Wednesday, January 10, 2018

Teacher Arrested for Questioning School Board

A teacher asking tough questions of school board members in the Vermilion Parish School District in Louisiana was escorted out of the meeting by security officers and handcuffed on the floor and arrested, videos of the event show. Deyshia Hargrave, an English language-arts teacher at Rene Rost Middle School, asked board members Monday night why they were planning to vote to give Superintendent Jerome Puyau a raise when teachers had not had a pay increase in years. The meeting and arrest were videotaped by a crew from KATC-TV, as well as by someone else who was present,

Comments

Teachers are heroes and this lady is a rock star!

#1 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-09 06:53 PM

Education system down south is a joke. I have a friend who is an ROTC instructor in SC. Administration and ROTC make good money but screw the other teachers - administration in particular. We have talked about it enough. I mean experienced teachers with years of experience barely making a living wage and certainly not enough to pay for a college education...

#2 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-01-09 07:41 PM

Teachers are heroes and this lady is a rock star!

#1 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-09 06:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

Especially the ones who put up with me back in the day.

#3 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-01-09 08:16 PM

any Marine Corps commandant will plead: pay your teachers well, educate your children above all else, this is surest path of peace.

#4 | Posted by ichiro at 2018-01-09 11:30 PM

Welcome to our police State.

#5 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-01-10 07:06 AM

People in power often fail to think about the backlash when they act in an authoritarian manner. Payback can be cruel.

#6 | Posted by cbob at 2018-01-10 09:44 AM

My area has the same issues, lots of administrators and Superintendents making lots of money, and the teachers get the dirty end of the stick, for peanuts. Then the school board ask for more and more money. Good for her for speaking up.

#7 | Posted by PinkyanTheBrain at 2018-01-10 10:01 AM

Well it is Louisiana after all.

Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up!

Then

Pay her off! Pay her off! Pay her off!

Is there a go fund me site yet?

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-10 10:18 AM

Louisiana, no surprise.
It would be the same outcome in Texas if a teacher actually *clutch pearls* DARE ask why the head football coach should get over twice the salary of a real classroom teacher.

#9 | Posted by e1g1 at 2018-01-10 10:24 AM

So, how much will she get when she sues? Lawyers are probably lining up at her front door right now. Will the dumb ass who arrested be fired?

#10 | Posted by danni at 2018-01-10 10:24 AM

Also, what Pinky said is true here in Broward County too. Too many administrators earning $100K+

#11 | Posted by danni at 2018-01-10 10:28 AM

She was warned.

But she persisted!

Her reward will be an offer to teach elsewhere for more $$$.

#12 | Posted by 88120rob at 2018-01-10 10:30 AM

Strange. I don't remember there being a power to arrest someone and manhandle them like a sack of potatoes when they have the floor in Robert's Rules of Order. Must be in the revised edition.

#13 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-01-10 10:44 AM

Teachers are heroes and this lady is a rock star!

#1 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Wrong. They are the enemy of the state and way overpaid.

-Republicans

#14 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-10 10:53 AM

While the right wing would have you believe that the expensive part of schools is union teachers, the truth is that the administration staff outnumbers the teachers in most districts, are non-union, and usually get paid much more.

But go ahead and blame the teacher getting $50K for our economic problems and ignore the superintendant getting $300K, a free car, and an expense account.

Virginia is the worst offender where non-teaching staff outnumber teachers by 60,737

www.educationdive.com

#15 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-01-10 11:11 AM

So, how much will she get when she sues? Lawyers are probably lining up at her front door right now. Will the dumb ass who arrested be fired? - #10 | Posted by Danni at 2018-01-10 10:24 AM
What is it that you think the officer did that was wrong, and do you have any evidence of it?

I don't remember there being a power to arrest someone and manhandle them like a sack of potatoes when they have the floor in Robert's Rules of Order. Must be in the revised edition. - #13 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-01-10 10:44 AM
She didn't have the floor. She had already been escorted from the meeting room before whatever happened (that wasn't recorded) happened that lead to her arrest.

I realize that the headline is another trolling example of click-bait, and a lie, but did you all not even read the article that you're commenting on?

"The video does not show what happened immediately after the two got into the hallway but she can be seen on the floor, being handcuffed. She was then arrested. According to KATC, she was booked into the city jail on charges that included resisting an officer. "

#16 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-10 11:25 AM

Actually she did have the floor.

#17 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-10 11:27 AM

Hey GoatVigDore, read this:

"Hargrave was called upon a second time for comment. Again, she asked board members how they could raise the salary of the superintendent when teachers and students did the work in the classroom, again noting that educators were not getting pay increases.

Then, a security officer from the marshal's office in Abbeville, La., walked up to Hargrave and asked her to leave repeatedly. They argued and at one point, the officer put his hand on Hargrave's arm. She pulled back and soon left."

#18 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-01-10 11:30 AM

"She didn't have the floor." - #16 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-10 11:25 AM

When all else fails, lie.

Did you not even read the article that you're commenting on?

#19 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-10 11:33 AM

at one point, the officer put his hand on Hargrave's arm. She pulled back and soon left."

#18 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-0

I guess from one maggot point of view this is resisting arrest.

The original "crime" remains telling a truth.

#20 | Posted by Zed at 2018-01-10 11:34 AM

Actually she did have the floor. - #17 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-10 11:27 AM
The article states that "She pulled back and soon left." The video shows her leaving. But I suppose you'll just continue to go with your imagination.

The claim was the she had the floor when she was arrested. "arrest someone and manhandle them like a sack of potatoes when they have the floor "
She was arrested when they were out in the hallway. She absolutely did not have the floor at that time. Did you watch the video? Or read the article? Or the quote that I posted for you?

#21 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-10 11:44 AM

She pulled back and soon left." - #18 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-01-10 11:30 AM
Thanks for backing up my assertion that she did not have the floor when she was arrested.

#22 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-10 11:48 AM

Did they taze her? I love a good tazing.....

#24 | Posted by eberly at 2018-01-10 12:12 PM

"Did they taze her? I love a good tazing....." - #24 | Posted by eberly at 2018-01-10 12:12 PM

Eb, you're channeling Chairborne101. ;-)

#25 | Posted by Hans at 2018-01-10 12:13 PM

""Hargrave was called upon a second time for comment. Again, she asked board members how they could raise the salary of the superintendent when teachers and students did the work in the classroom, again noting that educators were not getting pay increases."

And that was her "crime."

#26 | Posted by danni at 2018-01-10 12:17 PM

Well, on the bright side, she should feel lucky they didn't rape her in public by fingering her vagina looking for drugs.

reason.com

#27 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-01-10 12:19 PM

"She absolutely did not have the floor at that time."

She had the floor when she was approached and an attempt was made to restraint her. She left the floor and was arrested.

Comrade, this is NOT Russia.

So it does NOT make it ok no matter where she was "technically" arrested.

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-10 12:25 PM

So it does NOT make it ok no matter where she was "technically" arrested. - #28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-01-10 12:25 PM

I never claimed that it was right. I attempted to inform madscientist about his mistakenly believing that she had the floor while being arrested.

#29 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-10 01:53 PM

Actually she did have the floor. - #17 | Posted by truthhurts at 2018-01-10 11:27 AM
The article states that "She pulled back and soon left." The video shows her leaving. But I suppose you'll just continue to go with your imagination.
The claim was the she had the floor when she was arrested. "arrest someone and manhandle them like a sack of potatoes when they have the floor "
She was arrested when they were out in the hallway. She absolutely did not have the floor at that time. Did you watch the video? Or read the article? Or the quote that I posted for you?
#21 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

She was told to leave by security when she had the floor. Besides leaving, she did nothing else. Then she was arrested. They asked her to leave so they could arrest her in the hallway. Sorry, Truthhurts lives up to his name on this one.

#30 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-10 03:33 PM

She deserved to be removed. It's unfortunate they didn't rough her up in the process. Hopefully her wrists got a bit chaffed from the cuffs.

#31 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-01-10 03:35 PM

Besides leaving, she did nothing else. Then she was arrested. They asked her to leave so they could arrest her in the hallway. - #30 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-01-10 03:33 PM

Do you have any citation or proof of that? The video doesn't show what, if anything, happened between her beginning to depart and ending up on the floor. Even if true, she still didn't have the floor when she was placed under arrest, out in the hallway, as the article states.
"the two got into the hallway but she can be seen on the floor, being handcuffed. She was then arrested. "
Really, you all are arguing against the facts presented in the article with nothing to back your claim.

#32 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-10 04:44 PM

Robert's Rules of Order, Part 1, Section 3, Subsection 3:

After a member has been assigned the floor he cannot be interrupted by a member or the chairman, except by (a) a motion to reconsider; (b) a point of order; an objection to the consideration of the question; (d) a call for the orders of the day when they are not being conformed to; (e) a question of privilege; (f) a request or demand that the question be divided when it consists of more than one independent resolution on different subjects; or (g) a parliamentary inquiry or a request for information that requires immediate answer; and these cannot interrupt him after he has actually commenced speaking unless the urgency is so great as to justify it. The speaker (that is, the member entitled to the floor) does not lose his right to the floor by these interruptions, and the interrupting member does not obtain the floor thereby, and after they have been attended to, the chair assigns him the floor again. So when a member submitting a report from a committee or offering a resolution, hands it to the secretary to be read, he does not thereby yield his right to the floor. When the reading is finished and the chair states the question, neither the secretary nor any one else can make a motion until the member submitting the report, or offering the resolution, has had a reasonable opportunity to claim the floor to which he is entitled, and has not availed himself of his privilege. If, when he submitted the report, he made no motion to accept or adopt the recommendations or resolutions, he should resume the floor as soon as the report is read, and make the proper motion to carry out the recommendations, after which he is entitled to the floor for debate as soon as the question is stated.

Ref: www.robertsrules.org

#33 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-01-10 04:56 PM

Robert's Rules of Order, Part 1, Section 3, Subsection 3:

Obtaining the Floor. Before a member call make a motion, or address the assembly in debate, it is necessary that he should obtain the floor -- that is, he must rise after the floor has been yielded, and address the presiding officer by his official title, thus, "Mr. Chairman," or "Mr. President," or "Mr. Moderator;"1 or, if a woman (married or single), "Madam Chairman," or "Madam President." If the assembly is large so that the member's name may be unknown to the chairman, the member should give his name as soon as he catches the eye of the chairman after addressing him. If the member is entitled to the floor, as shown hereafter, the chairman "recognizes" him, or assigns him the floor, by announcing his name.

By those rules she could never claim the floor, not being a member of the public, not the school board.

#34 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-10 05:17 PM

scratch that first 'not'

#35 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-01-10 05:17 PM

She was called upon by the board, the tone of her comments and questions was extremely fair and reasonable, the officer took it upon himself to act out. Even the woman on the board commented no man was ever treated that way in that room.

#36 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-01-10 07:06 PM

Why didn't everyone in disagreement just protest and stop the officer from taking action?

Seen it done a thousand times over the course of the last year.

#37 | Posted by HeuristicGratis at 2018-01-11 05:32 AM

Just read it was the school board President Anthony Fontana who sent the officer to silence her. He needs to be severely reprimanded or fired. Use of force to silence criticism is tyranny.

Also, the super was given a $30k a year pay increase to $140k per year. LA has one of the most corrupt political systems in America so I'm not surprised. I hope he gets fired as well.

#38 | Posted by gavaster at 2018-01-11 07:55 AM

she deserved it, natural instinct and all.
boaz

#39 | Posted by cjk85 at 2018-01-11 01:36 PM

"She deserved to be removed."

Yes, because how dare she challenge the raise given to the superintendent. What nerve. Who does she think she is? A citizen?
The morons posting here in defense of her treatment are quite laughable jokes. AVIGDORE give it up, no one takes anything you post seriously any more. Hilarious!

#40 | Posted by danni at 2018-01-12 06:42 AM

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