way Bill Buckner mishandled a baseball. Trump handed classified information to the Russians like Putin was ordering take-out.

#200 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-05-16 12:46 AM | Reply

You don't think that terrorists would be willing to set off a suitcase nuke here and an allied intel service would withhold that info? Even though you admit it might have happened with 9/11?
Ummm ok

#199 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2017-05-16 12:46 AM | FLAG:

Correct. Who would benefit from global chaos on that scale? Definitely not any ally of the US. And probably not even an enemy.

#201 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-05-16 12:51 AM | Reply

"you hypocritical whiners are concerned with the alleged mishandling of classified information. "

Well, sir, this is a great opportunity to show you're not a hypocrite. You certainly condemned Hillary for even the possibility of what Trump did. Are you going to condemn Trump with the same gusto? Or are you just a hypocritical whiner?

#202 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-16 12:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

Correct. Who would benefit from global chaos on that scale? Definitely not any ally of the US. And probably not even an enemy.

#201 | Posted by DirkStruan

Your attitude is sooo 9/10/01

Again, our ALLY Pakistan hid OBL for years from us. So no, Allies wont do what you want them to do

#203 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-16 12:53 AM | Reply

Or are you just a hypocritical whiner?

#202 | Posted by Danforth

yes

#204 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-16 12:53 AM | Reply

At the news an intelligence sharing partnership has just been compromised, with certain fatal results:

"Oh no! *tear* So sad! HAHA"

Ladies and Gentlemen...today's Republican Party.

#205 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-16 12:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

- since you asked questions

You weren't asking questions, you were giving cover.

#206 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-16 12:54 AM | Reply

-Or are you just a hypocritical whiner?
#202 | Posted by Danforth
yes
#204 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Definitely yes.

#207 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-16 01:00 AM | Reply

"According to the poll, 59 percent of adults, including 41 percent of Republicans and 79 percent of Democrats, agreed that "Congress should launch an independent investigation into communications between the Russian government and the Trump campaign during the 2016 election."

That compares with 54 percent of all adults, including 30 percent of Republicans and 81 percent of Democrats, who felt that way when the poll last asked the question in February."

www.reuters.com

#208 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-16 01:02 AM | Reply

"It's simple: Individuals who are ‘extremely careless' w/ classified info should be denied further access to it."
~Paul Ryan

Oh, wait...he was talking about a Democrat.

Never mind.

#209 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-16 01:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

That was supposedly the topic of conversation. Presumably, that's what the intel would have been in regards to.

So you assume to know what information was divulged.

Got it.

#210 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-05-16 01:39 AM | Reply

So you assume to know what information was divulged.
Got it.

#210 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2017-05-16 01:39 AM | FLAG:

I do indeed. But by all means, assume the worst: the president of the United States probably went off on a wild tangent and disclosed intel gleaned from sources inside Russia, China, and Micronesia before having a few drinks too many times and chattering all about Area 51.

#211 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-05-16 02:23 AM | Reply

Laura?
.
Jeff?

Game
.
.
.
Set
.
.
.
Match
.
.
Don't ever want to hear another word about it.

#212 | Posted by bocaink at 2017-05-16 02:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

But by all means, assume the worst:

I haven't assumed the best, or the worst. Or anything.

But. I'm not of the opinion that it's not a big deal.

Donnie divulged information he didn't have permission to share.

Seems like you could careless.

Donnie thanks you for your support.

#213 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-05-16 03:03 AM | Reply

Seems like you could careless.
Donnie thanks you for your support.

#213 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2017-05-16 03:03 AM | FLAG:

What can I say? I try not to waste time worrying about such trivialities. If there was wrongdoing, you'll never prove it. You'll certainly never prove any actual harm. Secrets are bandied about all the time in international relations: they are one of the perennial currencies of
diplomacy. Pretending like this barely sourced bit of pseudo-news is some sort of five alarm fire doesn't hurt the administration's credibility, merely your own.

But by all means, let's discuss this for a few dozen more news cycles and pretend it will go somewhere, while environmental protections get peeled away one executive order at a time and the senate GOP schemes about how to make Trumpcare the law of the land.

#214 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-05-16 03:22 AM | Reply

I try not to waste time worrying about such trivialities.

And yet here you are. Posting in this thread. Braying like a jackass.

#215 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-05-16 04:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Laura?
.
Jeff?

Game
.
.
.
Set
.
.
.
Match
.
.
Don't ever want to hear another word about it.

Posted by bocaink at 2017-05-16 02:48 AM | Reply

Apparently you don't want to learn about the reasons for Hillary losing. Sad but par for the course I am afraid.

#216 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-05-16 04:52 AM | Reply

Seems like you could careless.
#213 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2017-05-16 03:03 AM

Not being hysterically outraged 24/7 is a capital offense these days, lol.

#217 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2017-05-16 04:52 AM | Reply

#216

They're just shell shocked from all the armed violence in Ann Arbor. That place is practically a war zone.

#218 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2017-05-16 04:56 AM | Reply

It's been true all along. Trump really is stupid. Not just average Joe stupid but clinically, mentally, morally, sucker, sellout, dropout and loser S-T-U-P-I-D ~ seriously dumb as a sack of rocks.

That's your leader, righties. You must be so proud to call him one of your own.

#220 | Posted by Twinpac at 2017-05-16 05:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Where we're at: Trump is leaking to the Russians, and someone in the Oval Office with him is leaking about what he's leaking

The leak may not have come from within the WH. It could have been someone in the IC that was eavesdropping on the conversation between one of the Russians attending the mtg. I imagine the conversation between the Russians beginning something like this: Can you believe what that dumbass just told us?

#221 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2017-05-16 06:01 AM | Reply

As much as I loathe looking at this effing stupid bastards twitter account:

As President I wanted to share with Russia (at an openly scheduled W.H. meeting) which I have the absolute right to do, facts pertaining....

...to terrorism and airline flight safety. Humanitarian reasons, plus I want Russia to greatly step up their fight against ISIS & terrorism.

twitter.com

So they trotted McMaster out there yesterday with another BS cover story that unravels with president diarrhea mouth's next utterance. He did it. He's proud of it. He's just too stupid to know that he jeopardized the source in doing so.

#222 | Posted by leadbelly at 2017-05-16 07:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Trump Admits Passing Intel to Russia

www.thedailybeast.com

#223 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2017-05-16 08:13 AM | Reply

#110

Cassandra was right but mocked by idiots, idiot.

#224 | Posted by Zed at 2017-05-16 08:21 AM | Reply

All evening yesterday Trumpster fires like Afka were telling us that this was untrue. Fake news. Turns out President loose lips sunk their apologist ships.

#225 | Posted by klifferd at 2017-05-16 08:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

This isn't anything like Watergate.

Congress cared whether laws had been broken during Watergate..

#226 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-05-16 08:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

""I was in the room," H.R. McMaster says, responding to WaPo Russia report. "It didn't happen." cbsn.ws
6:10 PM - 15 May 2017 #175 | POSTED BY AFKABL2

Weren't you the guy claiming to know the difference between what Trump said, and the truth?

Your claim lasted almost as long as Trump's credibility.

#227 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-16 08:35 AM | Reply

twitter.com

Can you imagine working for this idiot?

You rush out to say "Naw, nossir, he didn't do that. He wouldn't do anything that stupid."

And then the idiot proudly holds up another failing homework assignment for the world to see and says "Yap, I sure did. F means FANTASTIC!"

#228 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-05-16 08:44 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

this is just more proof that even the word of people like McMaster is complete feces when talking about Trump's actions as President.

#229 | Posted by klifferd at 2017-05-16 09:01 AM | Reply

So much for McMaster's "Dereliction of Duty" reputation.

#230 | Posted by YAV at 2017-05-16 09:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!

twitter.com

It's too late. He's already bragging about how he did it.

And he was bragging about it over an hour BEFORE you tried to cover for his idiocy.

For christ's sake...

#231 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-05-16 09:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Given,

No source other than the ubiquitous "officials" is given, (maybe they were post office officials?). The supposed "key partner" is also not named.

Question: Since when do we even HAVE a key partner in the fight against ISIS, except maybe the Kurds or Iraq. The only, and I mean ONLY other player, with any clout at all, fighting against ISIS is RUSSIA! Heck the Russians have more assets on the ground fighting ISIS than WE DO!

Granted they are doing so in support of Assad, who we don't like so much, but, ISIS is Assad's enemy as well as ours. And is therefore Putin's enemy as well.

No source given. No named "key partner". Hmmmm. Can you say "Fake News"? The days of anonymous sourcing should be over and done folks. To much of the "Fake News" is built on what "anonymous officials" have said.

Besides Trump probably did not reveal anything to Lavrov that Lavrov had not already read in the emails on Sec. of State Clinton's unsecured email server. Remember those? The ones where congress has already released that 22 emails contained "Top Secret" information, with several others redacted to the point of readability because of top secret details contained therein?

I doubt there is a single "code word" or other state dept secret that was generated in the last 9 years that Putin and Lavrov have not already memorized. Damned things were hacked by at least five different foreign intel services. Given that, do we actually HAVE any secrets anymore?

#232 | Posted by AWinter at 2017-05-16 09:34 AM | Reply

"I said it was damaging, but not the "end of the world."

The question we should all be asking is: how damaging? And the answer is: potentially quite a bit. Why? Because these code name ops take months or even years to put into place. Now one of those ops, run by a Middle Eastern country, has been jeopardized. Even if you don't care, as you have indicated you don't, that the lives of some other country's spies are now in danger, Trump's actions have potentially put the lives of many people, including Americans, at risk. Not only may foreign intelligence services no longer relay information to the US while Trump is president, intelligence agencies may no longer have someone on the inside of this terrorist group's cell who will warn us, meaning the world, of future attacks.

If the reporting on all this is true, are there really people on this board, in the Republican party, in this country, who don't get why this is a dangerous development? Apparently Trump doesn't, and that's a very bad sign for all of us.

#233 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-16 09:37 AM | Reply

"Question: Since when do we even HAVE a key partner in the fight against ISIS, except maybe the Kurds or Iraq. The only, and I mean ONLY other player, with any clout at all, fighting against ISIS is RUSSIA! Heck the Russians have more assets on the ground fighting ISIS than WE DO!"

I've heard speculation that the country in question could be Israel or Jordon. If it is Israel, Mossad will not take kindly to Trump's blabbing, nor will they give a damn about his motivations. The info that was given to us was given on the condition it not be given to our allies, let alone the Russians.

#234 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-16 09:42 AM | Reply

"No source given. No named "key partner". Hmmmm. Can you say "Fake News"? The days of anonymous sourcing should be over and done folks. To much of the "Fake News" is built on what "anonymous officials" have said."

There is one WH official named in the article and another, a subordinate, who is not named but mentioned. It shouldn't be too hard for Congressional committees to call these people in, put them under oath, and get to the bottom of this:

"Senior White House officials appeared to recognize quickly that Trump had overstepped and moved to contain the potential fallout. Thomas P. Bossert, assistant to the president for homeland security and counterterrorism, placed calls to the directors of the CIA and the NSA, the services most directly involved in the intelligence-sharing arrangement with the partner.

One of Bossert's subordinates also called for the problematic portion of Trump's discussion to be stricken from internal memos and for the full transcript to be limited to a small circle of recipients, efforts to prevent sensitive details from being disseminated further or leaked."

#235 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-16 09:56 AM | Reply

"No source given. No named "key partner". Hmmmm. Can you say "Fake News"? The days of anonymous sourcing should be over and done folks. To much of the "Fake News" is built on what "anonymous officials" have said."

#235 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Trump Tweet: I did it. So what.
GAL_TUESDAY: Trump didn't do it.

You honestly can't make this stuff up.

#236 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-05-16 10:11 AM | Reply

No source given. No named "key partner". Hmmmm. Can you say "Fake News"? The days of anonymous sourcing should be over and done folks. To much of the "Fake News" is built on what "anonymous officials" have said.

#232 | POSTED BY AWINTER

Holy hell, how many paid posters are here parroting the exact same thing with the exact same language?

#237 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-05-16 10:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Trump Tweet: I did it. So what."

So, let's hear the tapes. Congress should ask for them. It's another quick way to get to the bottom of this.

#238 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-16 10:19 AM | Reply

Holy hell, how many paid posters are here parroting the exact same thing with the exact same language?

#237 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2017-05-16 10:15 AM | FLAG:

Not sure about paid, but at least conditioned to believe the false narrative 45 has been pounding into their heads since he began his campaign.

#239 | Posted by cbob at 2017-05-16 10:24 AM | Reply

Turns out Hillary's email server was more secure than Trumps mouth.

#240 | Posted by 726 at 2017-05-16 10:32 AM | Reply | Funny: 8

Only the dumbest right wingers even bother to defend trump at this point. See above.

#50 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2017-05-15 09:37 PM | FLAG:

It took W 8 years to reach this point.

Bravo Mr. Trump.

You are ahead of schedule.

#241 | Posted by 726 at 2017-05-16 10:46 AM | Reply

#217

Yeah Laura, I'm totally in the minority here. You need to listen to us more than we need to listen to you.

And Live or Die, thank you for trolling out the tired "Violent Ann Arbor" idiocy. Read a newspaper or something. You are a morAn.

#242 | Posted by bocaink at 2017-05-16 10:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The people making excuses for Trump are the people he was talking about when he said he could shoot someone on 5th avenue without losing voters

#243 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-05-16 10:50 AM | Reply

There is a floor to how low Trump's ratings can go.

That floor is where Fox News aims it's news towards. It's not hard to figure out.

#244 | Posted by eberly at 2017-05-16 10:56 AM | Reply

Yeah Laura, I'm totally in the minority here. You need to listen to us more than we need to listen to you.

Keep losing then That's totally upto You of course.

And Live or Die, thank you for trolling out the tired "Violent Ann Arbor" idiocy. Read a newspaper or something. You are a morAn.

#242 | Posted by bocaink at 2017-05-16 10:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

#245 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-05-16 10:58 AM | Reply

So, let's hear the tapes. Congress should ask for them. It's another quick way to get to the bottom of this.

#238 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

They already did. Well, the Democrats at least.

Should we wager on whether he will willingly turn them over?

#246 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-05-16 11:11 AM | Reply

"Should we wager on whether he will willingly turn them over?"

My bet is on the 12th.

Of Never.

#247 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-16 11:20 AM | Reply

No source given. No named "key partner". Hmmmm. Can you say "Fake News"? The days of anonymous sourcing should be over and done folks. To much of the "Fake News" is built on what "anonymous officials" have said.
#232 | POSTED BY AWINTER

The Russians and the Russian press were in the room. They could very well be the "leakers". Who knows? This White House has no idea what it is doing and has no idea how to deal with classified information.

Trump could kill someone with his ignorance (and very well just could have) and you numbnuts would still make excuses for him.

#248 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-05-16 11:22 AM | Reply

This incident is just one more illustration of Trump's unsuitability for the office of President.

Trump has defended his actions by acknowledging that he shared info and stating that as President he has the absolute right to do so.

Whether or not the latter claim is correct is open to debate, if he did indeed share information provided by an ally on the understanding that such information would not be shared with other countries without prior approval.

But the real issue is that it is clear that Trump failed to understand the complexity of the information he so blithely gave out. It is one thing to give out information relating to the practicalities of terror threats; it is another to unwittingly provide information that could unmask the source of information. Exposing the source without prior approval from the authority originating the information not only endangers the field operative ( who hopefully is now long gone ) but must impair the relationship between US and foreign intelligence agencies.

Trump has consistently ratcheted up the rhetoric about terrorist threats and his travel ban is up for judicial review, yet here he is ignorantly jeopardizing real world anti-terrorist operations for no other reason than to brag about how good his intelligence is, if the reports are to be believed.

Trump is unfit for purpose.

#249 | Posted by Foreigner at 2017-05-16 11:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#245

If I lose then you lose. If I win, you still don't lose.

I'll double down on this though. Of course we want to improve our case to the voters. I thought Obama had done that just fine for Hillary. But, you aren't going to be able to scream Benghazi in 2018 or 2020. I'll be able to scream 'Told yall so about Trump.' That message is going to resonate much deeper than screaming 'I took my ball and went home and let you have Trump.'

Again, I'm willing to double down that my rationale will win more elections than marginalizing the majority of mainstream Democrats who feel exactly like I do.

I'm not saying we can't disagree with me on this and we have to hold hands and be bff's. I'm saying you might as well jump on my wagon missy because it's the wagon that is in the race. If not, you are replaceable. You took your ball, you went home. Other people will want to play and they will bring lots of balls.

#250 | Posted by bocaink at 2017-05-16 11:32 AM | Reply

It's been true all along. Trump really is stupid. Not just average Joe stupid but clinically, mentally, morally, sucker, sellout, dropout and loser S-T-U-P-I-D ~ seriously dumb as a sack of rocks.
That's your leader, righties. You must be so proud to call him one of your own.

#220 | POSTED BY TWINPAC AT 2017-05-16 05:14 AM | FLAG: | NEWSWORTHY 1

The media outlets like the Washington Post come up with this crap because they know really stupid bordering on mentally ill sack of rocks idiots will buy it. And they are right.

#251 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-05-16 11:37 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trump Admits Passing Intel to Russia
www.thedailybeast.com

#223 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER AT 2017-05-16 08:13 AM | FLAG:

I like how the story says he admits to passing highly confidential info when in his own words he doesn't even come close. You stooges that suck this up have got to get a life.

#252 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-05-16 11:39 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"The media outlets like the Washington Post come up with this crap"

Riiiiiight.

So did you believe McMaster, or did you believe Trump?

#253 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-16 11:41 AM | Reply

Both over another anonymous source that leaked to the Washington Post which if found would be thrown in prison. And the Washington post should be held accountable if any American lives are lost because of their story. It is disgusting how low they will go and disgusting that people like you lap it up which motivates them even further.

#254 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-05-16 11:56 AM | Reply

News outlets: "President Dump leaked intel to the Russians."

Dump Humpers: "Fake News!"

Donnie Dump: "I leaked intel to the Russians."

Dump Humpers: "Still Fake News!"

#255 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-05-16 11:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What is it exactly that Putin wants with TRump and the USA? Does he wish to divide the European Union so that he can invade the Baltic states, Poland and finish off the Ukraine while TRump kisses his ass and European countries are unable to defend these states. You know a never improved version of the Soviet Union which I am really sure Vlad misses a lot. Or, does he really seek a USA-Russian alliance against the Chinese as we all know how fast China is growing and reaching out into the Sea of China and westward toward Europe and through Russia?

#256 | Posted by tknees at 2017-05-16 12:09 PM | Reply

"Both over another anonymous source that leaked to the Washington Post which if found would be thrown in prison." - #254 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-05-16 11:56 AM

Trump: I Shared Classified Intel with Russians
Oops.

#257 | Posted by Hans at 2017-05-16 12:10 PM | Reply

"The media outlets like the Washington Post come up with this crap ..." - #251 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-05-16 11:37 AM

Trump: I Shared Classified Intel with Russians
Oops, again.

#258 | Posted by Hans at 2017-05-16 12:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#258 "As President I wanted to share with Russia (at an openly scheduled W.H. meeting) which I have the absolute right to do, facts pertaining to terrorism and airline flight safety," Trump said on
Where does it say classified information? "Facts pertaining to terrorism" is now code for classified? You morons are the reason this crap gets written.

Ooops Moron.

#259 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-05-16 12:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"The Washington post should be held accountable if any American lives are lost because of their story."

So the problem isn't that Trump revealed highly classified secrets, it's that you found out about it?

The Party of Responsibility strikes again.

#260 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-16 12:14 PM | Reply

#254 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

"I'm okay with Trump leaking this information to the Russians and getting our sources killed, but the media is awful for telling us about it!"

-Fishpaw

#261 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-05-16 12:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Where does it say classified information?" - #259 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-05-16 12:14 PM

What part of highly classified ['code-word'] information don't you understand, moron?

Oops.

Like ☠ der Drumpfenführer, you just don't know when you should just STFU.

#262 | Posted by Hans at 2017-05-16 12:20 PM | Reply

#13 | POSTED BY MYSTERYTOY
#94 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS
#232 | POSTED BY AWINTER
#235 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Now that Trump admitted he did it, you owe an apology to the media.

#263 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-05-16 12:21 PM | Reply

"And the Washington post should be held accountable if any American lives are lost because of their story. It is disgusting how low they will go and disgusting that people like you lap it up which motivates them even further."

WP didn't reveal any information that could be used to identify the source, Trump did though.

#264 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-16 12:23 PM | Reply

I believed Trump would be a celebrity-status buffoon and figured that would be revealed when we got to matter of national security and communication with countries like Russia......but I didn't believe he would do things like this.

Maybe presidents have done things like this before because they were advised to do so and for good reasons. Maybe there was a bigger picture of national security the "experts" were focused on, etc...

but just blabbing to the press what he does in this manner is just friggin retarded.....and it makes him look worse than he did already.

#265 | Posted by eberly at 2017-05-16 12:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" Apparently you don't want to learn about the reasons for Hillary losing." - #216 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-05-16 04:52 AM

Hillary Clinton was a horrible candidate who still received 3,000,000 more votes than Trump.

Now, can you finally STFU about Secretary Clinton?

#266 | Posted by Hans at 2017-05-16 12:29 PM | Reply

".....but I didn't believe he would do things like this. ... but just blabbing to the press what he does in this manner is just friggin retarded.....and it makes him look worse than he did already." - #265 | Posted by eberly at 2017-05-16 12:26 PM

Yet it is entirely believable.

He's like the kid who was told a secret in confidence yet can't help spreading it around because he thinks it makes him look "cool" knowing it.

Trump is just like that kid.

#267 | Posted by Hans at 2017-05-16 12:32 PM | Reply

#13 | POSTED BY MYSTERYTOY
#94 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS
#232 | POSTED BY AWINTER
#235 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Now that Trump admitted he did it, you owe an apology to the media.

I don't owe the media an apology. I assume you are objecting to the first part of my post, which was a quote from AWinter.

#268 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-16 12:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

PS I heard about Trump's tweets this morning on Morning Joe, which was before I posted today.

#269 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-16 12:38 PM | Reply

Hillary Clinton was a horrible candidate who still received 3,000,000 more votes than Trump.

Now, can you finally STFU about Secretary Clinton?

#266 | Posted by Hans

To the R's states matter (electoral college), not people. If you add all the votes that went to other candidates 9,000,000 more people voted for not-Trump than voted for Trump.

#270 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2017-05-16 01:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As I take my own advice and move back into the world of academia which requires hours of daily

research, study and practice in order to study, prepare and teach.....

AND before that hiatus begins........IT"S A PLEASURE to point out that this headline placed with this

article.....is a god damn lie...which makes you.......

Trump: I Shared Classified Intel with Russians

Oops, again.

#258 | Posted by Hans at 2017-05-16 12:13

#271 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2017-05-16 01:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#94 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS
"you'd think you might see a pattern."

By now, we thought you'd see a pattern.

#272 | Posted by TheTom at 2017-05-16 02:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And yet here you are. Posting in this thread. Braying like a jackass.
#215 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2017-05-16 04:20 AM | REPLY | NEWSWORTHY 1

Someone has to point out the emperor has no clothes.

Let me make it more explicit: this Russia business? It is birtherism. It is the Benghazi conspiracy theories. It is the same crackpot idiocy as you've criticized for years on the other side.

#273 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-05-16 02:50 PM | Reply

#273

Dirk. Why are you still digging?

If you believe this is such a nonissue. Ignore it.

There are dozens of threads on this site. Go partake in those.

As for this thread. You're truly a dummy if you think it's the same as Birtherism.

"Additionally, Erickson's source claims that "what the President did is actually far worse than what is being reported" and that "the president does not seem to realize or appreciate that his bragging can undermine relationships with our allies and with human intelligence sources."
www.rawstory.com
#90 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY AT 2017-05-16 02:24 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

While this may not be an end all event. (And I never claimed it was)

This is actually something.

Where as Birtherism was a racist movement started by morons and carried out for years by Donnie Dump himself.

#274 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-05-16 03:01 PM | Reply

"Dirk. Why are you still digging?"

Why are you? You've been at this for months with nothing to show for it.

"If you believe this is such a nonissue. Ignore it."

It is a nonissue. The self destruction of the American left by way of these absurdities, on the other hand is not.

"While this may not be an end all event. (And I never claimed it was)
This is actually something.
Where as Birtherism was a racist movement started by morons and carried out for years by Donnie Dump himself."

Birtherism had "sources" and "experts" too. So, what? Your anonymous source is better than some rightist's?

#275 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-05-16 03:10 PM | Reply

#268 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

You are correct. I didn't see you were quoting someone. I apologize.

#276 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-05-16 03:25 PM | Reply

Why are you? You've been at this for months with nothing to show for it.

Months? What are you talking about?

This isn't "Russia hacked the election for Donnie."

This is, "Donnie divulged classified information he wasn't supposed to. Which puts our intelligence community at risk."

It is a nonissue.

What's a nonissue? You don't seem to know what the hell this thread is about.

Birtherism had "sources" and "experts" too. So, what?

No it didn't. It only had raving racists. I find it amusing you're using that as your comparison.

Your anonymous source is better than some rightist's?

You're truly clueless. Donnie admitted sharing classified intelligence with the Russians.

But please. Continue exposing your ignorance.

#277 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-05-16 03:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

"Months? What are you talking about?
This isn't "Russia hacked the election for Donnie."
This is, "Donnie divulged classified information he wasn't supposed to. Which puts our intelligence community at risk.""

It is cute that you pretend they are not the same. The only reason this story took off is that it advances the "Trump as Russian stooge" narrative.

"No it didn't. It only had raving racists. I find it amusing you're using that as your comparison."

And you have what? Anonymous sources.

"You're truly clueless. Donnie admitted sharing classified intelligence with the Russians."

That is about all he admitted. Speculation as to the nature of the intel and the possible consequences? All from anonymous sources.

#278 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-05-16 04:04 PM | Reply

CNN "Did H.R. McMaster just make Donald Trump's Russia problems worse?"

National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster faced the press Tuesday afternoon in hopes of quieting the storm caused by a Washington Post report that the president had shared classified information with two top Russian officials during a visit to the Oval Office last week.

He might have made things worse.

Asked a direct question as to whether Trump discussed classified information with the Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kisylak, McMaster dodged.

"We don't say what's classified and what's not classified," he said. "What the president shared was wholly appropriate."

McMaster continued his defense of Trump. "I should just make the statement here that the president wasn't even aware of where the information came from," he said. "He wasn't briefed on the source or method of the information either."

Er, what?

The defense of Trump is that he didn't really know the source of the report and, therefore, couldn't have possibly told the Russians more than he should? The opposite end of that defense is this: Trump was talking to two top officials of an adversarial power about highly protected information without having been briefed fully on that information.

But McMaster's explanation of what Trump knew and what he said neither disputes the Post and CNN reporting nor makes it totally obvious that Trump knew what he was talking about with Lavrov and Kisylak.

In short: McMaster's attempt to put this fire out managed to only spray more lighter fluid on it.

excerpts

www.cnn.com

#279 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-16 04:13 PM | Reply

Dirk, sometimes you are reasonable. Today is not that day.

#280 | Posted by cbob at 2017-05-16 05:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

It is cute that you pretend they are not the same.

They're not the same. One was "Russia aided Donnie in the general election".

Whereas this is "Donnie blabbed about classified information which he shouldn't have."

The only reason this story took off is that it advances the "Trump as Russian stooge" narrative.

Actually. This stared when the Russian media published photos of their guys meeting with Donnie in the White House.

It continued when information was leaked about Donnie divulging classified intelligence to them.

Then. Despite his handlers best excuses. Donnie stepped up the stupid by admitting he did reveal classified intelligence and couldn't understand why it was an issue.

And you have what? Anonymous sources.

Actually. We got Donnie Dump's own admission.

What do you have? More nothing?

#281 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-05-16 05:22 PM | Reply

#278 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN

You really have no clue what is going on, do you?

#282 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-05-16 05:28 PM | Reply

"We got Donnie Dump's own admission."

One wholly lacking in specifics. Hence the rampant speculation.

#283 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-05-16 05:32 PM | Reply

You really have no clue what is going on, do you?

#282 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2017-05-16 05:28 PM | FLAG:

So tell me. What specifically was divulged and why should anyone care even a little?

Honestly, this is the Clinton emails all over again. Cue months of handwringing over how bad it might be or might have been.

#284 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-05-16 05:34 PM | Reply

Dirk, sometimes you are reasonable. Today is not that day.

#280 | POSTED BY CBOB AT 2017-05-16 05:05 PM | FLAG: | NEWSWORTHY 1

You'd prefer I race to make mountains of mole hills, I suppose.

#285 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-05-16 05:37 PM | Reply

- What specifically was divulged and why should anyone care even a little?

"It was during that meeting, officials said, that Trump went off script and began describing details of an Islamic State terrorist threat related to the use of laptop computers on aircraft," the Post report states, adding that Trump also revealed the ISIS-held city where the source gleaned the intelligence, which was considered "code-word information," one of the highest classification levels.

According to the Post, following Trump's meeting with the Russian delegation, senior White House officials "took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and the National Security Agency."

www.drudge.com

Then there is this Breaking News...

www.drudge.com

#286 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-16 05:46 PM | Reply

One wholly lacking in specifics. Hence the rampant speculation.
#283 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN AT 2017-05-16 05:32 PM | FLAG:

Wow your ignorance is making you stubborn. Probably why you're such a devote Christian.

Once again. From post #274, quoting Gal's link.

"the president does not seem to realize or appreciate that his bragging can undermine relationships with our allies and with human intelligence sources."

There's no rampant speculation.

Donnie blathered classified information. Either because he's too stupid to know better or because he doesn't care.

Furthermore. (And I'm not an expert in this subject. But.) His actions may be a violation of national security.

This is what people who get paid way more than I do are investigating.

#287 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-05-16 05:55 PM | Reply

Dirk.

Let's bury the hatchet.

You didn't fully comprehend what was happening and don't want Americans distracted with wild goose chases while Donnie and company are actively destroying America.

I agree.

But. This may pan out to be more damaging to Donnie than the election scandal allegations.

Eitherway. We'll see how it plays out.

#288 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-05-16 06:10 PM | Reply

So tell me. What specifically was divulged and why should anyone care even a little?
Honestly, this is the Clinton emails all over again. Cue months of handwringing over how bad it might be or might have been.

#284 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN

Here you go: Why this is huge
www.cnn.com

This is probably the biggest misstep by a president in 100 years.

#289 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-05-16 06:19 PM | Reply

Coming in late, but I don't think any president can reveal classified information, since they're the senior source of classification. If A president wanted to go in and reveal every special access program ran by the government, they're legal to do so. If I remember correctly.

#290 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-05-16 08:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#290

Sometimes never is better that late.

Especially in your case.

Do yourself a favor and skim through the thread.

Your tired talking points have already been debunked.

#291 | Posted by ClownShack at 2017-05-16 08:37 PM | Reply

Dunno Clown, it's a pretty long thread. And I'm guessing that out of everyone here I probably have a better grasp on how the classification process works than most. But if you're willing to take a moment out of what I am sure is a very hectic and busy day to point me towards the posts you referenced, I'd be happy to take a gander.

I only brought it up because I asked this question of an actual intel officer a few weeks back. I was just parroting him. Maybe your people are smarter though.

#292 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-05-16 09:06 PM | Reply

"He/she stood firmly with Donald Trump when he carelessly put our intelligence assets at risk by giving sensitive and classified information to the Russians."

-- the opening line in every Democratic attack ad in the 2018 election

#293 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-05-17 04:59 AM | Reply

Trump is going to shut this down by having the CIA provide Putin with the same daily briefing he gets in the Oval Office.

#294 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-05-17 12:42 PM | Reply

#294

The difference is that Putin would actually read the briefings, lol.

#295 | Posted by Corky at 2017-05-17 01:11 PM | Reply

You're not? Really?
Try.
Is it a good move, or a bad move?
Because to this point, merely bringing it up makes you sound like a partisan apologist.
#38 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

We don't know if its a good move or bad move, we don't know the context. Do you have the transcripts of the conversation? You have no evidence of what was talked about other than some anon source. We don't know the broad context upon which the intelligence was given.

Its within the right of the POTUS to horse trade intelligence for whatever he deems in the best interest of the country. Even if as EtAl points out, its not ours.

Certainly disagreement is good. But WaPo with the release of this information has created a worse situation than POTUS himself, its his deal to make in a way he sees fit, that the privileged we should give the President.

The partisan apologist are those here that defended Clinton and Obama yet consider the POTUS actions to be treason.

All I am saying is if Obama had done the same (which he might have but not reported) I would defend his right to do it. Unlike the partisans here, and yourself included would defend Obama doing it.

This situation really brings out the hypocrisy of the left.

May 2014: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan
www.washingtonpost.com

June 2016: U.S. Offers to share Syrian intelligence on terrorist with Russia
www.washingtonpost.com

#296 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2017-05-17 01:27 PM | Reply

"Do you have the transcripts of the conversation? "

Of course not; neither do you. But I'm aware the NSA and the CIA had to scramble after (whatever you're pretending didn't happen) to clean up Trump's mess. Are you aware?

"This situation really brings out the hypocrisy of the left."
May 2014: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

So you can't tell the difference between "mistakenly" and "cluelessly"? Between accidentally, and on purpose?

#297 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-17 01:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"All I am saying is if Obama had done the same I would defend his right to do it." - #296 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2017-05-17 01:27 PM

Considering you never defended anything Obama ever did this comment of yours stretches the truth to the breaking point.

"(which he might have but not reported)"

This is in the same category as "People say..." No proof is ever offered, but the accusation/doubt is planted. See also: Strawman fallacy.

#298 | Posted by Hans at 2017-05-17 01:38 PM | Reply

"All I am saying is if Obama had done the same I would defend his right to do it." - #296 | Posted by AndreaMackris

This is the funniest thing EVER said on here. I swear I nearly fell out of my chair laughing.

#299 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-05-17 05:05 PM | Reply

Comments are closed for this entry.

Home | Breaking News | Comments | User Blogs | Stats | Back Page | RSS Feed | RSS Spec | DMCA Compliance | Privacy | Copyright 2017 World Readable

Drudge Retort