Wednesday, December 27, 2017

Obama urges you to get out of your information cocoon

"One of the dangers of the Internet is that people can have entirely different realities, they can be just cocooned in information that reinforces their current biases."

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Obama said in the interview broadcast on Wednesday that social media should promote diverse views in a way that "doesn't lead to a Balkanisation of our society" and moving online communities offline helped people to see that many issues were not as simple as they might seem in a chatroom.

"It's also by the way harder to be as obnoxious and cruel in person as people can be anonymously on the Internet," he said.

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"It's also by the way harder to be as obnoxious and cruel in person as people can be anonymously on the Internet," he said.

Like conservatives not getting out of their cocoon when it comes to understanding healthcare, like not knowing the ACA and Obamacare are the same thing -- and absent-mindedly believing the moronic Republican talking points about "socialized healthcare" and death panels.

#1 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2017-12-27 09:28 AM

"One of the dangers of the Internet is that people can have entirely different realities, they can be just cocooned in information that reinforces their current biases."

Like stupidly taking phrases "don't drop the soap" and a widely well-known phrase from a popular movie (Office Space) way out of context to try and push a moronic irrelevant point.

#2 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2017-12-27 09:33 AM

@ Sitzkreig
@ AviDope

You're making the over-thinking-liberal type argument that often doesn't serve liberals well.

You need to take the sum total of what's going on to coherently understand what's going on ...

I get much of my political information from former Republicans like Mike Smerconish and Mike Lofgren.

The reason I often defend liberal argued topics is the same reason Smerconish and Lofgren often do ... liberals and Democrats are at least sane, while conservatives and Republicans are totally insane (and have been so for a long time)...

Until you both agree that conservative and Republican politics are much worse than ANYTHING offered by liberals and Democrats, you'll always be on the wrong side of the argument.

And, Obama was also talking about the things I've spelled out, no matter how hard you guys lamely try and aim Obama's words at liberals and Democrats.

#8 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2017-12-27 11:30 AM

I get much of my political information from former Republicans

#8 | POSTED BY PINCHALOAF AT 2017-12-27 11:30 AM | FLAG:

You have my sympathy.

#10 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-12-27 11:59 AM

The Retort has 186 members who have declared their party affiliation.

None: 58 (31.18%)
Independent: 52 (27.96%)
Democrat: 33 (17.74%)
Republican: 17 (9.14%)
Other: 16 (8.6%)
Libertarian: 7 (3.76%)
Green: 3 (1.61%)

Some echo chamber. It may have been originally when it was Red Meat for Yellow Dogs, but not now.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-27 12:05 PM

#16

Awwww..... poor mistreated baby! Just because GW and Trump have driven any self-respecting "conservatives" underground and left us with mostly alt righters doesn't mean that there aren't a lot of rwing posters here.

The nearly 60 percent Indie or None are not all lefties. If you think this is still just an echo chamber for the Left, then you obviously don't know what that phrase means.

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-27 12:28 PM

One of the dangers of the Internet is that people can have entirely different realities...

Oh yeah ho? Well, cash me outside ow bot dah?

#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-12-27 01:22 PM

what the hell happened to this thread?

#22 | Posted by eberly at 2017-12-27 05:54 PM

what the hell happened to this thread?

#22 | Posted by eberly at 2017-12-27 05:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

As Charles Manson would say. It went Poof.

#23 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-12-27 05:55 PM

I thought it was a decent conversation, despite corky's presence.

maybe that's what happened......did he start crying and everything start getting deleted?

I addressed him over the echo chamber thing but it wasn't hostile.

Is that a taboo subject now? is that too close to talking about moderation?

#24 | Posted by eberly at 2017-12-27 05:58 PM

- did he start crying

That was eye bleed from your lame posts.

#25 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-27 06:25 PM

This is what happens when you're around, cork.

#26 | Posted by eberly at 2017-12-27 06:44 PM

#26

Very creative post... for you.

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-27 07:07 PM

You have my sympathy.

#10 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

I can admit that I walked into that one ...

While I don't agree with everything they say, I stand by what I said about listening to what reformed conservatives like Smerconish and Lofgren have to say. But it's not just those two, Tim Farley on sirius/xm radio (POTUS news channel) does a tremendous job at keeping both sides honest as he interviews members of Congress and partisan policy types.

Eisenhower style Republicanism (sans Iran and Guatemala) is what's missing from our national politics. Ike balanced the budget while strengthening New Deal policies while building America's modern infrastructure -- by today's standards, Ike is God.

But moderate Republicans like Eisenhower are an extinct species, and buying into Trumpism and today's GOP is like rooting for Adolph and the Taliban.

So there you go, I happily voted for Hillary and I'll never shy away from saying that out loud. And in today's polarized political climate it's the liberals and the Democrats who make the rational arguments.

#28 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2017-12-28 03:47 AM

But moderate Republicans like Eisenhower are an extinct species

Moderate Democrats like Kennedy are an extinct species as well..

All we have left are dumbasses like you..

#29 | Posted by boaz at 2017-12-28 03:32 PM

"Moderate Democrats like Kennedy are an extinct species as well.."

Kennedy was not a "moderate Democrat" in his time at all as your ability to vote, live where you want, send your kids to the same public schools as white kids, etc. proves. In his time John Kennedy was considered to be a radical in most of the South.

#30 | Posted by danni at 2017-12-29 08:24 AM

Moderate Democrats like Kennedy are an extinct species as well..

All we have left are dumbasses like you..

#29 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Ted Kennedy was a liberal Democrat of the highest order ... he was not a moderate.

#31 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2017-12-29 08:47 AM

I remember Obama said similar things to this before he left office, directed at both sides. Naturally, the extremes on neither side would listen.

#32 | Posted by sentinel at 2017-12-29 09:28 PM

"In his time John Kennedy was considered to be a radical in most of the South."

That's the bar you're using?

#33 | Posted by sentinel at 2017-12-29 10:22 PM

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