Tuesday, January 16, 2018

Man Brought to U.S. at Age 10 Deported at 39

His arms wrapped around his wife and two teenage children, Jorge Garcia's eyes welled up Monday as he looked into their eyes one last time near the entrance to the airport security gate. His wife, Cindy Garcia, cried out while his daughter, Soleil, 15, sobbed into Garcia's shoulder as they hugged, with two U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents keeping a close eye on them. After 30 years of living in the United States, Jorge Garcia, a 39-year-old landscaper from Lincoln Park, Mich., was deported on the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday to Mexico, a move his supporters say is another example of immigrants being unfairly targeted under the Trump administration.

More

Especially painful will be the separation from his children, Soleil and Jorge Garcia Jr., 12. The Garcias said their 12-year-old son has been taking the news hard, not expressing himself, which is concerning his parents.

"I'm going to be sad because I'm not going to be able to be with them," Jorge Garcia said at the table of a friend in southwest Detroit hosting a farewell party for him. ... It's going to be kind of hard for me to adjust, too."

Comments

This is a sin. May the pro-life, pro-family, pro-marriage GOP who is enforcing this all rot in hell:

Garcia said he had asked ICE if they could wait until new DACA legislation is passed, which might expand the age range for immigrants to qualify. But, he said, they refused and said he had to leave by Jan. 15.

"I feel kind of sad," Garcia said Sunday night, his eyes welling up. "I got to leave my family behind, knowing that they're probably going to have a hard time adjusting. Me not being there for them for who knows how long. It's just hard."

Garcia is barred from entering the U.S. for at least 10 years.

Before he went through security, he hugged his two kids and wife, Cindy, who cried out and sobbed.

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-15 03:15 PM

outrageous. inhuman.

#2 | Posted by ichiro at 2018-01-15 03:27 PM

Here are the author's tweets on today's deportation:

Niraj Warikoo‏ @nwarikoo

After years living in the U.S. for 30 years, a 39-year-old immigrant in metro Detroit was deported this morning to Mexico. Escorted by ICE agents, he said bye to wife and 2 kids before boarding. He was brought to US from Mexico when he was 10-yrs-old, too old to qualify for DACA:

twitter.com

#3 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-15 03:29 PM

So, you all think after breaking the law for 30 years he should be given a boy scout medal?

#4 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-01-15 03:31 PM

not a medal, a life.
jerk.

#5 | Posted by ichiro at 2018-01-15 03:36 PM

"outrageous. inhuman."

Yes. No one who is a human being, let alone a Christian, could support this action, and yet it is the very people who claim America is a Christian nation that support Trump and the GOP for deporting people like this.

#6 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-15 03:39 PM

"after breaking the law for 30 years."

He didn't break the law for 30 years.
I know it's nigh impossible for Trump supporters to understand this, but "existing" is not a crime in America.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-15 03:45 PM

So, you all think after breaking the law for 30 years he should be given a boy scout medal?
#4 | Posted by Sniper

WAIT! He broke the law?

Well did he have a trial?

You remember this don't you?

Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

#8 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-15 03:52 PM

wait...10 yo is too young for DACA?
i'm listening a13 yo Dreamer talk about it now.

#9 | Posted by ichiro at 2018-01-15 03:52 PM

13 when she came to US. (#9)

#10 | Posted by ichiro at 2018-01-15 03:53 PM

" "existing" is not a crime in America."

It is to Republicans.

#11 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-01-15 03:54 PM

hmmm the father was removed, probably the bread winner, so the family will have to go on public assistance, welfare, etc. This should help our economy.

#12 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-15 03:54 PM

What, you believed Trump when he said he wouldn't break up families?

Here is another mythical thing for you to believe in.
https:
//www.flickr.com/photos/13783035@N02/2908896490/in/photolist-UsA1po-bUWswj-UBpfHh-64kcpp-87uXL7-
5r3RzL-VXfFrZ-djtBok-dubh2i-dsXM3z-9fhemH-r9JC1f-qrMo7d-fkjWDA-cY51yA-6wHJpv-r92pA8-XfPvBE-bWTXff-
GiXF3D-bn9ctN-8tYkwF-nxsbyF-9H3heq-sQHq2i-GzPxMC-9hDEAS-PPWAU7-bVoi4Y-rtp9mx-rrdJdE-rtpdBg-8uAAKw-
dxwuSY-Cv6Kyv-8aydES-4Xqbrz-dpJjcY-aDcpLZ-c3TWg9-6EdFgU-cyaDr3-fNkPH2-8b7qEe-d6HQCG-abXxEY-8zFCzx-
AwU9gq-d8mvpJ-GsTTi9

#13 | Posted by e1g1 at 2018-01-15 03:55 PM

republicans suck

#14 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-15 03:56 PM

#4 eat ---- sniper.

#15 | Posted by jpw at 2018-01-15 04:08 PM

wait...10 yo is too young for DACA?
i'm listening a13 yo Dreamer talk about it now.

At 39, he's too old now to be considered a Dreamer:

To apply, immigrants had to be younger than 31 on June 15, 2012, must have come to the U.S. when they were younger than 16, and must have lived in the U.S. since 2007.

en.wikipedia.org

It looks like Garcia must have just missed the cut off date. I think he is 39 going on 40, so six years ago he would have been 33 going on 34.

#16 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-15 07:36 PM

This is sad. We really really don't have to do this.

#17 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-01-16 12:19 AM

Yes this is Evil

and yes sniper go to hell

#18 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2018-01-16 01:21 AM

"So, you all think after breaking the law for 30 years he should be given a boy scout medal?
#4 | Posted by Sniper "

Guess what hater, people were hiring him the entire time. Where is the "justice" for them? If no one would have hired him he would have returned to Mexico on his own. But your sense of justice is tainted by the color of his skin, you know it, I know it, we all know it. Hater, I'd much prefer to have deported you.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2018-01-16 08:46 AM

not a medal, a life.
jerk.

#5 | Posted by ichiro

How did he live here for 30 years? With a stolen identity, damn illegal? Cash only, not paying taxes, illegal? Or was he on welfare for 30 years? A leach on society any way you look at it.

#20 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-01-16 10:55 AM

"after breaking the law for 30 years."

He didn't break the law for 30 years.
I know it's nigh impossible for Trump supporters to understand this, but "existing" is not a crime in America.

#7 | Posted by snoofy

You aren't snoofy, you are goofy.

#21 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-01-16 10:56 AM

Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

#8 | Posted by truthhurts

However you libs don't apply that to Trump. Isn't that quaint.

#22 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-01-16 10:58 AM

#4 eat ---- sniper.

#15 | Posted by jpw

Great arguement j. Keep up the good work.

#23 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-01-16 10:59 AM

Guess what hater, people were hiring him the entire time. Where is the "justice" for them? If no one would have hired him he would have returned to Mexico on his own. But your sense of justice is tainted by the color of his skin, you know it, I know it, we all know it. Hater, I'd much prefer to have deported you.

#19 | Posted by danni

See #20

#24 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-01-16 11:00 AM

This is unconscionable.

#25 | Posted by gavaster at 2018-01-16 11:06 AM

What is this gav? Deporting someone who has been living on food stamps for 30 years?

#26 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-01-16 12:23 PM

However you libs don't apply that to Trump. Isn't that quaint.
#22 | Posted by Sniper

damned you're dumb, Trump is in the middle of the process.

#27 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-16 12:27 PM

Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

#8 | Posted by truthhurts

I wonder, did you bring this up when all those men were being accused of sexual assaults from 40 years ago and losing their livelyhoods?

#28 | Posted by boaz at 2018-01-16 12:35 PM

outrageous. inhuman.

#2 | Posted by ichiro

What? Parents bringing a child to a foreign nation and not getting him citizenship?

You do mean that, right? But the parents are blameless, in your view, right?

#29 | Posted by boaz at 2018-01-16 12:37 PM

I wonder, did you bring this up when all those men were being accused of sexual assaults from 40 years ago and losing their livelyhoods?
#28 | Posted by boaz

as it wasn't necessary I didn't bring it up. Here is a little education for you. Mr. Garcia was kicked out of the country by the US Government. Diaper claimed he broke the law for 30 years. You hate it but the Constitution states that if Mr. Garcia broke the law he is entitled to specific protections-which he was denied.

#30 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-16 12:39 PM

not a medal, a life.
jerk.

#5 | Posted by ichiro

That's his responsibility, not the country's..

#31 | Posted by boaz at 2018-01-16 12:40 PM

but the Constitution states that if Mr. Garcia broke the law he is entitled to specific protections-which he was denied.

He is a citizen of another nation and in MY nation illegally. He had 30 years to apply for citizenship and didn't.

as it wasn't necessary I didn't bring it up.

Why not? Doesnt it apply to citizens?

Dont you see how ironic your statements are? You want U.S. constitutional protectection applied to a non citizen but not to American citizens..

How lefty. How liberal..

#32 | Posted by boaz at 2018-01-16 12:42 PM

Why do you hate America?

Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall

#33 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-16 12:45 PM

Would someone please list the laws we do and do not have to follow?

#35 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2018-01-16 01:17 PM

Could someone please tell me.

Someone enters the country illegally, is found and in custody for this action.

We are to do.... < > ?

#36 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2018-01-16 01:22 PM

Destroying families is gonna MAGA!

#37 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-16 01:32 PM

"I'm going to be sad because I'm not going to be able to be with them,"

SO why not buy a ticket to Mexico and bring his whole family down there? No ones stopping him...

Many South American countries if you are there illegally, they just shoot you and dump you in a pit.

I.E.

In 2010, a decade after the end of the general insurgency in Peru, there were believed to be as many as 15,000 people whose fate and whereabouts remained unknown.

#38 | Posted by Pegasus at 2018-01-16 01:32 PM

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall - #33 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-16 12:45 PM

Removal of unauthorized immigrants isn't a criminal issue. If the government seeks to press criminal charges for identity theft or tax evasion, those would certainly fall under the protections of the 4th Amendment.

Improper Entry Is a Crime :Like all other criminal charges in the United States, improper entry must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in order to convict.

Unlawful Presence Is Not a Crime: It is a violation of federal immigration law to remain in the country without legal authorization, but this violation is punishable by civil penalties, not criminal. Chief among these civil penalties is deportation or removal, where an unlawful resident may be detained and removed from the country.

Above from here: blogs.findlaw.com

Hope that helps your understanding.

#39 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-16 01:36 PM

#26 | SNIPER

The guy is married to an American and his kids are American citizens. You'd deprive a child of their father because of the actions their grandparents? He was brought to America as a child, which he had no control over. He should be given the opportunity to apply for permanent residency. It's called leniency and goes along with basic human decency. Sure, it's the law that individuals must migrate here legally, but he wasn't given that choice.

#40 | Posted by gavaster at 2018-01-16 01:44 PM

#29 | POSTED BY BOAZ

No, the parents aren't blameless. But we also have a statute of limitations for certain crimes for a reason. You know, like rape, which in OR is limited to 12 years after the action or age 30. So yeah, I'd say being brought to the country as a child 30 years ago qualifies for being outside the statute of limitations for prosecution and instead a pathway to residency should be immediately granted on a probationary basis until a review can be completed of an application and background check. Also, judges and DA's are given discretion whether to prosecute or punish and individual. And in this case the only humane, decent, and honorable thing to do is to grant temporary residency with permanent residency after review.

#41 | Posted by gavaster at 2018-01-16 01:56 PM

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall

You've highlighted your lack of comprehension of that provision at least three times. Deportation is not a "criminal prosecution." It is a civil matter to which Fifth and Fourteenth due process protections apply. The Sixth has not a damn thing to do with it.

#42 | Posted by et_al at 2018-01-16 02:11 PM

Then talk to sniper, he is the one claiming they broke the law.

#43 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-16 02:15 PM

I'm sure this news made Nulli and Andreà's day.

Their safe word can be "Jorge Garcia".

#44 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-01-16 02:17 PM

They did break the law. He's correct.
It's a civil law, so not covered by 'criminal prosecution'. You're better informed.

#45 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-16 02:18 PM

Many South American countries if you are there illegally, they just shoot you and dump you in a pit.

Considering most European American "colonists" came here illegally.

Can Native Americans shoot and dump them into pits?

#46 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-01-16 02:20 PM

Considering most European American "colonists" came here illegally.
Can Native Americans shoot and dump them into pits?

#5 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

I am fairly certain that was happening when the Natives would fight/capture/scalp/etc early colonists. To say that this should occur now is ridiculous.

#47 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2018-01-16 02:27 PM

Considering most European American "colonists" came here illegally.
Can Native Americans shoot and dump them into pits?

#5 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2018-01-16 02:20 PM | FLAG: Really? Can you cite what immigration laws those European colonists violated?

#48 | Posted by MSgt at 2018-01-16 02:27 PM

Considering most European American "colonists" came here illegally. - #5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-01-16 02:20 PM

Can you cite those broken laws, please?

#49 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-16 02:28 PM

So close

#50 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-16 02:28 PM

I am fairly certain that was happening when the Natives would fight/capture/scalp/etc early colonists.

A lot of Native Americans openly welcomed the Europeans.

#51 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-01-16 02:31 PM

#5 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2018-01-16 02:20 PM | FLAG: Really? Can you cite what immigration laws those European colonists violated?
#7 | POSTED BY MSGT AT 2018-01-16 02:27 PM | FLAG:

Can you cite those broken laws, please?
#8 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE AT 2018-01-16 02:28 PM | FLAG:

Look at dumb and dumber here, trying to have a point. You two are adorable.

I was being facetious.

Don't slip on your drool at the news a man has been deported after living here thirty years because the grandchildren of some murdering colonials don't want him here anymore.

#52 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-01-16 02:37 PM

"Can you cite what immigration laws those European colonists violated"

reminds me of the last time I was in Mexico and saw full page adds, in Spanish, advertising jobs at Tyson and other American plants,
no mention of visa or English-speaking requirement in the add.

so, to your point about European colonists, no one invited them

#53 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-01-16 02:43 PM

Damn.

#54 | Posted by fresno500 at 2018-01-16 02:53 PM

The GOP: the party of values.

#55 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-01-16 03:01 PM

"add" "adds"

what a ----. You can't spell nor "add" for ----.

#56 | Posted by eberly at 2018-01-16 03:03 PM

"The GOP: the party of values."

The GOP: the party of family values. Not.

#57 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-16 03:08 PM

Liar-in-chief:

Earlier on in his campaign, Trump said he would round up "in a very humane way" the millions of undocumented immigrants in the country and send them back to their native countries.

In an interview that aired in September 2015 on CBS' 60 Minutes, Scott Pelley pressed Trump about what he would do with the population.

Pelley: "Eleven, 12 million illegal immigrants --"

Trump: "Or whatever the number is."

Pelley: "Still in the country, what do you do?"

Trump: "If they've done well, they're going out and they're coming back in legally. Because you said it--"

Pelley: "You're rounding them all up?"

Trump: "We're rounding 'em up in a very humane way, in a very nice way. And they're going to be happy because they want to be legalized. And, by the way, I know it doesn't sound nice. But not everything is nice."

www.politifact.com

#58 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-16 03:45 PM

I hope he is at least a Hispanic who speaks the language.

I know some who would be as lost as I would be.

#59 | Posted by fresno500 at 2018-01-16 03:55 PM

The Sole Provider of a Six-Year-Old Paraplegic Boy is to be Deported

www.latina.com

#60 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-16 04:00 PM

A leach on society any way you look at it.

#20 | Posted by Sniper

He's been trying for years to find a path to live legally in the U.S., with he and his wife spending $125,000 in legal costs and fees since 2005...

What a leach!

I am betting YOU are more of a leach on society than he ever was.

#61 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-16 04:11 PM

Another Sniper Lie
www.washingtonpost.com

"I don't see the justice in this," AJ Freer of UAW 600 told the Detroit News. "For a man who cares deeply and supports his family, obeys the law, pays taxes and has a history of helping others, I think ICE and the federal government of the United States acted cruelly to this family."

This is so stupid and inhuman on SO many levels. This guy is NOT a detriment to our country. He is the type of person we should want. This action will devastate his family and community. His family will likely wind up on public assistance by losing a breadwinner. Their children will likely have emotional problems resulting directly from losing their father. How is this beneficial to our society? Just give him a path to citizenship. Why is that so hard?

#62 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-16 04:22 PM

Can you cite those broken laws, please?

#8 | Posted by Avigdore

which would you prefer?

American treaties that were broken or Indian Laws that were broken or both?

#63 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-16 04:28 PM

This reminds me of the speculative articles posted on DR about how Ted Cruz couldn't run for president because his parents might not have filed some paper work for the child of a US citizen who born outside of the US.

#64 | Posted by jamesgelliott at 2018-01-16 04:35 PM

This reminds me of the speculative articles posted on DR ...
#21 | Posted by jamesgelliott

He's not Hispanic so it wouldn't matter to Rs.

#65 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2018-01-16 05:58 PM

Looks like the old American Dream has become an old Gray Mare. And she sure ain't what she used to be.

#66 | Posted by bornfree at 2018-01-16 06:01 PM

#43 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

I think the path to citizenship is the hangup for a lot of conservatives. Changing the rhetoric to residency might win more people over. Conservative law and order types just want to extract a pound of flesh. Tell them you won't allow people who were brought here illegally and stayed to become citizens for a minimum of 10 years. Also to become citizens they must pay a huge fee, cons will feel like they won....then waive the fees and provide exemptions. :)

#67 | Posted by gavaster at 2018-01-16 06:18 PM

Would someone please list the laws we do and do not have to follow?

This man didn't break the law. He was 10.

When someone has lived in the U.S. from childhood to age 39 while paying taxes and being an otherwise law-abiding citizen, what is the benefit of deporting him? He even has an American citizen wife and American children to support.

#68 | Posted by rcade at 2018-01-16 06:38 PM

Lincoln Park is only an hour away from me. I'm thinking about driving over there and laughing at this family.

#69 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-16 06:59 PM

Lincoln Park is only an hour away from me. I'm thinking about driving over there and laughing at this family.
#69 | Posted by JeffJ

Either you're an ------- or this was a bad attempt at a joke AND you're and -------

#70 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-16 07:00 PM

It was a bad attempt at a joke. I was channeling Chairborne.

#71 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-16 07:03 PM

Leave the jokes to those with a sense of humor

#72 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-16 07:05 PM

Touche

#73 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-16 07:08 PM

American treaties that were broken or Indian Laws that were broken or both? - #63 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-16 04:28 PM
Go ahead and cite both.

When someone has lived in the U.S. from childhood to age 39 while paying taxes and being an otherwise law-abiding citizen, - #68 | Posted by rcade at 2018-01-16 06:38 PM
Do you think that he stole someone's identity to work illegally in the US? How do you suppose he was filing his federal income taxes?

#74 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-16 07:09 PM

Do you think that he stole someone's identity to work illegally in the US?

No. How many times did you have to show proof of citizenship to get a job in your life?

As for taxes, about half of the undocumented immigrants in the U.S. file taxes. The IRS will issue them an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number which is not shared with immigration authorities.

A lot of people like this man have never broken a law in the U.S. since they arrived here. He was a child so he wasn't even breaking the law at his arrival. He wasn't legally responsible at age 10.

#75 | Posted by rcade at 2018-01-16 07:33 PM

American treaties that were broken or Indian Laws that were broken or both? - #63 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-16 04:28 PM
Go ahead and cite both.

Is your google broke?

500 Treaties made 500 Treaties broken 500 (too many to list).

maybe this TED Talk will help

youtu.be

As far as Native American Law... Natives tribes are sovereign nations... the U.S. Constitution is modeled after the oldest constitution in North America -- the constitution of the Seven Iroquois Nations. The Indians called this constitution "The Great Law of Peace" and it governed an alliance of Indian tribes that was four hundred years old when the first settlers arrived.

Since the Natives were sovereign nations with a constitution it should be obvious how those laws were violated.

I don't have a list of those as they too are too numerous to list. Here are a few examples:

1. Stolen Land

From the day we landed in 1492 until even today, Native Americans are still fighting over land rights.

2. Cultural Genocide

By killing the Native American traditions and upbringing in children, they hoped to begin ridding the country of what they considered to be the "savage" behavior.

Many of these children encountered what can only be described as abuse. They were beaten and put in isolation until they'd submit to the ways of white people.

5. Murder

Whether from "Old World" diseases like small pox and measles, battles with government soldiers or outright murder, the Native population declined by 96 percent.

6. Desecrating Sacred Lands

XL Pipeline, etc.

#76 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-16 07:40 PM

How many times did you have to show proof of citizenship to get a job in your life? #75 | POSTED BY RCADE

Apart from when I valeted or worked in a restaurant or bar, I had to show proof of citizenship every time I applied for and accepted a job offer.

#77 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-01-16 09:31 PM

Since the Natives were sovereign nations with a constitution it should be obvious how those laws were violated. - #76 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-16 07:40 PM
'It should be obvious' isn't a cite. Can you, or can't you? Did you figure out what a Dreamer is, yet?

#78 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-16 10:12 PM

@#75 | Posted by rcade at 2018-01-16 07:33 PM
I was unaware of the Individual Taxpayer Identification Number. Happy to rectify some of my own ignorance on the subject. Thanks for answering an honest question in an informative manner.

#79 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-16 10:17 PM

I had to show proof of citizenship every time I applied for and accepted a job offer.
#77 | POSTED BY GONOLES92

I can sure as hell guarantee that you NEVER had to SHOW proof of citizenship EVERY time you APPLIED for a job.

It's like saying you had to pass a drug test EVERY time you applied for a job. Just fnckin' silly.

Stop being fnckin' silly.

#80 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-01-16 10:22 PM

Since the Natives were sovereign nations with a constitution it should be obvious how those laws were violated. - #76 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-16 07:40 PM
'It should be obvious' isn't a cite. Can you, or can't you? Did you figure out what a Dreamer is, yet?

I did all that work for you and that's all I get? Wow. You are great at sowing chaos and division but you really suck as a serious debater Comrade.

You probably didn't even watch the Ted Talk.
And you apparently can't read either.

I said I couldn't cite them ALL.

But I cited at least six Native American laws violated.

And I know what a Dreamer is -------.

That is the last time I do the google for you Comrade. Do your own research from now on.

#81 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-16 11:03 PM

#65: "He's not Hispanic"

What do you mean by that?

#82 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-01-16 11:28 PM

maybe this TED Talk will help
#76 | Posted by donnerboy

A gut wrenching narrative of Native American grievances, indeed too many to list.

As far as Native American Law ...

Therein lies the problem. You purported to respond to "Go ahead and cite both."

Then you provide a long list of factual assertions without citation. Perhaps you have work to do.

And my google ain't broke. The relationship between the oral Constitution of the Iroquois Nations and the Constitution of the United States is not as clear as you project, but you know that, assuming your google ain't broke.

#83 | Posted by et_al at 2018-01-17 12:57 AM

I cited at least six Native American laws violated. - #81 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-16 11:03 PM
Do you read as well as you count?
"1. Stolen Land
2. Cultural Genocide
5. Murder
6. Desecrating Sacred Lands - #76 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-16 07:40 PM "
Brilliant.

The claim was "most European American "colonists" came here illegally". -#46 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-01-16 02:20 PM.
The request for a cite for what law was broken to make their coming here illegal. Your deflection to possible crimes committed while they were here is not relevant.

And I know what a Dreamer is -------. - #81 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-16 11:03 PM
Evidence says otherwise. You claimed that Dreamers were born here:
I was born here. - #4 | Posted by Federalist
So were all the Dreamers. - #19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-15 03:16 PM

#84 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-17 10:24 AM

I wonder if some creative lawyer will try a different tack:

an application of the adverse possession laws.

#85 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2018-01-17 10:25 AM

#77 | Posted by GOnoles92

That's BS and you're a liar.

#86 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-01-17 10:38 AM

He even has an American citizen wife and American children to support.

#68 | Posted by rcade at 2018-01-16 06:38 PM | Reply | Flag

Who now have 1/2 of their income gone and in all probability will have to go further onto the social safety net (medicaid, food stamps, etc) to stay alive.

On the upside, there is now a job created by tRump.
#MAGA

#87 | Posted by 726 at 2018-01-17 10:54 AM

It didn't say if, unlike other illegal families deported by tRump, if they voted for him or I missed it in the article.

#88 | Posted by 726 at 2018-01-17 11:30 AM

Who did he vote for?

#89 | Posted by Petrous at 2018-01-17 11:47 AM

The President doesn't have to follow the emolument clause of the Constitution. The President can obstruct justice frequently and at will. The President can launder money through his own properties from Russia and Kazakhstan. The President can have a long history of sexually harassing women. The President can lie thousands of times in one year. The President can enrich himself by taking weekly vacaitons at his own properties, then billing the government.

But please, tell me again, how he made America better by deporting this man.

#90 | Posted by e1g1 at 2018-01-17 01:03 PM

How many times did you have to show proof of citizenship to get a job in your life? #75 | POSTED BY RCADE

For every job I've accepted as an adult. You have to show a combination of ID's I generally choose License and Birth Cert.

#91 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2018-01-17 03:48 PM

I've never had to show a birth certificate for a job.

drivers license, drug test, back ground check, and complete an I-9 form? pretty much all the time.

#92 | Posted by eberly at 2018-01-17 03:50 PM

I've never had to show a birth certificate for a job. #92 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I had to provide mine for the job I currently hold. It may be due to the nature of my job and that our company holds government contracts, though I am not sure.

#93 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2018-01-17 05:22 PM

google form I-9.

you're not starting any sort of real job without filling that out, and the 3rd page has all the possible acceptable ID combo's

#94 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2018-01-17 07:17 PM

Drudge Retort Headlines

Florida Governor: Those Under Age 21 Should Not Own Guns (224 comments)

Trump Wants to Arm Teachers (91 comments)

Texas School Will Punish Any Student Who Protests (75 comments)

Trump Needed 'Cheat Sheet' When He Met Survivors (72 comments)

Parkland School Cop Didn't Enter Building (56 comments)

32 More Indictments for Manafort, Gates (55 comments)

NRA Opposes Age Limits on Gun Purchases (53 comments)

The AR-15 Inflicts Devastatingly Different Wounds (52 comments)

More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes (52 comments)

Trump: 'Maybe They Have to Put a Rating System' on Movies (50 comments)