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Sunday, June 22, 2014

A Webster, Texas, man said his apartment complex manager told him the U.S. flag he was displaying on his balcony must be taken down because it was a "threat to the Muslim community." Duy Tran is defying the order. "It means a lot to me," he said of the flag, which he proudly put up when he moved in a few days earlier. An apartment manager at the Lodge on El Dorado quickly told him he had to take it down. "I'm gonna leave my flag there, as an American, until she shows me proof that I don't have the right to leave my flag there," he said. read more


Friday, May 09, 2014

During a speech in Rome Friday to U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and other U.N. leaders, Pope Francis called for governments to redistribute wealth to the poor to curb the "economy of exclusion" that is taking hold today. More equal economic progress can be had through "the legitimate redistribution of economic benefits by the state, as well as indispensable cooperation between the private sector and civil society," Francis said. read more


Singer Bob Geldof believes that the root of the terror in Nigeria stems from poverty and discontent.

"Boka Haram is an excrescence of poverty, as famine is, as hunger is, as corruption is, as war is, as lack of education and health is," he said.

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"I acknowledge the concept, I know that today it's called the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Wrong."

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights doesn't really address natural rights, at least not in full. Freedom from fear, for instance, isn't feasible (although I don't think the intent was freedom from all fear). Nor is freedom from want, at least not unless there is another component obligating to provide the means that allows one to experience freedom from want without providing anything in return.

"and I understand that absent a government to enforce your rights, you have none."

You prove yourself wrong in this next sentence. Thanks, you saved me the trouble:

"Where are the "natural rights" of Cubans and North Koreans? Of blacks when we had slavery? Obviously "natural rights" don't exist. Like "free market" it is an ideal to strive for. It's a name we hang on an idea."

Those natural rights were abrogated, through the actions of the governments you mention. In fact the biggest threat to natural rights are government. As you have so acutely pointed out.

"It does not match the definition of a "program", a government doesn't not have a "free market" program, but certainly a government creates an environment, which is more concise, and my point."

Yeah. I'm not sure how you could submit that a child trading marbles for hotwheels, or a Russian trading a fur hat for Levis, or a Somalian trading coal for Khat are examples of a government programs. but it si very easy to demonstrate that they took place within the context of a free market.

"The on of the points of a government IMO, is to create a stable economic environment."

Why? If you control the government, you want to create economic policy that benefits and protects you.


"Some on here obviously think the 'bill of regulations' is the government telling people what they can do. Amazing stuff."

but it's a position that Snoofy consistently supports. That government is needed to give the people permission to do something, otherwise they would lack that "right." Basically, he does not ackowledge the concept of natural rights. It's a convenient argument if you want to disregard the concept of natural rights, as they would challenge the concept of a society where government was the sole determinor of what is or isn't a right.

"MadBomber feels it necessary to believe the existence of black markets proves that free markets lack coercive mechanisms."

The cosersive presence that needs to be present in the black market is the force opposing it. The rest of your argument in favor of regulation is baseless. If consumers were concerned about operating in an unregulated market, there would not have been a black market. No one forced it to happen. It was the result of a government plan. It was a freely and natrually occuring transaction between willing participants.

"Only if you don't want freedom to endure."

How exactly does "freedom" endure in an environment where, by definition, government prohibits me from acting freely? Is this like the "freedom is slavery" argument? The fact that I need to eat and drink and breath makes me a slave to biologiocal necessity, and the only way to free me of that slavery is to ensure that someone or something does all of those things for me?

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