Wednesday, November 22, 2017

Judge: Trump Can't Halt Military Sex-Change Ops

A second federal judge has halted the Trump administration's proposed transgender military ban finding that active-duty service members are "already suffering harmful consequences" because of the president's policy. The ruling Tuesday from U.S. District Judge Marvin J. Garbis in the Maryland case comes just weeks after another judge in Washington blocked the administration's proposal that would have stopped military recruitment of transgender men and women and possibly forced the dismissal of current service members starting in March. The preliminary injunction issued by the judge in Baltimore on Tuesday goes further than the earlier ruling by also preventing the administration from denying funding for sex-reassignment surgeries after the order takes effect.

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#1 | Posted by catdog at 2017-11-22 04:43 PM

So much winning!

#2 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-11-22 05:06 PM

"So much winning!"

Calm down, Donner, I don't think this is all over yet and it probably WON'T be until the Supremes take a shot at it. Those Washington and Maryland judges get overridden a lot too. I don't know how you can be happy having your tax dollars spent turning Francis into Frances anyway. Maybe you can explain to me how that makes the military more efficient and successful in winning battles?

#3 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2017-11-22 05:25 PM

Calm down, Donner, I don't think this is all over yet and it probably WON'T be until the Supremes take a shot at it. Those Washington and Maryland judges get overridden a lot too. I don't know how you can be happy having your tax dollars spent turning Francis into Frances anyway. Maybe you can explain to me how that makes the military more efficient and successful in winning battles?

Posted by jestgettinalong at 2017-11-22 05:25 PM | Reply

So much for the Right Winged support the troops meme. It's all political BS.

#4 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-11-22 05:35 PM

Maybe you can explain to me how that makes the military more efficient and successful in winning battles?

#3 | Posted by jestgettinalong

Ok, I will.

As soon as you explain to me how the military spending your money on erectile dysfunction medication which costs about $84 million a year and spending for prescriptions for Viagra which add up to about $41.6 million make the military more efficient and successful in winning battles.

#5 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-11-22 06:00 PM

"As soon as you explain to me how the military spending your money on erectile dysfunction medication which costs about $84 million a year and spending for prescriptions for Viagra which add up to about $41.6 million make the military more efficient and successful in winning battles."

I will explain it by saying I'm STRONGLY opposed to any policy and any spending for social experiments and unnecessary "benefits" like those you describe that don't directly go to the readiness and efficiency of the troops.

#6 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2017-11-22 06:08 PM

I will explain it by saying I'm STRONGLY opposed to any policy and any spending for social experiments and unnecessary "benefits" like those you describe that don't directly go to the readiness and efficiency of the troops.

#6 | Posted by jestgettinalong

Are you also strongly opposed to mental health benefits?

Because, as I see it, those type of healthcare expenses seem to be directly related to the mental health as well as the physical health of the individual soldiers.

#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-11-22 06:12 PM

Do they also cover Liposuction? How about elective plastic surgery?

#8 | Posted by Tor at 2017-11-22 06:15 PM

"So much for the Right Winged support the troops meme. It's all political BS."

I'm a retired "troop," a life member of the VFW and American Legion, I socialize with active military, veterans and retired vets all the time. I spent my time in SE Asia, I have a Vietnam Service Medal with two stars and the Vietnam Campaign Medal and I'm quite sure I support the troops to a greater degree than you do. There's no BS about it and it isn't political! Why don't you poll the troops and see if THEY like defense funds spent the way we're discussing instead of equipment and pay raises.

#9 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2017-11-22 06:27 PM

"Are you also strongly opposed to mental health benefits?"

Not at all.

#10 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2017-11-22 06:30 PM

"Because, as I see it, those type of healthcare expenses seem to be directly related to the mental health as well as the physical health of the individual soldiers."

"Serious" mental health cases can make one unqualified for military service just as physical cases. If it's DUE to military service they should be released and placed on disability.

#11 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2017-11-22 06:37 PM

"Do they also cover Liposuction? How about elective plastic surgery?"

LOL...I don't know what it all covers these days. In my day if you were too fat to perform you were given a program and a certain time to reduce to requirement. If you didn't you were released.

#12 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2017-11-22 06:41 PM

Why don't you poll the troops and see if THEY like defense funds spent the way we're discussing

They wont do that. They may find out the military leans right and isn't with their worldview.

#13 | Posted by boaz at 2017-11-22 09:57 PM

"They may find out the military leans right and isn't with their worldview."

That's because the military has learned by experience that the kinder/gentler war policies of the leftists do NOT succeed and result in many more casualties of our own. To think that I even voted for LBJ and his henchmen, McNamara and Westmoreland, in 1964 gags me. STUPID Rules of Engagement...didn't work then and were even worse under the last administration. I was too young to vote for Truman but he was a democrat with ------ and quickly ended WWII in two battles (Hiroshima and Nagasaki) that resulted in NO U.S. casualties and fewer casualties of the Japanese than if we were kinder and gentler in a protracted war.

#14 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2017-11-23 08:03 AM

Why don't you poll the troops and see if THEY like defense funds spent the way we're discussing instead of equipment and pay raises.

or ask the postman if they would rather have better equipment and a raise than advertise on tv. or ask your local waste management driver if he he/she would rather have better equipment and a raise instead of funding a golf tournament.

point is of course anybody in any occupation would want better equipment and a raise.

#15 | Posted by cjk85 at 2017-11-23 01:24 PM

No problem as your taxes are paying for it so now you'll feel better about the military budget :) BTW, it's not just the operations, but also the ongoing hormonal therapy.

#16 | Posted by MSgt at 2017-11-23 01:54 PM

"That's because the military has learned by experience that the kinder/gentler war policies of the leftists do NOT succeed and result in many more casualties of our own."

It's not the political pursuasion, remember Nixon? It's the type of war it is, it's not like WWII where we had an enemy that wore uniforms, had allegiance to a different nation, etc. Since Vietnam we have been fighting gorilla war enemies, it is eventually realized by our country at the end of each of these conflicts, that they are unwinnable, very costly in lives and dollars and really accomplish nothing. Your attempt to politicize the way we fight wars is stupid, it isn't about who is in charge it is about the unnecessary use of force in countries where the population does not support us, does not want us there and in nations that have never posed a serious threat to us. I swear, it really does seem like our nation became divided over Vietnam and has remained that way ever since because your side could never admit you were wrong about that war and then multiplied the damage with additional unnecessary and equally unwinnable wars against nations that never attacked us. To this day, folks like you are still carrying a grudge because us hippies were right about Vietnam and your side was completely wrong but still can't admit it. I wonder how many of you can even recognize the irony of Trump being our commander in chief and even bragging that he knows more about fighting wars than the generals while he, himself, was a draft dodger during Vietnam? And you guys voted for him and support him as you did G.W. Bush, also a draft dodger. I swear this reality in America would be a funny novel or comedy movie but not funny at all in reality. As I've said before, everyone who voted for G.W. Bush twice should have lost their right to vote forever because of it.

#17 | Posted by danni at 2017-11-23 02:44 PM

BTW, it's not just the operations, but also the ongoing hormonal therapy.

#16 | POSTED BY MSGT

Btw it is still cheaper than what the military spends on Viagra.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-11-23 02:55 PM

#17 | POSTED BY DANNI

Uhhh...I hate to tell you this, danni, and ruin your rant, but it was YOUR guys and YOUR crew that sent all the troops into Vietnam and it was YOUR elected administration that set the RoE that caused so many to be slaughtered.

"In 1961, President John F. Kennedy continued the Truman Doctrine of assisting countries threatened by Communism by sending supplies and military advisors to South Vietnam in their fight against Communist North Vietnam. US troops were in combat less than a year later, though there had been no declaration of war from Congress. President Kennedy was assassinated in 1963 and President Lyndon Johnson took over the management of the war in Vietnam. Congress passed the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, affirming that the US was "prepared, as the President determines, to take all necessary steps, including the use of armed force" to assist South Vietnam. Though there was no declaration of war, Johnson understood the Gulf on Tonkin Resolution as empowering him to escalate the fighting.The war became increasingly unpopular at home. Critics argued there was no clear objective, the US did not seem to be winning, and casualties were mounting. Under a barrage of criticism, President Johnson announced he would not run for a second term."

billofrightsinstitute.org

Nixon was left with a "---- pie" but he DID start withdrawing troops and he did eliminate a lot of the sancturaries. The severe bombing of Hanoi and Haiphong during Operation Linebacker in 1972 had a lot to do with the Vietnamese coming to the table in Paris. I left Cam Rhan for my last flight in late 1971. My first landing was at Tan Son Nhutin 1958.There's not a lot you can tell me about the Vietnam was, danni.

#19 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2017-11-24 08:32 AM

IKE Sent the first troops into Vietnam in 1955. Don't lie Jest.

#20 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-11-24 08:37 AM

"IKE Sent the first troops into Vietnam in 1955. Don't lie Jest."

You are awfully quick to call, "liar," when you know so little, Laura...I didn't say who was president in '58 when I first arrived there, but I voted for JFK by absentee ballot from there in 1960. You probably also don't know that you had to be at least 21 to vote in those days too. ("Hint".. I never voted for anyone in '56)

#21 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2017-11-24 08:48 AM

"I swear, it really does seem like our nation became divided over Vietnam and has remained that way ever since because your side could never admit you were wrong about that war"

MY side, danni? BUT, as I stated many times, I voted for JFK AND LBJ so I guess you could say it was "my" side back then. However, the whole fiasco caused me to change sides forever. I gotta admit though, I voted for Pat Brown for governor in CA over Ronald Reagan in 1966 as CA was my home of record while I was in the Navy. He lost, of course, but I learned that Reagan was a great leader and never voted Democrat again.

#22 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2017-11-24 09:38 AM

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