"Had any other candidate running for POTUS in the last 60 years been caught blatantly lying like Obama, they would have been crucified by the media and forced to step down."

The president we have now lied about our reasons for going into Iraq and pretty much admitted as much by changing his justification after the fact from WMDs to "freedom". He lied when he said he wasn't into nation building because he got us involved in two such projects/disasters. He lied when he said he wanted Bin Laden "dead or alive" then years later said the guy wasn't a priority.

And not only was he not crucified when he ran for re-election, but hardly anyone bothered to mention any of this despite the fact that these are literally life and death issues. He never once had to explain himself to anyone.

So why are you pretending that the media is tough on GOP candidates when it doesn't stand up to the slightest scrutiny?

"WE ARE MAD AS HELL at socialist taking over our country"

No you aren't. You are mad as hell about socialists with "D" after their name taking over the country. Socialists with "R" after their names make your little pee pee hard. Hence, your screen name.

You can actually take Palin's line about Obama and pretty much apply it to her:

Sara Palin feels that the US is so imperfect that she married a man who wants to secede from the union.

Its like Mad-Libs for hacks who don't care about real issues.

The bright side is that we all start scrounging for food the local deer and Canadian geese problem will be taken care of.....

Didn't the National Guard used to be reserved for shit like this until moronboy sent them to Iraq?

"plenty of the anger will be directed at the liberal media carrying water for Obama."

What are the selectively outraged going to do to the Liberal Media, stop watching TV and start reading?

Fancy book queers is even more librul than them reglar TV queers.

"[T]he time to act is now," he writes. "You may think that things can't get any worse -- but they can, and if nothing is done in the next few days, they will."

This is why I was against the $700 billion last week. Now they just want more.

'"We are fighting really dire fundamentals," said Gerhard Schwarz, an equity strategist at Unicredit in Munich.'

Why is this fucking kraut slandering the American worker?

'I'm mad! I'm really mad!" another man said, taking the microphone and refusing to surrender it easily, even when McCain tried to agree with him.

"I'm not done. Lemme finish, please," he said after a standing ovation. "When you have Obama, [House Speaker Nancy] Pelosi and the rest of the hooligans up there going to run the country, we have to have our head examined.

"It's time that you two represent the rest of us. So go get 'em."

The crowd burst into loud chants of "U-S-A! U-S-A!" '

I'm probably going to vote for Bob Barr but I have to admit that these goobers kind of make me want to see Obama win. They think Obama and Pelosi are worse than what we have now? Where was there outrage when there were no WMDs in Iraq? Where was it when Bush said Bin Laden is no longer a priority? Where was it when it became obvious that the Bushies couldn't be bothered to have a real plan for Iraq? Where was it when foreign aid workers beat the federal government to New Orleans after Katrina? Why don't they care about the looting of our treasury? Why weren't they this pissed about the Bushies' bailout?

These idiots should have been furious for the last eight years and now they're pissed? Good. It's about time they get pissed about something.

"The firing of the state's top law official by the governor is the issue."

The guy was put into a situation where he had to decide whether to fire someone based mostly on hearsay coming from people with a grudge and he chose not to do so. Unfortunately, in doing so he also had to choose not to put on the kneepads for Palin's hubby. So he was fired.

No wonder these snivelling shits have no problem with it. They would've got down on all fours for Toddy and not even dared to ask for a reacharound.

"Abuse of power! LOL!!! You're an idiot Sully."

Then why is the there an investigation?

Obviously, I'm right and you're just an hackish douchebag.

"That's what I get for pointing out obvious comparisons."

Your comparisons are completely assinine. Since you are stupid, you don't know this. Anyone else who reads that shit does. Trust me.

"I will try and dummy it down for you next time."

Please do. I can't wait to see how and idiot pretends to be even more stupid....

"Only a complete moron thinks all battle plans should be succesful."

Considering I never said that, I don't know why you bring it up. I said there was no plan for Iraq or an incomplete plan at best. That is a betrayal, not a mistake or a failure. That is why you can't compare it to a plan that just didn't work. Someone who tries and fails at least puts in an effort. Bush couldn't be bothered, even though American lives were at stake. And you are trying to defend him with ridiculous deflections that just make you look like an idiot. Why?

"Obviously the point went over your head Sully. Even the best plans can be failures."

That's what I get for being nice and not pointing out how completely idiotic your whole comparison really was. You even mentioned kamikazes in some crazy attempt to compare a sneaky tactic the Navy didn't anticipate with failing to plan a war that we were initiating. That betrays a wealth of stupidity on your end.

My point was that Bush didn't have a plan. You have not disputed it. Instead you say "Well even the best plans can fail...."

So what does that mean? Since no plan is fool proof, mind as well not have a plan?

Talk about being a hack......

"I have been all over the world and I can tell you the 3 places i have seen the most racism was 1)michigan, 2)pennsylvania, 3)new york. And i'm not making this up."

That could be true in our experience but the odds of it are about the same as getting struck by lightning two days in a row. Something tells me maybe your filtering your perception based on your own beliefs.

To say that racism is as strong in NY as it is in the south is just completely ridiculous.

"How did the invasion of Normandy go? Okinawa? Midland? How well did the Navy plan for kamikazees?"

You're trying to say we half-assed D-day the way Bush did Iraq? LOL.

Not only that but you are comparing individual battles to Bush's nation building exercise in Iraq. This was his plan for Iraq.

1. Invade country
2. Overturn Saddam
3. ?
4. Democracy!

Alot of good people have died while they've been trying to figure out #3. If you are going to try something like this, you don't half ass it. I actually believed before the war that we had some kind of deal worked out with a powerful general or Iraqi leader of some sort who would step in for Saddam immediately until we could get things under control. Because that is the only way any of the shit the Bushies were saying about how easy this would be made any sense. Turns out, they were just talking about their asses. Not only did they not know how to achieve their utlimate goal, they couldn't be bothered to think about it.

I'm sorry but you do yourself and anyone involved in WWII a disservice by comparing the assholes we have in power now to the leaders we had back then.

"I couldn't think of anyone worse than Kerry while troops were in Iraq and Afghanistan."

I actually agree with some of the stuff you said about Kerry. But I can't imagine a worse CIC than Bush. We were already at war with our real enemey when he started the war in Iraq. So he fucked the soldiers serving in Afghanistan by making their mission 2nd priority. And now it comes out that political concerns contributed greatly to Bin Laden's escape.

Then he couldn't even be bothered to have a plan for Iraq. You talk about spitting on troops? What Kerry did is like pinning a medal on their chests compared to what Bush did. Sending guys to war for false reasons and without bothering to formulate a complete plan first is about as disrespectful you can be short of shooting them in the face. Not only that, but he talks like this shitfest is WWII and at the same time refuses to collect the taxes to properly fund the war.

Would ever send people to war without bothering to have a plan first? I don't understand why Americans aren't more pissed about this. To me, this is the ultimate betrayal of the people who have pledged their lives to protect us.

"WHY IS THIS A BIG DEAL?"

It's an abuse of power, genius.

"If the cop in question were beating up the sister-in-law of a Democratic governor, and tasering his child, I'm somewhat certain the predictable cadre of DR lefties would be easily roused to his defense."

I can tell you without a doubt that I could care less what party she's from. This is an abuse of power. If the stuff you are alleging really happened, they should have called the cops and had it documented. The didn't. Instead, they went the weasely route of going behind the scenes. So tought shit on them when they don't get their way.

Put yourself in the position of the guy being pressured to fire the trooper: Do you fire a man and deny him a living based solely on the word of his ex-sister in law? Does it seem fishy to you at all that this guy could such a maniac and not once did anyone call the cops on him? Do you consider at all that this trooper has a right to due process or do you fire him to score some brownie points?

He did the decent thing and didn't cave into pressure and got fired for it. We don't need more corrupt politicians who think they can just make up the rules as it suits them and I don't give a crap what party they are from...

"Yeah. At least your team doesn't have any player problems, you know, like sulky dissatisfied wide receivers."

Not sure if you're being serious (referring to TO) or sarcastic (referring to Plax).

Plax doesn't seem to be that popular with the rest of Giants, who mostly have great attitudes, but he doesn't really sulk. It is actually more annoying in a way. They suspend him. His backup puts up huge numbers. And he basically says he thought of it as an extra week's vacation..... But he did play hurt all year and Eli would have turned into a basket case two seasons agao were he not around so I can't really dislike him.

As for TO - I think he's the best receiver in the league. In order for him to hurt the team, he has to be one major asshole in the locker room. I don't think anyone takes him too seriously anymore. The media just pretends it does so they have a story....

"All dumpable offenses. I just don't get why we can't call eachother Child Chasers, Baby Bouncers, Kiddie Diddlers, Toddler Touchers, Teen Taggers, etc..."

How about if you just refer to someone as the King of Pop?

Or the King of Fucking Little Kids?

"Just a reflection of the latest trend. Party over Country. It has become blame Bush and the repubs for all your ills. Even going as far as voting for a sitting Senator who was handed both his State and US seats. Voting for someone who somehow thinks has earned and deserves to be POTUS during these times. Even though he has absolutley nothing in traditional, electable qualifications of most past Presidents."

Translation: My guy isn't going to win.

Boo hoo. Now you know how people who don't support Bush just because he has an R after his name feel about that accident of birth getting re-elected after he started a war for no reason and then couldn't be bothered to plan it properly, wasting the lives of thousands of Americans in the process. Talk about putting party over country.....

"Imagine you woke up on November 5 to find Barak Hussein Obama elected president of the United States and YOU COULD HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO PREVENT IT." Volunteered HOW, exactly? And Palin didn't say boo to a goose after this VERY incendiary remark."

I assumed he meant volunteer to help their shitty campaign.

"Sully, can you give us "Right Wing Sissies" one TRUE example of Racism being used by McCain and Palin?"

Armyof1 - I've actually posted a couple of times on this very thread saying I haven't seen any examples myself and saying that it bothers me that Obama supporters are constantly whining about this.

So other than you being retarded, I see no reason for you to address such a request to me.

"anyone else hear that pacman has already been arrested for assault

jerry jones.......nice pickup........."

If the charges have any truth to them, his recently lifted supsension should be back in full force plus some....

But the Cowboys get special treatment from the league on this kind of shit so he'll probably slide....

I really shouldn't be this bitter. I'm a Giants fan. Not only did we end their season last year but I think we have the better team this year.

"When libs are getting bitch slapped they always say in a lisp "You are thuch a rathist" as they paw like a cat."

As if the the GOP doesn't do the same thing when they whine about "big city elites" picking on "Joe Six pack" when someone rightfully points out that Sara Palin has no Earthly idea what the fuck she is blabbering about most of the time.

And I've also seen plenty of right wing sissies on this site resort to hiding behind "dead babies" when they get cornered on a thread that has nothing to do with abortion.

"Sully, I disagree with you. The Republicans are counting on racism. Polls show that even a percentage of Democrats view Obama's race as a factor in making their voting choice. As much as you or I would like to believe racism is a non-issue, it is a reality."

I didn't say that there aren't bigots who won't vote for Obama because he is black. There are older members of my own extended family who are terrified by Obama for no other reason. Those people are going to vote for McCain no matter what. What I don't find convincing is the arguement that McCain needs to constantly remind racsists that Obama is black. Who doesn't know the guy is black?

My point was that I don't want a president who can't be criticized because anyone who says anything bad about him is "racist". I shudder at the thought of an Obama presidency creating a new generations of Al Sharptons who will be making wild accusations on TV every day against any and all critics for his entire term. I take claims of racism seriously and don't think it is an accusation that should be tossed around lightly. The sad part is that Obama doesn't whine about race. It is his supporters that turn people off by bleating on and on about it.