Friday, December 15, 2017

NHL Player's Wife: Trump Harassed Me in Elevator

Stacia Robitaille, wife of hockey Hall of Famer Luc Robitaille, claimed Monday that U.S. President Donald Trump once made "aggressive" advances toward her in an elevator at Madison Square Garden. Robitaille tweeted that the encounter with Trump occurred while her husband was playing for the New York Rangers during the mid-1990s. She said Trump was with another man when the alleged incident took place. Her husband is the current president of business operations for the Los Angeles Kings, the franchise he starred with and where he played 14 of his 19 NHL seasons. Robitaille's claim of the unwanted advances come a day after three women who had previously accused Trump of sexual harassment reiterated their allegations on NBC's Megyn Kelly Today. On Tuesday, Trump tweeted he was being targeted with "false accusations and fabricated stories of women who I don't know and/or have never met."

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#1 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2017-12-13 08:13 PM

It's different because tax cuts are involved.

#2 | Posted by 726 at 2017-12-14 11:18 AM

He needs 5 minutes "alone time" with old Luc and I'll bet Lord Dampnut never/wont be able to touch another lady kitty again !

#3 | Posted by ghoti at 2017-12-14 03:07 PM

I'm sure he'll resign now that it's 20 women accusers, right?

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-14 03:16 PM

#3 Put that on pay to view and we could balance the budget.

#5 | Posted by bored at 2017-12-14 09:09 PM

Pretend this is not about Trump. Is every pass sexual harassment? How do you have sex if you don't flirt or ask for it? I'm really curious how this is supposed to work.

#6 | Posted by visitor_ at 2017-12-16 08:58 AM

Well, visitor_, here is your first clue...
Don't aggressively approach women who don't know you in an elevator and insist that they will be coming home with you.
You're welcome.

#7 | Posted by woe_is_W at 2017-12-16 09:53 AM

#6

You have sex by marrying a nice girl.

You're welcome.

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2017-12-16 10:05 AM

Girls, nice or otherwise prefer 'agressive' men. Trump knows that women are hypergamous and he uses that. The shy guy in the room goes home alone.

#9 | Posted by visitor_ at 2017-12-16 11:17 AM

#9

You are so full of ----.

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2017-12-16 11:22 AM

#9

Donald Trump needs to stick to his own wife and leave the wives of other men alone.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2017-12-16 11:25 AM

#9

Let me guess: You're going to make the liberal explain conservative values to you here, am I right?

#12 | Posted by Zed at 2017-12-16 11:30 AM

Passively waiting for the female to make the first move may work for Don Draper and you Zed, the rest of us have to ask. If that's harassment, too bad.

#13 | Posted by visitor_ at 2017-12-16 12:03 PM

If that's harassment, too bad.

That attitude might be part of the problem.

#14 | Posted by REDIAL at 2017-12-16 12:14 PM

Misogynists are often the last to know that they are, and definitely the last to care.

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-16 12:20 PM

Visitor, there's a difference between ASKING a woman if you can buy her a drink, or ASKING if she minds if you take the seat next to her, and doing what Drumpf does. He TELLS them what's going to happen. Even after she rebuffed him, he still continued to move on her like a bitch. The more of his technique I see on display, the more likely I am to believe the Russian hookers pee tape story. For Drumpf it always comes down to money. You know the type of women who sleep with men for money? HOOKERS! Hear that Melania?

#16 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2017-12-16 01:18 PM

"Passively waiting for the female to make the first move may work for Don Draper and you Zed, the rest of us have to ask"

Listen, -------:
Donald didn't "ask."
He "moved on her like a bitch."

Though, I would not be surprised if you and the rest of the Trump supporters really don't know the difference.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-16 01:23 PM

Apparently, talking to a woman, flirting, asking her out are all forms of harassment. But only when Trump does it.

#18 | Posted by visitor_ at 2017-12-16 01:27 PM

Listen, -------:

Oooomm! You said a nasty!

#19 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2017-12-16 01:28 PM

"Apparently, talking to a woman, flirting, asking her out are all forms of harassment."

Apparently you're desperate to live in a fantasy world, where someday you might get to grab a -----.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-16 01:28 PM

"Oooomm! You said a nasty!"

Smell my finger.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-16 01:29 PM

Is every pass sexual harassment? How do you have sex if you don't flirt or ask for it?

There's always someone who can't tell the difference between a normal expression of interest and predatory behavior.

If a woman describes your actions as "aggressive" and says they made her "uncomfortable," and you did it when she was alone in a confined space like an elevator, what you are doing isn't flirting. It's harassment.

You know this. Trump does too. He is proud of being a creeper who makes unwelcome advances on women. He is proud of groping them without consent and getting away with it. He brags to other men about this. He bragged to Howard Stern about invading beauty pageant locker rooms to leer at women and even underage girls. Only a sexually predatory man would think that something to boast about.

No man has to be a predator to --------. Every man in this discussion has managed the feat and I bet most of us were not particularly rich, well-dressed or handsome. Aside from me, of course.

#22 | Posted by rcade at 2017-12-16 05:42 PM

"Apparently, talking to a woman, flirting, asking her out are all forms of harassment."

When it's persistent and unwanted (even within a small time period as an elevator ride), yes, that's exactly what it is.

#23 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2017-12-16 05:56 PM

Pro tip: When you are "flirting" with a woman and she tells you, "No thanks, I'm married" should you continue to "aggressively" pursue with her after that, be forewarned you are at risk of entering into harassment territory.

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-12-16 06:04 PM

In my experience, they always say no at least once, and then it's yes, yes, oh god yes. Wedding ring doesnt matter as much as you would think.

#25 | Posted by visitor_ at 2017-12-16 06:27 PM

"No man has to be a predator to --------."

Theres a whole generation of young men who believe they aren't Alpha enough to evet --------, and that by being a better predator, they'll finally end their embarrassing virginity.

This is your school shooter demographic.

It's kind of weird, since getting laid is probably easier than ever thanks to the Internet. But then, mental illness is kind of weird like that.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-16 06:30 PM

#22 Come on Rcade, not all of us have a website to impress the chicks with.

#27 | Posted by bored at 2017-12-16 06:31 PM

#25

Dickish behavior, psychologically speaking. Almost always a sign of Limp Steamed Baby Carrot Penis Size Syndrome.

#28 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-16 06:34 PM

Wait till this generation of boys reared on XXX internet porn finds out that women don't actually like getting surprised with a face-full of ---------.

#29 | Posted by madscientist at 2017-12-16 07:03 PM

#29, getting to my point in #26, such rare creatures do exist, and they're a lot easier to find thanks to the Internet.

Kids learning how to "do it" by emulating the stuff they see in porn is a real thing, though. Pp1q11qq ... That was either a typo or a new sex move the kids are doing today.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-16 07:19 PM

In my experience, they always say no at least once, and then it's yes, yes, oh god yes. Wedding ring doesnt matter as much as you would think.

I bet plenty of women have said "no" to you and it never became "yes." Nobody bats .1000. As for the idea "no" always becomes "yes," good God. You know that sounds totally -----, right?

As for going after married women, I hope you grew out of that idea. That's a dick move and you're begging for trouble. Trump openly bragging about doing that shows he's an ass with no respect for anyone or anything except his own gratification.

#31 | Posted by rcade at 2017-12-16 07:24 PM

Theres a whole generation of young men who believe they aren't Alpha enough to evet --------, and that by being a better predator, they'll finally end their embarrassing virginity.

It's incredibly sad to see what young men are being taught about themselves and women on the Internet these days, particularly in places like the Pickup Artist world.

All this stuff about how you have to be an Alpha Male with "game" to get a woman is crap. Work on improving yourself, pursue life goals, have interesting things to say and stop treating women like they are an alien species. And don't be creepy. If someone is acting uninterested move on.

#32 | Posted by rcade at 2017-12-16 07:31 PM

Which of you fathers, if your son asked for a loaf of bread, would you give him a scorpion?

Bad example. Lemme try this again...

#33 | Posted by madscientist at 2017-12-16 08:30 PM

#32

Objectifying women is a big part of Republican Family Values... unfortunately.

I will always remember Mackris' sex guide postings here about how pulling a woman's hair is, in his vast almost Magic Johnson-ish experience, always a yuuge turn on for the woman. It was classic. He posted it more than once, too.

Why Men Objectify Women
goodmenproject.com

#34 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-16 09:43 PM

Sure, I've struck out plenty of times. I don't claim to be Don Draper. But I also don't see how flirting and asking for sex is harassment. Are you all so atractive to women that you don't have to pursue them?

#35 | Posted by visitor_ at 2017-12-17 12:57 AM

"In my experience, they always say no at least once, and then it's yes, yes, oh god yes"

Video of Visitor in action:
thefreethoughtproject.com

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-17 01:38 AM

"But I also don't see how flirting and asking for sex is harassment."

You really don't see how asking for sex over and over again after you've been repeatedly told no is harassment, do you?

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-17 01:40 AM

Visitor, tell me if this is how you do it:

" I said ‘okay'so he would stop badgering me."

www.washingtonpost.com
He continued to insist, and I was beginning to get uncomfortable.

He repeated that actors really need to rehearse everything and that we must practice the kiss. I said ‘okay' so he would stop badgering me. We did the line leading up to the kiss and then he came at me, put his hand on the back of my head, mashed his lips against mine and aggressively stuck his tongue in my mouth.

I immediately pushed him away with both of my hands against his chest and told him if he ever did that to me again I wouldn't be so nice about it the next time.

I walked away. All I could think about was getting to a bathroom as fast as possible to rinse the taste of him out of my mouth.

I felt disgusted and violated.

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-17 01:47 AM

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#39 | Posted by madscientist at 2017-12-17 02:59 AM

Girls wanna have sex, too.

--Madscientist's prudish mother to her son.

c. 1989 AD (CE)

#40 | Posted by madscientist at 2017-12-17 03:18 AM

Aerosmith's fault.

#41 | Posted by sentinel at 2017-12-17 07:57 AM

"In my experience, they always say no at least once, and then it's yes, yes, oh god yes. Wedding ring doesnt matter as much as you would think."

I doubt you've ever slept with a woman. What a creep!

#42 | Posted by danni at 2017-12-17 10:34 AM

In my experience, they always say no at least once, and then it's yes, yes, oh god yes. Wedding ring doesnt matter as much as you would think.

That's usually when the roofies kick in.

#43 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-12-17 12:04 PM

Visitor at the bar.... nudge, nudge... know what I mean?

www.youtube.com

#44 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-17 01:04 PM

That youtube from Corky is perfect!

#45 | Posted by danni at 2017-12-17 01:24 PM

...But I also don't see how flirting and asking for sex is harassment.
#35 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Last time I checked, cornering a married woman in an elevator and *telling* (she didn't say he asked) her she's going to have sex with you wasn't flirting. If you think sticking your hand up a woman's skirt in the hallway is flirting, you have deeper problems than finding someone to date.

#46 | Posted by chuffy at 2017-12-17 02:06 PM

I asked an honest question and get nothing but strawmen and hyperbole in response. Sure some of Trump and Clinton's actions cross a line that I wouldn't. But I'm not sure where the line is anymore.

#47 | Posted by visitor_ at 2017-12-17 02:32 PM

#47

The line is where it always was. You just saw no advantage in it.

#48 | Posted by Zed at 2017-12-17 02:43 PM

#47

As one example: You hit on married women.

Stop it. How's that for a red line?

#49 | Posted by Zed at 2017-12-17 02:45 PM

@47 real men don't have to ask that question

#50 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-12-17 03:22 PM

#11,"Donald Trump needs to stick to his own wife"

#49, "You hit on married women. Stop it. How's that for a red line?"

How is he supposed to stick to his wife if he can't hit on married women? Talk about sending mixed signals!

#51 | Posted by sentinel at 2017-12-17 04:12 PM

-an honest question

Yeah, right.

#52 | Posted by Corky at 2017-12-17 05:44 PM

Posted by visitor

Clueless dirtbags like you are entirely responsible for the whole '# Me Too' movement.

#53 | Posted by Angrydad at 2017-12-17 06:41 PM

You don't know what a straw man argument is, if you read my response as such.

If you want to know what the difference between flirting and sexual harassment really is, ask a woman you are friends with. If you know any.

#54 | Posted by chuffy at 2017-12-17 08:31 PM

But I also don't see how flirting and asking for sex is harassment.

Most of the high-profile sexual harassers were engaging in bad behavior at work and work-related functions.

They also were doing far more than expressing interest in a non-aggressive manner.

Trump in the elevator was being creepy. He knew he was being creepy. He got his jollies being creepy. Does anyone doubt this?

#55 | Posted by rcade at 2017-12-18 11:28 AM

"Trump in the elevator was being creepy. He knew he was being creepy. He got his jollies being creepy. Does anyone doubt this?"

The described behavior is loutish. Beyond that I can't say whether it was creepy or pathetic or done in a whimsical half joking manner, since I wasn't there.

I think it's a fair question whether a single incident like that qualifies as harassment, or if people are diminishing that word by applying it too broadly.

I also think it's more likely Trump doesn't see his own behavior as creepy, and he probably thinks it's normal.

#56 | Posted by sentinel at 2017-12-18 10:03 PM

I also think it's more likely Trump doesn't see his own behavior as creepy, and he probably thinks it's normal.

That's comforting to the rest of the planet.

#57 | Posted by REDIAL at 2017-12-18 10:18 PM

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