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Wednesday, April 19, 2017

Jefferson Morley, Alternet: [E]ven the "mother of all bombs" cannot obliterate the accumulating body of evidence about [President Trump's] relationship with Russian organized crime figures and the not-unrelated question about whether he and his entourage colluded with Russian officials in the 2016 presidential election. The story, notes Talking Points Memo's Josh Marshall, is "hiding in plain sight." The evidence of pre-election collusion between Trump and the Russians, while growing, is far from definitive. The evidence on Trump's organized crime ties is stronger.

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Jonathan Winer, former deputy assistant secretary of state for law enforcement in the Clinton administration, says he was investigating Semion Mogilevich 20 years ago when the "brainy don" (as he was known) pioneered the laundering of criminal proceeds through quasi-legitimate companies in the United States, especially in high-end real estate.

Winer finds it "disturbing" that Mogilevich's associates have done business with Trump. He told a Washington conference earlier this month:

"Imagine you're a foreign government and you want to launder money for domestic espionage operations in the United States. [High-end real estate] would be a great way to do it. It was the method used by Colombian drug traffickers all over Latin America and Miami in the 1980s and 1990s. It's a form that Russian organized crime has used ... All of a sudden we're starting to see the same kind of patterns involving some criminal people and some Russian officials showing up in current investigations with Trump properties."

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everybody knows except the willfully ignorant.

#1 | Posted by ichiro at 2017-04-18 02:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Trump solved this problem for himself by appointing Jeff Sessions as AG, a deeply crooked and evil man who will happily sell out his country to put race relations back a couple of decades.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2017-04-18 08:01 AM | Reply

#3

If Donald's soul is black enough Sessions may not matter.

I see some parallels between Donald and Bugsy Segal.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2017-04-18 08:12 AM | Reply

#2

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2017-04-18 08:12 AM | Reply

Anyone that has had to deal with city government in New York has connections with organised crime. It's how things get done in blue cities.

#5 | Posted by visitor_ at 2017-04-18 11:18 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

It's how things get done in blue cities.

#5 | Posted by visitor_ at 2017-04-18 11:18 AM | Reply

So it was Donald's decision to get richer or be honest?

#6 | Posted by Zed at 2017-04-18 11:25 AM | Reply

It's how things get done in blue cities.

#5 | Posted by visitor_ at 2017-04-18 11:18 AM | Reply

Your way of conceptualizing ordinary morality is alien to me.

#7 | Posted by Zed at 2017-04-18 11:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Its Democrat machine politics, I don't know if there is a Republican equivalent. Try and get the needed permits without connections and greasing palms.

#8 | Posted by visitor_ at 2017-04-18 11:35 AM | Reply

It's how things get done in blue cities.
#5 | Posted by visitor

Its Democrat machine politics, I don't know if there is a Republican equivalent. Try and get the needed permits without connections and greasing palms.

#8 | POSTED BY VISITOR

Visitor, the thread is about RUSSIAN ORGANIZED CRIME.

Reading is fundamental.

There are no "Blue Cities" in Russia. There are no Democratic Machines in Russia.

Are you an imbecile?

#9 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2017-04-18 12:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

I don't know if there is a Republican equivalent.

#8 | Posted by visitor_ at 2017-04-18 11:35

I daresay we have one now.

I'm not sure you understand me. Donald Trump was given $100 million dollars for just being Donald Trump. He never had to mess with the Mob, or even any ordinary corrupt bureaucrat, unless he really wanted to.

Why did he want to?

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2017-04-18 12:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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#9 - tell that to the Paneta's.

#11 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2017-04-18 01:36 PM | Reply

#9 - tell that to the Paneta's...Prolix

To the Paneta's what? Dog? Cat? Parakeet?

Go back to 6th grade and learn to use a possessive apostrophe correctly Shakespeare.

#12 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2017-04-18 02:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Ouch, OWS don't you have some kids to chase off your lawn?

While your up don't forget to check under you're bed for Trump's Russian Mob connections.

#13 | Posted by visitor_ at 2017-04-18 03:27 PM | Reply

Visitor, your effort to gloss over your failure to read the thread and your silly deflection from the subject of Trump's Russian Organized Crime to "Blue Cities" is noted.

Prolix's deflection to Paneta's Parakeet was adorable too.

#14 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2017-04-18 03:52 PM | Reply

The behavior of the CIA, NSA, Pentagon, State Department, White House and Congress has long been indistinguishable from organized crime, with respect to foreign policy. Do as we say or we will invade and kill you until you comply. This sometimes works in the short run but never in the long run since the human spirit of resistance and survival never dies.

Yes, Trump is a heartless, lying, crook, but he is not alone.

#15 | Posted by nutcase at 2017-04-19 07:56 AM | Reply

"Why did he want to?"

Because he has small hands.

#16 | Posted by danni at 2017-04-19 09:17 AM | Reply

I have lived in a very blue city my entire life. I know many business owners. Restaurants, record stores, moving companies. I have never heard of any of them doing business with organized crime or greasing palms. They got all their permits the regular way, by navigating a Byzantine labyrinth of bureaucracy.

#17 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2017-04-19 09:17 AM | Reply

As far as dealing with organized crime in NYC, anyone who gets their trash picked up, or buys concrete, or deals with a Union has dwelt with organized crime.

#18 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-04-19 09:47 AM | Reply

Anyone that has had to deal with city government in New York has connections with organised crime. It's how things get done in blue cities.

#5 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

There has to be an award for dumbest posts. Seriously.

#19 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-04-19 10:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The behavior of the CIA, NSA, Pentagon, State Department, White House and Congress has long been indistinguishable from organized crime, with respect to foreign policy. Do as we say or we will invade and kill you until you comply. This sometimes works in the short run but never in the long run since the human spirit of resistance and survival never dies.
Yes, Trump is a heartless, lying, crook, but he is not alone.

#15 | POSTED BY NUTCASE

Yes, they are sons of bitches. But they are OUR sons of bitches.

Trump is Russia's SOB.

#20 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-04-19 10:50 AM | Reply

Anyone that has had to deal with city government in New York has connections with organised crime. It's how things get done in blue cities.

#5 | Posted by visitor_

Being honest that is an upper east coast stereotype certainly. Is their organized crime involved there? Certainly. Is there simple bribery involved there? Certainly. Is it any difference anywhere else? Nope - it's everywhere. Red/Blue City/Rural Different people/groups but the same thing.

#21 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2017-04-19 11:00 AM | Reply

"I don't know if there is a Republican equivalent."

There are approximately 32 red states which are all entirely corrupt and you pretend otherwise just to prove you are a complete idiot.

#22 | Posted by danni at 2017-04-19 11:01 AM | Reply

I don't know if there is a Republican equivalent.

#8 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Speak of willful ignorance and it shows up by the 8th post.

#23 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2017-04-19 11:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Just to help everyone move on, corruption is a nonpartisan condition.

#24 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2017-04-19 11:09 AM | Reply

#24 | Posted by Whatsleft If corruption is a nonpartisan condition, why are the most notorious examples of corruption in cities are all dominated by the Democrat party?

#25 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-04-19 11:34 AM | Reply

#12- to their Sanctioned Russian Banker clients.

Of course...

#26 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2017-04-19 12:16 PM | Reply

#25 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

I suspect that just as many examples could be found of corrupt Republicans as corrupt Democrats. All over rural America, small towns and rural counties are being run by a good-old-boy network of Republicans. Corruption is simply corruption.

#27 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2017-04-19 02:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

...why are the most notorious examples of corruption in cities are all dominated by the Democrat party?
#25 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

Because nobody cares when Sherrif Buford is shaking down the local Quicky Mart in -------, S.C.

#28 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2017-04-19 04:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Because any city of sufficient gravitas to achieve notoriety has a Democrat for a mayor.

Now why is that, Docnjo?

Bonus question: Why do you figure the most notorious example of trading arms for hostages was when Republicans did it under Reagan?

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-04-19 05:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The reason big cities are usually run by Democrats is because people who live in dense population centers understand their interdependence, which is anathema to the "you're on your own" philosophy of the "conservatives". BTW, did you notice all the corruption in Alabama recently? Republicans all.

#30 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2017-04-20 07:43 PM | Reply

"I see some parallels between Donald and Bugsy Segal."

Actually, he sounds much more like a Kennedy. Bugsy never went from crime to politics. The Kennedys kind of made that their thing.

#31 | Posted by madbomber at 2017-04-20 11:12 PM | Reply

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