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Thursday, April 20, 2017

Federal agents ignored President Trump's pledge to protect from deportation undocumented immigrants brought to the United States as children by sending a young man back to his native Mexico, the first such documented case, a USA Today examination of the new administration's immigration policies shows. ... [O]n Feb. 17, Juan Manuel Montes, 23, who has lived in the U.S. since age 9, grabbed a bite and was waiting for a ride when a U.S. Customs and Border Protection officer approached and started asking questions. Montes was twice granted deportation protections under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program created by President Barack Obama and left intact by President Trump. Montes had left his wallet in a friend's car, so he couldn't produce his ID or proof of his DACA status and was told by agents he couldn't retrieve them.

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Court records show he has four convictions: one for shoplifting in January 2016, and three for driving without a license, most recently three months ago.

Those convictions are not serious enough to disqualify him from DACA protections, according to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, the federal agency that approves DACA applications.

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Any running total on how many that are married/related to Trumpers have been deported to their utter amazement?

#1 | Posted by 726 at 2017-04-19 08:55 AM | Reply

The more we hope for change the more stagnant policy becomes. Obama deported more than 2.5 million undocumented people by 2015.

#2 | Posted by nutcase at 2017-04-19 09:09 AM | Reply

"Once deported, he attempted to illegally cross the border. He saw some people using a rope to climb over a section of the border wall and joined them. He was quickly captured by federal agents, questioned again and deported again."

Build that wall and there will be 1,000 ropes, there will be 1,000 boats. Build that wall instead of rebuilding infrastructure....just more brilliance from the right. Just to remind you, the right has been proven wrong on every argument they have ever made since the beginning of this nation. Think about that.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2017-04-19 11:17 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

... and here is the other side of this story: Deported DREAMer Update: Would It Shock You To Find The Story Is #FakeNews?
www.redstate.com

#4 | Posted by MSgt at 2017-04-19 11:42 AM | Reply

Nice update, I appreciate it. The original article I linked did mention the returned illegal entry & theft conviction, but didn't state that DACA was discretionary after that conviction. The original article includes "Montes' attorneys provided a copy of his work authorization card that showed his DACA status was valid through 2018." that doesn't show up in Redstate's, but both agree that DHS has no record of his renewal from 2015.

I'm not entirely certain that the sum of the difference, that DACA was discretionary post conviction, really equates to making USA Today's article 'fake news'.

#5 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-04-19 12:06 PM | Reply

real bad hombre.

so, has the kid been here since he was 9 or not?
of course he tried to get back home.

#6 | Posted by ichiro at 2017-04-19 03:51 PM | Reply

6 - Why not try as hard not to get kicked out of your sanctuary country?

#7 | Posted by homerj at 2017-04-19 04:24 PM | Reply

he's been since 9yo and you're going to keep kick him out?

#8 | Posted by ichiro at 2017-04-20 01:23 AM | Reply

he's been since 9yo and you're going to keep kick him out?

#9 | Posted by ichiro at 2017-04-20 01:24 AM | Reply

Does the illegal parent bringing him here bear any responsibility?

I notice you liberals never mention them.

#10 | Posted by boaz at 2017-04-20 08:13 AM | Reply

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"Does the illegal parent bringing him here bear any responsibility?"

OK, blame them, now does that make you feel better about deporting someone to a country he left when he was 9 years old?

#11 | Posted by danni at 2017-04-20 09:26 AM | Reply

Jesus would want him kicked out.

#12 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2017-04-20 09:26 AM | Reply

We are being terrorized by gangs of illegals putting on roofs, hanging drywall, mowing lawns, and waiting tables while our elected representatives don't have the courage to go against their owners and prosecute the employers.

It is easy to spot the ones from south of the border but not the Irish Nannies and other Europeans. How many of Trump's resort staff with special visas will just stay on after their visas expire?

#13 | Posted by TenMile at 2017-04-20 10:30 AM | Reply

If you want every employer in the US to use E-VERIFY, congratulations, you have found common ground with the Trump administration.

#14 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-04-20 10:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Does the illegal parent bringing him here bear any responsibility?
I notice you liberals never mention them.

#10 | POSTED BY BOAZ

For good reason. They don't blame the child for the sin of the parents.

Maybe we should try the North Korean way of executing the kids for crimes of their parents? You'd like that, right?

#15 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-04-20 10:43 AM | Reply

now does that make you feel better about deporting someone to a country he left when he was 9 years old?

Ok, we blame them, what are their consequences? Which you didn't name either. Maybe if parents knew they would be blamed they might not bring their kids in illegally with them.

They don't blame the child for the sin of the parents.

Ok, but we do need to blame the parents. Just because their kid gets sent back isn't the fault of the United States.

who has lived in the U.S. since age 9

And in all that time, the parent screwing up this childs life never thought to try and get the child naturalized and legal?

#16 | Posted by boaz at 2017-04-20 12:17 PM | Reply

There is no process to do that. Any attempt to create such a process would be called amnesty and destroyed by the right

#17 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-04-20 12:41 PM | Reply

Any attempt to create such a process would be called amnesty and destroyed by the right

I don't know if I agree with that...

At least then we would know who was in the country and the kids wouldn't pay a price of having to go back to their parents crappy country of birth.

#18 | Posted by boaz at 2017-04-20 01:13 PM | Reply

There is no process to do that. - #17 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-04-20 12:41 PM
This is precisely
untrue. It would involve a Mexican citizens returning to their home country, and applying for US citizenship. Just because you don't approve of people immigrating legally, doesn't mean there isn't a process to do so.

#19 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-04-20 01:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In college I was friends with someone whose family overstayed their visitor visas while visiting family in the US, the whole family eventually became naturalized citizens. It may have helped in the process that the parents were STEM-professionals, but those four are at least one example of folks residing in the USA without proper documents, attaining U.S. citizenship.

#20 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2017-04-20 01:27 PM | Reply

GoNoles was friends with an illegal.

I can't imagine why you're telling us that story, especially since it didn't end with you proudly turning over little Anne Frank to the authorities.

So what's your point?

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-04-20 01:34 PM | Reply

since it didn't end with you proudly turning over little Anne Frank to the authorities.

AFAIK, he and his sister became citizens in HS so he was a fellow 'Merican by the time we met.

#22 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2017-04-20 01:43 PM | Reply

So what's your point? - #21 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-04-20 01:34 PM
He's responding in the flow of the conversation of the page. People following the back-and-forth fully understand GOnoles92's response. You would do well to actually read the whole thing instead of trying to figure out what someone is saying from a single comment.

#23 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-04-20 01:47 PM | Reply

It would involve a Mexican citizens returning to their home country

America is the home country for the Dreamer. They have no connection to Mexico other than a birth. There is no home to return to. We aren't talking about people who came here intentionally and can go back. They have spent their entire lives here. There is no back to go to.

#24 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-04-20 02:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I thought this kid got caught trying to climb a wall to get back in illegally?

If that is the case he is exactly where he should be. He is an adult.

He knows the area, He lived in Calexico. He slept at a friends house in Mexico.

I think it is going to be a big mistake to make this guy the face of the DREAMer's.

#25 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2017-04-20 10:05 PM | Reply

Wait!
Didn't Cheech end up deported when he forgot his ID?

www.youtube.com

Born in East LA

#26 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2017-04-20 10:18 PM | Reply

Okay, I Love this movie.

This one is for our Democratic friends.

Enjoy!

Neil Diamond

www.youtube.com

Coming to America

#27 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2017-04-20 10:31 PM | Reply

America is the home country for the Dreamer. They have no connection to Mexico other than a birth. - #24 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-04-20 02:56 PM
Perhaps you just don't understand what
home country means?
"The country in which a person was born and usually raised, regardless of the present country of residence and citizenship"

The Dreamers are the unusual case where they weren't raised where they were born, but where they were born is still their home country, regardless of the present country of their residence.

#28 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-04-20 10:58 PM | Reply

You don't get it. They did not come here, they were brought here AS CHILDREN. I was born in LaGrange, Illinois but moved to Wisconsin with my family when I was 6. I would never say Illinois is my home state. I am a lifelong Wisconsinite.

There is no back in Illinois for me to go to. My family and friends are here. It is the same for dreamers. They are not mexicans living in America. They are Americans who were born in Mexico. They are every bit as american as the native born kids THEY GREW UP WITH.

#29 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-04-21 02:35 PM | Reply

A "Trump Promise" is a contradiction.

Or is that an Oxymoron?

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-04-22 06:07 AM | Reply

@#29 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-04-21 02:35 PM
While I understand that you have very strong feelings about this, they don't mesh up with the laws of the our country. One beauty of our country is that you can push to change those laws. Another beauty is that, being a democracy, those not blinded by their emotions on the subject can push back.

#31 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-04-22 01:04 PM | Reply

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