Congress was on track Thursday to approve an ambitious bipartisan budget deal, averting a feared midnight government shutdown but also exposing deep divisions in both parties over immigration, deficit spending and how best to prepare for upcoming midterm elections. The Senate was set to vote first on the two-year package, which adds $300 billion in new federal spending to defense and domestic programs for 2018 and 2019, well beyond previous budget caps. Leaders expected that a coalition of Republicans and Democrats would back the bill in the Senate and provide momentum for approval later in the House.
Compromise often brings the parties together in partners-in-arms strategy to accomplish a common goal -- in this case, to avoid the cycle of shutdown threats and temporary measures, including one needed Thursday to keep the government running.
But this deal brought opposition from almost all sides, particularly in the House, where lawmakers often stake more partisan positions. Conservative Republicans protested deficit spending, and Democrats decried the lack of action to protect young immigrants known as Dreamers from deportation.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi urged Democrats to oppose the package, even though she had a hand in crafting it, while allies of Speaker Paul D. Ryan all but pleaded with his majority to deliver the votes needed for passage.
Classic that Pelosi had a hand in crafting the bill, yet urges Democrats to oppose it.
#1 | Posted by Rightocenter
Way to oversimplify an 8 hour speech in which she urged Speaker Paul Ryan for an open debate on immigration to support legal protections for hundreds of thousands of young immigrants.
She is not urging Dems to oppose it. She explained that.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was coy Thursday morning, telling reporters that she personally wouldn't support the bill, but that she still felt it was a good deal for Democrats.
"I'm just telling people why I'm voting the way I'm voting," Pelosi said at a press conference.
"Unlike in the Senate, there is no agreement that the House will even consider legislation to protect DREAMers. By leaving this vital issue unresolved, this package leaves DREAMers isolated, without a path to resolution in the House," a Democratic whip notice said.
Just because leaders are urging a no vote, however, doesn't mean they're truly pushing Democrats to vote down the spending bill. One senior Democratic aide said Pelosi's tepid opposition has been signal enough for some Democrats that, even with that whip notice, there will be no repercussions for voting yes on the bill.
However, she did not explicitly urge her caucus to vote against the budget legislation.
"The Republicans do not have the votes to pass this caps bill on their own," Pelosi wrote. "House Democrats have a voice here and we must be heard."
I'm just quoting from the article, DBoy, unruffle the Manties.
That being said, your own article shows classic political double speak from Pelosi:
"House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was coy Thursday morning, telling reporters that she personally wouldn't support the bill, but that she still felt it was a good deal for Democrats."
She helped write it, feels it is a good deal for Democrats, yet doesn't support it.
"Pelosi's tepid opposition has been signal enough for some Democrats that, even with that whip notice, there will be no repercussions for voting yes on the bill."
Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more...
"She helped write it, feels it is a good deal for Democrats, yet doesn't support it."
No doublespeak that I can see...its a good bill for Dems but there is no agreement from the house to even consider DACA legislation(this is a problem because it may be the last chance to use the budget bill as leverage). It is a tough decision for everyone. But, Pelosi is letting them know what her decision is. She is leaving everyone else to listen to their own conscience and do what they think is right (gee, what a concept!).
In other words...she won't call you UN-American or a traitor if you don't clap for her.
"Unlike in the Senate, there is no agreement that the House will even consider legislation to protect DREAMers. By leaving this vital issue unresolved, this package leaves DREAMers isolated, without a path to resolution in the House,"
If it were me I would not vote for it either. But, that is just me. I am sick of seeing the Dreamers used as a political football.
This is a crisis that Trump created and I would toss it right back into his lap.
But, that is just me. I won't call you a traitor if you disagree. Though it is kind of un-American to be such a cruel and heartless person with no compassion for your fellow man.
Also, I won't clap for you.
The Dems got the --- handed to them in the last shutdown.
They had to compromise.
As for Pelosi, she could stand for 8 hours for illegal aliens but not 30 seconds for Citizens of the United States of America.
Spin all you want, when the press uses words like "coy" and "tepid" to describe Nancy Pelosi's lack of support for legislation she helped craft you know that the fix is in. She wants to look like she opposes it but wants it to pass. Politics at its worst/finest.
Linking the Budget to the Dream Act fix didn't work out so well for the Senate, what makes you think that Pelosi's Standathon was going to be different? As for tossing it back in Donnie's lap, that would be the worst thing Congress could do from a political standpoint, and they know it.
Here is the truth from Rand Paul ...
"When the Democrats are in power, Republicans appear to be the conservative party," Paul said at one point.
"But when Republicans are in power, it seems there is no conservative party. The hypocrisy hangs in the air and chokes anyone with a sense of decency or intellectual honesty."
Too funny that anyone would try and pin this on Nancy Pelosi.
"As for Pelosi, she could stand for 8 hours for illegal aliens but not 30 seconds for Citizens of the United States of America.
#6 | POSTED BY SAWDUST AT 2018-02-08 05:58 PM"
You'd think she was a Republican!
Thanx for sharing this talking point, but it's already well-known and has been used to show GOP hypocrisy.
This stimulus bill is as big as Obama's. Just to put that into perspective.
#10 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER
Except that Obama never used the debt and deficits as a wedge, like the Republicans always do ... and, Obama never 'cried poor for the country' before giving trillions of dollars of free taxpayer money to corporations already making record profits. And the GOP didn't even hide it, they admitted that their tax cut was for their political donors.
Am I happy about rising deficits? Nope. But try convincing average rank-and-file Republican voters that Obama governed like a moderate Republican (good luck with that!) ... this a big part of the problem with all this.
Congress can easily fix the national debt and budget deficits by spending the nation's money more wisely while raising taxes on those Americans who can afford having their taxes raised, like those same Republican billionaire donors.
Both political parties are terrible, but one of them easily rises head and shoulders above the other in crappiness -- anyone saying Nancy Pelosi [or Obama] is the bigger hypocrite than the entire Republican Establishment is silly.
Deficits for war and tax cuts are good!
Deficits for childrens health insurance are bad!
- The GOP "deficit hawks"
Obama also did trickle down and contributed to the great inequity we see now.
Obama laid the groundwork for Trump to take over.
He deserves so much of the blame.
#14 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER
Obama's 2009 stimulus was far from perfect, but his tax cuts were mostly aimed at working and middle-class Americans.
Also, Obamacare was paid for with offsets, the lack thereof that Rand Paul is now ranting about ...
How Congress paid for Obamacare (in two charts)
Again, try convincing regular rank-and-file Republican voters that Obama governed as a moderate-Republican-lite -- it's impossible (thanks to the right-wing media entertainment complex).
Who's to blame? The preponderance of the blame rests squarely on Republicans and their greedy billionaire donors.
Unfortunately Paul contradicts himself by voting to add $1.5 Trillion to the debt with the tax reform bill.
About time they pass a budget bill, All the political grandstanding is getting old. Political party stands doesn't solve anything, get the ball rolling so real work can be done.
And by the way, the poll numbers are in the the democrats like Pelosi figured out they better pass something or they will get killed.
"About time they pass a budget bill, All the political grandstanding is getting old. Political party stands doesn't solve anything, get the ball rolling so real work can be done.
#19 | Posted by Crassus at 2018-02-11 02:32 AM"
BTW, where have you been the last ten years?
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