Kanrei, NW on that.
Tried to say that a few times on here but some didn't get it.
Reminds me of a time a friend and I went to one of our town meetings because after school kids would race thru his neighborhood. The intent was to bring it to their attention and maybe get a patrol car to be around during that time.
Their proposed solution was to put up a sign. When they said that my friend stood up and asked what would that sign accomplish that the other two failed at.
They looked at him funny and asked what signs he was talking about. He looked at me like they were retarded and replied "uhm, the big red one that reads Stop, and the one that reads speed limit 25"
Needless to say, nothing was done, not even the proposed sign.