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      <title>Poll: 54% of Repubs Think ACORN Stole Election</title>
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      <description>The new national poll from Public Policy Polling (D) has an astonishing number about paranoia among the GOP base: Republicans do not think President Obama actually won the 2008 election -- instead, ACORN stole it.</description>
      <wordzilla:extended>Many Righties' expressed thoughts seem to reflect an excursion into a state consciousness that lies well beyond conventional norms, a journey into the realm of an alternate reality could even be described as psychotic. The question is, &lt;i&gt;how&lt;/i&gt; psychotic? We now have an indication of the answer to that question. A new national poll provides an astonishing number about paranoia among the GOP base: Republicans do not think President Obama actually won the 2008 election -- instead, ACORN stole it! Overall 62% of Americans think Obama legitimately won the election to only 26% who think ACORN stole it for him, as few Democrats or independents buy into that line of thinking. Perhaps the Righties' dementia should have a name. How about The 26% Percent Delusion?
&lt;p&gt;This number [from Public Policy Polling] goes a long way towards explaining the anger of the Tea Party crowd. They not only think Obama's agenda is against America, but they don't think he was actually the choice of the American people at all! Interestingly, NY-23 Conservative candidate Doug Hoffman is now accusing ACORN of stealing his race, and Fox News personalities have often speculated about ACORN stealing the 2008 Minnesota Senate race for Al Franken.
&lt;p&gt;The poll asked this question: &quot;Do you think that Barack Obama legitimately won the Presidential election last year, or do you think that ACORN stole it for him?&quot; The overall top-line is legitimately won 62%, ACORN stole it 26%.
&lt;p&gt;Among Republicans, however, only 27% say Obama actually won the race, with 52% -- an outright majority -- saying that ACORN stole it, and 21% are undecided. Among McCain voters, the breakdown is 31%-49%-20%. By comparison, independents weigh in at 72%-18%-10%, and Democrats are 86%-9%-4%.
&lt;p&gt;Now, the obvious comparison would be that many Democrats felt that George W. Bush didn't legitimately win the 2000 election. But there are some clear differences.
&lt;p&gt;First of all, Al Gore empirically won the national popular vote in 2000, and lost in a disputed recount process in Florida. By comparison, John McCain lost the national popular vote by a 53%-46% margin.
&lt;p&gt;In order to believe that Obama wasn't the true winner of the 2008 election, one would have to think that ACORN (and perhaps other groups) stuffed ballots to the tune of over 9.5 million votes, Obama's national margin.
&lt;p&gt;PPP communications director Tom Jensen says: &quot;Belief in the ACORN conspiracy theory is even higher among GOP partisans than the birther one, which only 42% of Republicans expressed agreement with on our national survey in September.&quot;</wordzilla:extended>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:17:03 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Fox News Runs More Bogus Crowd Footage</title>
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      <description>A week after admitting to running old crowd footage that exaggerated the size of a health reform bill protest, Fox News ran old footage in a report on crowds greeting Sarah Palin on her book tour. The network again claimed a &quot;production error,&quot; but critics are asking whether the news organization is intentionally manipulating its audience.</description>
      <wordzilla:extended>Wednesday's incident occurred when Fox News host Gregg Jarrett mentioned that a Sarah Palin appearance and book signing in Grand Rapids, Michigan had a massive turnout. As footage rolled of a smiling and waving Palin amidst a throng of fans, Jarrett noted that the former Republican vice-presidential candidate is &quot;continuing to draw huge crowds while she's promoting her brand-new book,&quot; adding that the images being shown were &quot;some of the pictures just coming in to us.... The lines earlier had formed this morning.&quot;
&lt;p&gt;However, the video used in the segment was from a 2008 McCain/Palin campaign rally.</wordzilla:extended>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:09:56 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Oklahoma Plans 'Christian' Prison</title>
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      <description>A proposal to establish a &quot;Christian prison&quot; in Wakita, Oklahoma has come under fire. According to media accounts, the prison would hire only Christian staff and its inmates would be required to participate in a Christ-centered curriculum. The criticism is based on the U.S. Constitution's guarantee of church-state separation.</description>
      <wordzilla:extended>The Americans United for Separation of Church and State today warned Oklahoma corrections officials that a proposed &quot;Christian&quot; prison cannot be supported with public funds.
&lt;p&gt;&quot;If the Department provides funding to Corrections Concepts' prison,&quot; Americans United attorneys insisted, &quot;indoctrination will be the inevitable result, just as it was in Prison Fellowship Ministries. And, just as inevitably, the funding of such indoctrination will violate the Constitution.&quot;</wordzilla:extended>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:32:29 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>GOP Group Got $200,000 from Accused Fraudster</title>
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      <description>The Republican Governors Association got a $200,000 donation last year from Fort Lauderdale attorney Scott Rothstein, who is being accused of a fraud worth as much as $1 billion. The RGA did not respond to requests for comment about the contribution, and it's not known whether the money has, or will be, returned.</description>
      <wordzilla:extended>Rothstein was until his fall a top donor and fundraiser for Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, who is now locked in a hotly contested U.S. Senate primary with conservative Marco Rubio.
&lt;p&gt;The week before Rothstein's donation, RGA's annual conference was held in Crist's home state, in Miami (headlined, you may recall, by Sarah Palin). It's possible the Nov. 17, 2008 donation helped burnish Crist's reputation within RGA. Along with Rothstein's, a flurry of other Florida donations were entered for Nov. 17 in the group's post-election IRS filing (read it here). 
&lt;p&gt;Politicians around Florida of both parties, but particularly Republicans, were the beneficiaries of Rothstein's extraordinary largesse in the past five years. He, his family, and law firm distributed nearly $2 million to political causes since 2006, including $525,000 to the Florida GOP. 
&lt;p&gt;Since the accusations of fraud emerged two weeks ago, politicians have scrambled to unload Rothstein donations, sending the money to charities or pledging to give it to a victim compensation fund. 
&lt;p&gt;Rothstein is accused of setting up a side business to sell bogus legal settlements out of his law firm. While his 87-foot yacht and luxury car collection have been seized by authorities, he has not been criminally charged.</wordzilla:extended>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:32:42 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Remnants of 50,000-Man Army Lost for 2,500 Years Found?</title>
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      <description>In 525 B.C., the Persian Emperor Cambyses dispatched 50,000 of his soldiers to lay waste to an oasis temple in the Sahara because its oracle had spoken ill of his plans for world domination. The punitive expedition disappeared, swallowed up by the Sahara, and its fate became one of antiquity's most dramatic episodes of imperial overreach.  But recent excavations in western Egypt by a team of Italian archaeologists may have unearthed traces of this long-lost army, entombed in the desert for some 2,500 years.</description>
      <wordzilla:extended>The team, led by a veteran pair of twin brothers, Alfredo and Angelo Castiglioni, put forward what they claim is the first physical evidence of the army's remains....earthenware pots, fragments of weaponry dating to the 6th century B.C. and hundreds of human bones....
&lt;p&gt;The Castiglionis reckoned that Cambyses' army must have taken a different route from Thebes into the desert than the one explored by earlier generations of archaeologists....but were stopped short by the unforgiving Saharan &lt;i&gt;khamsin&lt;/i&gt; wind, which triggered sandstorms that scattered and eventually destroyed the attacking troops. The Castiglionis' team also heard bedouin tales of an entire valley of bleached human skulls and bones and they did indeed come across a grave of skeletons not far from Siwa. Among the bones was a bit used by Persian cavalrymen to tether their steeds....The Italian team now believe the rest of the army lies not far from the bulk of their discoveries, some 100 km south of Siwa....
&lt;p&gt;However the project goes forward, the findings bring to life a cautionary tale that has not always been remembered by subsequent generations. Like Napoleon's march into Russia, Cambyses' doomed campaign serves as perhaps the ultimate act of hubris, of a power-hungry monarch who refuses to accept the limits to his ambitions. While these 50,000 Persian warriors disappeared in the desert, Cambyses didn't fare much better. At the time, he was marching on a kingdom in Ethiopia, but provisions ran out beneath a scorching sun and his troops were forced to pick lots having divided into groups of 10. According to Herodotus, the unfortunate 1 of each 10 was killed and eaten by the other ravenous troops. Cambyses eventually withdrew, chastened by Egypt and its desert.</wordzilla:extended>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:06:41 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Palin Angered by Newsweek Cover</title>
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      <description>This week's issue of &lt;i&gt;Newsweek&lt;/i&gt; features a cover of Sarah Palin posed in running attire alongside a U.S. fag that she blasts as  &quot;out-of-context&quot; and &quot;sexist&quot; on her Facebook page.</description>
      <wordzilla:extended>Originally published in the August 2009 issue of &lt;i&gt;Runners World&lt;/i&gt;, the photo features the former Alaska governor in short runner's shorts.
&lt;p&gt;&quot;The choice of photo for the cover of this week's &lt;i&gt;Newsweek&lt;/i&gt; is unfortunate. When it comes to Sarah Palin, this 'news' magazine has relished focusing on the irrelevant rather than the relevant,&quot; Palin wrote. &quot;The &lt;i&gt;Runner's World&lt;/i&gt; magazine one-page profile for which this photo was taken was all about health and fitness -- a subject to which I am devoted and which is critically important to this nation. The out-of-context &lt;i&gt;Newsweek&lt;/i&gt; approach is sexist and oh-so-expected by now. If anyone can learn anything from it: it shows why you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, gender, or color of skin. The media will do anything to draw attention -- even if out of context.&quot;</wordzilla:extended>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:36:36 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>'Equalizer' Edward Woodward Dies</title>
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      <description>Veteran actor Edward Woodward has died in England. He was 79. Woodward starred in the t.v. series &lt;i&gt;The Equalizer&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Callan&lt;/i&gt;, as well as the films &lt;i&gt;The Wicker Man&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Breaker Morant&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:38:10 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>In Cold Blood, 50 Years on</title>
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      <description>Fifty years ago, Holcomb, Kansas was devastated by the slaughter of a local family. And then Truman Capote arrived in town.</description>
      <wordzilla:extended>From a lengthy, interesting account by Ed Pikington in &lt;i&gt;The Guardian&lt;/i&gt;:
&lt;p&gt;River Valley farm stands at the end of an earth road leading out of Holcomb, a small town on the western edge of Kansas. You can see its pretty white gabled roof floating above a sea of corn stubble ...
&lt;p&gt;There's something else not quite right about the setting. There is a large &quot;stop&quot; sign at the entrance to the road, backed up by a metal barrier and a hand-written poster in red paint proclaiming: &quot;No Trespassing. Private Drive.&quot; The warnings seem belligerent for such a peaceful spot.
&lt;p&gt;The explanation for these warnings lies about half a mile away in Holcomb's local park. A memorial plaque was unveiled there two months ago in honour of the former occupants of River Valley farm: the Clutter family, who lived in that house at the end of the elm drive until one tragic night half a century ago. The plaque carries a lengthy eulogy to the family ... Towards the end of the inscription it says that Herb, his wife Bonnie, and two of his four children Nancy and Kenyon, &quot;were killed November 15 1959 by intruders who entered their home with the intent of robbery.&quot;
&lt;p&gt;That is a very minimalist way of describing a multiple murder that devastated the town of Holcomb, inspired one of the great books of American 20th-century literature and spawned a stack of Hollywood films on that fateful night exactly 50 years ago this Sunday.
&lt;p&gt;&quot;Four shotgun blasts that, all told, ended six human lives.&quot; That was how Truman Capote summed up the murders with somewhat greater drama, referring to the four Clutter victims and their two attackers who died later on the gallows. After reading a short newspaper account of the killings, he decided to make the 1,700 km journey from his home in New York to Holcomb to chronicle the impact of terrible violence on a small community. The result, six years later, was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.drudge.com/out/az/MDY3OTc0NTU4MA==&quot;&gt;In Cold Blood&lt;/a&gt;. It propelled him to household fame and fortune, and in the process ensured that Holcomb was put on the map, and changed forever, in ways that many of the townspeople did not -- and still do not -- appreciate.</wordzilla:extended>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:32:43 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Rich:  Missking Link From Killeen to Kabul</title>
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      <description>&quot;The dead at Fort Hood had not even been laid to rest when their massacre became yet another political battle cry for the self-proclaimed patriots of the American right,&quot; writes Frank Rich.  &quot;[And if] something has been learned from the massacre at Fort Hood, it's that our hawks are utterly confused about who it is we're fighting in Afghanistan.</description>
      <wordzilla:extended>&lt;b&gt;The dead at Fort Hood had not even been laid to rest when their massacre became yet another political battle cry for the self-proclaimed patriots of the American right.&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Their verdict was unambiguous: Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, an American-born psychiatrist of Palestinian parentage who sent e-mail to a radical imam, was a terrorist. And he did not act alone. His co-conspirators included our military brass, the Defense Department, the F.B.I., the Walter Reed Army Medical Center, the Joint Terrorism Task Force and, of course, the liberal media and the Obama administration. All these institutions had failed to heed the warning signs raised by Hasan's behavior and activities because they are blinded by political correctness toward Muslims, too eager to portray criminals as sympathetic victims of social injustice, and too cowardly to call out evil when it strikes 42 innocents in cold blood.
&lt;p&gt;The invective aimed at these heinous P.C. pantywaists nearly matched that aimed at Hasan....
&lt;p&gt;Yet the mass murder at Fort Hood didn't happen in isolation. It unfolded against the backdrop of Obama's final lap of decision-making about Afghanistan. For all the right's jeremiads, its own brand of political correctness kept it from connecting two crucial dots: how our failing war against terrorists in Afghanistan might relate to our failure to stop a supposed terrorist attack at home. Most of those who decried the Army's blindness to Hasan's threat are strong proponents of sending more troops into our longest war. &lt;b&gt;That they didn't mention Afghanistan while attacking the entire American intelligence and defense apparatus in charge of that war may be the most telling revelation of this whole debate.
&lt;p&gt;The reason they didn't is obvious enough. Their screeds about the Hasan case are completely at odds with both the Afghanistan policy they endorse and the leadership that must execute that policy&lt;/b&gt;, including Gen. Stanley McChrystal. &lt;b&gt;These hawks, all demanding that Obama act on McChrystal's proposals immediately, do not seem to have read his strategy assessment for Afghanistan&lt;/b&gt; or the many press interviews he gave as it leaked out. If they had, they'd discover that the whole thrust of his counterinsurgency pitch is to befriend and win the support of the Afghan population  i.e., Muslims. The &quot;key to success,&quot; the general wrote in his brief to the president, will be &quot;strong personal relationships forged between security forces and local populations....&quot;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;[To]say that McChrystal's optimistic  dare one say politically correct?  view of Muslim pliability doesn't square with that of America's hawks is the understatement of the decade.&lt;/b&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;As their Fort Hood rhetoric made clear, McChrystal's most vehement partisans don't trust American Muslims, let alone those of the Taliban, no matter how earnestly the general may argue that they can be won over by our troops' friendliness (or bribes)....
&lt;p&gt;About the only prominent voice among the liberal-bashing, Obama-loathing right who has noted this gaping contradiction is Mark Steyn of National Review. &quot;Members of the best trained, best equipped fighting force on the planet&quot; were &quot;gunned down by a guy who said a few goofy things no one took seriously,&quot; he wrote. &quot;And that's the problem: America has the best troops and fiercest firepower, but no strategy for throttling the ideology that drives the enemy  in Afghanistan and in Texas.&quot; You have to applaud Steyn's rare intellectual consistency within his camp. One imagines that he does not buy the notion that our Army, however brilliant, has a shot at building &quot;strong personal relationships&quot; with a population that often regards us as occupiers and infidels.
&lt;p&gt;In a week of horrific news, &lt;b&gt;it was good to hear at the end of it that Obama is dissatisfied with the four Afghanistan options he has been weighing so far. The more time he deliberates, the more he is learning that he's on a fool's errand with no exit.&lt;/b&gt;...
&lt;p&gt;Matthew Hoh, a former Marine and, until recently, a State Department official in Afghanistan, could be found on MSNBC on Thursday once again asking the question no war advocate can answer, &quot;Do you want Americans fighting and dying for the Karzai regime?&quot; Hoh quit his post on principle in September despite the urging of colleagues, including our ambassador there, Karl W. Eikenberry, that he stay and fight over war policy from the inside. But Hoh had lost confidence in our strategy and would not retract his resignation. Now he has been implicitly seconded by Eikenberry himself. Last week we learned that the ambassador, a retired general who had been the top American military commander in Afghanistan as recently as 2007, had sent two cables to Obama urging caution about sending more troops. 
&lt;p&gt;We don't know everything in those cables. What we do know is that &lt;b&gt;American intelligence continues to say that fewer than 100 Qaeda operatives can still be found in Afghanistan. We also know that the Taliban, which are currently estimated to number in the tens of thousands, can't be eliminated.&lt;/b&gt; As McChrystal put it to Filkins, there is no &quot;finite number&quot; of Taliban, so there's no way to vanquish them. Hence his counterinsurgency alternative, which could take decades, costing untold billions and countless lives. 
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Perhaps those on the right are correct about Hasan, and he is just one cog in an apocalyptic jihadist plot that has infiltrated our armed forces. If so, then they have an obligation to explain how pouring more troops into Afghanistan would have stopped Hasan from plotting in Killeen. Don't hold your breath. &lt;i&gt;If we have learned anything concrete so far from the massacre at Fort Hood, it's that our hawks, for all their certitude, are as utterly confused as the rest of us about who it is we're fighting in Afghanistan and to what end.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</wordzilla:extended>
      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:40:56 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Disgraced Fundie Ted Haggard's Comeback Starts With a Lie</title>
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      <description>Before resigning in disgrace after a three-year relationship with a male prostitute, Ted Haggard was one of the Christian Right's most powerful figures  president of the National Association of Evangelicals and a close confidante of the Bush White House. Haggard, now purportedly &quot;completely heterosexual,&quot; hosted a prayer meeting at his Colorado home last night in an attempt to mount a comeback, attracting 110 people. Saying &quot;America loves a scandal, but they love a comeback even more,&quot; Haggard argued he can redeem himself in part because he was never a &quot;hateful, anti-gay guy.&quot;</description>
      <wordzilla:extended>&quot;I was always well aware of my own personal struggles, but my desire was to be more Godly,&quot; said Haggard. &quot;I was never a religious right, hateful, anti-gay guy  secretly running off, except right at the end. I'd say right at the end, before the crisis. That did develop a little bit stronger.&quot; [...]
&lt;p&gt;&quot;It was good for me to go through the Christian hatred of people believing that I was a gay man  and hating me so strongly because of it. And so because of it, my compassion for the homosexual community has gone up incredibly,&quot; said Haggard.
&lt;p&gt;Haggard has experienced what it's like to be on the receiving end of &quot;Christian hatred,&quot; and it's reassuring to know that he now has more &quot;compassion&quot; for gay men and women. But despite his claims, he was responsible for dishing out this hatred for many years.
&lt;p&gt;Haggard catered to the Christian Right's demonization of gays, calling homosexuality a &quot;sin&quot; and arguing, &quot;We don't have to debate about what we should think about homosexual activity, it's written in the Bible.&quot; Haggard also said that Western civilization could be devastated by same-sex marriage:
&lt;p&gt;&quot;[W]e need the Federal Marriage Amendment is for the sake of children.  It would be devastating for the children of our nation and for the future of Western civilization for us to say that homosexual unions or lesbian unions or any alteration of that has the moral equivalence of a heterosexual, monogamous marriage.&quot;
&lt;p&gt;Will Haggard finally practice what he preaches by pushing for equal rights for gay men and women?</wordzilla:extended>
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      <title>9/11 Trial Poses Unparalleled Legal Obstacles for Both Sides</title>
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      <description>How do you defend one of the most notorious terrorist figures in history?  One step, legal analysts say, may be to ask for a change of venue.&lt;p&gt;Khalid Shaikh Mohammed's lawyers, whoever they are, will no doubt question whether he can get a fair trial from a jury sitting, as Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. noted, in a Manhattan courthouse &quot;just blocks away from where the Twin Towers once stood.&quot;&lt;p&gt;Then will come the inevitable challenges to interrogation methods used on Mr. Mohammed during more than six years in detention.</description>
      <wordzilla:extended>The government has acknowledged waterboarding him 183 times to extract information about the Sept. 11 attacks, which he eventually admitted planning. 
&lt;p&gt;Finally, if Mr. Mohammed is convicted, defense lawyers will most likely plead for jurors in New York, historically more cautious about capital punishment than much of the rest of country, to spare the sentence of execution and send him to prison for the rest of his life instead. 
&lt;p&gt;The Obama administration's decision to try Mr. Mohammed and four other terrorism suspects in a civilian court provoked sharp debate among politicians and lawyers about whether American courtrooms are the proper place for so-called enemy combatants, whose suspected crimes were hatched overseas and who viewed themselves as participants in a war against the United States. Both sides agreed that defense lawyers and prosecutors would face unique problems in what is likely to be a hugely complex and emotion-laden case.
&lt;p&gt;Whatever the case, if it actually makes its way before a jury, it promises to be a trial like no other in memory, an extraordinary clash involving the morality of torture, due process rights of foreign terrorist operatives, and the ability of civilian courts to handle national security cases.
&lt;p&gt;Mr. Mohammed and his four co-defendants in military custody have admitted their active involvement in plotting the Sept. 11 attacks and have boasted of their success in killing 3,000 people. 
&lt;p&gt;Once the Justice Department brings formal terrorism charges against him, Mr. Mohammed could seek to enter a guilty plea, just as he has tried to do in military custody. 
&lt;p&gt;But legal analysts were not convinced that he would go that route and said that he might instead seek to martyr himself in the eyes of Muslim extremists through a grand and lengthy trial. 
&lt;p&gt;&quot;There's reason to believe he will try to take advantage of a public platform  more public than Guantnamo afforded him  to publicize his jihadist views,&quot; said David H. Laufman, a Washington lawyer and former federal terrorism prosecutor. 
&lt;p&gt;In fact, one question will be how a judge will prevent a trial from turning into a forum on the American war on terrorism, including the Bush administration's interrogation policies. Terrorism defendants in lesser-known trials have given rambling speeches condemning the government.
&lt;p&gt;The government may also want to avoid having its own interrogation tactics put on trial. To lessen the impact of the coercive measures used against the men, the F.B.I. has used &quot;clean teams&quot; of investigators to collect information independently and do reviews that it says have not been tainted by rough interrogation techniques. Still, any defense lawyer will try to present evidence, including photographs and the testimony of interrogators, to show Mr. Mohammed and his co-defendants were mistreated.
&lt;p&gt;Prosecutors will counter that Mr. Mohammed's statements in the last few years should be admissible at trial because they were voluntary and came long after the government stopped waterboarding him in 2003. 
&lt;p&gt;But Steven Wax, a federal public defender in Oregon who has represented seven Guantnamo defendants, said that &quot;if I'm the defense attorney, I would say this was the product of torture' &quot; and should be thrown out of court.
&lt;p&gt;If the Justice Department does try to introduce evidence that the defense lawyers argue was coerced by torture, &quot;I think that we're going to shine a light on something that a lot of people don't want to look at,&quot; said Denny LeBoeuf, an American Civil Liberties Union lawyer who led the group's efforts in Guantnamo capital cases.
&lt;p&gt;Mr. Holder did not comment directly Friday on the torture accusations but said he was &quot;quite confident&quot; that the Justice Department could produce enough evidence, including some not yet revealed publicly, to get convictions. Indeed, legal analysts said the Justice Department appeared to have a strong case based on Mr. Mohammed's recent statements at Guantnamo as well as e-mail and Internet communications involving the accused plotters. 
&lt;p&gt;Mr. Holder said that if the men were convicted, &quot;ultimately they must face the ultimate justice&quot;meaning the death penalty. 
&lt;p&gt;But one challenge in seeking the &quot;ultimate justice&quot; is New York's jury pool, which is generally perceived by prosecutors and defense lawyers to be more liberal than other places.
&lt;p&gt;For example, a Manhattan federal jury twice deadlocked in 2001, resulting in life sentences for two Qaeda operatives who confessed to helping bomb the American Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998, attacks that killed more than 200 people. 
&lt;p&gt;It was in part because of the concern about New York juries that the Justice Department brought its prosecution of Zacarias Moussaoui in Alexandria, Va., where jurors were believed to be more likely to vote for the death penalty, according to law enforcement officials. But Mr. Moussaoui also received a life sentence.
&lt;p&gt;Indeed, the last executions in federal cases in Manhattan occurred in the 1950s, most notably the case of the Rosenbergs.
&lt;p&gt;If the Sept. 11 defendants do face death penalty proceedings, their lawyers will almost certainly cite as a mitigating argument against capital punishment their clients' treatment in detention, including the claims of coercive interrogation and in the case of Mr. Mohammed, the 183 instances of waterboarding. 
&lt;p&gt;&quot;I think that's certainly on everybody's radar screen,&quot; said David A. Ruhnke, a civilian lawyer who represented one of the five Sept. 11 detainees, Ramzi bin al-Shibh, before the military commissions, and a separate capital defendant in the embassy bombings trial.
&lt;p&gt;&quot;The fact that defendants have already been subjected to cruel and likely illegal punishment,&quot; Mr. Ruhnke said, &quot;becomes a powerful argument against inflicting the ultimate punishment.&quot;
&lt;p&gt;While the defense may consider a motion to move the trial out of New York because it was the epicenter of the attacks, some legal analysts said that might be difficult to do. Such requests have been approved  in the Oklahoma City bombing, Timothy McVeigh's trial was moved to Denver  but they are rare and prosecutors are likely to argue that the entire country was gravely affected by the Sept. 11 attacks.</wordzilla:extended>
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      <title>Florida Man Dials 911 for Phone Sex</title>
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      <description>A Tampa, Fl., man was arrested yesterday after allegedly placing a series of obscene 911 calls during which he asked a female operator about her breasts and whether she would have sex with him. Joshua Basso, 29, told police that his cell phone was out of minutes and he &quot;called 911 because it was free.&quot;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:32:28 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Sullivan:  Obama Has Strength Not Seen Since Reagan</title>
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      <description>&quot;The president waits, prods, allows the parties to reveal their hands, and keeps his final detailed position to himself,&quot; writes conservative Andrew Sullivan of Obama's decision making process.  'By allowing the debate to continue in public, he also tries to get the public more, rather than less, involved....But he won't be bounced and his concern seems to be genuinely to do the right and the most sustainable thing. Which is a kind of strength we haven't seen in a president since Reagan.&quot;</description>
      <wordzilla:extended>The news that Obama has refused to sign off on any of the four major options presented to him in Afghanistan reminds me of why he was elected president. This critical decision - arguably the most critical of his young presidency - is one that will not be rushed the way such decisions often are. His insistence that the civilian branch truly control policy there and that empire not be passively accepted as a fait accompli are real signs of strength in the struggle to recalibrate American foreign policy. Can you imagine Bush ever holding out like this on the military? Or for these reasons:
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Administration officials said Wednesday that Obama wants to make it clear that the U.S. commitment in Afghanistan is not open-ended.&lt;/i&gt; 
. . .
&lt;p&gt;What we are seeing here, I suspect, is what we see everywhere with Obama: a relentless empiricism in pursuit of a particular objective and a willingness to let the process take its time. The very process itself can reveal - not just to Obama, but to everyone - what exactly the precise options are. &lt;b&gt;Instead of engaging in adolescent tests of whether a president is &quot;tough&quot; or &quot;weak&quot;, we actually have an adult prepared to allow the various choices in front of us be fully explored. He is, moreover, not taking the decision process outside the public arena. He is allowing it to unfold within the public arena.&lt;/b&gt; 
. . .
So the troop question is rather like the public option question. 
&lt;p&gt;Obama's position - almost a year into his presidency - is yet to be revealed. The president waits, prods, allows the parties to reveal their hands, and keeps his final detailed position to himself. By allowing the debate to continue in public, he also tries to get the public more, rather than less, involved. So we too get to show our hand as the debate continues. And the polls show Americans pretty evenly - and understandably - divided  on the excruciating and ultimately prudential question of what to do next.
&lt;p&gt;What strikes me about this is the enormous self-confidence this reveals. Here is a young president, prepared to allow himself to be portrayed as &quot;weak&quot; or &quot;dithering&quot; in the slow and meticulous arrival at public policy. He is trusting the reality to help expose what we need to do. He is allowing the debate - however messy and confusing and emotional - to take its time and reveal the real choices in front of us. This is politically risky, of course. Those who treat politics as a contact-sport, whose insistence is on the &quot;game&quot; of who wins which news cycle, or who can spin each moment in a political storm as a harbinger of whatever, will pounce and shriek and try to bounce the president into a decision. And those who believe that what matters in war is charging ahead regardless at all times will also grandstand against the president's insistence on prudence. 
&lt;p&gt;But he won't be bounced and his concern seems to be genuinely to do the right and the most sustainable thing. Which is a kind of strength we haven't seen in a president since Reagan.
&lt;p&gt;</wordzilla:extended>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:59:21 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Key 9/11 Suspect to Be Tried in New York</title>
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      <description>Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the self-described mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, and four other men accused in the plot will be prosecuted in federal court in New York City, a federal law enforcement official said early on Friday.</description>
      <wordzilla:extended>The decisions to give civilian prosecutors detainees accused of the 2001 terrorist attacks and keep the case of the Cole attack within the military system are expected to be announced at the Department of Justice later on Friday by Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because that news conference has not yet taken place.
&lt;p&gt;The decision about how to try several of the most high-profile detainees at Guantnamo marks a milestone in the administration's efforts to close the facility, a policy that President Obama announced shortly after taking office but which has proven more difficult than his team anticipated.
&lt;p&gt;Mr. Obama, asked about the decision during a news conference on his week-long trip to Asia, declined to comment directly, but said that Mr. Mohammed would face justice.
&lt;p&gt;&quot;I'm absolutely convinced that Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will be subject to the most exacting demands of justice,&quot; Mr. Obama said. &quot;The American people insist on it and my administration insists on it.&quot;
&lt;p&gt;No detainee is being moved right away. Under a law Congress enacted earlier this year, lawmakers must be given 45 days advance notice before the executive branch moves a Guantnamo detainee onto United States soil.
&lt;p&gt;The decisions about how to prosecute Mr. Mohammed and Mr. Nashiri have been particularly difficult because their defense lawyers are expected to argue that they were illegally tortured by the Central Intelligence Agency during their confinement, tainting any evidence gathered from their interrogations.
&lt;p&gt;Documents have shown that the CIA used waterboarding  a controlled drowning technique  against Mr. Mohammed 183 times in March 2003. Mr. Nashiri is one of two other detainees known to have been waterboarded before the Bush administration shut down the program, which high-level officials had approved after the Justice Department wrote legal memorandums arguing that the president, as commander-in-chief, could authorize interrogators to bypass anti-torture laws. 
&lt;p&gt;In other cases in which the administration has discussed transferring detainees, local communities have risen up through political leaders to say they did not want the prisoners because their towns could become a target for terrorism. 
&lt;p&gt;New York City has been different. In March, for example, when the administration prepared to bring Ahmed Kahlfan Ghailani, a suspect in the 1998 bombings of United States embassies in Africa which killed 224 people, to face trial there, Senator Charles Schumer, Democrat of New York, reacted with equanimity, saying that the city was well-accustomed to handling high-profile terror suspects.
&lt;p&gt;&quot;Bottom line is we have had terrorists housed in New York before,&quot; Mr. Schumer said at a March news conference at the Capitol with other Democratic leaders. &quot;They've been housed safely.&quot;
&lt;p&gt;Mr. Schumer at the time pointed to the &quot;blind sheikh&quot; Omar Abdel Rahman, convicted in connection with the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, as an example. &quot;The main concern is bringing these terrorists to justice and making sure the public is safe,&quot; Mr. Schumer said. &quot;I have faith that the administration will do both.&quot;
&lt;p&gt;Still, Mr. Ghailani is not facing a potential death sentence, and is not nearly as high profile as Mr. Mohammed. A Sept. 11 plot prosecution in New York City could test such attitudes.
&lt;p&gt;Mr. Mohammed and the four other suspects accused of helping organize the Sept. 11 plot  Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali, Waleed bin Attash, Ramzi Binalshibh, and Mustafa Ahmad al-Hawsawi  had been facing potential death sentences if convicted of the charges the Bush administration had brought against them in military commissions before the Obama administration froze those proceedings. It was not clear what charges they would now face in civilian court.
&lt;p&gt;It was not immediately clear where the military commission trials would take place. The Bush administration spent tens of millions of dollars on a commissions courtroom at Guantnamo, but it has sat empty since the Obama administration froze legal proceedings there to undertake a review of how to handle the detainees. Officials have been eyeing military brigs elsewhere, including some inside the United States.</wordzilla:extended>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:35:10 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Egan: The Social Contract Has Been Broken</title>
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      <description>&quot;It takes quite a bit for Americans to say that the social contract is broken, or look upon concentrated wealth as anything except a virtue,&quot; writes Timothy Egan. &quot;But we may have reached that breach. Our politics are not simply left and right, conservative and liberal. Never have been. Every once in a while, the great middle of independents are stirred to one side. My guess is, if the drift caused by recent actions continues, the United States will be consumed in the coming year by the politics of betrayal, and the winner will be ahead of the rage.&quot;</description>
      <wordzilla:extended>Egan writes, &quot;The next governing majority will be guided by independents, and include liberals, conservatives and people whose great-grandparents left the Republican Party a century ago. It will also include a whole lot of Budweiser drinkers, wondering how the world changed so quickly, without them.&quot;</wordzilla:extended>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:33:39 -0500</pubDate>
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