Court Keeps Abu-Jamal Off Death Row

MOVE? I thought we bombed those f-ers in the 80's.

If the jury honorably deliberated, then adding others to the jury, who must also honorably deliberate, shouldn't change the verdict.

Suggesting that making racial changes to a jury will overcome a verdict is insulting. That means juries cannot be honest and will make decisions based on race and not on evidence.

That sucks.

if clinton or the other guy get in, he'll probably be pardoned with honors...jeesh...

He should be freed and a racist xtian family should be forced to take him in

"or the other guy"

Puh-lease.

Mumia: no death sentence but no release?

Anyone suprised?

Why hasn't Johnson shown up yet to offer up his racist pronouncements on the case?

Spud's take?

A dead cop and a case tainted by racism and witnesses threatened by cops.

Destined to go nowhere ferever.

Be Well.

Destined to go nowhere ferever.

a life sentence should suffice.

What not good enough? Then YOU pay for it. It costs more to execute than life in prison.

One other thing. An execution could turn out to be a permanent mistake...and has.

LOL This guy is a killer and the liberals want to kiss him.

LOL This guy is a killer and the liberals want to kiss him.

Posted by timbci at 2008-03-27 04:45 PM

Life In Prison equates to kissing?

I thought you "conservatives" were against that type of alternative lifestyle.

Posted by dethspud at 2008-03-27 04:10 PM

Why hasn't Johnson shown up yet to offer up his racist pronouncements on the case?

Just what does Mumia have to recommend him, deth?

He'a a hate-filled vicious cold-blooded killer. Just why are you lefties so anxious to preserve his existence?

The racist aspect of this is that this low-life secured the support of racists motivated by the fact that he is black.

A dead cop and a case tainted by racism and witnesses threatened by cops.

Just how is the case tainted by racism? Oh, in that of the defenders of Mumia are inspired and motivated to defend him because he is black? He went up to a cop lying on the ground and shot him in the head. Mumia was an angry man. And that is supposed to mitigate his crime?

There are millions of black people not convicted of murder and facing a death penalty with the possibility of being resentenced to death. Mumia is in the circumstances that he is, because of his actions.

Why don't you send the victim;'s wife and family a note with your mantra wishing that they "Be well?"

I'd want this individual executed if he were black or white, or Asian, or whatever. You being a dedicated racist, deth, with racism at the core of your decision making, would not be inspired to protect a white creep who had committed such a base crime, but since the culprit is black, it's deth for the defense.

You are a blatant racist, deth.

Let's see. What is the basis for Mumia's defense?

That the crime was not vile?

No.

That he didn't commit the crime

No.

That his sentence should be mitigated because he is black?

Yes.

It's a plea for race-based mitigation. Ho hum. what's new?

Speaking from Philadelphia, if this guy is ever freed, there will be riots in this town... A lot of stores, Geno's comes to mind have pictures up of the cop that he did kill. This city is bad enough right now... this fucker needs to just keep rotting where he is.

"That means juries cannot be honest and will make decisions based on race and not on evidence."

Welcome to the real world.

And Johnson, the argument could be made that by excluding blacks from the trial of a black for murdering a white, a little race-based prosecution was already there. It worked real well for decades south of the Mason-Dixon.

The Mumia case has raised numerous disturbing issues for all sides.

Given the inequities and passions of us fallible humans, it is hard to feel 100% at peace with the notion of this man recieving the death penalty.

On the other hand it is disgusting how this conniving articulate intelligent man has manipulated the media and the far left to become a cause celebre. No doubt, there are many far less intelligent and less articulate people currently on death row with far better grievances against our justice system than Mumia. But because these other lost souls lack the ability to arouse the passions of the Hollywood/Media elite they are forgotten and nameless. (I hear there is even a "free Mumia" movement throughout Europe.) In the mean time, Mumia has had the rest of the justice system dancing like marionettes.

how about swift justice..... I can only ask myself why is this man allowed to live for 27 years after taking someones life our justice system SUCKS kill this guy and move on to the next.

Mod,
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What not good enough? Then YOU pay for it. It costs more to execute than life in prison.

Posted by donnerboy

I would love to see the proof of that.

It costs more to execute than life in prison.

with 27 years of appeals and wasting public resources i'll bet it gets expeensive

I'll ante up a dollar.

How much do you think it would cost?

Hey, I'd even ante up two dollars. Whatever it takes.

There have been many cases in which there were miscarriages of justice, and in which race played a factor. This was not one in which an innocent man was railroaded. Here, rather than being a chance to avoid injustice, the mitigation of the sentence would itself be an injustice.

That means juries cannot be honest and will make decisions based on race and not on evidence.

Glad you could join us in here in reality.

It costs more to execute than life in prison.

Maybe if that person is executed within the first year, but in this case and most cases you are incredibly wrong.

Speaking from Philadelphia, if this guy is ever freed, there will be riots in this town...

Speaking from Philadelphia there will also be riots if this guy is ever executed. There's 2 sides to that coin.

how about swift justice..... I can only ask myself why is this man allowed to live for 27 years after taking someones life our justice system SUCKS kill this guy and move on to the next.

Read my above answer. That outcome would tear Philadelphia in half and probably a lot of other places where Mumia has been able to gain support. No PA Governor will touch that with a 100ft pole...especially not a white governor.

The Mumia case is so confusing and riddled with lies on both sides it's almost impossible to tell if this guy deserves to be where he is at. And no that's not an excuse for him to not be where he is at.

free this man!!! A black man can not be judged fairly by a jury of whites!

If only the blacks summoned for jury duty would have gotten up off of their asses we wouldn't be in this prediciment!
Sincerely,
Jena 6

What not good enough? Then YOU pay for it. It costs more to execute than life in prison.

Posted by donnerboy

I would love to see the proof of that.

Posted by Sniper at 2008-03-28 02:24 PM

ya know Snippy ifn ya gonna use the Internets ya really oughta learn to use the GOOGLES.

try doing a search with the phase:

execution costs vs life imprisonment costs

let me help ya...

you will get the following

www.mindspring.com

and after going through the numbers it will say:

From this; the cost of keeping a 25-year-old inmate for 50 years at present amounts to $805,000. Assuming 75 years as an average life span, the $805,000 figure would be the cost of life in prison. So roughly it's costing us $2 million more to execute someone than it would cost to keep them in jail for life. This is just the dollar cost, the externalities will be discussed in a moment.

so there you have it... it costs roughly $2 million more to execute that to keep them in jail for life.

Send my winnings to http://www.barackobama.com/...

thank you

The writing fascists try to imply that any relief over a death penalty NOT invoked constitutes "libs" kissing the killer. I have no idea if this poor bastard killed anyone or not - and surely no one else does this many years after the fact. But I am glad for one small judicial decision that does not involve society killing someone in MY name, and thus reducing ME to the level of the killer. herm

Oh God, get over it, herm. Killing in your name? Reducing YOU to the level of a killer? Man, between you and Danni today I think I'm on exaggeration overload.

Yes we know that you know JACK SHIT about the case herm. He has been found guilty, and that verdict has been upheld by the 3rd circut court of appeal. The court said he is guilty, period. Now it's up to the prosecutors to ask for a re-instatement of the death penalty, or let him rot for LIFE. Next time read up on the story, dude.

Kind of reminds me how you were crying for the SLA chick who murdered a person, and tried to blow up a cop car. You wanted mercy, to a person who expressed NO REMORSE whatsoever. How typical!!!

He's a fucking cop killer, but that's AOK in your book, isn't it? WHAT mores do you have, ANY????????

they should have killed this fucker a long time ago

"Killing in your name? Reducing YOU to the level of a killer? ... I'm on exaggeration overload."

"The court said he is guilty, period. Next time read up on the story, dude. "

"He's a fucking cop killer, but that's AOK in your book, isn't it? WHAT mores do you have, ANY????????"

"they should have killed this fucker a long time ago>'

Isn't it incredible how if you put enough monkeys with enough keyboards they wind up writing shit like this? I mean ... there are just days I'm embarrassed that these guys and i come from the same African genes. herm

Tell us why the SLA lady should be released herm. Your point of view in unjustifiable....

is=in whatever, I guess you think people should not be held responsible for their actions??????

"Tell us why the SLA lady should be released herm. Your point of view in unjustifiable...."

Wave, Sarah Jane was a 1960s idealist. She served forever in The Slam. Sending her back is retributive beating of a dead horse. I think YOU need to tell ME where our society is served by continuing her eternal incarceration. Tell me where she has NOT been held responsible for her actions. herm

" She served forever in The Slam."??? Did you even bother reading my response on that link??

She served 7 years in prison, because he ran and hid for 23 years. She's never expressed remorse for the killing....

""On December 3, 2001, Fidler offered to let Olson testify under oath about her role in the case. She refused. He then wondered "I took those pleas twice ... were you lying to me then or are you lying to me now?" -- and denied her request to withdraw her plea. Observers expected her to serve only three to five years, but on January 18, 2002, she was sentenced to two consecutive 10-years-to-life terms. Due to good behavior, she would only serve 14 years"

Now this is the EXACT way you've approached the Mumia case as well. You have no idea anything about the case, and make some comments which again, are unjustifiablle..AS USUAL!!!!

I hope someone neutures You MSAY4.

Larry

"I hope someone neutures You MSAY4.

Larry"

Ok, I give. Nurtures? Neuters? Nucular?