Like I said I don't think anybody is happy about it but it just has to be to protect us.

#60 | Posted by gtjr

Get thee behind me satan. j/k, but i really believe this type of mentality (arrogant, scared, paranoid and selfish) is what caused those laws to be passed to begin with.

You were never in danger. never. and yet, you would willingly trade your sacred freedoms for the illusion of safety. i believe old ben franklin had some choice words to say about that.

What a sad pathetic lot the right has become.

So, if the TP does not want to try to remove the laws that invalidated the constitution in the first place, then let's have no more talk of how the high and mighty tea party is all about protecting and preserving the constitution.

Once again, the TP'ers do not understand what a NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION is.

Boy scouts is owned by United Way. United way is a non-profit organization. They don't pay taxes because they are for the social benefit of all, not just the wingnut religious contingency.

I find it hilarious that someone said 'if you can't follow the rules, then find another organization'. It is the Boy Scouts and the United Way who were not in compliance of the rules.

You cannot be a non-profit and violate the civil rights laws.

And another thing, we need to remove religion from them anyway, you see what perverts unchecked religion produces...... just saying...

Jesus was gay. But he wasn't in the scouts.

Hitler was a zionist too.

Movies taught me that losers like me always end up with the hottest girl.

Movies lied!

#51 | Posted by kanrei

Now that's funny. Maybe you haven't done that heroic thing yet. (saved the boat, saved the town, saved her grandma's mortgage, etc....)

But all you Jew haters will fight to the end to insist that your hatred of Israel is somehow magically separated from a hatred of Jews.

#35 | Posted by moder8

Moder, it's almost slappin' time again. Israel is made up of Jews, christians and arabs mostly. They also have B'nai and a few other religions too.

Can't understand the difference between a religion and a country?

Israel = a country
Jew = a religion
Sh*t, Shinola, etc.....

Kudzu, your hatred of Jews is bringing out the Alabaman in you.

#32 | Posted by moder8

I don't hate jews. I hate political extremists....from any country.

And there are no more fanatic right wing extremists than in the israeli knesset. Their TP'ers are even worse than ours.

Your average jew and your average israeli is nothing to be hated. I am lucky to call some of both my friends. They hate the zionists more than i do. Of all the israelis and the jews I have met, I only met one person who agrees with the zionists.

#28 - and then became rich.

#26 - maybe israel will have to start acting like there are other people on this planet. I'm just joking. Isreal will never act that way.

Movies taught me that no man and woman ever liked each other when they first met. They can only fall in love after one of them does something heroic.

A sub- lesson here is that no one has sex just for the fun of it.

Movies taught me that you can rebuild a car or remoodel a house within the time it takes to play an 80s music montage.

I think most people can agree that Sting is a canker sore on the butt of music.

Mt head, full magazine.

The police are unfairly targeting people who break the law. It's all obamas'fault too.

-----the right------

#47 - i would be very interested in discussing what the president is doing. But, we can't, because all that has been politically diverted by knee-jerk accusations.

I would also be interested in discussing what lawmakers are doing, but we can't do that either, because fox news doesn't deem it important enough to cover. And give you your talking points.

I notice you are long on criticism of this article, but offer no valid argument about why it is not true, except that it hurts your feelings. Typical tea party reaction.

Btw, this problem actually started with the SCOTUS decision in the Citizens United case (companies are people too). One of the vehicles a group can use to funnel corporate money to political causes is through a 501c4.

After this scotus decision, which was praised by wingnuts, requests from right wing political groups to get the 5o1c4 designation skyrocketed. The problem came about when these same groups forgot to follow the existing rules of being a 501c4.

The IRS correctly percieved what these groups were doing and set out to root them out. It was not a coincidence that the groups breaking the law, i.e. the flood of new applications, were mostly extremists right wing groups.

The IRS allows an org to operate under a designation they expect to get later, as long as they operate under the rules of that designation while they are waiting for official approval.

Then, when the IRS exposed their corruption they started whining they were being targeted.

I am not one of those people that think the TPP group was formed exclusively to rid the presdency of a black president. But, the fact that the democrat president is black helps bring in new members, especially those who do not see this country as a multi-racial, multi-cultural community.

Wanna discuss how many tea party members are not old white people?

If the TPP was true to it's mission, it wouldn't be in bed with the extremist fringe of the Gop, especially considering the fact that they are at least 50% responsible for the very things the TPP claims to be fighting.

But the unvarnished truth is much simpler. Either they are lying about their mission or they are willfully ignorant about their membership and about how the problems first started.

TPP - YOU want to fight for the constitution? Lets see you mount an effort to rescind the Patriot Act and the Homeland Security Act (both were passed in republican administrations).

#28 - danni, i'm no expert but i believe it had to do with a non-profits need to raise money.

For those of you who have never looked into it, understanding the 'actual language' of the description of what a 501 organization or a 527 organization can and cannot do is pretty simple. However, there are gray areas, but you can always go ask the IRS to make a ruling on those gray areas.

In any event, if you are hovering on the edge of compliance or not, the IRS still has to make the final determination. One thing they do not like is for you to acquire one designation, then do something other than what you said you were going to do when you applied for that designation. That is why there are so many different types of designations.

My wife and I have studied 501(c)3 organizations because we are thinking about starting one to be a non-profit advocacy organization to help parents of autistic children navigate the byzantine educational system. Indirectly, these groups are allowed to operate tax-free because they pump money and services back into the community.

You almost have to be willfully ignorant and criminally negligent to get confused between what a non-profit and/or a political organization are for.

I will not hide the fact that I detest the TP organization with every fibre of my being, but I am even more pissed because they are causing harm to all the 'real and helpful' 501 organizations that do actual good work for people - all people.

...the man's taxe situation has nothing to do with the organization

#21 | Posted by afkabl2

Wow, how obtuse can you be? An accountant with a history of tax fraud has nothing to do with the fact that the organization is caught engaging in tax fraud?

That's like saying, the pastors' past child molestation charges have nothing to do with whether he should be put in charge of the childrens program.

But, this is not about him, this is about the Grandfather Tea organization and what they told the satelite organizations to do - i.e. how to handle the IRS taxation designations. This guy will probably end up going to jail.

What I don't understand is what they THOUGHT their end game would be. I mean even if they did get Obama removed from office, it still would not remove them from responsibility of the crimes they have committed.

It's very easy to believe outlandish theories when the truth is outlandish.

Do you realize technology is almost to the point where every single human body on earth can be analyzed, counted, collected and controlled? In the past, people have always imagined some kind of physical or psychological control. No one ever dreamed society would be controlled by a database.

The cool thing about it is that master control doesn't have to bind you. The earth is your prison. Your hunger will be your teacher.

It's very easy to believe outlandish theories when the truth is outlandish.

Do you realize technology is almost to the point where every single human body on earth can be analyzed, counted, collected and controlled? In the past, people have always imagined some kind of physical or psychological control. No one ever dreamed society would be controlled by a database.

The cool thing about it is that master control doesn't have to bind you. The earth is your prison. Your hunger will be your teacher.

#65- mssgt, i know your vocation is taking orders, but you don't have to take orders from the nuttiest of wingnut fanatics. I would love to make a wager in your point.

Yes the irs is very diligent about targeting people and groups that forget to pay their taxes. They have always done so.

It's just the same old story. Wingnuts thinking they are somehow immune....and special. The only thing special i see about them is their amazing lack of intellect and common sense.

#14 - prove it! I will admit it if you are able to do so. (I wasn't joking about first reading about this on a right wing think tank website).