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wonder if the people that offer the "we broke we own it" rule thinks that applies to Lybia? It's twice the disaster that Iraq is at best.

#8 | POSTED BY DALTON AT 2014-12-26 09:16 AM | REPLY | FLAG:CAN'T BE SERIOUS

Try backing that up with some facts. Don't really have any but you like the way that sounds ... well now ... Let me give you a starting place to jump off that cliff.

Typical Bush fashion with Cheney and Rove yanking hard on his nose ring Dubya took single handed credit for the disarmament of Libya pointing to the sound pummeling of Iraq as the intimidating gesture of U.S. might that caused Gaddafi to see the light. He even boasted of his part in Gaddafi's "renunciation of terrorism" in a state of the union speech.

Of course Bush didn't mention the little ditty that he hired al Queda to assassinate our Saudi ally Prince Abdula only a few months before when Bush was up to top of his waders in trying to explain why finding out there was no justification to go to war with Iraq was a good thing. Meahwhile... back at the discotheque Bush gave Gadaffi's a favored nation's chip and some cash (tax payers money) to help defray the costs of paying off the Lockerbie families even as Gaddafi's was gathering nuclear goods with ambitions to make weapons.

Funn-eh thang how the clown brigade loves to discuss the Iraq war failure as if the process was encapsulated in a singular fantasy circumstance called "Saddam is making nukes and is going to use them unless we stop him". It was much more than that. It was a whole marketing venture dreamed up by a republi....n group of megalomaniacs who after being bitch slapped by some boys with box cutters used the tragic opportunity to tell people to go shopping while they saved the day.. and immortalized themselves in the process.

The marketing of Libya was part of selling the justification of the Bush Doctrine. So yeah it is "part of what was broken"... what is occurring there now is not a new thing... it is the continuum of a long process.

That being said... I sincerely pray that whatever hopes the Jordanian pilot has as his purpose in placing himself be in harms way gives him strength.. and may this action not measure up to any significant victory for ISIL.

Oh wait..."end it" means "do it less"? Maybe it means hide it better.

This has got to be one of the most inane deflections out there. Consipiracy theories are perfect for frothing up the dumb when you desperately need some more of the hopey changey feelings you got when you talked about the trickle down economic utopia... or the rush like you expected with a televised war destined to show victory instead of the series of unraveling fantasies that you are now trying to blame on Obama.

That is right up there with the birther stupid... which I didn't think possible... but there ya go. You want us to believe that we think Obama is omniscient and knows every single thing going on... its part of your libruls think Obama is Christ nonsense.

I understand that there is the possibility that torture is going on... but I bet you won't find a trail leading to Obama or Biden the way you did to Bush Cheney and the rest of the wussie-set you put in charge of being stupid. I get it there are a lot of security contractors and military personal... with type A personalities and some serious anger issue upset about losing some swagger.

Ya see that is the big difference...Obama is not hot for a victory as much as a successful extraction from the idiocy bequeathed to him by the bozos you embraced with such unflinching loyalty.

Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, Rice and the rest of the stupid inserted into the scene by idiots wanting a president they felt they could drink a beer with. What you got for your vote were empty suits who sold the nation a short sited bill of goods and were desperate to deliver... and failed. Losing some serious face in the process.. in fact all their crack pipe dreams failed... except maybe their no dumb-@$$ left behind.. which as evidences by this spate of yammering is a screaming success...your secret torture sites put you at the head of the class.

Obama is much smarter than you are giving him credit for. He is not stupid enough to continue the bs policies that are an embarrassment for you. Grow a brain.

You are lying to yourself.

#16 | POSTED BY SHAWN AT 2014-12-13 11:42 AM | REPLY | FLAG:EYE ROLL

No he is not lying to himself. But... YOU are being incredibly stupid insisting that is the case based on recycled rumors you've read about.

Obama signed an executive order banning the use. Now do you think he is stupid enough to release this if he were continuing the policies he banned?

I realize he can't be everywhere at once...but if it were continued I do not believe it was done under the auspices of his office... maybe some of the pig brained die hards... but then even in the civilian world we have to listen to pathetic yammering neocon wannabe die hards.

I do however believe when it was done during Bush administration it was done with complete awareness by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, Rice et al. 9/11/01 Bush had egg on his face...the CIA had egg on their face big bad ass (R)Klownz in charge of all things in government had egg on their faces for standing stupid and allowing the nation to be attacked by foreign entity on its own soil for the first time in its history. Yep the big on all things defense (R)Klownz demonstrated they were incapable of protecting the nations in spite of all their bluster to the contrary.
Bush held a televised war to over throw Saddam insisting he had WMDs... he even threw a war of twice the cost of the one against the nation that played a part in harboring bin Laden and his associates. He came up with egg on his face again... you don't think he would employ enhanced interrogation to find out why no one showered the troops with rose water and rice?

Obama has no ego trip tied to these wars. The time line for leaving Iraq was settled before he took office. There may be some ego trip tied to the GITMOO closing and this revelation may go a long way in making that happen by generating enough outrage to make it happen. It is going to shine a light on congressional policies creating the legal stasis keeping GITMO still occupied.

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