Tuesday, December 12, 2017

Russia Will Build Nuclear Power Plant in Egypt

Egypt and Russia have signed a contract to build Egypt's first nuclear power plant during a visit by Russian President Vladimir Putin. The Russian leader also voiced a willingness to resume direct flights to Egypt. A final contract to start work constructing Egypt's first nuclear power plant was signed on Monday in Cairo during a meeting between Egyptian President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi and Russian President Vladimir Putin. The power plant, which will contain four 1,200 megawatt reactors, will be built in Dabaa on the Mediterranean coast.

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During the meeting, Putin called for Israeli-Palestinian peace talks to resume, including discussions on Jerusalem following US President Donald Trump's controversial decision to recognize the city as Israel's capital.

Speaking on state television, Putin stressed the importance of "the immediate resumption of Palestinian-Israeli talks over all disputed issues, including the status of Jerusalem."

He also said that quick, long-term agreements that benefit both sides must be made.

"These agreements must be in harmony with previous decisions of the international community," said Putin, adding that "Russia fully supports previous Security Council resolutions."

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Putin sees a power vacuum emerging in the Arab states now that Dotard has poured gasoline and set on fire any goodwill the US had with his pandering to Shelly Adelsohn.

Way to make the US weaker Donny Doll Hands.

#1 | Posted by 726 at 2017-12-11 01:53 PM


Pres Putin has been dabbling in the Middle East for a few years, trying to upset the area and gain influence with the outcome.

Little did he know (or maybe he did) that Pres Trump would give him such a valuable gift with the chaos resulting from last week's decision on Jerusalem.

Pres Putin has been working a lot with Iran to destabilize the region, I am actually quite surprised to see him reaching out to Egypt.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2017-12-11 02:51 PM

To this day the Nuclear Industry has no practical safe waste storage plan. Thorium Power Plants would permanently solve that problem.

#3 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-12-12 07:42 AM

Pres Putin has been working a lot with Iran to destabilize the region, I am actually quite surprised to see him reaching out to Egypt.

#2 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2017-12-11 02:51 PM | REPLY

Russia sells Egypt billions of dollars in arms. They've supplied them military equipment since the 40s, and have never really stopped despite us becoming their primary vendor.

#4 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-12-12 07:45 AM

Thorium Power Plants would permanently solve that problem.

#3 | POSTED BY BAYVIKING AT 2017-12-12 07:42 AM | FLAG:

They don't produce enough plutonium to weaponize. That will make them obviously unpopular to would-be nuclear powers.

#5 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-12-12 07:47 AM

This is just more "winning." Trump knows what he is doing in international relations.....riiiight!!!! BTW, it is amazing how universal the word "Dotard" has become, it is now synonymous with Trump.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2017-12-12 08:25 AM

The Dotard couldn't get his beastmaster Vlad to agree to use the beautiful, clean American coal instead? Wow, we really do need better relations with the Russians...

#7 | Posted by catdog at 2017-12-12 08:34 AM

Yea, the Russians have such a good record with their reactors. Could you wish for something with as much potential.

#8 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-12-12 12:06 PM

To this day the Nuclear Industry has no practical safe waste storage plan. Thorium Power Plants would permanently solve that problem.

#3 | Posted by bayviking

That is BS. There is a huge hole in a mountain in Nevada but the project has been stopped by politics.

#9 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-12-12 01:17 PM

Yea, the Russians have such a good record with their reactors. Could you wish for something with as much potential.

#8 | Posted by docnjo

They had one incident that was caused by humans. Other than that they seem to have a clean record. But......... I am not a commie lover like some in the dem party.

#10 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-12-12 01:20 PM

#8 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

en.wikipedia.org Three Mile Island

en.wikipedia.org Santa Susana Field Lab

Our record isn't so great either.

#11 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2017-12-12 01:21 PM

" I am not a commie lover..." - #10 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-12-12 01:20 PM

No. You're a Putin lover.

#12 | Posted by Hans at 2017-12-12 01:22 PM

That is BS. There is a huge hole in a mountain in Nevada but the project has been stopped by politics.

#9 | POSTED BY SNIPER AT 2017-12-12 01:1

"Bury it somewhere" is not a practical, safe, longterm solution, you unbelievable moron.

#13 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-12-12 01:24 PM

"Bury it somewhere" is not a practical, safe, longterm solution, you unbelievable moron. - #13 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-12-12 01:24 PM

Do you doubt all of the studies performed about global warming as well, or are these scientists/experts/studies different for some reason?

#14 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-12-12 01:34 PM

"Do you doubt all of the studies performed about global warming as well, or are these scientists/experts/studies different for some reason?"

The latter, mouthbreather. How long before radioactive waste is safe again?

#15 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-12-12 01:42 PM

#10 | Posted by Sniper, Ignorance should not be ignored or rewarded. Why not do a little web search on the topic of nuclear accidents in the Soviet Union that have been admitted to sense the the fall of that evil empire. How many nuclear subs died from reactor failure? How much land in the Urals is uninhabitable because of radioactive contamination? And Chernobyl contaminated an area larger than the state of West Virginia, quite an accomplishment using a technology we abandoned in the 1940s. During the 50s the Russians were hell bent on producing plutonium for bombs, safety was not a concern. At least three reactors failed catastrophically. Ask about "NO GO" zones in western Siberia. Areas not crossed or entered for any reason by anyone.

#16 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-12-12 03:57 PM

"Bury it somewhere" is not a practical, safe, longterm solution, you unbelievable moron.
#13 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN"

If you have a better solution.
You would be a billionaire.
Sadly, you don't.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-12 04:02 PM

If you have a better solution.
You would be a billionaire.

#17 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2017-12-12 04:02 PM | FLAG:

I do. Stop making the damned stuff.

Now about the billion, I'm afraid I don't accept personal checks...

#18 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-12-12 04:19 PM

Does this have anything to do with the following?

within minutes of President Donald Trump's inauguration, then-national security adviser Michael Flynn sent assurances to former business partners that a plan to build nuclear reactors across the Middle East was "good to go."

www.politico.com

Guess we saw this coming.

#19 | Posted by JOE at 2017-12-12 04:29 PM

#17 | Posted by snoofy, Actually they have a very good place to deposit radioactive waste. Geologically stable, deep and made of a material that absorbs radiation and contains it. These formations are about sixty million years old, enormous, and well mapped. They are called salt domes in the high planes of Texas. They are between 500' to 1000' deep, some are more than a hundred miles in area. Can't get more secluded than that.

#20 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-12-12 05:01 PM

"Bury it somewhere" is not a practical, safe, longterm solution, you unbelievable moron.

#13 | Posted by DirkStruan

Where do you think it came from? The zoomie fairy?

#21 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-12-12 06:45 PM

I do. Stop making the damned stuff.

Now about the billion, I'm afraid I don't accept personal checks...

#18 | Posted by DirkStruan

They don't make it, it comes from out of the ground.

#22 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-12-12 06:46 PM

They don't make it, it comes from out of the ground.

#22 | POSTED BY SNIPER AT 2017-12-12 06:46 PM | REPLY | FLAG

Nuclear waste comes out of the ground? As if by magic? What interesting scientific news, you've discovered.

#23 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-12-12 06:52 PM

Where do you think it came from?

#21 | POSTED BY SNIPER AT 2017-12-12 06:45 PM | FLAG:

Reactors, nimrod. Where do YOU think it comes from?

#24 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-12-12 06:55 PM

You guys over rate this problem that GWB solved years ago. Simple, you load it on Warthogs and spray it all over Falluja.

Oh, but its depleted. If it were really depleted it would be lead. But that takes along time, not that lead is much better for the environment

#25 | Posted by bruceaz at 2017-12-12 07:23 PM

Where do you think it came from? The zoomie fairy?

Posted by Sniper at 2017-12-12 06:45 PM | Reply

Zoomies hahahahaha tehehehe the zoomiies are here weeeeeeeeeeeee teeheehee Neo maxi zoomie dweebie giggles OMFG Tears.

#26 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-12-12 07:29 PM

Zoomie zoomie zoomie weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ROFLMMFAO ZOOMIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!

#27 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-12-12 07:32 PM

sniper,

The risks from concentrated transformed radioactive products, made by humans, cannot be compared to the dilute isotopes which occur naturally, though both present risks to life. Uranium mining tailings waste cause cancer. Yucca Mountain cannot handle all the waste the power and weapons industry is generating. Hanford is a dangerous mess. The cost of storage for hundreds of thousands of years renders nuclear power impractical because of cost. The plans to use stainless steels and concrete to contain the radioactive material is flawed because we now know that metal alloys deteriorate when subjected to radiation. The French had a better idea with titanium. An earthquake may render waste management for 100,000 years untenable. Fukushima is putting ALL of Tokyo's water supply at risk and is polluting the entire Pacific Ocean with no end in sight.

Nuclear Power is impractical because its total cost is impossible to control.

#28 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-12-13 08:34 AM

"Nuclear Power is impractical because its total cost is impossible to control."

Therefore, it can't insure itself because of the huge risks it presents and is totally unnecessary because of renewable energy sources. Egypt? Sun light? Really, they need nuclear energy instead of solar energy? Russia doesn't produce solar panels, China does though. Egypt should talk to China and reject nuclear energy. REalize the France invested heavily into nuclear but then discovered that the Seine River was becoming warmer and was losing its ability to cool the reactors. Moving towards nuclear energy is actually and surprisingly moving backwards.

#29 | Posted by danni at 2017-12-13 09:00 AM

Children, you can't make nuclear weapons out of solar energy. This has nothing to do with the environment. Grow up.

#30 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-12-13 09:19 AM

"Children, you can't make nuclear weapons out of solar energy. This has nothing to do with the environment. Grow up."

And Putin is Trump's buddy and benefactor. You grow up.

#31 | Posted by danni at 2017-12-13 09:44 AM

#30 | Posted by sitzkrieg, And you can't make the material for a nuclear weapon from a power generating reactor. It requires a very specific type of reactor. We used two to produce all the plutonium we now have. All the nuclear weapons we have use plutonium, it is easier to refine than U232. They haven't built uranium bombs sense the 50s.

#32 | Posted by docnjo at 2017-12-13 09:47 AM

You can use a LWR as a breeder reactor. It worked for NK. Egypt is a military dictatorship with a penchant for flashy weapons that aren't applicable to their current strategic needs of their only real threat, insurgency in Sinai.

#33 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-12-13 10:13 AM

The latter, mouthbreather. How long before radioactive waste is safe again?

#15 | Posted by DirkStruan

That really depends what radiation you are talking about. Some have a half life measured in minutes, some in hours, some in days and some in years. Now you know more than you did minutes ago.

#34 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-12-13 10:51 AM

Nuclear waste comes out of the ground? As if by magic? What interesting scientific news, you've discovered.

#23 | Posted by DirkStruan

Don't be an idiot. All nuclear material comes from out of the ground. It becomes waste when we don't want to use it anymore.

#35 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-12-13 10:53 AM

Oh, but its depleted. If it were really depleted it would be lead.

#25 | Posted by bruceaz

Wrong bru.

#36 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-12-13 10:55 AM

The risks from concentrated transformed radioactive products, made by humans, cannot be compared to the dilute isotopes which occur naturally, though both present risks to life. Uranium mining tailings waste cause cancer.

#28 | Posted by bayviking

The tailings are what is left after the first reduction. They are less dangerous than the ore that is dug out of the ground. I guess what you are saying is dilution is the solution to our nuclear waste. I know a bunch of people that would argue that one with you.

#37 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-12-13 11:00 AM

And Putin is Trump's buddy and benefactor. You grow up.

#31 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2017-12-13 09:44 AM | REPLY

The topic is the military dictatorship in Egypt, not Trump. Your push for solar there is awesomely optimistic. Know what else they purchased? A pair of French made light aircraft carriers. They spent a billion dollars on two of them. They have zero use for aircraft carriers, but they look cool.

#38 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-12-13 11:03 AM

"Nuclear Power is impractical because its total cost is impossible to control."

#29 | Posted by danni

Because of over regulation by the government during construction. Their QA program is nothing but a 'cover your ass' with paper and not controlling the quality at all.

#39 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-12-13 11:03 AM

"You can use a LWR as a breeder reactor. It worked for NK. Egypt is a military dictatorship with a penchant for flashy weapons that aren't applicable to their current strategic needs of their only real threat, insurgency in Sinai."

So, Trump's buddy Putin is the one who is going to build them that reactor, unnecessary for power consumption. So why does Putin want to do this and secondly, why does Trump still kiss his ass? Even his Sec. of Def. and State openly state that Putin meddled significantly in our elections.

#40 | Posted by danni at 2017-12-13 11:30 AM

#39, Correct, paperwork requirements, in the US nuclear industry, are mind boggling and does little to prevent mistakes. Poor US design decisions, based on short term cost savings, have plagued the industry. Diablo Canyon was built accidentally in its mirror image, right on a fault line, and it doubled PG&E's rates, even though it accounted for about 15% of its generating capacity. All of this is dwarfed by storage costs for 100,000 years, much longer than human civilization. The risks to human health are enormous, but no one in business or government cares about that. Instead, they downplay and lie about health risks constantly. It is self destructing for purely economic reasons and has bankrupted Westinghouse.

#41 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-12-13 12:12 PM

The tailings are what is left after the first reduction. They are less dangerous than the ore that is dug out of the ground. I guess what you are saying is dilution is the solution to our nuclear waste. I know a bunch of people that would argue that one with you.

#37 | POSTED BY SNIPER AT 2017-12-13 11:00 AM | REPLY

Nice non-response, you slack jawed dolt. So, to review, refinement, concentration, and use in a reactor produce worse waste than exists naturally. Meanwhile, the process of extraction puts naturally occurring radioactive materials in places where they can contaminate people, plants, animals, usable land/air/water and so on.

#42 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-12-13 01:01 PM

Don't be an idiot. All nuclear material comes from out of the ground. It becomes waste when we don't want to use it anymore.

#35 | POSTED BY SNIPER AT 2017-12-13 10:53 AM | FLAG:

Really? Nothing happens in between? Tell another one, Cletus.

#43 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-12-13 01:03 PM

Nice non-response, you slack jawed dolt. So, to review, refinement, concentration, and use in a reactor produce worse waste than exists naturally. Meanwhile, the process of extraction puts naturally occurring radioactive materials in places where they can contaminate people, plants, animals, usable land/air/water and so on.

#42 | Posted by DirkStruan

You obviously don't know anything about the industry. Try to get educated on the subjects you post about. The process you are talking about is a refinement process not a big change process.

Buy a radiation counter and test a Colman lantern mantle and then go up on a mountain and check any rock. Test when they x-ray you. Finally find a lump of coal and check it. Now tell me why pilots are exposed to more radiation than the average person in the US. Hint, it comes from the sun. Try to learn something in stead of running off at the mouth.

#44 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-12-13 05:43 PM

Dir, why don't you explain to the class how nuclear fuel rods are made. You seem so damn smart. Start at digging the ore out.

#45 | Posted by Sniper at 2017-12-13 05:45 PM

"Hint, it comes from the sun."
--Sniper

"All nuclear material comes from out of the ground."
--Also Sniper

:)

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-12-13 05:54 PM

You obviously don't know anything about the industry. Try to get educated on the subjects you post about. The process you are talking about is a refinement process not a big change process.
Buy a radiation counter and test a Colman lantern mantle and then go up on a mountain and check any rock. Test when they x-ray you. Finally find a lump of coal and check it. Now tell me why pilots are exposed to more radiation than the average person in the US. Hint, it comes from the sun. Try to learn something in stead of running off at the mouth.

#44 | POSTED BY SNIPER AT 2017-12-13 05:43 PM | FLAG:

So you argument is that because radioactive exposure can happen different ways, we shouldn't worry so much about radioactive waste?

What's your position on fire safety, you unbelievable moron? You sound like a Darwin Award waiting to happen.

#47 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-12-13 06:38 PM

Tailings are dangerous and were used to give a Texas Indian tribe cancer by the Bureau of Indian Affairs decades ago. When oil was discovered on their Texas land, the Indians were offered heavy construction equipment and new homes in the four corners area, if they would move. They were not told about the oil or that they were moved on top of a uranium tailings pile. Most have succumbed to cancer, but the US Government denies causal relationship or responsibility.

Tailings can be, but not necessarily, more concentrated than ore. It all depends on the predominant mineral chemistry of the ore and the tailings. More difficult to extract mineralogy (oxides vs. sulfates) often becomes tailings until the right extraction process is developed.

#48 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-12-13 07:14 PM

#48

That story is very upsetting. I would like to read more. Can you suggest a source?

#49 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-12-13 07:22 PM

A draftman that worked for Pullman-Torkelson shared it with me 45 years ago. He was part of a survey crew that was hired by the DOE (formerly AEC) to survey several tailings piles in the intermountain region. When they had finished their survey the DOE proceeded to tear the report to pieces, you can't say this, you can't say that....they might as well have never conducted the surveys in Salt Lake City, Grand Junction and the reservation near four corners. When the survey crew was preparing to visit the reservation they were told they needed to include armed guards for that trip. The DOE probably classified the survey as "top secret", but I learned this story from a survey crew member.

Here is a general overview of a problem much larger than this one tribe suffered.

en.wikipedia.org

#50 | Posted by bayviking at 2017-12-13 10:39 PM

So, Trump's buddy Putin is the one who is going to build them that reactor, unnecessary for power consumption. So why does Putin want to do this and secondly, why does Trump still kiss his ass? Even his Sec. of Def. and State openly state that Putin meddled significantly in our elections.

#40 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2017-12-13 11:30 AM | REPLY

Why does Putin want a $3 billion trade deal while dealing with US economic sanctions, after Russia selling Egyptians useless military hardware for 70 years? Damn, I don't know. That one is hard to figure out.

#51 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-12-14 06:55 AM

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