Thursday, January 11, 2018

Trump Slams Immigrants from '----Hole' Countries

President Trump grew frustrated with lawmakers Thursday in the Oval Office when they floated restoring protections for immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador and African countries as part of a bipartisan immigration deal, according to two people briefed on the meeting. "Why are we having all these people from ---hole countries come here?" Trump said, according to these people, referring to African countries and Haiti. He then suggested that the United States should instead bring more people from countries like Norway, whose prime minister he met yesterday.

Comments

Will Trump ever behave like a President?

Trump is doing all he can, every day, to make USA a -------- country.

#1 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2018-01-11 05:21 PM

CNN's Jim Acosta painfully and accurately calls out Trump for his expressed racial animus towards certain persons of color.

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#2 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-01-11 05:44 PM

Video at this link, sorry: talkingpointsmemo.com

#3 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-01-11 05:46 PM

What a pathetic putz this one-trick-pony jackass reveals himself to be, never missing an opportunity to blare the message that he is waaay out of his league.

#4 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2018-01-11 05:48 PM

Trump told the truth. Countries like El Salvador, Niger, Somalia, etc, are ---------? If they are not, why their citizens want to stay there?

#5 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2018-01-11 05:52 PM

Man's a genius. Who can doubt it?

Norway prolly wouldn't let him set foot in their country.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-11 06:03 PM

Man's a genius.

A stable genius.

He told us himself.

#7 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-01-11 06:05 PM

Evil racist mfer.

#8 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-01-11 06:09 PM

A president has many important tasks, a key one being that he or she serves as our top diplomat -- the face of America to the rest of the world. Trump shows America to be an obnoxious, self-obsessed jerk. He fails at diplomacy so spectacularly that it boggles the mind.

Of course, he speaks just as disrespectfully of his fellow Americans. He speaks solely to his base, and they lap it up. It's an absolute disgrace.

#9 | Posted by cbob at 2018-01-11 06:19 PM

#5

The New Colossus

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Someone needs to understand why this plaque rests on a giant lady in our most storied harbor. Without a direct law, this place is a constant reminder of who and what we are as America and why many died to create and maintain a nation that openly displays that it's very strength comes from those supposedly the refuge of others.

No one of sensibility would argue that we shouldn't have reasonable limits on immigration. It's more about the reason the dispossessed end up on our shores usually is because where they came from was untenable for them to stay.

#10 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-01-11 06:22 PM

Okay. We need a definitive list. The State Department and ICE have a right to know which precisely are the -------- countries. Maybe Trump can appoint a special blue ribbon commission to legally designate what constitutes a -------- country. And the list has to include more than just Pakistan.

#11 | Posted by moder8 at 2018-01-11 06:29 PM

I believe Trump Tower is the capital of -------- country.

#12 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-11 06:35 PM

He could start with Obama's list of -------- countries like Somolia and virtually all the 'Stans.

#13 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2018-01-11 06:42 PM

an obama deflection! how original.

Just admit trump is a pos and move on with your life.

#14 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-01-11 06:44 PM

"Trump shows America to be an obnoxious, self-obsessed jerk. He fails at diplomacy so spectacularly that it boggles the mind."

Doesn't sound like a failure to me.

#15 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-01-11 06:49 PM

Oh for F' sake. The President and the News can say S---Hole but it gets censored here?

#16 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-11 06:57 PM

"Why are we having all these people from ---hole countries come here?"

-Native Americans, for hundreds of years.

#17 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-01-11 07:01 PM

He could start with Obama's list of -------- countries like Somolia and virtually all the 'Stans.
#13 | POSTED BY BOGEY1355

an obama deflection! how original.
Just admit trump is a pos and move on with your life.
#14 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

Be nice. You know he doesn't have a life.

#18 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-11 07:06 PM

Oh for F' sake. The President and the News can say S---Hole but it gets censored here?

Advertisers won't support sites like this one if they contain profanity. Until somebody pays me enough to run the place without ads, I have to live by their rules.

#19 | Posted by rcade at 2018-01-11 07:06 PM

#9 CBOB So many of Trump's supporters come from -------- states.

#20 | Posted by squinch at 2018-01-11 07:06 PM

People from majority black countries: I hope you die of aids in your s-hole country.
People from majority white countries: Welcome, brother. Come on in.
People at Nazi rally: there's some good people in that group.

Someone tell me how he is not really racist.

#21 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2018-01-11 07:09 PM

"Advertisers won't support sites like this one if they contain profanity."

Uhhh... can't we all agree when the President says it, it's not profanity?
Can't we grab that new reality by the -----?

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-11 07:10 PM

It's mildly ironic that Trump turned out to actually BE a bunch of things righties spent 8 years pretending Obama was: A narcissist, dumb ass, racist, street agitating, petty tyrant with no love for the press or the law.

Too funny.

#23 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-01-11 07:12 PM

In fact, i not only want to see trumps birth certificate, how about the college transcripts from his fraudulent MBA?

Lol

#24 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-01-11 07:14 PM

He is the son of an immigrant and the husband of an immigrant. I guess immigrants are ok for him as long as they are white. His father was also into the KKK, just like him. sad.

What an -------

#25 | Posted by bus_driver at 2018-01-11 07:19 PM

Trumps birth certificate is available on line and has been. Ask Bill Maher. He lost the bet. As for the MAN, it shouldn't be too hard to find either.

#26 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2018-01-11 07:22 PM

MBA.

#27 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2018-01-11 07:22 PM

So, Mr. President, would you say South Florida is a ‘--------' too?
Miami Herald Editorial Board

Read more here: www.miamiherald.com

He's describing his employees... and investors in his hotels.

All that trouble that his admin went to to threaten to drill baby drill the coasts of FL and then pull back and say they wouldn't because, you know, swing state... just went down the toilet with this ....hole statement.

Well, in south and all of coastal FL, anyway. In north and central inland red state FL, it prolly helped him.

#28 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-11 07:26 PM

wow, bogey is so stupid he thinks i wasn't being facetious.

#29 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-01-11 07:26 PM

Trump told the truth.

Does the president calling another country a ----hole make things better or worse? He's denigrating millions of people from those places who have come here and made this country a better place.

How do you think a U.S. soldier from what Trump calls a "----hole" feels today? Even if you leave a country (or your parents or grandparents did) it's still a major part of your heritage.

We all know why he wants immigrants from Norway while using a vile term to describe other countries. He thinks white people are worth more than non-white people. The impulse that made him say this comment today is the same one that made him refuse to denounce Charlottesville Nazis. Trump is a white nationalist.

#30 | Posted by rcade at 2018-01-11 07:27 PM

wow, bogey is so stupid he thinks i wasn't being facetious.

#29 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-01-11 07:26 PM | Reply | Flag:
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Bogey is very, very stupid. Tremendously stupid.

#31 | Posted by cbob at 2018-01-11 07:32 PM

The racism is out of the closet at last .... Make America 1925 Again!

#32 | Posted by e1g1 at 2018-01-11 07:47 PM

I'm pretty sure Trump is hoping to get fired...I don't think he ever thought he would win, didn't want to win, and was only running to effect his brand image.

#33 | Posted by madbomber at 2018-01-11 07:53 PM

Trumps base will love this racist slur. I guarantee it.

#34 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2018-01-11 07:53 PM

He could start with Obama's list of -------- countries like Somolia and virtually all the 'Stans.

#13 | Posted by bogey1355

Strewth!

I am sure he was referring to Uzbeckybeckystan, Nambia and that horrid little Island Nation of Binomo.

They are always trying to sneak into our country.

Those brown Nambianos are so damn lazy they didn't even bother to put their own country on a map.

And those horrid little Binomos eat their young.

#35 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-11 07:55 PM

I don't think he ever thought he would win, didn't want to win, and was only running to effect his brand image.

I agree.

#36 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-01-11 07:58 PM

"He thinks white people are worth more than non-white people."

When it comes to immigrants, I'd say the exact opposite is true. Unless they're white people from eastern Europe or something.

#37 | Posted by madbomber at 2018-01-11 07:59 PM

#34
LCD man, LCD sycophants.

And they are so proud to be LCD.

#38 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2018-01-11 08:01 PM

Trumps base will love this racist slur. I guarantee it.

Racists aren't 100% of his base, though. Whatever percentage is not racist can still reach a breaking point with this loathsome creep.

If anyone here is still in his base, it would be nice to see you affirm your decency and condemn Trump for this.

#39 | Posted by rcade at 2018-01-11 08:04 PM

#5 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2018-01-11 05:52 PM

where were YOUR ancestors from, and when did they arrive here?

#40 | Posted by e1g1 at 2018-01-11 08:14 PM

DOTUS is a capo. an uneducated racist, misogynist, capo, and that's all he is. and even THAT was given to him.
to stupid for the higher ranks. but he's his own nepotism consigliere.

#41 | Posted by ichiro at 2018-01-11 08:22 PM

too

#42 | Posted by ichiro at 2018-01-11 08:23 PM

like...Ireland?
...somebody shove this poem and Lady Liberty down his throat.

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
MOTHER OF EXILES. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

#43 | Posted by ichiro at 2018-01-11 08:39 PM

The racism is out of the closet at last .... Make America 1925 Again!

#32 | POSTED BY E1G1

The hoods are off...especially with Grand Wizard Trump in the WH.

#44 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-11 08:40 PM

I mean, how long until Trump makes these people go back to all the ....holes they came from?

Oh, wait, it's already started.

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-11 08:45 PM

"Why are we having all these people from ---hole countries come here?"

To work in exquisite hotels and fine resorts owned by President Donald J. Trump.

Signed,
GoNoles

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-11 08:51 PM

Drumpf, is that German? ... #metoo.

#47 | Posted by ichiro at 2018-01-11 08:58 PM

#Oprah2020

#48 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-01-11 09:12 PM

"If anyone here is still in his base, it would be nice to see you affirm your decency and condemn Trump for this."

Didn't Charlottesville teach you anything, RCade?
There are good people on both sides of the -------- country issue.

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-11 10:05 PM

Supplemental: I'm hopeful "-------- Country" becomes a music genre, so I can start liking country music again.

Pretty much already describes David Allen Coe...

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-11 10:07 PM

He then suggested that the United States should instead bring more people from countries like Norway, whose prime minister he met yesterday.

Because Norwegians probably think the US is a -------- and wouldn't want to be here?

#51 | Posted by jpw at 2018-01-11 10:07 PM

#9 CBOB So many of Trump's supporters come from -------- states.

#20 | POSTED BY SQUINCH

That's sort of the ironic thing about it.

There's probably countless Jim Bob and Mary Jo Jeans out there sitting in the ratty living rooms of their busted ass trailers laughing at how right Trump is to call them -------- countries.

#52 | Posted by jpw at 2018-01-11 10:11 PM

Advertisers won't support sites like this one if they contain profanity. Until somebody pays me enough to run the place without ads, I have to live by their rules.

#19 | Posted by rcade

Really? I seem to remember this place still having ads when there were practically no rules.

#53 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2018-01-11 10:15 PM

"If anyone here is still in his base, it would be nice to see you affirm your decency and condemn Trump for this."

You can't be serious...

#54 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-01-11 10:20 PM

From which ****hole did Clarence Thomas' ancestors ooze from?

From which ****hole did Ben Carson's ancestors ooze from?

And, for those of us here on the Drudge Retort:

From which ****hole did pfc. boazo's ancestors ooze from?

Inquiring minds need to know.

#55 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-11 10:33 PM

I think it's time to start being honest. The president is a piece of ----. The Republicans are doing nothing to stop him. If you are a Republican, you are also a piece of ----. It doesn't matter what you believe. It's like belonging to the Klan. No redeeming qualities you may possess could save you from the guilt of being associated with the group.

#56 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-11 10:53 PM

Before the risk of experiencing emotional based reasoning subsequently resulting in personal attacks let's debate why not wanting to accept people en masse from countries with average IQ levels of less than 80 may not be an unreasonable request. Also, several of these countries are less safe than the United States. Wouldn't a country want to bring in inhabitants from countries which are listed as statistically safer and on average have higher iq's than ones own country. Its called stacking your team with the best players.

iq-research.info

www.atlasandboots.com

#57 | Posted by 7thSon at 2018-01-11 10:57 PM

- Pretty much already describes David Allen Coe...

lol, I had friend in college that wrote and performed locally her country song entitled, "David Allen Coe is a Rhinestone *sshole".

#58 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-11 11:12 PM

- Its called stacking your team with the best players.

You got that offa the Statue of Liberty, right?

#59 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-11 11:13 PM

7THSON

Wow. I'll assume you're an off the grid hermit with no interaction with Americans let alone human beings. If you ever met someone or had a family member who was mentally challenged you wouldn't say such things.

Intelligence or lack of it shouldn't be a factor when choosing whether or not to help human beings trying to escape from oppression, genocide, environmental disasters or other mass displacement event. In fact, the value of human like is unquantifiable, it simply is.

Eugenics of any form is an abhorration of mankind that path to genocide.

#60 | Posted by handy_man at 2018-01-11 11:30 PM

*human life

#61 | Posted by handy_man at 2018-01-11 11:31 PM

*paves the path

My fat fingers don't like my phone.

#62 | Posted by handy_man at 2018-01-11 11:32 PM

Kudos to the NY Daily News for Friday's cover.

pbs.twimg.com

#63 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2018-01-11 11:35 PM

Montel Williams @Montel_Williams

Trash like @realDonaldTrump will always be trash. So a word for Donald and his cult of ignorant white people: Haiti and Africa have produced many better humans then he.

#64 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-11 11:40 PM

Trump can take his MKL Jr message and shove it where the sun don't shine:

Manu Raju @mkraju

Ya can't make it up: Trump was taping a video message for MLK Jr. this afternoon as the story broke about his '--------' comments, per @jeffzeleny

#65 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-11 11:55 PM

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

#43 | POSTED BY ICHIRO

The more you repeat that the bigger chance one of them Deplorables gonna get drunk and go full Trump and rip that dang libby loving commie French piece O plaque right off of there and throw it in the bay.

#66 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-12 12:02 AM

I seem to remember this place still having ads when there were practically no rules.

And then there were rules.

#67 | Posted by rcade at 2018-01-12 12:09 AM

Kaitlan Collins‏ @kaitlancollins

Staffers inside the White House aren't that worried about Trump's "--------" remark -- with some predicting it will actually resonate with his base, not alienate it, much like his attacks on NFL players who kneel during the national anthem did.
2:42 PM - 11 Jan 2018

(Covering the White House for CNN)

#68 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-12 12:22 AM

Between the Haitians and the Puerto Ricans, let's turn FL blue:

Rick Wilson‏ @TheRickWilson

Don't worry. It's not like there about 300,000 Haitians in Florida now or that they represent a fast-growing group of registered voters. #maga

#69 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-12 12:31 AM

'The President Must Apologize': Haitian-American GOP Rep. Mia Love Slams Trump's '-------- Countries' Comment

Republican Rep. Mia Love condemned President Donald Trump on Thursday over his reported comments referring to immigrants from El Salvador, Haiti and some African nations as coming from "-------- countries."

The Utah representative, whose family is from Haiti, called on the president to apologize and said his remarks were "unkind" and "divisive."

"The President' comments are unkind, divisive, elitist, and fly in the face of our nation's values. This behavior is unacceptable from the leader of our nation. My parents came from one of those countries but proudly took an oath of allegiance to the United States and took on the responsibilities of everything that being a citizen comes with," Love said in a statement on Thursday.

"They never took a thing from our federal government. They worked hard, paid taxes, and rose from nothing to take care of and provide opportunities for their children. They taught their children to do the same. That's the American Dream," the statement continued.

"The President must apologize to both the American people and the nations he so wantonly maligned."

time.com

If T-Rump invites her to the WH to apologize, she should watch his tiny hands so they don't grab her by the, er, Cheeky Smile.

"That's the American Dream"

That was the Pre-Trump American Dream. Today's version is only available in Norway White.

#70 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-12 01:02 AM

Trump shows America to be an obnoxious, self-obsessed jerk. He fails at diplomacy so spectacularly that it boggles the mind.

Leaders in other countries know that Trump is a aberration and that they just have to hold on until America corrects its mistake. The first glimpse that America is correcting its mistake will come in the Nov 2018 elections. If republicans are repudiated in those elections, the world will breathe a sigh of relief because it will be a very strong signal that America is coming to its senses.

As a minimum, that repudiation must include the dems taking over the HOR for the world and (most) Americans to feel that the spasm has eased. Dems taking over the HOR and the Senate will signal the beginning of the end for the Trump administration.

Trump has to go even if Pence is his replacement. I can only hope that the conditions under which Trump leaves the way house would make it highly unlikely that he will ever tweet again.

#71 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2018-01-12 05:28 AM

The White House spokesman who, without denying a word Trump said, offered the America-first type explanation for Trump's "--------" remarks, was 33-year-old Raj Shah, whose parents immigrated here from Mumbai after leaving their native India. You were just lucky your parents didn't try to come here from ---------, Raj.

#72 | Posted by nimbleswitch at 2018-01-12 05:44 AM

If you are Michele Jeanne Sison, Trump's recently confirmed U.S. Ambassador to Haiti, how could you do anything less than resign that "--------" ambassadorship. If you have any self respect, that is.

#73 | Posted by nimbleswitch at 2018-01-12 05:54 AM

Hey, Donnerboy, the Statue of Liberty plaque bearing the poem "The New Colossus" ain't French, boy! Why, that there pome were written by a woman from New York City. ‘Course, we know that New York City is a "--------," right, Donnerboy? And that anybody who came from there is a piece of "s -- t," right, Donnerboy? Right? C'mon, say it. Say it, Donnerboy! Aw, c'mon!

#74 | Posted by nimbleswitch at 2018-01-12 06:29 AM

"Wouldn't a country want to bring in inhabitants from countries which are listed as statistically safer and on average have higher iq's than ones own country. Its called stacking your team with the best players. "

OK, then most of Europe, Australia, CAnada, Japan, S. Korea and other places should reject Americans who want to travel there.
Donald Trump....the First ----------- President! Can't wait for his next opportunity to speak to an international group like the U.N. Trust me, he will not be warmly received. We have an ignorant, racist buffoon as President because Republicans got so good a stealing elections. This shame is on all Republicans, the one's who knew about the cheating and the also the one's who heard about it but wouldn't take it seriously.

#75 | Posted by danni at 2018-01-12 07:57 AM

Sergeant 'Buster' Kilrain: Well, if you mean the race, I don't really know. This is not a thing to be ashamed of. The thing is, you cannot judge a race. Any man who judges by the group is a pea-wit. You take men one at a time.

#76 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-12 08:28 AM

In the late 1700s, France owned much of what is today the U.S., as well as the western third of the Caribbean island of Hispaniola. The French named it Saint-Domingue. Today it's called Haiti.

France turned Saint-Domingue into a slave society with one goal: Produce the largest quantity of commodity crops, particularly sugar, as possible. It eventually supplied 75% of all the sugar on earth, and generated more wealth than all 13 American colonies together.

This level of productivity required baroque cruelty. About one-third of each shipment of enslaved Africans died within three years of arriving in Saint-Domingue. This led to slave revolts. Surprisingly, a rebellion that began in 1791 succeeded a decade later – the only time a slave revolt won in the history of the western hemisphere.

By 1803 France had lost tens of thousands of soldiers and was dangerously low on cash. So Napoleon offered Jefferson, then president, all of French Louisiana to the U.S. for $15 million. This "Louisiana Purchase" would never had happened but for the Haitian Slave Revolt.

#77 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-01-12 08:33 AM

"OK, then most of Europe, Australia, Canada, Japan, S. Korea and other places should reject Americans who want to travel there."

There is a difference between immigrating and traveling but either way those countries have the right to elect not to accommodate either request based off the argument raised.

"Wow. I'll assume you're an off the grid hermit with no interaction with Americans let alone human beings. If you ever met someone or had a family member who was mentally challenged you wouldn't say such things. Intelligence or lack of it shouldn't be a factor when choosing whether or not to help human beings trying to escape from oppression, genocide, environmental disasters or other mass displacement event. In fact, the value of human life is unquantifiable, it simply is. Eugenics of any form is an aberration of mankind that path to genocide."

I interact with human beings daily from all walks of life traveling the country for a small consulting firm. We help people from all backgrounds and demographics turn their small to midsize service/trade businesses around. As far as a family member who is mentally challenged my uncle met that criteria and he died on a naval ship when he fell down an elevator shaft from what I understand was his inability to adequately comprehend or adhere to basic safety precautions and Im not sure what that has to do with the case raised as I never argued not helping people from these countries. Arguing for restrictions on immigration from countries that are less safe and/or have lower average iq's does not equate with not helping. I'm all for sending aid and whatever resources to these countries to teach these people to improve their quality of life. Also, didn't address the debate point for not bringing in immigrants from countries designated less safe as confirmed by United Nations geoscheme data.

#78 | Posted by 7thSon at 2018-01-12 09:46 AM

This man and his sycophants are delusional:

Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump

Thank you Adam Levine, The Federalist, in interview on @foxandfriends "Donald Trump is the greatest President our Country has ever seen."
6:43 PM - 11 Jan 2018

#79 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-12 10:13 AM

Before the risk of experiencing emotional based reasoning subsequently resulting in personal attacks let's debate why not wanting to accept people en masse from countries with average IQ levels of less than 80 may not be an unreasonable request. Also, several of these countries are less safe than the United States. Wouldn't a country want to bring in inhabitants from countries which are listed as statistically safer and on average have higher iq's than ones own country. Its called stacking your team with the best players.
iq-research.info
www.atlasandboots.com

#57 | POSTED BY 7THSON

First, IQ tests are literally the height of racism and classism since they often test based on upper class cultural knowledge rather than actual intelligence quotient. There is a great Adam Ruins Everything on it. You should reading a bit more before posting.

Second, idiot, no one said we wouldn't appreciate getting more educated immigrants. The issue is the racism involved here by Trump and his "--------" comments.

If you aren't smart enough to see the issue, it says A LOT about where your IQ is.

#80 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-12 10:16 AM

Trump couldn't even qualify as a contributor to Daily Stormer.

#81 | Posted by danni at 2018-01-12 10:26 AM

"Before the risk of experiencing emotional based reasoning subsequently resulting in personal attacks let's debate why not wanting to accept people en masse from countries with average IQ levels of less than 80 may not be an unreasonable request."

By your own criteria you wouldn't qualify to enter the United States.

#82 | Posted by danni at 2018-01-12 10:27 AM

How many times have I heard progressives invite libertarians to live in some "s---hole" like Somalia? Too many to count. Is it racist to describe Somalia that way? Just watch Black Hawk Down.

How many times have they described red states as "s---holes"? Same answer.

While Trump shouldn't have said it, a lot of countries fit the description: corrupt 3rd world dictatorships, failed states, states where women are stoned to death, etc.

#83 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-01-12 10:37 AM

"When the Debate is Lost, Slander Becomes Tool of the Loser". It takes an immense amount of emotional iq and courage to sit behind a keyboard and hurl personal insults ignoring the actual point of debate. Where is the proof discrediting IQ as a measure of actual intelligence?

#84 | Posted by 7thSon at 2018-01-12 10:39 AM

Where is the proof discrediting IQ as a measure of actual intelligence?

#84 | POSTED BY 7THSON AT 2018-01-12 10:39 AM

I truly cannot believe someone can be so willfully obtuse and completely lacking in discernment. The proof is the human condition and all its miraculous variables.

"When you come to the most complex known object, the human brain, the idea that there is only one measure of intelligence had to be wrong. We can all think of people that have poor reasoning and brilliant memories, or fantastic language skills but aren't so hot at reasoning, and so on. Now once and for all we can say there is not a single measure such as IQ which captures all the intelligence that you see in people." www.telegraph.co.uk

#85 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-01-12 10:48 AM

"When the Debate is Lost, Slander Becomes Tool of the Loser". immediately followed by: "It takes an immense amount of emotional iq and courage to sit behind a keyboard and hurl personal insults ignoring the actual point of debate." - #84 | Posted by 7thSon at 2018-01-12 10:39 AM

Self-retorting retort.

#86 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 10:49 AM

"While Trump shouldn't have said it, a lot of countries fit the description: corrupt 3rd world dictatorships, failed states, states where women are stoned to death, etc."

Even if some countries fit the description, why does that mean people from those countries should be prevented from coming here? Ireland was once considered a s$ithole country too, but that didn't prevent my ancestors from immigrating here.

#87 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-12 10:49 AM

#87 Trump's philosophy seems to be that s$ithole people come from s$ithole countries, and that is ultimately what makes his comments racist. He was born on 3rd base in this, according to him, once great country, and he has not sense of "there but for the grace of God, go I."

#88 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-12 10:53 AM

Recently we heard that Trump shouldn't deport Salvadorans because the country is basically ------". Well, they have the world's highest murder rate. Sounds like ------" to me.

#89 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-01-12 10:55 AM

Unless more of them start speaking up, Trump is going to turn the GOP into the s$ithole (racist) party. There is that.

#90 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-12 10:59 AM

"Hey, Donnerboy, the Statue of Liberty plaque bearing the poem "The New Colossus" ain't French, boy! "

And you are correct! I misspoke!

It was written by dang libby loving commie socialist French JEW and the white nationalist nationalists ALREADY want to rip it right off of there and throw it in the bay.

That poem is what has ruined America!

#91 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-12 11:01 AM

I think it's time to start being honest. The president is a piece of ----. The Republicans are doing nothing to stop him. If you are a Republican, you are also a piece of ----. It doesn't matter what you believe. It's like belonging to the Klan. No redeeming qualities you may possess could save you from the guilt of being associated with the group.

#56 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2018-01-11 10:53 PM | FLAG:

This post is exactly why Trump won. Many voted against Clinton just because bitter uninformed and miserable people like you supported her and guess what, people just didn't want to be associated with with you. It would have been like catching a virus. But go ahead and continue not talking about the issues, you can't anyway.

#92 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-01-12 11:02 AM

"How many times have they described red states as "s---holes"?
"How many times have I heard progressives"

How many said this while occupying the executive chair?

I see your argument. Ignorant lowlifes use this term at the bar so its ok for trump to use this term from the executive chair.

shame on all of you

#93 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-01-12 11:05 AM

This post is exactly why Trump won. Many voted against Clinton just because bitter uninformed and miserable people like you supported her and guess what, people just didn't want to be associated with with you. It would have been like catching a virus. But go ahead and continue not talking about the issues, you can't anyway.

Poppycock. I never heard one voter say, "I'm going to vote for Trump because I don't want to be associated with the 'bitter uninformed miserable people' who support Hillary. I just can't vote for her because it would be like catching a virus from her supporters."

#94 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-12 11:15 AM

"I see your argument."

With your alcohol induced limited vision? And the smoky haze in your teepee?

Doubtful.

#95 | Posted by eberly at 2018-01-12 11:29 AM

I disliked both major party candidates and I wasn't planning to vote. The only reason I actually voted was to cancel out a Drudge lefty. Since I'm from Wisconsin, my vote mattered more than most.

#96 | Posted by visitor_ at 2018-01-12 11:38 AM

#96 I do understand to the extent that I let the rabid Bernie bros color my perception of Bernie, which in retrospect, was a mistake because they did Bernie a disservice. Bernie was/is much better than them. All the Trump voters I know, members of my family, voted for Trump because they are Republicans, liked Trump, didn't like Hillary, or some combination of those things. None of them mentioned voting for Trump because they didn't like Clinton supporters, but then again, none of them follow politics online at places like this.

#97 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-12 11:52 AM


Until somebody pays me enough to run the place without ads, I have to live by their rules.

#19 | Posted by rcade

I told you 20 years ago to go to a pay to visit model.

#98 | Posted by boaz at 2018-01-12 11:54 AM

And to make matters even worse, most of the rabid Bernie bros probably weren't even real Bernie bros but Russian trolls and bots. The real Bernie Bros were just people who liked Bernie better than Hillary. Some of them were haters, but most of them weren't.

#99 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-12 11:56 AM

Well, did Trump lie? Are the countries he was talking about crap holes? Honestly?

#100 | Posted by boaz at 2018-01-12 11:57 AM

"Are the countries he was talking about crap holes?" - #100 | Posted by pfc. boazo at 2018-01-12 11:57 AM

Which one did you come from, pfc. boazo?

Honestly?

#101 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 11:58 AM

"Many voted against Clinton just because bitter uninformed and miserable people like you supported her and guess what, people just didn't want to be associated with with you." - #92 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-01-12 11:02 AM

More than 10,000,000 voted against Trump, including 3,000,000 more for Hillary Clinton.

#102 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 12:07 PM

--------. Love it

#103 | Posted by Bph320 at 2018-01-12 12:14 PM

"When you come to the most complex known object, the human brain, the idea that there is only one measure of intelligence had to be wrong. We can all think of people that have poor reasoning and brilliant memories, or fantastic language skills but aren't so hot at reasoning, and so on. Now once and for all we can say there is not a single measure such as IQ which captures all the intelligence that you see in people." www.telegraph.co.uk - This is an interesting article and valid point for debate. If this test which is still in research phase is eventually validated and could be standardized and implemented in immigration process it could help in making determinations. Many serial killers have exhibited abnormally high levels of iq but obviously low levels of awareness/empathy for others.

#104 | Posted by 7thSon at 2018-01-12 12:15 PM

Which one did you come from, pfc. boazo?

None of them Bitch ass Hans. I'm an American...

And I'm a mix of black and white, so my ancestors came from a lot of places..

#105 | Posted by boaz at 2018-01-12 12:25 PM

Hans, as expected Boaz doesn't get it.

#106 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-12 12:26 PM

Sh-thole? Sh-thole?!? My home this is!

--Yoda

#107 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-01-12 12:29 PM

More than 10,000,000 voted against Trump, including 3,000,000 more for Hillary Clinton.

#102 | POSTED BY HANS AT 2018-01-12 12:07 PM | FLAG:

So why isn't she the President? Having trouble with how the electoral system works here comrade? Ooops

#108 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-01-12 12:29 PM

as expected Boaz doesn't get it.

What? Han's point of view? No, I don't speak or understand idiot.

#109 | Posted by boaz at 2018-01-12 12:29 PM

as expected Boaz doesn't get it.
What? Han's point of view? No, I don't speak or understand idiot.
#109 | Posted by boaz

So, ignorant and proud of it. That's your answer.

#110 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-12 12:34 PM

"Having trouble with how the electoral system works here comrade?" - #108 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-01-12 12:29 PM

You were the one who invoked popular vote ("Many voted against Clinton...")...

...not me.

I just responded accordingly.

Oops.

#111 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 12:35 PM

"Hans, as expected Boaz doesn't get it." - #106 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-12 12:26 PM

He never has, Truth.

No reason why he shouldn't continue to not get it.

#112 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 12:36 PM

#5 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2018-01-11 05:52 PM
where were YOUR ancestors from, and when did they arrive here?
#40 | Posted by e1g1 at 2018-01-11 08:14 PM

Still waiting for your answer.

#113 | Posted by e1g1 at 2018-01-12 12:37 PM

I guess the racists like the lazy logic of Bill Murray:
www.youtube.com

#114 | Posted by e1g1 at 2018-01-12 12:38 PM

"And I'm a mix of black and white, so my ancestors came from a lot of places.." - #105 | Posted by pfc. boazo at 2018-01-12 12:25 PM

If you're part black then your ancestors came from one of Trump's described s***holes.

So, which one was it, pfc. boazo?

Which one did you come from, pfc. boazo?

Honestly?

#115 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 12:39 PM

What a ------ thing to say. ------- embarrassing.

#117 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-12 12:43 PM

"Once again you left out the most important part..." - #116 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-01-12 12:41 PM

Okay.

10,000,000 voted against Trump because they didn't want to be associated with morons like you.

And, speaking of morons...

Not sure how Hans knew what Boaz said on the Kennedy thread when Hans wasn't here but keep trying.

Posted by fishpaw at 2017-05-18 11:58 AM | Reply | Flagged newsworthy by gracieamazed

Then came the ridicule:
Might want to wash that info off, seeing as you pulled it from your bum, fish

Hans was clearly replying to Boaz (regarding the initial comment on Kennedy's death) who joined in 2005.

Reading is fundamental

#72 | Posted by RevDarko at 2017-05-18 11:37 AM

Fishpaw,

WTF are you babbling about. Hans has been here since before I have been here.

Joined 2005/06/16

#95 | Posted by bocaink at 2017-05-18 12:09 PM

Do you learn from Jeffy how to be wrong about everything or is the training vice-versa?

#98 | Posted by bocaink at 2017-05-18 12:11 PM

"Joined 2005/06/16"

Hilarious. Fishpaw thinks the above means someone joined in 2016. It must be difficult to be that stupid.

#106 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2017-05-18 12:34 PM

Yer mean that isn't the 2005th of June, 2016???

#107 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2017-05-18 12:35 PM

Q.E.D.

#118 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 12:44 PM

I don't know why people are complaining about censoring the headline.
No profanity is clearly spelled out on the moderation page.

#119 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-12 12:54 PM

"No profanity is clearly spelled out on the moderation page." - #119 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-12 12:54 PM

100% correct.

Our host even addressed it in his #19 in this thread.

#120 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 12:56 PM

#93 wins.
Righties are nothing but abusive snowflakes. sucks to be one, obviously.

#121 | Posted by ichiro at 2018-01-12 01:03 PM


Which one did you come from, pfc. boazo?
Honestly?

#115 | Posted by Hans

I am a direct descendant of slaves and a particular slave owner. The slave owner was from Ireland. The Slaves were from the Ivory Coast and Togo.

Why is one race more important than the other for me to say I'm "from"?

#122 | Posted by boaz at 2018-01-12 01:14 PM

"The Slaves were from the Ivory Coast and Togo." - #122 | Posted by pfc. boazo at 2018-01-12 01:14 PM

Or, as President IQ45 calls them, s***hole countries.

But I do find it somewhat endearing that you're trying your best to validate your president's observation.

#123 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 01:17 PM

Of course many of those countries are s**t holes - that is why the people want the hell out!

#124 | Posted by MSgt at 2018-01-12 01:22 PM

Hang on to this one as long as you can Hans, after Sunday's talk shows you won't hear about it again. But you will be clinging on to it for as long as possible like everything else in the past. Try moving forward

#125 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-01-12 01:26 PM

Truth is the truth Hans.

#126 | Posted by boaz at 2018-01-12 01:27 PM

"Wouldn't a country want to bring in inhabitants from countries which are listed as statistically safer and on average have higher iq's than ones own country. Its called stacking your team with the best players. "
OK, then most of Europe, Australia, CAnada, Japan, S. Korea and other places should reject Americans who want to travel there.
Donald Trump....the First ----------- President! Can't wait for his next opportunity to speak to an international group like the U.N. Trust me, he will not be warmly received. We have an ignorant, racist buffoon as President because Republicans got so good a stealing elections. This shame is on all Republicans, the one's who knew about the cheating and the also the one's who heard about it but wouldn't take it seriously.

#75 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2018-01-12 07:57 AM | FLAG:

And what happens when you go into these countries and ask for welfare and citizenship?

#127 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-01-12 01:29 PM

"Truth is the truth Hans." - #126 | Posted by pfc. boazo at 2018-01-12 01:27 PM

And sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, pfc. boazo.

#128 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 01:29 PM

"Hang on to this one as long as you can Hans, after Sunday's talk shows you won't hear about it again." - #125 | Posted by fishpaw at 2018-01-12 01:26 PM

That's because after Sunday's talk shows there will be some new outrage from President IQ45, if not sooner.

#129 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 01:32 PM

here in one of the wealthiest counties in the country, immigrants do all the work.
from Immokalee pickers to every supermarket where Haitians prepare food. wonderful people.

#130 | Posted by ichiro at 2018-01-12 01:36 PM

"Wouldn't a country want to bring in inhabitants from countries which are listed as statistically safer and on average have higher iq's than ones own country. Its called stacking your team with the best players."

UNAMERICAN.
whoever wrote that needs a thorough history education.

#131 | Posted by ichiro at 2018-01-12 01:44 PM

Now isn't this beginning to be fun (both from today's Axios.com):

"President Trump brought everyone to the table this week and listened to both sides. But regrettably, it seems that not everyone is committed to negotiating in good faith. In regards to Senator Durbin's accusation, we do not recall the President saying these comments specifically, but what he did call out was the imbalance in our current immigration system, which does not protect American workers and our national interest. We, along with the President, are committed to solving an issue many in Congress have failed to deliver on for decades." - Senators Tom Cotton and David Perdue
And now there's...
Sen. Tim Scott told the Post and Courier that Sen. Lindsey Graham confirmed Trump's "s***hole countries" comment to him. He added that Graham said reports of the remarks are "basically accurate."

Inside the room: Sen. Dick Durbin said Graham, who was in the Oval Office meeting on Thursday, "spoke up and made a direct comment on what the president said," which took "extraordinary political courage," per the Post and Courier.

I wonder if Cotton and/or Perdue will "walk back" their earlier declaration?

#132 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 01:52 PM

I told you 20 years ago to go to a pay to visit model.

I don't think a site like this could get enough subscriptions to fund its operation. There are too many other political message boards that are free.

#133 | Posted by rcade at 2018-01-12 01:58 PM

A reason often cited by so many Trump supporters for their ongoing support of Trump is that he says what he means. You don't have to interpret his statements for any deeper suggestions or nuances. He says exactly what he means. Unfortunately, in this case he is proudly flying his racist banner in the world's face.

#134 | Posted by moder8 at 2018-01-12 02:04 PM

Trump has changed things.

Before yesterday, if you Googled 'Trump' and '--------', all you got was hotel reviews.

#135 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2018-01-12 02:12 PM

#135

lmao... thanks, Lee!

#136 | Posted by Corky at 2018-01-12 02:24 PM

"Wouldn't a country want to bring in inhabitants from countries which are listed as statistically safer and on average have higher iq's."

No, that's dumb.

What we want is the actusl people with those attributes.

Not just any old person from Norway.

What if Norway decides to send their rapists and drug dealers, like Mexico does?

Im sure you can understand why it makes more sense to judge the individual on their own merits, not just the average of whatever country they're from.

#137 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-12 02:42 PM

So being from another country equals being from another race? Thats my take back from this discussion i did not read through....

#138 | Posted by mutant at 2018-01-12 02:47 PM

Where is the article about CNN'S MUDD slinging the n word to Lemon about this poophole comment?

#139 | Posted by mutant at 2018-01-12 02:58 PM

It's depressing how Trump's base acts like there's room to debate whether what he said is acceptable.

If he had said something like, "Many of the people wanting to immigrate to the United States come from nations with dysfunctional governments, mired in corruption, poverty and economic turmoil," there would not be this uproar. Then he could have followed this with "And that's understandable. After all, we are a nation of immigrants, and America is a great nation, with much to offer. But there are legitimate issues about the impact such large numbers of immigrants have on our own country."

Then we could at least have a civilized debate.

But for the leader and chief representative of America to cavalierly refer to entire nations -- which are made up of actual human beings just like you and me, yearning to breathe free -- as sh*tholes is extremely distasteful. Stop pretending it's not. Words matter.

#140 | Posted by cbob at 2018-01-12 03:14 PM

Familiar with american history and the ebb and flow of immigration policies alternating between the lax and restrictive eras. However, The current entitlement crisis and welfare statistics published by the department of commerce needs to be taken into consideration and up for logical and well reasoned debate. Immigration is indeed good thing unless its going to tax an already burdened system or the money is going to be simply shipped back home to families in underdeveloped nations. Give a man a Fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime. Simply bringing people en masse from underdeveloped nations here does nothing to help those nations. Ideally wealthier developed nations become more generous in lending money, resources and talent in helping these nations improve their conditions but simply shipping people over here based on emotion based reasoning (ie virtue signaling, moral outrage and emotional blackmail) isn't sound.
www.washingtonpost.com

www.cato.org

www.dailymail.co.uk

#141 | Posted by 7thSon at 2018-01-12 03:25 PM

Cbob,

"Then we could at least have a civilized debate."

A civilized debate would include not automatically calling people racist.

Believing America needs to be more selective who is allowed to come here isn't necessarily racist.

#142 | Posted by Billjohnson at 2018-01-12 03:32 PM

#142 | Posted by Billjohnson at 2018-01-12 03:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Too late. Trump made a comment that was clearly racist. You don't have to say "Black people are inferior" for your words to be racist.

#143 | Posted by cbob at 2018-01-12 03:43 PM

Cbob,

Not that you did.

Just read through the rest of this thread.

#144 | Posted by Billjohnson at 2018-01-12 03:43 PM

Cbob,

"Clearly racist"

So much for having a "civilized debate".

#145 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2018-01-12 03:49 PM

A civilized debate would include not automatically calling people racist.

Since you object to Trump being called a racist, would you prefer he be called a bigot, hatemonger or Nazi?

#146 | Posted by rcade at 2018-01-12 03:53 PM

Rogers,

Trump made a true statement. The left is only trying to shut up otherwise true statements by making it PC to not say them.

#147 | Posted by boaz at 2018-01-12 04:06 PM

A civilized debate would include not automatically calling people racist.
Believing America needs to be more selective who is allowed to come here isn't necessarily racist.
#142 | Posted by Billjohnson

Condemning individuals based on where they come from IS racism.

#150 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-12 04:14 PM

"Trump made a true statement." - #147 | Posted by pfc. boazo at 2018-01-12 04:06 PM

Well, now, pfc. boazo, there's your problem:

It wasn't true.

It was rude, objectionable, unworthy of a president...

...but it wasn't true.

Oh, and no one would ever confuse you as someone whose ancestors came from Ireland.

Now that's a true statement.

#151 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 04:14 PM

No one condemned the individuals, just the conditions of their home country..

#152 | Posted by boaz at 2018-01-12 04:23 PM

And BTW,

I do think he should have said it differently. It does sound bad. I will admit that.

#153 | Posted by boaz at 2018-01-12 04:25 PM

"No one condemned the individuals, just the conditions of their home country.." - #152 | Posted by pfc. boazo at 2018-01-12 04:23 PM

First, the problem is not just that Trump called these countries bad; it's that Trump suggested these countries' people are all bad.

Read Trump's reported comments, which he reportedly made during bipartisan talks about immigration reform in the context of Haiti and African nations: "Why are we having all these people from s***hole countries come here?"

Trump is not just saying that Haiti and African countries are s***holes. He's indicating that the (predominantly black) people from these countries are themselves bad -- to the point that the US should not accept them as immigrants.

Then consider Trump's point of comparison. After he raised his question, Trump reportedly suggested that America should take more people from "countries like Norway." This is his remark about African countries and Haiti in reverse, explicitly singling out predominantly white nations as favorable.

Characterizing not just a nation but its people as inherently bad is prejudice, pure and simple. This is so widely accepted that it's actually illegal to discriminate against workers and tenants based on national origin under federal law.

source

Typical pfc. boazo: Just as stupid as President IQ45.

#154 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 04:27 PM

"I do think he should have said it differently. It does sound bad. I will admit that." - #153 | Posted by pfc. boazo at 2018-01-12 04:25 PM

That's mighty white of you, pfc. boazo.

#155 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 04:28 PM

"No one condemned the individuals, just the conditions of their home country.." - #152 | Posted by pfc. boazo at 2018-01-12 04:23 PM

Trump derides protections for immigrants from ‘s***hole' countries

[snip] "Why do we need more Haitians?" Trump said, according to people familiar with the meeting. "Take them out."

Take "them" out?

Oops.

#156 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 04:33 PM

No one condemned the individuals, just the conditions of their home country..
#152 | Posted by boaz

Trump did, he characterized individuals by where they came from and said we shouldn't take them.

#157 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-12 04:42 PM

I hope Mia Love maked Trump eat his words.

#158 | Posted by Tor at 2018-01-12 04:49 PM

The thing that surprises me the most about this latest faux pas is not that it makes Trump sound racist; for me that's now a given and is part of his appeal to his base, who just see it as " telling it like it is."

What I find truly surprising is that a stable genius has still not worked out that everything he says ends up in the public domain. For a genius, he is very slow and wickedly naive. He has shot himself in the foot so often I'm surprised he can stand up.

#159 | Posted by Foreigner at 2018-01-12 04:49 PM

So why isn't she the President? Having trouble with how the electoral system works here comrade? Ooops

#108 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

She isn't president because individual votes from -------- states are worth more than ones from other states.

I am assuming that it is now OK to use the term -------- to describe places since our commander in chief and leader of the Republican party did it.

And it is clear that those states are "--------" FROM the electoral system. The electoral system gives preference to states with small populations. So, it is obvious that people don't want to live there. Probably (not my personal opinion, but assumptions based upon the arhuments in this thread) because they are poor, violent, and stupid.

#160 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2018-01-12 04:53 PM

"I've been called a bigot on this site so many times, obviously the bar is low."

Here is a idea.

If you don't want to be called a bigot then don't act like one.

EZ PZ!!!

#161 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-12 05:08 PM

You don't always have to "speak your mind" or "tell it like it is." It's often better to listen and to learn, and when you do speak, to do so with tact and caution. Insults not only sadden or infuriate your target, they also rarely accomplish your objective -- unless your objective is merely to salve your low self-esteem.

#162 | Posted by cbob at 2018-01-12 05:25 PM

Hows about we call them people from deplorable countries.

Is north korea a -------- or is it best korea?

A clinton presidency would have been boring and not so profitable for the fake news providers.

#163 | Posted by mutant at 2018-01-12 05:38 PM

Is north korea a -------- or is it best korea?

What does that have to do with anything Comrade?

How many immigrants do we get from North Korea?

#164 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-12 05:42 PM

"Believing America needs to be more selective who is allowed to come here isn't necessarily racist."

BillJohnson:
It isn't necessarily not racist either.
But Trump's comment, was it racist or not?

#165 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-01-12 06:18 PM

"Hows about we call them people from deplorable countries." - #163 | Posted by mutant at 2018-01-12 05:38 PM

Wouldn't work.

I don't think that these people would like that.

#166 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 06:29 PM

"Believing America needs to be more selective who is allowed to come here isn't necessarily racist."

Um, yes, it does. Watch this:

Rick Wilson Shreds Radio Host in Vicious ‘Sh*thole' Debate: ‘I Will Gut You Like a Fish'

www.mediaite.com

#167 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-12 06:54 PM

Haiti was nice when we disembarked onto the cruiselines own private peninsula....

Unseen parts seem adventurously deplorable according to facts! and the current expected american SOL we all love and wont move to cananda regardless....

www.cia.gov

Perhaps trump should make the europeans pay for the pitiful poopholes they left the carribean.

#168 | Posted by mutant at 2018-01-12 07:40 PM

I wonder if the dotard knows that right next door to the north we are training, coaching and harboring North Korean athletes so they can whup some --- in upcomin snow olympics!

#169 | Posted by ghoti at 2018-01-12 08:19 PM

What can he possibly say that won't offend?

He might as well say what he means since anything Trump says will offend anyway.

How can Trump possibly describe these countries that are mostly undesirables where liberals won't complain?

#170 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2018-01-12 09:29 PM

"What can he possibly say that won't offend?" - #170 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2018-01-12 09:29 PM

Everything he says ends up offending.

Why do you care?

What's your investment in excusing a bigot and racist?

Too close to home?

#171 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 09:44 PM

I agree with Boaz.

Trump could have found a better way to explain himself but the fact remains not every one should be allowed in America.

#172 | Posted by Billjohnson at 2018-01-12 09:45 PM

"...but the fact remains not every one should be allowed in America." - #172 | Posted by Billjohnson at 2018-01-12 09:45 PM

Starting with you and pfc. boazo.

#173 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 09:47 PM

I agree with Boaz.

I, for one, am shocked.

#174 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-01-12 09:47 PM

Hans,

Liberals use the words bigot and racist so often they are rapidly becoming the boy who cried wolf.

Their opinions hold little value to me.

#175 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2018-01-12 09:49 PM

I know am bigoted and racist at times and I know liberals are too.

Get over yourself.

#176 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2018-01-12 09:51 PM

"...they are rapidly becoming the boy who cried wolf." - #175 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2018-01-12 09:49 PM

Not really.

"Their opinions hold little value to me."

Interestingly enough, that's slightly more value than liberals hold for your opinions.

Aren't we blessed.

#177 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 09:53 PM

"I know am bigoted and racist at times..." - #176 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2018-01-12 09:51 PM

As it turns out, "at times" seems to be "all the time."

Meanwhile, get over yourself.

#178 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-12 09:55 PM

"I know am bigoted and racist at times and I know liberals are too."

Do you know that Trump and conservatives are too?

#179 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-12 10:07 PM

Hans,

I've known many liberals and conservatives in my life.

As I've grown older I've decided liberals are fooling themselves and each other the way they conduct their lives.

Conservatives have their faults but I prefer the honesty of conservatives.

#180 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2018-01-12 10:10 PM

Gal,

I used to see liberals as intellectually a step ahead of much of society.

But now liberals are becoming narrow-minded and bound by politics.

Desperately trying to remain relevant in a world where their ideas haven't evolved and just aren't solving anything.

More interested in power than people.

#181 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2018-01-12 10:23 PM

#180 - It's called "confirmation bias" - and it's no surprise you find comfort with such people.

#182 | Posted by YAV at 2018-01-12 10:25 PM

#181 You didn't answer my question:

"I know am bigoted and racist at times and I know liberals are too."

Do you know that Trump and conservatives are too?

#183 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2018-01-12 10:58 PM

#180. Bill

Anecdotal evidence is just that.

Here's my anecdote: Between a huge family and a nice number of friends and acquaintances, my circle of people span nearly the entire political spectrum. I have found no correlation between character, integrity, grasp on reality or whatever.

#184 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-12 11:18 PM

Jeff,

"Anecdotal evidence is just that."

Friends and a huge family influence your ability to view things objectively.

I'm sure you don't want to offend anyone.

Frankly, I have my doubts you have the slightest clue about your own personal beliefs.

#185 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2018-01-13 12:23 AM

Bill,

I'm 46 years old and have seen a few things. I've encountered amazing people. Ive encountered horrible people.

I don't care what you think about me.

If you guage character based upon personal politics it is YOU who doesn't have a clue regarding your personal beliefs unless you recognize your own personal prejudices.

#186 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-13 12:33 AM

Sh***hole was brutally honest not racist.

#187 | Posted by patron at 2018-01-13 08:43 AM

"Sh***hole was brutally honest not racist."

You probably actually believe that because you are a racist. what you are actually trying to pretend is that it is ok to be a racist. It's not.

#188 | Posted by danni at 2018-01-13 09:14 AM

""I know am bigoted and racist at times and I know liberals are too."

Possibly true but liberals know it is wrong and strive to root out any racist tendencies that may lie hidden in their character. And then we act accordingly. Conservatives try to justify their racist beliefs and use anecdotal evidence to support them. I've lived around red necks most of my life, I have them in my family. Their prejudices are there to support their sense of entitlement but they would be the last folks on Earth to ever admit it.

#189 | Posted by danni at 2018-01-13 09:18 AM

You probably actually believe that because you are racist.

Thank you

#190 | Posted by patron at 2018-01-13 09:35 AM

Bill Johnson,

Your posts on this thread are depressingly tone-deaf. Have you seen the worldwide condemnation of Trump's remarks? Are all these millions of people here and in other countries simply out-of-touch liberals? Is Mia Love a liberal?

The constant need to explain away the crazy things Trump says, telling the rest of us that, gosh, he only meant this or that, and he means well, is proof that he is crass and disgusting, not to mention being in way over his head. He is unfit to serve as our president.

#191 | Posted by cbob at 2018-01-13 12:47 PM

I've known many liberals and conservatives in my life." - #180 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2018-01-12 10:10 PM

And, no doubt, some of your best friends are Negroes.

"Conservatives have their faults but I prefer the honesty of conservatives."

#192 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-14 09:55 AM

... most of the rabid Bernie bros probably weren't even real Bernie bros but Russian trolls and bots. The real Bernie Bros were just people who liked Bernie better than Hillary. Some of them were haters, but most of them weren't.

#99 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Very well said !!!

#193 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-01-14 04:18 PM

Advertisers won't support sites like this one if they contain profanity. Until somebody pays me enough to run the place without ads, I have to live by their rules.

#19 | POSTED BY RCADE

Ah, I see.

Well, using "porn" and "Trump" in the same sentence is more than good enough -- at least for me.

#194 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-01-14 04:24 PM

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