Friday, January 26, 2018

Trump Kills Tourism Industry and Jobs

Travel to the U.S. has been on the decline ever since President Donald Trump took office, and new data shows the slump translates to a cost of $4.6 billion in lost spending and 40,000 jobs. According to the U.S. Travel Association, travel had outperformed overall U.S. export growth during the prior five years; the industry generated an $87 billion trade surplus in 2016, without which the U.S. trade deficit that year would have been 17 percent higher. Overall, the U.S. travel industry supports 15.3 million un-exportable American jobs.

"For our country to have any hope of closing the trade gap, international inbound travel must perform, simple as that," said U.S. Travel Association President and CEO Roger Dow. "After almost a decade and a half of relatively sustained post-9/11 recovery, since 2015 there's been evidence that the country has gotten complacent with the policies needed to support this vital economic engine and job creator."

Comments

Who would want to visit a country ruled by a proto-fascist wannabe dictator?

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2018-01-25 04:02 PM

Who wants to visit a country with open carry laws allowing lunatics to shoot down innocent people and then pretend that the victim took two steps towards them in a "threatening" manner?

#2 | Posted by danni at 2018-01-25 04:04 PM

uh yeah..... they say they hate everyone...

#3 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-01-25 08:47 PM

"Those are all robot jobs anyways" - Corky

#4 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-01-26 10:46 AM

"Those are all robot jobs anyways" - Corky

#4 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Deflection noted.

#5 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-26 12:21 PM

""It's not a reach to say the rhetoric and policies of this administration are affecting sentiment around the world, creating antipathy toward the U.S. and affecting travel behavior,""

While there are some people who will say "I'm not going to America because I don't like the President", most of this is completely warranted and good for the country. There are many places I will never travel but would like to. They just aren't as attractive as other places. People don't have to have any "antipathy" not to travel somewhere. Give me a choice between Colombia and Amsterdam, and I'm going to Amsterdam. I have nothing against Colombia but I'd rather go to Amsterdam.

This is just another stupid way a partisan person will try to devalue the current American President. It happens to all of them and it's only getting worse. Of course, the American people are only getting worse so it just follows the mold...

Also, guess what helps tourism as a proven fact that is a strategy every major country deals with at one time or another? A weaker currency. BOOM.

#6 | Posted by humtake at 2018-01-26 12:35 PM

#4 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

How about some creativity?

#7 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-01-26 12:39 PM

"This is just another stupid way a partisan person will try to devalue the current American President."

Trump is devaluing himself. No one is doing it to him. Perhaps if he didn't refer to some nations as ---------. Nobody put those words in his mouth. He's not capable of censoring his own mouth.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2018-01-26 01:00 PM

While there are some people who will say "I'm not going to America because I don't like the President", most of this is completely warranted and good for the country. There are many places I will never travel but would like to. They just aren't as attractive as other places. People don't have to have any "antipathy" not to travel somewhere. Give me a choice between Colombia and Amsterdam, and I'm going to Amsterdam. I have nothing against Colombia but I'd rather go to Amsterdam.
This is just another stupid way a partisan person will try to devalue the current American President. It happens to all of them and it's only getting worse. Of course, the American people are only getting worse so it just follows the mold...
Also, guess what helps tourism as a proven fact that is a strategy every major country deals with at one time or another? A weaker currency. BOOM.

#6 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

Humtake, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Now make up for that lost $4.6 billion and 40,000 jobs.

#9 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-26 01:04 PM

Countries that want to build walls to keep people out become increasingly less inviting to tourists. When our actions make it clear that we are a xenophobic nation foreigners take the hint.

#10 | Posted by danni at 2018-01-26 01:12 PM

America simply is not foreigner-friendly at this juncture. I wouldn't come here as a tourist either in the current environment.

#11 | Posted by moder8 at 2018-01-26 01:20 PM

Hopefully Yosemite Valley will be less crowded this year. The foreign tourists are a plague. Could be a good year for a visit.

#12 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-01-26 01:46 PM

Nulli, what's German for "get off my lawn?"

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-26 01:57 PM

I'd like to see what companies can claim actual loss and jobs eliminated over this.

Not saying the numbers aren't true to if they are that high, then some resorts or theme parks, etc. should be able to publically announce how they are being impacted by this.

I was at Disney World over Thanksgiving.....insane. Never seen so many people, and despite that it's thanksgiving....it's still full of foreigners.

I'm not defending Trump but I really don't care if tourism slows down some.

#14 | Posted by eberly at 2018-01-26 02:02 PM

"I really don't care if tourism slows down some."

How would Kansas even notice??? :)

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-26 02:07 PM

Hopefully Yosemite Valley will be less crowded this year. Could be a good year for a visit.

Better hurry before they start drilling it for oil.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-01-26 02:10 PM

"it's still full of foreigners."

Are you sure it wasn't Americans of Hispanic heritage, who culturally just don't do Turkey Day, and aren't in the Hispanic demographic that goes to Sears on Thanksgiving Day to buy new work boots?

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-26 02:11 PM

15

exactly. we're mostly known not for tourism but rather a highway that takes people TO tourism. I-70 takes folks West to Colorado and the Rocky Mountains....actual tourism. Our tourism consists of the stopping to see the 5-legged cow on the way to Colorado.

LOL

#18 | Posted by eberly at 2018-01-26 02:11 PM

17

Asians and Europeans are in large numbers at Disney and Universal Studios. Some Latin but not really a lot of Hispanics from USA.....except for the employees....

#19 | Posted by eberly at 2018-01-26 02:14 PM

#19

Exactly the same in Yosemite Valley. Rich white europeans and Japanese galore. Not a black or brown person--except the ones that do the dirty work, in sight.

#20 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-01-26 02:25 PM

Uh-oh. Can someone start a new blog entry for this? I'm out of bullets. Thanks.

U.S. economic growth slowed in 2017's fourth quarter, missing Trump's targets

U.S. economic growth slowed in 2017's fourth quarter, underscoring the difficulty President Trump faces in delivering his promised economic renaissance and increasing pressure on the Republican tax bill to achieve results few independent analysts predict it can.

www.washingtonpost.com

#21 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-26 02:26 PM

"Hopefully Yosemite Valley will be less crowded this year. Could be a good year for a visit."

Better hurry before they start drilling it for oil.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack

Or give it away to some corporation who will flood it and fill it full of water.

Sure would make a nice hydroelectric damn. Think of the money someone could be making.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-26 02:33 PM

Let's see, Dow at new highs, manufacturing jobs up, interest rates still low, inflation at or below target, wages climbing...what are we going to complain about in this economy?

How about the low dollar causing a tourism drop?

Brilliant, that has to be Trump's fault!!!

*circle circle circle*

*flap flap flap*

-The Left

#23 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-01-26 02:36 PM

--Uh-oh. Can someone start a new blog entry for this? I'm out of bullets. Thanks.

If four threads a day isn't enough for you, maybe you ought to get a life.

#24 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-01-26 02:38 PM

Hi Nulli! Just one of those days. Lots of sexual harassment allegations coming out.

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-26 02:41 PM

"If four threads a day isn't enough for you, maybe you ought to get a life."

If you have time to sit around advising anonymous online poster's on their life styles, maybe you should take your own advice.

#26 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-26 02:43 PM

"U.S. economic growth slowed in 2017's fourth quarter, missing Trump's targets"

I don't know if missing Trump's targets has any relevance to the market.

#27 | Posted by eberly at 2018-01-26 02:44 PM

I mean....if Trump is a bloviating blowhard on everything then that would include matters pertaining to economic growth.

Who on any of the relevant global markets have really "bet" on Trump's stated targets?

#28 | Posted by eberly at 2018-01-26 02:46 PM

#23 What made the article of interest to me:

"The economy grew 2.3 percent in 2017, better than the year before, but far short of what Trump is promising. Officials had focused on 3 percent GDP growth as proof his economic policies were working, and Trump has said it could go far beyond that target."

#29 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-26 02:46 PM

"Who on any of the relevant global markets have really "bet" on Trump's stated targets?"

Those targets were used to justify the tax cuts and reassure working and middle class workers that the deficit would not increase exponentially.

#30 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-26 02:49 PM

"Officials had focused on 3 percent GDP"

Who would that be?

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2018-01-26 02:49 PM

IOW, those targets were part of the "tax cuts will pay for themselves" theory.

#32 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-26 02:50 PM

"Those targets were used to justify the tax cuts and reassure working and middle class workers that the deficit would not increase exponentially."

that's a political move.....and working and middle class workers don't know ---- about the economy anyway. He can promise them whatever he wants....nobody on wall street gives a crap. Wall street can easily distinguish between platitudes dished out to the voters and realistic economic growth and expectations.

#33 | Posted by eberly at 2018-01-26 02:52 PM

"IOW, those targets were part of the "tax cuts will pay for themselves" theory."

A theory used to make voters feel good.....not a fund manager in charge of a couple billion dollars.

#34 | Posted by eberly at 2018-01-26 02:53 PM

"and working and middle class workers don't know ---- about the economy anyway."

That would be me. Thanks for your insight. Good to know everything is coming up roses economically and will be throughout Trump's presidency.

#35 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-26 02:57 PM

#14 | Posted by eberly

I understand your thought but People travel here is a good thing in general. They spend money on services, entertainment, shopping, etc. The problem with that is it impacts jobs in a lot of sectors. Hotels/Casinos/Entertainment Venues/Shopping/Auto Rentals/Airlines/etc. It affects the trade balance as well.

A friend was looking to visit this summer but as of December she isn't going to any more. We were making plans to spend a few days in NYC and Chicago as well as closer to home. She would have spent thousands and so would we but we won't now.

#36 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-01-26 03:00 PM

Brilliant, that has to be Trump's fault!!!
*circle circle circle*
*flap flap flap*
-The Left

#23 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

No, I'm sure its merely coincidence that Tourism has tanked after a racist President took office demonizing foreigners...and frankly anyone who isn't white and voting Republican.

#37 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-26 03:00 PM

"IOW, those targets were part of the "tax cuts will pay for themselves" theory."
A theory used to make voters feel good.....not a fund manager in charge of a couple billion dollars.

#34 | POSTED BY EBERLY

So it was a lie to voters? Got it.

By the way, it's also a great economic indicator of growth...which is necessary to pay for the tax cuts...

#38 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-26 03:01 PM

35

Wall Street has their own expectations. It would appear they are being met......for now.

I just don't imagine that the folks who really have their fingers on buttons put much stock into trump's promises to his voters.

#39 | Posted by eberly at 2018-01-26 03:02 PM

"So it was a lie to voters? Got it."

sssshhhhh!!! don't tell anybody Trump does that.

#40 | Posted by eberly at 2018-01-26 03:12 PM

sssshhhhh!!! don't tell anybody Trump does that.

You may believe you're being funny.

But millions of die hard Trumpublicans believe every word Trump mutters as gospel truth.

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-01-26 03:51 PM

35
Wall Street has their own expectations. It would appear they are being met......for now.
I just don't imagine that the folks who really have their fingers on buttons put much stock into trump's promises to his voters.

#39 | POSTED BY EBERLY

So you are admitting Trump sold out Middle America to Wall Street?

#42 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-26 04:07 PM

How the hell did the stock market become the metric to measure the "quality of life" in this country? As far as I'm concerned, that's the only measurement that really matters.

#43 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2018-01-26 04:27 PM

"So you are admitting Trump sold out Middle America to Wall Street?"

That's another issue. Maybe he has but I was referring to Gal's #21 only and that what Trump spews out as his "targets". I believe Wall Street distinguishes between what Trump promises to the public and their realistic expectations....and they don't necessarily correlate.

#44 | Posted by eberly at 2018-01-26 04:32 PM

"But millions of die hard Trumpublicans believe every word Trump mutters as gospel truth."

so? How is that different than any other time in modern history?

millions of die hard partisans believe what every president they align with has told them. Been that way my entire life and way before that.

#45 | Posted by eberly at 2018-01-26 04:34 PM

"I believe Wall Street distinguishes between what Trump promises to the public and their realistic expectations"

A public position and a private position.
Now where have I heard that before...

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-26 05:03 PM

Penthouse Forum.

#47 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-01-26 05:21 PM

"So you are admitting Trump sold out Middle America to Wall Street?"
That's another issue. Maybe he has but I was referring to Gal's #21 only and that what Trump spews out as his "targets". I believe Wall Street distinguishes between what Trump promises to the public and their realistic expectations....and they don't necessarily correlate.

#44 | POSTED BY EBERLY

That's...literally selling out Middle America to Wall Street...

#48 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-26 05:30 PM

How the hell did the stock market become the metric to measure the "quality of life" in this country which, as far as I'm concerned, is the only measurement that really matters?

#49 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2018-01-27 12:20 AM

No, I'm sure its merely coincidence that Tourism has tanked after a racist President took office demonizing foreigners...and frankly anyone who isn't white and voting Republican. - #37 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-26 03:00 PM

I'm rather surprised to hear you calling President Obama racist, Sycophant.
See, here we see that Sycophant doesn't do any research before blindly believing the title of the article he's discussing. That article states this:
"Travel to the U.S. has been on the decline ever since President Donald Trump took office, and new data from the Commerce Department shows the slump translates to a cost of $4.6 billion in lost spending and 40,000 jobs, according to an analysis by the U.S. Travel Association"
They then link to the US Travel Association article to cite their work.
However, that US Travel Association article makes this statement:
The Visit U.S. launch next Tuesday will include fresh data showing the U.S. has been falling behind the rest of the world in competing for lucrative overseas travelers since before President Trump took office.

Thanks Obama.

#50 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-27 07:36 AM

"So it was a lie to voters? Got it."
sssshhhhh!!! don't tell anybody Trump does that.

#40 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Or at least, don't tell the people who are stupid enough (*cough* Republicans *cough*) to believe his lies.

With his political record, Trump could have run as a Republican or a Democrat. His stated positions (other than the racist and sexist ones) actually aligned closer with Democrats. But he chose to run as a Republican. I wonder why.

#51 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2018-01-27 08:19 AM

Too bad, with the lowering of the value of our dollar, foreign tourists would be getting a good deal on goods and services.

#52 | Posted by Badcat at 2018-01-27 02:54 PM

-- foreign tourists would be getting a good deal on goods and services.

And our overcrowded national parks would be less accessible to Americans.

#53 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-01-27 03:02 PM

There are a lot of misconceptions with foreign tourists, most travelers I talked to recently in the Far East are scared to come to the US simply because they think we are a police state and that they may be stopped at customs and no entry to the US. That is a big loss financially for anyone who travels. There are so many requirements for folks especially Chinese citizens to visit the US. It's just easier for them to go to either Mexico or Canada.

#54 | Posted by Badcat at 2018-01-27 03:07 PM

#53

Just another white nationalist.

#55 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-27 03:09 PM

"And our overcrowded national parks would be less accessible to Americans."

You should start a petition to ban non-citizens from America.

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-27 03:13 PM

--It's just easier for them to go to either Mexico or Canada.

Good idea. More motel rooms, tent-cabins and camping spots for Americans visiting Yosemite.

#57 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-01-27 03:14 PM

Good idea?
For whom is that a good thing?

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-27 03:18 PM

And our overcrowded national parks would be less accessible to Americans.

#53 | Posted by nullifidian

When was the last time you were in a national park?

And why do you care? You'd piss in Yellow Stone's hot springs just to anger those around you.

#59 | Posted by jpw at 2018-01-29 01:39 AM

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