Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Friday, May 19, 2017

Uproxx: One of the big questions out of the 2016 election was just how much influence Russia had on the election. While fake news has become a rallying cry and a problem Facebook and Google are desperately trying to solve, Time has delved into Russia's propaganda operations, and the article is full of tidbits and embarrassing revelations. The biggest problem, at least from Facebook's perspective, is that Russia has been buying ads to push its propaganda, something we already knew from investigations into Breitbart and Infowars.

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Here's the lowdown from Time: "The intelligence officials have found that Moscow's agents bought ads on Facebook to target specific populations with propaganda. 'They buy the ads, where it says sponsored by -- they do that just as much as anybody else does,' says the senior intelligence official. (A Facebook official says the company has no evidence of that occurring.)"

Some have noted that if the Trump campaign coordinated with these ad efforts, even unknowingly, that might potentially be a crime.

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Yes, Russian spies!

#1 | Posted by Crassus at 2017-05-20 02:08 AM | Reply

That's not spying, you idiot. You really will defend the Trump administration against absolutely anything, won't you? Facts be damned.

#2 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-05-20 07:43 AM | Reply

The only substantive allegation in the article is:

"In one case last year, senior intelligence officials tell TIME, a Russian soldier based in Ukraine successfully infiltrated a U.S. social media group by pretending to be a 42-year-old American housewife and weighing in on political debates with specially tailored messages. In another case, officials say, Russia created a fake Facebook account to spread stories on political issues like refugee resettlement to targeted reporters they believed were susceptible to influence."

How do we measure the impact? Is it really a cause for concern?

On the other hand, the entire liberal establishment claims and takes it for granted that Russia "hacked" the 2016 election. Bill Maher couldn't stop ranting about this last might in a rather entertaining program, but the practice is widespread. The story has permeated the mass media. At the same time, an otherwise paranoid Diane Feinstein, with direct access to CIA intelligence, has clearly stated that there is not one scintilla of evidence to support this claim. The Russian conspiracy theory is a propaganda product of the US Deep State, which was alarmed by Trump's clear intent to improve relations with Russia. It worked to the extent that they got Trump to declare relations with Russia are at a new low.

If any organization has the means and the motive to hack the 2016 election it is the Rethugs. It is now clear they succeeded in eliminating 200,000 voters, in districts they targeted, from voter registration roles, thereby preventing them from voting. Trump won Wisconsin by 22,000 votes. This is a real problem, if not a crime.

#3 | Posted by nutcase at 2017-05-20 07:50 AM | Reply

No it is not spying and what in good heaven does this have to do with trump?

#4 | Posted by Crassus at 2017-05-20 08:46 AM | Reply

Just because you and the entire MSM is trying to attach anything Russian to trump doesn't have validity, it is political garbage.

#5 | Posted by Crassus at 2017-05-20 08:47 AM | Reply

Facts be damned.

Show me facts, cause everything here is all doesn't show anything about spying, or trump involved, just conjecture of If's and could be's.

#6 | Posted by Crassus at 2017-05-20 08:51 AM | Reply

Show me facts, cause everything here is all conjecture of if's and could be's and doesn't show anything about spying, or trump involvement.

#7 | Posted by Crassus at 2017-05-20 08:55 AM | Reply

"everything here is all conjecture"

Riiiiiight.

Those 18 contacts with the Russians they hadn't disclosed yet must not have happened!

#8 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-20 09:11 AM | Reply

I enjoy how some online social media trolls are being spun as "1337 hAx0rz" who hacked the interwebs.

#9 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2017-05-20 09:38 AM | Reply

Contacts with Russians have not been disclosed.....you mean it is illegal to have contacts with Russians? What other countries is it illegal to have contacts with? Didn't know there was such a law.

#10 | Posted by Crassus at 2017-05-20 09:40 AM | Reply

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And from social media sites, where real news is made.....Good heavens, just have to laugh.

#11 | Posted by Crassus at 2017-05-20 09:42 AM | Reply

"Contacts with Russians have not been disclosed.....you mean it is illegal to have contacts with Russians?

If the President is applying sanctions, and you're telling the Russians not to worry about the sanctions, yes, that's illegal.

More to the point, if it's all aboveboard, why did they have to lie about it over a dozen times?

#12 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-20 09:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Didn't know there was such a law."

Then you should probably educate yourself.

#13 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-20 09:49 AM | Reply

OK Mr. education, tell what countries I can not have contact with. Cause I know I can have contact with an individual from any nation on this earth being legal, but you seem to think different.

#14 | Posted by Crassus at 2017-05-20 09:53 AM | Reply

"Cause I know I can have contact with an individual from any nation on this earth being legal, but you seem to think different."

Are you truly so clueless you don't know the difference between a regular citizen and the incoming National Security Advisor?!? I doubt that seriously, so you might as well come out and say it: You believe Michael Flynn telling the Russians not to worry about the sanctions the day Obama sanctioned them to be just fine.

Of course, if it were HRC, you'd be apoplectic.

#15 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-20 09:58 AM | Reply

And this has to do with, cough, Russian spies and face book?

#16 | Posted by Crassus at 2017-05-20 10:15 AM | Reply

And where is Flynn Now?

And how does this tie into trump?

#17 | Posted by Crassus at 2017-05-20 10:17 AM | Reply

"And where is Flynn Now?"

Preparing against legal action for what he did.

"And how does this tie into trump?"

Ladies and Gentlemen...today's Republicans. The Ostrich Party.

#18 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-20 10:22 AM | Reply

"And how does this tie into trump?"

Ladies and Gentlemen...today's Republicans. The Ostrich Party.

Oh, you don't want to answer it because? Oh, you already answered it Preparing against legal action for what he did.

#19 | Posted by Crassus at 2017-05-20 10:26 AM | Reply

"And where is Flynn Now?
And how does this tie into trump?"

According to an interview Flynn did last October, he believed it was the Russians who hacked the DNC and he approved of their actions:

Michael Flynn, a retired Army lieutenant general, said he agreed with assessments from cybersecurity experts that operatives for the Russian government carried out attacks on Mrs. Clinton's campaign and other Democratic Party organizations, even as he decried the "corruption" that he said the hacks exposed.

The former head of the military's Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), Flynn said he was not surprised by a foreign power's interest in the US election and he expressed curiosity about whether there might be additional revelations from the hack. Documents from the breach led to embarrassing revelations about friction within the party and prompted the resignation of DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz on the eve of the Democratic convention in August.

"So, a state-backed attack against our political – I mean, against anything – is like, 'OK, that's not surprising,' " Flynn said. "What they have decided to do and what they've decided to expose, you know, we'll have to wait and see what's about to come out. What's been exposed is the level of corruption. I mean there's an enormous level of corruption that's been exposed in our election system," he added.

Many experts have suggested that Guccifer 2.0 is a cover for Russian operatives who handed the stolen documents to WikiLeaks. Flynn said WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is doing work left undone by the Department of Justice, which investigated Clinton's use of a private email server when she served as Secretary of State but did not bring charges against the Democratic candidate.

"It's sad that the Department of Justice ... isn't doing anything about it," he said of the investigation of Clinton. "Whereas everyone's hoping Julian Assange does what the Department of Justice should be doing."

www.csmonitor.com

He basically said the Russians did it and gave the hacked emails to Assange/WikiLeaks, and that's a good thing because Clinton is guilty of corruption and needs to be locked up.

#20 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-20 10:48 AM | Reply

Let's repeat: Flynn said last October that the Russians hacked the DNC, gave the hacked emails to WikiLeaks, and he approved of all those actions.

#21 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-20 10:49 AM | Reply

No, he said many experts said but yes he agreed it was good because the justice department wasn't doing their job.

Is this untruthful?

#22 | Posted by Crassus at 2017-05-20 10:55 AM | Reply

Trump and military adviser differ on blaming Russia for hacks

At an event in Boston this week, Michael Flynn, a senior Trump adviser, said he is convinced that Russia was behind hacks into the Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee.

Donald Trump may not be ready to blame Moscow for cyberattacks targeting the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee, but his senior military adviser says he's convinced it was Russia.

Michael Flynn, a retired Army lieutenant general, said he agreed with assessments from cybersecurity experts that operatives for the Russian government carried out attacks on Mrs. Clinton's campaign and other Democratic Party organizations, even as he decried the "corruption" that he said the hacks exposed.

"We should not be surprised that a communist state run by a totalitarian dictator wants to expose the weaknesses of capitalism and, frankly, show the level of corruption that exists in our political process," he said.

www.csmonitor.com

#23 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-20 11:08 AM | Reply

Let's repeat: Flynn said last October that the Russians hacked the DNC, gave the hacked emails to WikiLeaks, and he approved of all those actions.

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2017-05-20 11:08 AM | Reply

"I enjoy how some online social media trolls are being spun as "1337 hAx0rz" who hacked the interwebs."

Do they not teach about the War of the Worlds broadcast in grade school anymore?

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-05-20 04:53 PM | Reply

Better put Crassy on suicide watch after his boy gets impeached.

He'll never see impeachment or a resignation coming, its going to totally blindside the rube!

I guess that's what you get though when you think Fox News, Breitbart, and Infowars are legit sources of news and facts!

#26 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2017-05-20 09:58 PM | Reply

Trump has violated the emoluments clause of the constitution. That sets him apart from all Presidents,including Trump, who routinely violate international law by attacking other countries, and always get away with it. Because Presidents have every right to speak and negotiate with foreign powers I dont see how the Russian connection will ever stick.

It is difficult to imagine that Trumps kids can charge $50,000 for access to Trump and get away with it. this is the most blatant corruption ever displayed by any White House.

#27 | Posted by nutcase at 2017-05-21 07:39 AM | Reply

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