"We stopped trusting the Jews a long time ago"

Just so everyone is clear who MANYPATHS is :

"Fuck the Jews, the Jews are a criminal people, they mutilate their children, they are murderous, criminal, thieving, lying, bastards.

Posted by Manypaths at 2008-01-25 12:51 PM | Reply"

So its clear MP is a genuine a bigot and a hater - but THAT'S not the point.
MP isn't worth the turd in my ass

But the future of this country IS at stake and 650,000 Jewish votes could swing the State of Florida one way or another whether you like it or not.

Older Jews are concerned about Obama and concerned about the Democratic Party because Republicans can point to dirtbags like ManyPaths sitting on a Progressive web sites spewing hatred about Jews and can point out that NO ONE CALLS THE SCUMBAG OUT ON IT ergo they obviously agree or at best are indifferent

Think about folks ... there have always been and will always be dirtbags like MP who hate Jews. Its been that way throughout history. But if YOU ALL don't stand up to it, then it can and it will be exploited and used against your own interests.

I've been working in the Obama campaign and we need Florida and we need all votes but especially Jewish votes or what happened in 2000 and 2004 could happen again.

Connect the dots and shut these haters down .... or suffer the consequences

Why was Bani banned?

This for one ...

curious how even Bani understood he was walking over the line when he posted it.

It seems Bani believes as long as he posts just the "links" to his favorite raving Jew bash sites, that his hands are clean and he gets a free pass -

Sorry Bani, but you aren't as clever as you think you are.

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#198 | Posted by Bani at 2008-10-01 12:26 AM | Reply | Flag:##

What's typical MW is your same old know nothing ignorant post.

As usual you have nothing to contribute.
But clearly still in terrible need of attention

Moneywar - the DR 's very own Sarah Palin

"Good to see that Jews and Muslims can finally agree on something.....stoning their women when the men get aroused seeing an ankle."

the Jews ? As in ALL the Jews? Or a tiny minority of Jewish fundamentalists who may believe this ?
And what's more its AGAINST THE LAW in Israel

And that COMMONSENSE ... is not only different from the Muslim countries but about a 180 degrees different.
A polar opposite if you will.

The Jews who do this in Israel are arrested because its against the law, the Muslims are obeying their law.

And that in case you can't see it ... is a
BIG difference.

me = my

(unless I'm in pirate mode)

Yeah and meanwhile while we're waiting for everyone else to start voting for third party candidates, we get four years of McCain and perhaps Sarah Palin?

Sully ....

What's the big deal?

BANI has been posting this sort of Holocaust and Jew bashing crap for a long long time here and no one ever says anything.

But let Hannity have one of these cretins on his show and suddenly many of you find your decency?

When Bani returns from exile in a week or so, lets see if any of you get all indignant when he posts one of his plausible denial anti semitic links to YouTube - which as sure as the sun rises, Bani will do as he cannot resist the urge.

Will any of you bashing Hannity speak up when its Bani?

I won't hold me breath.

Sully ... voting for Nader got us Bush and by voting for him again or the Libertarian you are VOTING FOR McCain. Is that really what you want?

come on ... I don't believe it.

First to get it straight, I think they ought to take all these people on Wall Street outside and shoot them.

Now that we got that straight.
Obama voted for the 700 billion dollar package, because it was a needed psychological wall to prevent an instant collapse follwed by a panic.

I agree that 700 billion when we're probably talking more like 50 - 60 trillion stolen these last few years can't possibly prevent what will probably happen no matter what.

Nevertheless, at least the fall will be slower and softer rather then a hard collapse followed by an immediate panic which could have caused all sorts of other things to occur.

Sully Sully .. come on.
Israel would have happily sent its IAF to bomb the shit out of Iraq after they fired SCUD's into Israeli cities.

They were stopped by Bush

As for Israeli contributions to its American ally :

The United States benefited from the use of Israeli-made Have Nap air-launched missiles on its B52 bombers. The Navy, meanwhile, used Israeli Pioneer pilotless drones for reconnaissance in the Gulf.

Israel provided mine plows that were used to clear paths for allied forces through Iraqi minefields.

Mobile bridges flown directly from Israel to Saudi Arabia were employed by the U.S. Marine Corps.

Israeli recommendations, based upon system performance observations, led to several software changes that made the Patriot a more capable missile defense system.

Israel Aircraft Industries developed conformal fuel tanks that enhanced the range of F15 aircraft. These were used in the Gulf.

General Dynamics has implemented a variety of Israeli modifications to improve the worldwide F16 aircraft fleet, including structural enhancements, software changes, increased capability landing gear, radio improvements and avionic modifications.

An Israeli-produced targeting system was used to increase the Cobra helicopter's night-fighting capabilities.

Israel manufactured the canister for the highly successful Tomahawk missile.

Night-vision goggles used by U.S. forces were supplied by Israel.

A low-altitude warning system produced and developed in Israel was utilized on Blackhawk helicopters.

Other Israeli equipment provided to U.S. forces included flack vests, gas masks and sandbags.

Israel offered the United States the use of military and hospital facilities. U.S. ships utilized Haifa port shipyard maintenance and support on their way to the Gulf.

Israel destroyed Iraq's nuclear reactor in 1981. Consequently, U.S. troops did not face a nuclear-armed Iraq.

Is that enough for you?

Now excuse me while I go and work to elect Barack Obama and Joe Biden as I hope you are also doing.

Sully, first I was responding to an argument that Israel isn't important perhaps crucial to American interests in the region.

My response is perhaps we ought to depend on our other "allies" in the region like Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia or I would have added Lebanon however its now a wholly owned subsidiary of Iran.

No Sully, I wasn't suggesting Israel is going to fight Russia. As I pointed out above, there are other ways to provide support. How about on the ground intel with people who speak the language given America has few who speak Arabic.

And Tosser ...

From over here in the midst of a Presidential campaign, it appeared the the Bush administration might have made a deal with Putin to provide him with an excuse to move into Georgia (allowing his new President Medvedev to play to the Russian nationalists) thus making our political campaign's subject of debate "National Security" where McCain was the stronger of the two candidates.

And that effectively put McCain close if not ahead of Obama until the subject was changed to the failing economy putting Obama ahead ...

Just my speculation what that was all about.

Crucial to American interests?

Do you think as the Russian bear awakes and gets closer to regimes like for example the regime in Iran, we could just as easily depend on Egypt or Jordan to safeguard US interests ain this region?

Notice how quickly Hezbollah recently took over Lebanon's government?

I've already stated my opinion about all fundamentalism.

Hmmmm I could swear you posted this:

"We are fighting two wars. But we "can't" use them to help. I guess they also "can't" relieve US forces in other parts of the world in order to free up resources for our war effort. It isn't a matter of "can't". It is a matter of won't."

I think its clear what you said, and clear that its just not accurate ...

"The Israeli government uses public funds to encourage and support Jews who are looking to emigrate. It doesn't do this for other groups. Because Israel is a Jewish state and they talk about their need to keep a Jewish identity and a Jewish majority." ?

So what?

Why would I pretend not to know Israel uses public funds to help Jews return home? Its a Jewish State so what's surprising about helping more Jews come home?

Israel's raison d'etre is a re establishment of the Jewish State and the return of the Jewish people to their historical home where they were forced out by invaders centuries ago.

Sully, can you wrap your mind around the notion that many Jews are agnostic and don't observe Judaism at all. Many are more or less just "cultural" Jews but nevertheless are still Jews?

Clearly you don't know or understand much history Sully ..

America NEVER supported Israel until the late 1960's.
In all the wars Israel fought until that period, America stayed neutral. In 1948, despite Israel being facing 100 to 1 - the entire Arab world and every Arab army attacking, America STAYED OUT.
Israel had to buy weapons from the Czechs, the French but not America.

Know why Sully?
Because the Soviets were pouring money and arms into Eyria and Egypt. Suddenly, America took an interest in Israel and only because we wanted to stop the Soviets. Its' called ELF INTEREST.

US weapons were field tested and used by Israelis in subsequent wars. Israel provided America with ports for its fleet in the region. Israel provided intel for America in regard to the Soviet client States.

And about your claim that Israel never fought along side of America - its certainly not because they didn't want to or try to.

Fast forward to first Iraq war. Bush Sr. specifically wanted the Israelis to stay away so he could organize an Arab front in the coalition.
Saddam understanding this fired SCUDs into Israel trying to drag them into the war which would have pushed the Arab nations out. The Israelis scrambled their jets ready to fly to Baghdad, my cousin among them but Bush ordered them to stand down. Got that?
Bush ORDERED THEM TO STAND DOWN ...

and the IAF remained on the tarmac at the request of the US President.

Funny about the anti Israel Left - they will accuse the Israelis of flying US jets in Iraq to hide the fact that they are Israelis, but at the same time accuse the Israelis of never fighting and using AIPAC to force Americans to fight for Israel. BOTH are lies as usual.

"We here in this thread, are concerned with why Israelis are beating up people in the streets and how bad they treat blacks. That sorta thing."

Hi Tosser ...

Problem is your making sweeping generalizations aren't you?

Israelis are NOT beating people up and they aren't this or that way towards black Israelis - some Israelis are.

Its about some people Tosser and not an entire society.

Fundamentalism is fundamentalism whether its Christianity, Judaism or Islam. It's all idiotic and in some instances downright dangerous.
But if we're really intellectually honest, it would be very difficult to make the argument that a small minority of idiotic fundamentalist Jews compares in any way to what we see in the Islamic world.

In Israel these people are BREAKING THE LAW .. and are at least supposed to be arrested or as in the case of the Canadian woman who was attacked on a bus, they are hauled into court.

In the Islamic countries, it's hardly against any law.

Just read Ayaan Hirsi Ali's book "Infidel" if you need some proof of this.

But more importantly why was this article even posted here?

MODER8 's point was :

"As time passes, Israel increasingly resembles its religious extremist neighbors."

"The only difference being that Israel is Jewish, and the neighbors are all fundamentalist Islamic societies."

"At what point does the behavior within Israeli society begin to affect the level of support the U.S. provides?"

But all the above are just blatant lies.

As time passes, Israel increasingly resembles its religious extremist neighbors?

Really?

Had you only read the article instead of using it to further your racism MODERN8 you would have seen this:

"The violence has already deepened the antagonism between the 600,000 haredim, or God-fearing, and the secular majority, which resents having religious rules dictated to them."

600,000 ?
And to you this resembles Egypt or Syria or Hezbollah in Lebanon where this sentiment represents not a small minority of 600,000 but the law of these lands.

You are either really stupid or have an agenda.
The answer to that is here:

"The only difference being that Israel is Jewish, and the neighbors are all fundamentalist Islamic societies."

So to you its all about Israel being Jewish?
Jews have some sort of privilege? What exactly do you mean MODERN8?

Why not explain exactly what you mean or do you want to keep the illusion that you aren't an anti semite?

"Yet, Israel is run by European Jewish people. Arab-Jews... who never had problem with the Muslims they lived with for a thousand years.... are not in control. They never are."

Oh Tosser, spreading lies that Muslims & Jews got along before Israel?

Lets fact check shall we ?

(The actual truth is that Jews were dhimmis under Muslims who often murdered them at will or for trumped up excuses like ritual murders AND long before you Muslims could use the convenient excuse of "Zionism")

from Wiki

"Pogroms spread through the Middle East and North Africa: Aleppo (1850, 1875), Damascus (1840, 1848, 1890), Beirut (1862, 1874), Dayr al-Qamar (1847), Jerusalem (1847), Cairo (1844, 1890, 1901-02), Mansura (1877), Alexandria (1870, 1882, 1901-07), Port Said (1903, 1908), Damanhur (1871, 1873, 1877, 1891), Istanbul (1870, 1874), Buyukdere (1864), Kuzguncuk (1866), Eyub (1868), Edirne (1872), Izmir (1872, 1874) - these are just key cases."

"It's going to be a very close election."

GZLives says not...what does he know ~ you don't?:>)

What do I think (Tali) bani ?

Very much like Obama, that Americans aren't really as stupid as you and your far left cretins - or the far right think we are.

In the end they will not vote Republican and not buy into the current wave.

The GOP ticket in the last days will collapse and resort to a all out race baiting campaign and go down in flames by a landslide.

That's what I think

Sorry, but Creationists do not get to be a heartbeat away from any President much less one that's a cancer surviving 72 year old.

This one is an insult to every voter

Ahh here come the Fascist Jew hating thought police from the Left to remind me why I hate this place while I also love it.

You really think I'm going to waste my time responding to your ignorant spew?

Fuck off and die scum ...

Now do you believe its me Dave ?

And for those who have the urge to bash me using the excuse that I'm only interested in Israel - meaning I'm uninterested in America, its the Creationist thing that rings the alarm bell for me.

We cannot have a Creationist in a position as influential and important and most importantly symbolic as a VP of the USA in the year 2008.

In my opinion that would send the wrong message.

No Dave .. I am GZ and there's no way I'd ever vote for a Creationist.

First of all I was a Biden supporter. I contributed a lot of money to him during the campaign and so I couldn't think of a better VP and advisor.

Second, I've come to understand Obama and respect where he's coming from. Why do you think he beat Hillary Dave?

Barry Obama is a midwestern kid who spoke to Iowans like he was speaking to his own grandparents, because thats who his grandparents are.

They'd (Republicans) like to make him into some Black pol completely owned by the Democrat machine in Chicago, but that would be absurd.

He's much more of a typical American then McCain or Hillary was, and that's why he connected so well.

You know how much I support Israel Dave, and you will not find a bigger supporter then Joe Biden and I believe Obama will do the right thing in this regard as well.

Am I being naive? I don't think so Dave. It would be naive to think McCain won't throw Israel under the bus the moment Exxon tells him to for the sake of the Saudis. The GOP is now owned by oil interests or do you think Alaska's Sarah Palin just popped out of thin air? She's a creation of US oil interests and as long as that doesn't conflict with Saudi Arabian interests, Israel will be OK under McCain. But the minute the Saudis have a problem, Israel will be quickly forgotten.

I do not believe that would happen under Obama. I can't be sure of course, and it is an educated gut feeling but there it is.

I am indeed GZ and I approve this post

That issue is way more complex than many would like to think, and so its important having someone in there who can grasp the complexities or haven't you learned that yet from the previous 8 years.

Same here Zed

Most people will draw the line at Creationism ... thankfully we're now far from the days of the Scopes Trial and if the Republicans believe they can drag us back to that, they're sadly mistaken.

Creationism and those who believe it are perfectly entitled to believe it of course, but stay the f**k away from the Executive office ..

Obama is more of a typical American then McCain will ever be

McCain is an elitist, an Admiral's privileged son while Obama is a poor single mom's kid raised mostly in Kansas ... a white single mom by the way.

Get ready for an Obama landslide