As with other campaigns looking for dollars in unpromising places, the Clinton operation also has accepted what it later conceded were improper donations. At least one reported donor denies making a contribution. Another admitted to lacking the legal-resident status required for giving campaign money.

I think its past time for the Democratic candidates to stop treating Hillary as the presumptive nominee and start questioning her about the many controversies surrounding her campaign's fundraising. Already the LA Times has publicized two different corrupt links to Chinese nationals and the Chinese community.

One rightwing blowhard suggested that Obama challenge Hillary not on their policy differences, but instead upon the continuing appearance of ethical issues and scandals tied to the Clintons. I cannot say whether any Democrat will tack in this particular direction, but does anyone doubt the Republicans will be making these issues a prima facia case for rejecting Hillary if she succeeds in winning the nomination?

Unfortunately yet again, we seem to see a Clinton Election Machine working the calculus of 50% + 1, regardless of the potential damage such an equation likely will cause to other Democratic candidates across the board and to the Party's tenuous hold on Congressional majorities.

Tony,

I think the Democratic race is going to tighten up leading into the primaries.

Hillary has a ton of baggage and I do think it'll come up if her poll numbers drop to a point where one of the other hopefuls is within reach.

Plus, she has fat ankles.

Corky will be her shortly to defend her ankles.

Funny, Jeff.

Jeffy doesn't mind the hippo hips.



Interestingly enough, all the things being said about Clinton now were being said about her when she ran for the Senate in NY.

She overcame the negatives with a people to people campaign there, and won in a landslide.

This will be my last post on this thread as I do not wish to add to yet another TR thread based on negative innuendo and worst case insinuations about another Dem.

This will be my last post on this thread as I do not wish to add to yet another TR thread based on negative innuendo and worst case insinuations about another Dem.

Translation: I'm going to continue to stick my head in the sand while clinging to every single poll saying that Hillary is a modern-day Viking goddess, ready willing and able to conquer American politics as I know it.

Bottom line: There wouldn't be negative stories if the Clinton campaign wasn't tied to dubious illegal campaign financing scandals pointing to strong-arm tactics and ghost-donators with neither the will nor financial means of contributing to the Clinton campaign.

Want it to end? Then stop allowing illegal activity in the name of raising campaign cash!

Making an exception to my previous post, Tony stoops to publishing Scaithe Arkansas Project VRWC R. Emmitt Tyrell's Butt-buddy Hillyer's fringe right-wing trash from the American Spectator of all places.

How low can you go?

If I had to get into bed with that kind of trash, I'd rather not sleep.

Funny, I can't seem to find a single error in the words posted above. Was Hillary sited for making false statements by Independent Council Robert Ray in 1995? Of course she was.

Are there "multitudinous examples of skullduggery involving unseemly access for and unseemly and/or illegal campaign contributions from a veritable cornucopia of shadowy Asian businessmen"?

The Times examined the cases of more than 150 donors who provided checks to Clinton after fundraising events geared to the Chinese community. One-third of those donors could not be found using property, telephone or business records. Most have not registered to vote, according to public records.

I guess the facts show this to be true as well and this is on top of felon Norman Hsu and his illegal bundling. So I guess that openly discussing and disecting the things which Hillary has brought upon herself relegates one to membership in the VRWC? Hardly. Its illuminates both her supporter's and staff's seeming indifference to the truth surrounding all the scandals ending right at her feet.

Point to one erroneous fact or misleading statement as it regards these things. Don't bother, you can't. If the truth doesn't fit your script then slam the messenger, which of course is the most vile, condesending, and bankrupt thing anyone can do without ever addressing the substance of the issue. Its not leadership, its arrogance and hubris dressed up to look like a virtue. Doing the wrong thing never is a virtue except for those so accustomed to doing so over and over again, while blaming others every single step of the way for their own lack of both ethics and institutional control.

Anyone else here seeing an unmistakable pattern?

Posted by tonyroma

Sure, dating back to 1996.

"Anyone else here seeing an unmistakable pattern?"

Posted by tonyroma



For a long, long time, I have wondere why so many people were so concerned about things like Bill's flings and his BJ's. Hell, we know now that FDR, Eisenhower, Kennedy and who knows how many others strayed. What DID concern me and received scant attention in the media was the fund-raising. What did he give the Chinese Red Army for campaign donations? We know he authorized the transfer of missile technology aginst advice. There were rumors that the Chinese have quietened their subs with propeller technology they shouldn't have also. I suspect Hillary has a lot of exoerience in fund-raising and the Chinese contacts are NOT something new.

"What did he give the Chinese Red Army for campaign donations?"

What? State-of-the-art semiconductor manufacturing facilities, for one. All the corporate types could see was billions of pagers sold. All the political types see is a source of money. We've been sold out by the lot of 'em.

Wis...

Weren't we told that the Clinton campaign was going to redouble their efforts at keeping things like this from happening after the Hsu exposure?

Why in the world would anyone identify Hillary Clinton as a person willing to bring change to our government when her record continues to show her trapped in the same dubious tactics of the past, particularly in regards to campaign fundraising?

Where is the "responsibility gene" and the "experience and wisdom"? If she truly were emblematic of these traits wouldn't it show up in how her campaign raises funds and deals with its bundlers?

In regards to the sub quieting technology, wasn't that linked to the Japanese company Toshiba back during the Reagan Administration?

I've boycotted all things Toshiba since then because of that.

"What? State-of-the-art semiconductor manufacturing facilities, for one."

Yes...and what else that isn't known?

"In regards to the sub quieting technology, wasn't that linked to the Japanese company Toshiba back during the Reagan Administration?"

I believe Toshiba sold milling equipment to Russia which allowed Russia to further quiet their boats. The Chinese deal took place some years later. I'd have to go back and research it all.

I believe Toshiba sold milling equipment to Russia which allowed Russia to further quiet their boats. The Chinese deal took place some years later. I'd have to go back and research it all.

I believe that is exactly correct, Jest. Thanks for the information.

Oh, and since Tuesday, Obama has raised $1,920,241 and counting, online in his quest of eliminating Hillary's $2.1 million advantage.

This will be my last post on this thread as I do not wish to add to yet another TR thread based on negative innuendo and worst case insinuations about another Dem.



Posted by Corky


Two since.

should we keep counting on that last post on this thread?

This scandal means nothing. I really think Hillary is a lot like Bush. It's yes or no. There's no middle road for people on these two. Either you support or you don't.

when hill orders chinese take out - it is quite apparent to me and these chinese folk that she means it.

you don't supposed they heard of the foster take out?

did i just note that corky is going to clam up on this post?

tick-tock.

Who cares - it's a Clinton: To be expected.

A blog on this before TR.