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www.cdc.gov
All firearm deaths
• Firearm deaths by suicide:
..............................
............ 19,766..................19,392
• Firearm deaths by accident:
..............................
..........8 51......................606
• Firearm deaths caused by LEO (non-accidental):
.............258..............
........ 412

• Firearm deaths by homicide (total):
..............................
.11,101..... .............11,078
• Firearm homicides (gang related and included in total):......8,880 (80%)...........8,862 (80%)
• Firearm homicides (non gang and included in total):...........2,220 (20%)...........2,215 (20%)
• Firearm deaths of self defense*
and undetermined intent:
..............................
............. ..4,224....................4,6
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"No one is drawing any conclusions BEFORE science. The science is in. It's only the fossil fuel industry and their propaganda sources who act like it needs further study."

The science is in a state of constant flux. The main contributors have changed. Causes for the ice differences have changed. The impact has changed. The time frame has changed. That much is not deniable.
To say the science is settled is the antithesis of science itself.
As it changes and grows something closer to the actual truth. To claim it already has been reached is dumb.
It does not make you a denier to say we don't have all the facts even though that is what portrayed as by those who are insecure in their own beliefs.

"Why do you choose to go with the side that has every reason to lie to save their profits, instead of the side populated by scientists who know what they're talking about?"

Again thanks for the comic relief. It's always funny to see someone convinced that their side is not pushed by money.

"Hilarious that you suspect green energy proponents are in it for the money, when there is far more money on the fossil fuel side, yet you reserve no suspicion for them."

And you do not see the logical fail in that statement?
you think the world will change energy sources and the ones pushing it have no dog in the race? Seriously?

"yet you reserve no suspicion for them."
Untrue. Science is science it should all be regarded with skepticism regardless of the source.

"Keep squawking it though "green energy pipe dream!"
It's not me it's reality. It's not political, it's reason. It's not focusing on one tiny point it's the whole picture.

" History will prove you wrong again, just as it has always proved your kind wrong in the past."
My kind? Skeptics? As opposed to hippies who will buy anything that makes them feel warm as fuzzy as you seem to be party to?
Yeah, i'll take the skeptics. I feel more comfortable with the likes of Einstein, Frazier and Sagan you can have your discredited gore.

"The only reality preventing green energy is the republican party and their fossil fuel puppeteers."

Always good for a laugh. Pretending like those founded in legitimate science are the puppets and those who's education on the subject goes no deeper then a few internet memes are the ones with the truth.

Here is a hint, just because you have been told to hate oil companies does not mean they are a bogyman.

", and the LA air went from toxic and brown to clear"
You are joking right? It is one of the 3 worst cities in the country for air quality.

"They had studies saying there is no climate change. They were wrong."
They had studies that countered the various alarmists. Many of those studies ended up being more accurate. Global Cooling anyone?


"They had studies saying ok there might be climate change, but it's not influenced by humans. They were wrong."
No they had studies quantifying the contribution of humans. That has led to the inclusion of many different stimuli furthering the science.

"The latest line is - ok humans are changing the climate, but there's nothing we can do about it so we should just adapt."

Not true whatsoever.

The point is that when conclusion comes before science the science is corrupted. You need push from other sources to keep it honest. That has been the stance of many great scientists throughout the history of man.

" how long are you going to continue to believe the industries that have been proven over and over again to be incorrect or flat out liars who fill the debate with false propaganda?"

Again it is always good for a laugh to watch someone so indoctrinated as to believe that there is only one source and even though that source is in the same state of constant flux and changes their story no less then the other side they must be right.
It is also funny to assume that climate change people can only support green energy pipe dreams.
And again it is nothing short of hilarious to think that it is pushed for anything less then money.

In the very least it's a pot calling kettle black situation. Neither side has all the answers but if you choose to believe the contrived propaganda that is your decision.

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