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Sunday, May 14, 2017

Poliico: House Republicans just voted to slash hundreds of billions of dollars in health care for the poor as part of their Obamacare replacement. Now, they're weighing a plan to take the scalpel to programs that provide meals to needy kids and housing and education assistance for low-income families. President Donald Trump's refusal to overhaul Social Security and Medicare -- and his pricey wish-list for infrastructure, a border wall and tax cuts -- is sending House budget writers scouring for pennies in politically sensitive places: safety-net programs for the most vulnerable.

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Satanic covers it.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2017-05-14 09:03 PM | Reply

So the GOP is even looking to cut veterans benefits.

I take no pleasure in saying I told you so.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2017-05-14 09:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trumptilians-Taking food from starving children to give tax cuts for billionaires.

#3 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-14 09:28 PM | Reply

Calvinists. It is ingrained into who they are and it is --------.

#4 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-14 09:46 PM | Reply

#4

Abraxas, not Calvin.

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2017-05-14 09:47 PM | Reply

In Trump world, there are winners and losers. The biggest losers will be those who are already the most disenfranchised, and the biggest winners will be those who already have the most. Prosperity Christianity, folks. To those who have much, more is given. To those who have less, more will be taken away:

The real difference is that Trumponomics (unlike, say, Reaganomics) is not an economic doctrine at all. It is best seen as a set of proposals put together by businessmen courtiers for their king. Mr Trump has listened to scores of executives, but there are barely any economists in the White House. His approach to the economy is born of a mindset where deals have winners and losers and where canny negotiators confound abstract principles. Call it boardroom capitalism.

That Trumponomics is a business wishlist helps explain why critics on the left have laid into its poor distributional consequences, fiscal indiscipline and potential cronyism. And it makes clear why businessmen and investors have been enthusiastic, seeing it as a shot in the arm for those who take risks and seek profits. Stockmarkets are close to record highs and indices of business confidence have soared.

www.economist.com

#6 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-14 09:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Oral Roberts began teaching prosperity theology in 1947.[16] He explained the laws of faith as a "blessing pact" in which God would return donations "seven fold""

Pretty good investment. Donations ceased being gifts to the church but became investments.

#7 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-14 10:03 PM | Reply

"Oral Roberts began teaching prosperity theology in 1947.[16] He explained the laws of faith as a "blessing pact" in which God would return donations "seven fold""

Pretty good investment. Donations ceased being gifts to the church but became investments.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-14 10:03 PM | Reply

Of course they do.

Government isn't meant to actually be for the people, just the people who are rich enough to gain access.

In any case, it doesn't surprise me that the GOP scum would fund increased military spending and tax cuts on the backs of those who benefit from it least. It's all about having and the takers are doing exactly what I expected them to do.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2017-05-14 10:42 PM | Reply

We're $20 trillion in debt and growing by a trillion dollars a year. You can cut defense to zero and the deficits will be still bigger than Bush's last year, which was bad enough.

Can't touch so-called "entitlements", everyone seems to agree. So what does that leave?

Fortunately the Federal government isn't the only one around. States and city governments can increase their spending and taxing to bridge the difference.

#10 | Posted by WhiteDevil at 2017-05-15 12:16 AM | Reply

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Bunch of filthy disgusting satanic pigs.

Go to hell repubs

#11 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2017-05-15 01:52 AM | Reply

You can cut defense to zero and the deficits will be still bigger than Bush's last year, which was bad enough.

#10 | POSTED BY WHITEDEVIL AT 2017-05-15 12:16 AM | FLAG: --------

#12 | Posted by bocaink at 2017-05-15 08:06 AM | Reply

I'll even do the research for you Devil

www.usgovernmentdebt.us

en.wikipedia.org

Learn and gain perspective and stop trying to throw out lies and hoping they stick.

#13 | Posted by bocaink at 2017-05-15 08:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Learn and gain perspective and stop trying to throw out lies and hoping they stick.

#13 | POSTED BY BOCAINK

Stop assuming Republicans can read or are at least are willing to. If that were the case, there wouldn't be any Republicans.

#14 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-05-15 01:29 PM | Reply

Republicans wanting ever more aids to programs that help the poor really translates to the following: If you are poor and live in a Red State you will remain just as poor and hated as always have been. If you are poor and living a blue State, the State government will continue trying to do whatever it can to ease the situation.

#15 | Posted by moder8 at 2017-05-15 01:32 PM | Reply

Its about time the waste in these programs were cut. We should not be paying for candy and soft drinks only real food.

Why should we have 2 separate food programs on for the poor and another for the schools when they schools could just charge the parents EBT cards? It would save billions. The people that are on these programs need to be re vetted. Why should we buy your food so you can take your money and waste it in a bar or on an expensive car or boat? Why does expanded medicare allow you to have $100,000 in the bank? (actually it has no limits on what your allowed to have in the bank)

#16 | Posted by tmaster at 2017-05-15 02:27 PM | Reply

"they schools could just charge the parents EBT cards? It would save billions."

How?

Show your math.

#17 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-15 02:30 PM | Reply

That leaves taxing people at reasonable rates and using the money wisely. Nobody has any valid complaint about being overtaxed. If we just taxed at Reaganomics rates we would be able to adequately fund the government without running deficits.

Our national debt is not the result of too much spending. It is the result of intentional policies by the GOP. They cut revenue and use the resultant shortfall as a rationale to cut only those programs they dont agree with while simultaneously raising spending on other programs and leaving us with an even bigger deficit

#18 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-05-15 02:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Why does expanded medicare allow you to have $100,000 in the bank?"

For the same reason you're only taxed on this year's income.

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-15 02:31 PM | Reply

So what does that leave?

Why do you care? You don't even live here. Suddenly deficits matter again?

It is not the fault of the poor that America is running a deficit. And they should not carry the burden of it.

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-05-15 02:47 PM | Reply

"So what does that leave?"

Should have been in quotes.

#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-05-15 02:48 PM | Reply

Words mean something, and many times it is the definition that maters most. "Poor" is relative. Remember I had the privilege of having to live is some of the poorest countries on the planet. We do not see the grinding poverty I have seen in Africa, Haiti, Central America, the Middle East, Etc. Bodies do not pile up on street corners. The state being the absolute arbitrator of what is required by all is the key to slavery. Ref:(The Road to Tyranny, Hyack). The real tyrant always promises a solution to suffering and injustice, revolution and renewal.(The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich W L. Shirer). And the Germans are not alone, same things happened in Russia, China and a host of other countries, power became centralized, and descent was crushed. (A Peoples Tragedy,O Figes).
Actually I am optimistic. Two things I have noted over the years is first, Americans do not like to be told what to do. Secondly, they do not like to pay taxes. We have just emerged from a ten year bout of extreme -------- spending. Like it or not, eight years were under Obama. What worse we have little to show for it. The "recovery" was anemic at best.
We could run our military a lot cheaper and withdraw from countries that can afford to defend themselves. If we reduced our defense spending by half, we would spend more than three time what the next seven nations spend on arms. But that would probity require a draft. Recruiting willing volunteers is expensive.
We could make basic medical care and services available on demand, but we should expect to pay about 15 to 20% of our net to pay for it. Then who decides who gets more than basic medical? Who get the transplants? The chemo treatments?
We could provide housing for everyone, but how? The enormous urban projects of the 50s turned into war zones during the 70s and 80s. The "projects" in almost all communities is a center of criminal activity, just like the slums they replaced.
It is easy to say that Trump has horns, a tail and eats baby sandwiches, but that does not accomplish a damn thing. Best to look to those close to you, rather than some promises made far away. The first place to look for a helping hand is at the end of your own arm.
Bills eventually come due, and we have a 20 trillion dollar debt, which cost us about a trillion dollars a year to service. Or about a half of what we collect in taxes. Something will change or it will come crashing down around our and our children's ears.
Change is always painful.

#22 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-05-15 02:57 PM | Reply

Well, somebody has to help us crawl up over the backs of the people.
~ Kleptocrats Everywhere

#23 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2017-05-15 03:31 PM | Reply

The power of poverty can be illustrated in most fish markets. Look at a basket of crabs. They can craw out of the basket they are in alone. But as soon as they get close to the lip of the basket, the other crabs pull them back in. It takes a little more than welfare to escape a mindset.

#24 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-05-15 03:51 PM | Reply

The power of poverty can be illustrated in most fish markets. Look at a basket of crabs. They can craw out of the basket they are in alone. But as soon as they get close to the lip of the basket, the other crabs pull them back in. It takes a little more than welfare to escape a mindset.

#24 | Posted by docnjo

Yeah it's just a MINDSET that made them be born into a broke single parent household.

Just a MINDSET that makes cops shoot them if they look scary.

Just a MINDSET that locks them up for doing the same drugs white kids get away with.

Denying systemic racism is racist. Don't be racist, and then you wont have to get so mad when people complain about racism.

#25 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-05-15 04:02 PM | Reply

Fortunately the Federal government isn't the only one around. States and city governments can increase their spending and taxing to bridge the difference.

#10 | Posted by WhiteDevil

Haha and who do you think republican states are going to raise taxes on to balance their books?

You. Not the people who can easily afford it.

#26 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-05-15 04:04 PM | Reply

A broke single parent household receives financial aid.
Cops shooting people illegally should be in jail. If the laws don't help the people, ask the people's representatives to make a change. So far, both sides of the aisle have held the Legislative Branch to make a difference.
Locking people up for committing crimes is what is supposed to happen. Don't commit crimes, you don't go to jail.
Why do white kids get away with it? See Legislative changes and the parties that have had control.

Racism didn't make you pregnant or force you to commit crimes.
If your lot in life sucks, what have you done to make it different?

The National Debt will become unsustainable. It's a matter of how much debt is needed to cause collapse.
Then there will be no handouts, except soap lines.

#27 | Posted by Petrous at 2017-05-15 04:20 PM | Reply

#25 | Posted by SpeakSoftly, Typical knee jerk liberal response. News for you, most poor people in the country are white, not black. Racism does not account for black on black crime. Racism does not account for the destruction of the black family. Racism does not account for the failure of black schools. Black culture and government (liberal) programs do. How can you tell women that if they kick out the man of the house they will get much more money and not cause a delinquency problem among young men. Maybe the soft bigotry of low expectations are more your forte. Maybe we should have separate standards of performance for black students. That is all crap, I've taught black soldiers for decades, and they have more than enough intelligence to hack it. Racism does not cause young women to have babies without a committed man, bad judgement and sex does that. The truth about the police in black neighborhoods, they are less likely to shoot a black man than a white man. But continue living in your rose colored world, inconvenient truth does no invade there.

#28 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-05-15 04:41 PM | Reply

Rcead, When did the word DEFICIT become provocative? In post 22 you scrubbed that one word. One of two hundred, were you trying to imply that I lacked the education, imagination or the ability to express myself without resorting to crass language. The double standard of the regressive left is legion.

#29 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-05-15 06:02 PM | Reply

#25 | Posted by SpeakSoftly, Typical knee jerk liberal response. News for you, most poor people in the country are white, not black. Racism does not account for black on black crime. Racism does not account for the destruction of the black family. Racism does not account for the failure of black schools. Black culture and government (liberal) programs do. How can you tell women that if they kick out the man of the house they will get much more money and not cause a delinquency problem among young men. Maybe the soft bigotry of low expectations are more your forte. Maybe we should have separate standards of performance for black students. That is all crap, I've taught black soldiers for decades, and they have more than enough intelligence to hack it. Racism does not cause young women to have babies without a committed man, bad judgement and sex does that. The truth about the police in black neighborhoods, they are less likely to shoot a black man than a white man. But continue living in your rose colored world, inconvenient truth does no invade there.

#28 | Posted by docnjo

Racism absolutely accounts for black on black crime, when racism has made the black economy extremely hard to thrive in. All those things you blame on blacks are the natural result of whites harming black communities for hundreds of years.
Take away a man's means to better his life and he becomes desperate and criminal before long.

Blaming the poor for their poverty is just another way you've been brainwashed by penny pinching billionaires to act as their guard dogs instead of looking out for your own best interests.

#30 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-05-15 06:31 PM | Reply

You invest in private prison companies.
You profit from crime.
You don't get to talk about a double standard.

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-05-15 06:31 PM | Reply

(that was for DocNJO)

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-05-15 06:32 PM | Reply

Being a Republican means loving welfare for the rich and treating the middle and working classes like suckers and absolutely loathing the poor and especially their kids.

#33 | Posted by Sully at 2017-05-16 10:00 AM | Reply

#30 | Posted by SpeakSoftly, You do realize that I raised four kids on a Sargent's pay. Hell, I was eligible for food stamps till 1999. Being broke is a reality, but poverty is a mindset. Poverty does not cause a man to become a criminal, that is the chose of the individual. Fact is a vast majority of young black men do not engage in crime, like my son. But continue to make lame excuses for those who do. Those who suffer most from their behavior are the very black people you ineptly defend.

#34 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-05-16 12:32 PM | Reply

"Racism does not account for black on black crime. Racism does not account for the destruction of the black family. Racism does not account for the failure of black schools."

Maybe it would be simpler for you to tell us what racism does account for.

But you don't even believe institutional racism exists in America today, do you?

Even as you invest in the private prisons which earn a profit via the racist War on Drugs.

Seriously, are you blind? Or just don't care?

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-05-16 04:46 PM | Reply

There should not be 35+ comments on this thread. All that should have been required was "Well, DUH!"

#36 | Posted by Reagan58 at 2017-05-16 05:06 PM | Reply

#30 | Posted by SpeakSoftly, You do realize that I raised four kids on a Sargent's pay.

#34 | Posted by docnjo

Then you're a gullible moron for voting for trump. He doesn't give a damn about you, and your life in will be worse in many ways when his term is over.

Your sucker status aside, the other republican weakness is empathy. YOU didn't experience certain hardships, therefore you don't believe those hardships are real.

Try growing up with a mother who doesn't teach you to read because she was undereducated, with a father who is in jail, and cops that harass you nonstop, schools that suck, and a community with little opportunity to advance.
THEN tell me how circumstances don't effect outcomes.

#37 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-05-16 05:21 PM | Reply

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