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Saturday, June 30, 2007

Manufacturers may set a fixed price for their products and forbid retailers from offering discounts, the Supreme Court said Thursday, overturning a nearly century-old rule of antitrust law that prohibited retail price fixing. The decision was the 15th this year to benefit business and corporations by shielding them from lawsuits and legal claims.

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I guess they may as well change their name to United States Supreme Court, INC.

I don't buy the gloom and doom. Manufacturers still have to compete with other manufacturers. Violate anti-trust? Hogwash. It's their property and should be their right to sell to whomever they wish for whatever reason they wish. If only the Federales were consistent in other areas, housing for example.

so much for stare decisis.

The Dred Scott decision was stare decisis at one time too.

There are all kinds of reasons certain manufacturers don't want discounting at the retail level, but this ruling affects only a small number of manufacturers.

Coach handbags, certain brands of high-end clothing and shoes, the most expensive liquers, top jewelry names--these are the mfrs that don't want their products EVER used as "loss leaders". Unless you're doing a lot of your shopping at Saks Fifth Avenue, you won't even notice. The idea that this affects the Wal-Mart or Target shopper is preposterous.

Why Are Americans So Angry?

video.google.com

Really good speech by Ron Paul

"Manufacturers should be free to decide how their products are marketed and sold...."

So, retailers don't own the property once they've purchased it?

The decision, coming on the last day of the court's term, was the 15th this year to benefit business and corporations by shielding them from lawsuits and legal claims.

Republicans suck.

Money will buy you anything in America. Presidents and 5 SCOTUS judges do cost more but you make a very nice profit on the deal.

So, what if a retailer elected, for whatever reason, to burn manufactuer's products rather than sell them?

Another attack on working Americans

Doesn't this translate into better margins for retailers? If the guy down the street can't undercut your price on the same thing, won't you make more money at sale?

All those who voted for Bush. You may think you're better off, but wait til the bill comes due for all his follies.

His appointments to the Supreme Court turned the court on it's head. They're starting to undo 100 years of decisions pro the average American.

With wages adjusted for inflation, America now enjoys the buying power of 1976. We're supposed to be better off when we're going to pay more for everything with this decision - on top of fuel prices raising everything else thanks to the war in Iraq Bush started.

You got a lot of nerve defending Bush if you do. He's been bad for every single person in America who has under $5,000,000.

Well say good bye to the internet. Internet dealers thrive on being able to offer a lower cost than brick and mortar shops. Well now they get to make margins they never dreamed of but at the cost of lost sales, why would you buy online if you can get it localy for the same price?

If the guy down the street can't undercut your price on the same thing, won't you make more money at sale?

Posted by evashogouki at 2007-06-30 08:01 PM | Reply

Silly, juvenile comment. If Circuit City is selling a 37-inch LG TV for $900 and two blocks away you can get a 37-inch Panasonic for $650, what are you going to do?

In today's business world it's retailers who reign supreme, not manufacturers. Go to a grocery store and look at the amount of shelf space devoted to particular soft drinks.

Coke, Pepsi and whoever else BUYS shelf space. They pay Kroger and Safeway for the equivalent of 'real estate frontage.'

Coke, Pepsi and whoever else BUYS shelf space. They pay Kroger and Safeway for the equivalent of 'real estate frontage.'


Posted by vernon at 2007-06-30 10:03 PM | Reply

HEH HEH HEH Vernon said Frontage

Larry

The decision, coming on the last day of the court's term, was the 15th this year to benefit business and corporations by shielding them from lawsuits and legal claims.

* * * *

Well, in this case, it was one business that was protected from another, which wanted to void the sales agreement.

If you want to sell designer handbags, and still have the option to discount, then you need to find a manufacturer who will agree to that. How hard is that? But the fact is, the manufacturer has a right to protect his brand, and sign contracts accordingly. Brighton handbags retail for $200 and up, which still puts them considerably below Coach and Fendi. IMO, it's stupid to spend that much for a damn purse. So go to Target, or WalMart, and look for the smiley yellow guy.

So, the Waltham Watch situation is reinstated after lo these many years. When the just overturned rule was introduced, the plaint was that manufacturers would go under because of the practice of discounting their goods. So discounting was prohibited.

Change is difficult to accommodate. The retailers can refuse to carry the goods of manufacturers who demand to set prices. The retailers are now in the driver's seat.

Nobody will suffer except the plaintiff who had won the judgment that was overturned.

HEH HEH HEH Vernon said Frontage

Larry

Posted by LarryMohr at 2007-06-30 10:10 PM | Reply

Thanks Larry, for showing yet again why Liberals cannot serve as business faculty. And for proving why Liberals can't talk on such simple concepts as Cheez-Wiz and Post-It notes.

You are all rapists and murderers; all children are holes to be protected from you. The reason we have laws is to constrain people like you.

What a miserable life you have.

WOW So Vernon declares I am a Child Molester. That is beyond the pale especially since I WAS Molested as a Child. Yeah I have a Miserable Life You are right. I have to put up with shit from the likes of You Vernon. Amazing if it wasn't so sad.

Larry

Jeez,

So much for the right wing bullshit of "letting the free market decide".

Now if the manufacturer does not want to let the free market decide, they can just fix the price at whatever they want to.

Can't wait until overtime and child labor laws are overturned.

Internet dealers thrive on being able to offer a lower cost than brick and mortar shops


Internet dealers don't have a "right" to be in business. Besides, in many cases, I have found Internet dealers to be more expensive.

Whether or not this decision will have any noticable impact will depend on the brand, the retailer and ultimately the customer. Manufacturers of well recognized brands will be able to intimate small retailers and restrict them from discounting. Similarly, large retailers will be able to say to manufacturers of named brands that they are going to sell at whatever price they need to move the merchandise. However, the ultimate power resides with the consumer who can walk away from the sale.

What is likely to happen is that manufacturers will selectively grant the right to discount their products to certain retailers (perhaps only in their outlet stores) resulting in lower overall sales.

Larry claims victimhood. Thus special rights. How Democratic of him.

So much for the right wing bullshit of "letting the free market decide".

The free market is a god?

Now if the manufacturer does not want to let the free market decide, they can just fix the price at whatever they want to.

What? There is no escape from the market pricing process. They still have to find enough willing buyers to operate at a profit.

"Silly, juvenile comment. If Circuit City is selling a 37-inch LG TV for $900 and two blocks away you can get a 37-inch Panasonic for $650, what are you going to do?"

Uh, Vern, wasn't that what I was asking about? Wouldn't the ruling prohibit this? If the retailer can't do that, then both stores have to charge the same amount. Right?

So where was I wrong?

Well, LG and Panasonic are two different companies.
What this ruling will do is this: if you're looking to buy a Cartier watch, you don't have to shop around--the retailer downtown will sell you one for $1,200, and the same piece will be for sale in NYC for $1,200. The idea that one retailer or the other would slash the price just to get you into the store, and thereby generate the perception that the $1,200 watch is actually worth much less, will be done away with. If, that is, Cartier has such an agreement with their retailers.

RR
You can find my response to yesterday's discussion if you click my name. I'm looking forward to settling which of us has the prescience. On this topic, I agree with you.

I have to put up with shit from the likes of You

Larry, I didn't know you weren't here voluntarily.

Did a court mandate that you blog?

What crime did you commit that made them mete out that punishment?

I have found Internet dealers to be more expensive.

I have found it much easier to shop around on the internet (you don't have to run around from store to store) and therefore easier to find a lower price.

Some things, like shoes or bicycles, which must be tried on or tested, I will only buy in stores.

Folks, it is time to get off your couches. Buy can goods. Get what you want and NEED now and refuse to purchase more shit.

This is war.

Wouldn't it be neat-o if when the Repubs are turned out next year the whole dam supreme court resign with them? And whomever replaces Dubya make the sole litmus test not fetal rights but human rights. herm

If a Dem is not elected president, this country is fucked. Notice how they are trying rankle independent voters' feathers by saying Dems didn't stop the war without reporting Dems did not have to votes to. The repugs are obstructing. The majority is slight and razor thin.

Dems, Progs and Indies have to stick together to get this shit done in 2008. Otherwise it might be end game for all period.

Unfettered greed can never be satiated. Remember that!


WOW So Vernon declares I am a Child Molester. That is beyond the pale especially since I WAS Molested as a Child. Yeah I have a Miserable Life You are right. I have to put up with shit from the likes of You Vernon. Amazing if it wasn't so sad.

Larry

Posted by LarryMohr at 2007-07-01 01:50 AM

Larry, you have a CHOICE. You don't have to put up with shit from anyone. Especially on the DR. You can choose not to be here. This is not an indictment of you.....just letting you know you are empowered with choices....something one that has been abused is wise to take a grasp of. If this is an outlet for your rightful anger that is cool too. But, IT IS YOUR CHOICE TO MAKE. Be cool Larry.

Larry, you have a CHOICE. You don't have to put up with shit from anyone. Especially on the DR. You can choose not to be here. This is not an indictment of you.....just letting you know you are empowered with choices....something one that has been abused is wise to take a grasp of. If this is an outlet for your rightful anger that is cool too. But, IT IS YOUR CHOICE TO MAKE. Be cool Larry.

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I shouldn['t have to put up with it Here Ride On they should be banned. I should not have to remove Myself From here. They should be kicked out for slander. Do You not grasp this??

Larry

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