There is no such thing as a generic god--and the pledge is specific about the Christian God

I guess the Jews should be up in arms then?

The Knights of Columbus in New York City felt that the pledge was incomplete without any reference to a deity.[4] Appealing to the authority of Abraham Lincoln, the Knights felt that the words "under God" which were from Lincoln's Gettysburg Address were most appropriate to add to the Pledge.

A deity. Not "the" deity.

Eisenhower said

These words ["under God"] will remind Americans that despite our great physical strength we must remain humble. They will help us to keep constantly in our minds and hearts the spiritual and moral principles which alone give dignity to man, and upon which our way of life is founded.

No mention of Christianity there. You libtards are always saying that it is BS that the US was founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs so what the heck was Eisehower talking about?

As usual, a hard left deflection but nary a thought to be found. Still think Rev. Wright grasps racial issues better than me HERM?

If in California, or whatever state you happen to hang your hat in right now, they voted that you should be castrated, spayed or otherwise surgically altered, would you) accept that decision or ask for judicial review?

Equating the redefinition of "marriage" to being castrated is ludicrous. There are "laws" in every state which we did not "vote" for but must accept HERM - where the hell have you been?

evolve into REAL human beings. herm

We on the DR still wait for that day to come for you HERMAN.

BB - how about Dio - I mean if we were going to rewrite the word God in a different language, Italian is prettier.

Does the pledge say "under Christian God"? Nope. Does the pledge say "under Jewish God"? Nope.
Does the pledge say "under Muslim God" Nope.

Replacing it with "Allah" is a language issue not a religious one. "God" is generic in the pledge. The pledge is written in AMERICAN ENGLISH so the word used is God. If it was written in arabic it would be Allah - nuff said.

Well, Cidney, how would you respond if it was "one nation under Allah"? In a generic way, of course. herm

Allah (Arabic: الله‎, Allāh, IPA: [ʔalˤːɑːh] pronunciation (helpinfo)) is the standard Arabic word for 'God.'

It already is. Care to try again?

I surely doubt that Billy struggles with ANYthing.-HERMAN MUNSTER

Nothing I can't handle HERMIE- especially old toads past their prime who think themselves as the end all be all judgement of right and wrong. And to my credit, I meant what I said about the rape issue - unlike you, I have definite compassion for innocent life - whereas you have compassion for...wait compassion is the wrong word, admiration for doctors and mothers who allow innocent life to be scraped and sucked out of a mothers womb.

I am sure there are no mirrors in your house HERM, otherwise you are a souless creature to be able to look into the abyss that is yourself. More is the pity.

Spud largely suspects that Obama might be the Best POTUS EVAR

ODS runs deep in this one! Next you will get that twinge up your leg and wet yourself.

ELCID hopes you are right - it does the country no good to have a failed presidency no matter the party or the individual. The hope is for American success - if it comes under Obama - I am 100% behind it. I do not have the confidence that you do however.

People such as Christine and ElCid obviously don't mind excluding a segment of the population

Nope, not at all. You absolutely cannot please all the people all the time. This bullshit about not "offending" people is just that, bullshit. You don't mind excluding a majority of the population. Don't like it? Vote to change it. That usually works - except in California where they overturn the will of the people.

When did Congress decide we would invade and occupy Iraq?

Washington, October 11: Ignoring fierce international opposition, the US Congress authorised George W. Bush to take a unilateral decision to invade Iraq, with an upbeat President saying Saddam Hussein must be confronted "fully and finally".

The House of Representatives and the Senate adopted a resolution authorising Bush to launch what could become the world's first preemptive war against Iraq -- a war not in response to something Baghdad has done lately but due to apprehensions that he may use weapons of mass destruction against America and its allies.

The vote in the House of Representatives was 296 to 133 and in the Senate 77 to 23.

Reacting to the Congress decision Bush said: "The gathering threat of Iraq must be confronted fully and finally. The days of Iraq acting as an outlaw state are coming to an end."

"America sneezes, Canada catches cold"

Funny, down here we have a saying. "If Canada sneezes, would anyone hear it?"

BTW spud, "Spud has come to blogworld to alter that status quo in his own small starchy way." - gotta call BS on that - nobody's opinion is changed on the DR - maybe DANNI switching from Clinton to Obama, but otherwise it is a BS blogsite in which you feel it necessary to bloviate for self gratification - your above soliloquy is proof. Get over yourself. When you show concern for dealings in your own country your criticisims may have more worth - until then, you come across as JD stated - a blogger with America Envy.

"under God" undermines the unity of the American people because not all Americans believe in the concept of "God" - DUMMI

Taking "under God" out of the pledge undermines the unity of the American people because a majority of Americans believe in the concept of "God".

DANNI - this just in, the other 37 states are pissed off that they do not have a stripe on the flag. Your state is one of them!

the great sky god?

PROFILE
Given Name: Kweku Anansi
Father: Nyame, the Great Sky God
Mother: Asase Ya, Earth goddess / Goddess of Fertility

Missed that in CCE. Oh well. 2.1 billion people with the wool pulled over their eyes. You must be right of course.

Only whackos like you worship space aliens and think you are holy--and sane. Of course you probably believe that the immaculate conception was between Mary and Jesus.

#56 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob
FF for the tinfoil wearer!

What happened to reproductive freedom in your rush to "choose life"? -

Who is denied the right to reproduce?

How would you propose that the state enforce your desire for every woman to carry to term?

I have no "realistic" answer to that problem BETELG. As I so stated above. The "State" is a government of the people - if the people choose to vote allowing abortions to be legal, only the people can vote to change the law. I don't believe the "state's" mind can be changed - it should not have one apart from the "elected" officials the people place into office-reflecting their views and ideals.

Take your own advice, and vote to allow a state sponsorship of religious belief.

#50 | Posted by Danforth

Nice deflection, again the question is asked "which religion does under god establish?".

And most of us get pagan holiday xmas off from work

#51 | Posted by Bani
Just because the date was chosen to compete with rituals by pagan holidays does not make Christmas "pagan". Only libtards like yourself believe Christ was born Dec. 25th. Of course you probably believe that the immaculate conception was between Terry Bradshaw and Franco Harris.

Very scary. Will obama change this? If not - no difference between the parties. No change.

How would you propose that the state enforce your desire for every woman to carry to term?-BETELG

As I said above, I flounder over this question. Does the pain and suffering of the mother outway the innocent life? There is no "easy" answer. The easiest would be to outlaw all abortions or to allow all abortions. Either way, someone suffers. Free will is a bitch isn't it? I tend to lean towards the choice of life however.

Spudly is just another Canuck with America envy.

FACT!

-worth repeating, again and again.

Well, perhaps with a gun in her face it would teach the woman to keep "her legs crossed" -

So now you are saying that outside of rape pregnancy is still not the woman's choice? Please. If you can't keep your dick in your pants or your legs crossed your a pretty sad individual. Oh yeah I forgot - "if it feels good-do it".

After twelve years of analysis, both houses of the US Congress held separate inquiries into the allegations and concluded that the charges were groundless.

~Squiddly Diddly

Actually WIKI, but I am sure I can find another source with the same results for you spud-have to go to conspiracy sites to find the answer you want however.

Spud has some land he'd like to sell ya. - No thanks - been to Canada once - that was enough.

Keep up the conspiracy theories spud and you will have to live with boob.

I've always laughed at pro-lifers who say "except in the case of rape". I guess fetuses that are the result of rape aren't real people to them.
Also, why don't they protest in front of fertility clinics? Plenty of eggs meet their doom in those places.

#148 | Posted by RastaCyborg

Actually, I really struggle with rape pregnancy. The pain of the mother having to endure a child which brings back memories of the awful event vs. the life of an innocent. I was more referring to her "choice" not to have sex rather than her "choice" to have sex. Keeping her legs crossed always results in a non-pregnancy - except in one case.

Sure. And you don't get my tax dollars to invade and occupy countries that are no threat to the security of the US. You also don't get my tax dollars to torture people or lock them up for eternity with no review or Habeas Corpus rights.

#46 | Posted by BetelG

As you and others have shown, the initial argument about what "others" can do with "your" tax dollars is silly. Vote to change the law(s) you don't like - otherwise we all have to pay for things we don't agree with - don't we?

But since the Constitution bars establishing a religion, you lose.

#43 | Posted by Danforth

Under God - which religion is that actually establishing?

I help but wonder how Billy El Cid feels about war, tax breaks for billionaires on his bucks, bailing out corporations with billionaire CEOs. Would Billy like Planned Parenthood if it received no tax-financed subsidies? herm

Against them all thank you very much. The banks, like the auto industry should fail and start over again with better management, and better consumer protection - not a huge amount of new regulation but rather better enforcement of the regulations we already have.

Planned Parenthood - nope. As I assume you already new.

whose women all keep their legs together - don't own any "women" HERM

Ah yes, the "mistake" of getting pregnant - except for rape, pregnancy is never a mistake. 100% sure fire way of not getting pregnant - works EVERY time - keep your legs crossed - unfortunately for the world, your mother did not. Many lives have been lost because of it.

Making love - right HERM. You who doesn't even love life enough to respect the begining of it.

mistakes treated before those mistakes become real - and your against the death penalty?