Wednesday, February 07, 2018

Denmark poised to ban full face Islamic veils

The Danish government is poised to become the next European country to introduce a ban on Islamic full-face coverings in public places.

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"It is incompatible with the values of the Danish society or the respect for the community to keep the face hidden when meeting each other in the public space," Justice Minister Justice Soren Pape Poulsen said.

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Good for them. Good job Denmark.

Let the attacks from Boaz's trolls commence..

***whistles*** "Come Here boy, here laura, here Hans, here Snoofy"****

#1 | Posted by boaz at 2018-02-07 09:10 AM

Does this ban also apply to ninja warriors?

#2 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-02-07 10:25 AM

I would wonder what happens when it's cold. What about balaclavas?

#3 | Posted by boaz at 2018-02-07 10:43 AM

Halloween is next....

#4 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2018-02-07 11:32 AM

"Good for them. Good job Denmark.
Let the attacks from Boaz's trolls commence.."

Posts provocative thread in support of bigotry, calls OTHER people trolls. Too funny.

#5 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-02-07 03:04 PM

--Posts provocative thread in support of bigotry

So now western, semi-socialist liberal democracies in Europe are bigots. I thought progressives loved them.

#6 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-02-07 03:14 PM

Posts provocative thread in support of bigotry, calls OTHER people trolls. Too funny.

#5 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN

I'm surprised you view a burqa-ban as bigotry. I would have guessed that you'd view wearing a burqa as oppressive toward women and would applaud this.

I oppose burqa-bans on more libertarian grounds.

#7 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-02-07 03:14 PM

"I'm surprised you view a burqa-ban as bigotry. I would have guessed that you'd view wearing a burqa as oppressive toward women and would applaud this."

No, it's about religious liberty. They should be able to wear burqas if they want to.

"I oppose burqa-bans on more libertarian grounds."

Agreed.

#8 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-02-07 03:22 PM

No, it's about religious liberty. They should be able to wear burqas if they want to.

Agreed.

#9 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-02-07 03:26 PM

A great costume for bank robbers or other criminals. No need to worry about cameras. Just discard the burqa as soon as you get around the corner.

#10 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-02-07 03:31 PM

"They should be able to wear burqas if they want to."

What about the ones who only wear burkas because their husbands demand it?

I see both sides of this issue, honestly.

I don't think a ban is much better than what they have in Saudi Arabia, which is a de facto requirement.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-07 03:43 PM

Does anyone understand the significance of the veil? While I absolutely support exploring expression, the entire "modest" garb really seems sexually oppressive. Do men wear veils too?

#12 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2018-02-07 03:44 PM

#12 All the Abrahamic faiths are deeply sexist.

Let me give you an example, which still resonates today:

The Holy Spirit raped a married woman. That event is the miracle from which Christianity was born.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-07 03:53 PM

Does anyone understand the significance of the veil? While I absolutely support exploring expression, the entire "modest" garb really seems sexually oppressive. Do men wear veils too?

#12 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT

It's a cultural thing. Wives are only supposed to reveal their bodies (and faces in more conservative Muslim subsets) to their husbands. Oftentimes you'll see Muslim girls NOT wearing this type of garb because they are not yet married. The burqa also stems from the understanding that men are more physically powerful than women and thus keeping covered and thus obscured serves as a means of not drawing another man's attractions and thus advances.

#14 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-02-07 03:55 PM

Muslim men do not wear veils.

#15 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-02-07 03:59 PM

"So now western, semi-socialist liberal democracies in Europe are bigots."

They are if they do stuff like this.

"A great costume for bank robbers or other criminals. No need to worry about cameras. Just discard the burqa as soon as you get around the corner."

So Islamophobes like to claim, never with proof. It is, in any case, a nonspecific complaint at best.

"I'm surprised you view a burqa-ban as bigotry. I would have guessed that you'd view wearing a burqa as oppressive toward women and would applaud this."

It depends on whether one is coerced into wearing one,

#16 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-02-07 04:33 PM

"The Holy Spirit raped a married woman. That event is the miracle from which Christianity was born."

An odd reading of scripture, to be sure.

#17 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-02-07 04:34 PM

-An odd reading of scripture, to be sure.

It's Fake News.

www.theatlantic.com

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2018-02-07 04:39 PM

Conception is a miracle in the Christian faith.

This includes conception by rape.

This has become a politically relevant fact in our time.

Not fake news; I wish it was though.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-07 04:47 PM

Connect the dots, Christians.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-07 04:52 PM

#12 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT
It's a cultural thing. Wives are only supposed to reveal their bodies (and faces in more conservative Muslim subsets) to their husbands. Oftentimes you'll see Muslim girls NOT wearing this type of garb because they are not yet married. The burqa also stems from the understanding that men are more physically powerful than women and thus keeping covered and thus obscured serves as a means of not drawing another man's attractions and thus advances.
Muslim men do not wear veils.
#14 & #15 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-02-07 03:59 PM

Thanks for the posts, but I'm still lost with the black hood as a means to repulse "men's attractions" - are Muslim women programmed to fear men too? It seems deeply misogynistic, and they are probably socially obligated to also murder/disown children born out of wedlock, probably the mother too.

Burkas/hijab look primitive, if austere, and undoubtedly represents mans' earlier societal inclinations to "owning" women. Is it permitted in Islam to "own" multiple wives?

#21 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2018-02-07 04:54 PM

The Holy Spirit raped a married woman. That event is the miracle from which Christianity was born.

#13 | Posted by snoofy

It wasn't rape.

She didn't say stop! (according to the bible which we all know believe is inerrant)

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-02-07 04:55 PM

"The Holy Spirit raped a married woman. That event is the miracle from which Christianity was born."
An odd reading of scripture, to be sure.
#17 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-02-07 04:34 PM | Reply | Flag:
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How so? She was alseep in bed with her husband - suddenly the------------- of light starts a three-way and impregnates a human. It's clear - God is not married to that women, nor that man. It was not consensual, pre-planned or bartered for - this was a woman being taken and raped by a "male entity" in her own wedding bed with her actual, physical husband helpless to respond.

They were both raped physically and emotionally.

#23 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2018-02-07 05:00 PM

Fugly protection...

#24 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2018-02-07 05:40 PM

- Not fake news;

Yes, fake news. There was verbal consent.

Unless the 2000 year old text in the link I posted has changed since it was posted.

#25 | Posted by Corky at 2018-02-07 06:08 PM

"There was verbal consent."

She consented to sex outside marriage?

I would say that there was verbal acknowledgement. She acknowleged her subservience to G-d. Not really the same as consent.

It's a minor issue though. Rape or not, every conception is a miracle.

Also, notice how the same G-d whose Commandments include not coveting thy neighbors wife is permitted to covet Joseph's wife. I guess they weren't neighbors.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-02-07 06:22 PM

#26

You walk backwards well enough to be a DB. Maybe not Pro NFL level, but still.

- every conception is a miracle.

I must have missed that 2000 year or older text. Maybe you can provide it? Or did Pat Robertson tell you that.

- coveting thy neighbors wife

Here, let me help...

The Real Problem with Mary's Baby Bump

www.christianitytoday.com

Mary assented, Joseph relented. No Vegas divorce.

And, in the story, God is not a man, did not have physical sex, and was not subject to laws for men.

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2018-02-07 06:50 PM

"She consented to sex outside marriage?"

Who said anything about sex? The scripture certainly doesn't.

"I would say that there was verbal acknowledgement. She acknowleged her subservience to G-d. Not really the same as consent."

Read carefully and you find both. "Let it be done unto me" is about as clear a statement of consent as one could ask for.

"It's a minor issue though. Rape or not, every conception is a miracle."

And you find that supposition (shared by many if not most religious traditions) a problem why, exactly?

"Also, notice how the same G-d whose Commandments include not coveting thy neighbors wife is permitted to covet Joseph's."

lThe relevant passage, again, says nothing about God coveting anyone.

#28 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-02-07 06:59 PM

Mary assented, Joseph relented. No Vegas divorce.

And, in the story, God is not a man, did not have physical sex, and was not subject to laws for men.

#27 | Posted by Corky

Super Virtual Sex with Holy Insemination. I hope her ------ was so good she yelled, "Oh God!"

All I can say is your God is an Awesome Sex God.

But, can He make something so big and heavy that even He cannot pick it up?

#29 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-02-07 07:18 PM

#29

www.newstatesman.com

Hope you haven't joined the cult.

#30 | Posted by Corky at 2018-02-07 10:25 PM

Commandments include not coveting thy neighbors wife is permitted to covet Joseph's wife.

God didnt covete Joseph's wife. He was looking for a pure soul to enter the world through to clean up the --- up that Adam, Eve and the serpent did (the original three-way).

#31 | Posted by boaz at 2018-02-08 07:25 AM

#31 | Posted by boaz

Is there ANY bone in your body... even a tiny one... that has "blasphemy free" written on it?

#32 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-02-08 09:30 AM

If you believe in any of the 3 Abrahamic religions, you have to accept that Adam and Eve were your parents. And you are picturing your parents in a 3 way.....

What's wrong with you, man? Seriously? Who does that? LOL

#33 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-02-08 09:34 AM

"If you believe in any of the 3 Abrahamic religions, you have to accept that Adam and Eve were your parents."

If you believe that, your real parents have failed you.

#34 | Posted by madbomber at 2018-02-08 06:53 PM

your real parents have failed you.

Really HEATHEN? I don't come from a typical American family with a broken home.... we don't believe in divorce. So no, my parents didn't fail me at all.

I was merely pointing out the ----------- in pfc.BOAZ's freemason devil-worshiping joke. Even though they are not our DIRECT parents, a kind of parent they certainly are.

In fact, take the city of JEDDA, Saudi Arabia.

JEDDA, I am told, means "mother's grave" in Saudish.. where EVE is buried somewhere around there.

#35 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-02-09 02:56 AM

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