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Wednesday, May 17, 2017

Michael T. Flynn told President Trump's transition team weeks before the inauguration that he was under federal investigation for secretly working as a paid lobbyist for Turkey during the campaign, according to two people familiar with the case. Despite this warning, which came about a month after the Justice Department notified Mr. Flynn of the inquiry, Mr. Trump made Mr. Flynn his national security adviser. The job gave Mr. Flynn access to the president and nearly every secret held by American intelligence agencies. Mr. Flynn's disclosure, on Jan. 4, was first made to the transition team's chief lawyer, Donald F. McGahn II, who is now the White House counsel. That conversation, and another one two days later between Mr. Flynn's lawyer and transition lawyers, shows that the Trump team knew about the investigation of Mr. Flynn far earlier than has been previously reported.

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In congressional testimony, the acting F.B.I. director, Andrew G. McCabe, has confirmed the existence of a "highly significant" investigation into possible collusion between Mr. Trump's associates and Russian operatives to sway the presidential election. The pace of the investigations has intensified in recent weeks, with a veteran espionage prosecutor, Brandon Van Grack, now leading a grand jury inquiry in Northern Virginia that is scrutinizing Mr. Flynn's foreign lobbying and has begun issuing subpoenas to businesses that worked with Mr. Flynn and his associates.

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"All in all you're just another brick in the wall" - Pink Floyd

Tic toc....

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-17 10:23 PM | Reply

The Trump administration was completely illiterate about government yet their guy was President. They were committing crimes that they didn't even understand existed because they knew nothing about government.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-17 10:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#2

Elementary socialization and everyday morality could have steered them towards correct behavior.

Cannibals and barbarians.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2017-05-17 10:41 PM | Reply

"Michael T. Flynn told President Trump's transition team weeks before the inauguration that he was under federal investigation"

Wasn't Pence in charge of that transition? Pence, the guy who claims he didn't hear a word of this until much, much later?

Is EVERYONE in the Trump WH an inveterate liar?

#4 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-17 10:47 PM | Reply

yes

#5 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-17 11:00 PM | Reply

#4

This is why the deep state sources are saying that Sen. Hatch is being prepped to become POTUS. Trump, Pence and Ryan are all complicit in various parts of the scandals which the DOJ is honing in on through their grand juries.

Stay tuned, because while I believe the sourcing, I also believe compromises can be made so as not to destroy the people's faith in or government nor cause financial meltdowns due to the unprecedented nature and breadth of their alleged transgressions.

#6 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-17 11:15 PM | Reply

our government....

#7 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-17 11:16 PM | Reply

This is why the deep state sources are saying that Sen. Hatch is being prepped to become POTUS.

That is the wackiest online gossip I've read since fringe elements of society once championed that "Jade Helm" would 'take dur gunz' and put Texans in Walmart internment camps.

#8 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2017-05-17 11:21 PM | Reply

#6 The line of succession says you're wrong Tony.

#9 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-05-17 11:28 PM | Reply

#6 The line of succession says you're wrong Tony.

Sorry Laura, you're wrong, I'm right.


No. Office Current officer
1 Vice President Mike Pence (R)
2 Speaker of the House of Representatives Paul Ryan (R)
3 President pro tempore of the Senate Orrin Hatch (R)

simple.wikipedia.org

#10 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-17 11:40 PM | Reply

Sorry Laura, you're wrong, I'm right.

No. Office Current officer
1 Vice President Mike Pence (R)
2 Speaker of the House of Representatives Paul Ryan (R)
3 President pro tempore of the Senate Orrin Hatch (R)

simple.wikipedia.org

Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-17 11:40 PM | Reply

You won't get all three removed Tony. It would take all 4 years.

#11 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-05-17 11:43 PM | Reply

That is the wackiest online gossip I've read since fringe elements of society once championed that "Jade Helm" would 'take dur gunz' and put Texans in Walmart internment camps.

Yeah, it is on it's face, but that's only because you don't know the underlying story as to how it could happen. There is a lot of things you deemed "gossip" that are now known facts today such as the federal grand jury in Virginia and subpoenas going to close Trump associates. Remember the chorus has been saying all of this is butthurt over Hillary losing and now our government is ensnared in Le Affair Trump with bombshells landing every day, often multiple times per day.

Very little is out of the realm of possible because of the blatant disregard for any truth, honesty or ethics from this entire Administration.

I have no idea what will happen because I barely believe what has already happened.

#12 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-17 11:53 PM | Reply

You won't get all three removed Tony. It would take all 4 years.

Not if the first three are indicted for crimes by a federal grand jury. At that point they each will be forced to resign when the specifics of the charges are released. If it happens you'll understand.

If not, Hatch isn't going to be President.

#13 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-17 11:59 PM | Reply

www.forbes.com

No clear legal answer exists to the question of whether a sitting President can be indicted and prosecuted. The Attorney General's Office of Legal Counsel has considered this issue in depth twice in the past half-century – in 1973, in connection with President Richard Nixon's role in Watergate, and again in 2000, after President Bill Clinton was acquitted of impeachment charges. On both occasions, federal lawyers in the Attorney General's office apparently determined that the indictment or criminal prosecution of a sitting President was impermissible and unconstitutional because it would undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions.

The United States Constitution provides only for impeachment and is silent on the issue of whether federal officials can be criminally prosecuted while holding office. As a result, analysists are forced to comb through fragments of debates held during the constitutional conventions to discern the Framers' intent with regard to this issue. In 1973 and 2000, lawyers in the Attorney General's Office determined because of the singularly unique duties and demands of the position, a President cannot be called upon to answer the demands of another branch of government – in this case the judicial branch – in the same manner as all other individuals. They concluded as a matter of policy that a President cannot both serve as the nation's chief executive and defend criminal charges.

MY WORDS FOLLOW

Wishful thinking Tony. You have only one option IMPEACHMENT and subsequent conviction in the Senate to remove Trump from office. Then President Pence can then nominate a VP and the situation repeats itself.

#14 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-05-18 12:11 AM | Reply

I agree with your argument Laura, though I admittedly don't know too much on the subject. I suspect that I will be learning a lot over the next few weeks to months. What we have with Trump ET AL, is unprecedented. It is something I don't think that the framers could envision. They probably would argue that Impeachment would be powerful enough but the partisanship is so strong that the will of the people is denied, well until 2018. But should the will of the people be the ultimate authority here? IDK

Assume for a second that most of the Trump story is true, that he did collude with Russia to effect the election. What remedy is there? This impact is bigger than even the presidency ala the Supreme Court.

What if there were a conspiracy with Ryan and Pence?

We are living in dangerous times, not from an outside threat but from a threat from our own government.

What remedy is there? Impeach? Impeach who? How? How do we address flagrant and well documented law breaking from way before Trump announced his presidency to today if Congress refuses to do anything? What remedy do we have from the blatant obstruction happening in front of our eyes daily?

#15 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-18 12:21 AM | Reply

"What if there were a conspiracy with Ryan and Pence?"

Well, we already know Pence was in the middle of what he has been denying.

We also now know Paul Ryan is a classic case of party over country, someone who told a bald-faced lie until he discovered there was a tape of the incident, then pivoted to a different lie.

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-18 12:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

On the law you are right and I need to amend my scenario. The Grand Jury will and can prosecute conspirators unless the President stops everything by pardons. If not, the seriousness of the charges brought against Trump's conspirators along with his own complicity laid out as the unindicted co-conspirator will hyper-accelerate impeachment because there will be no opposition. (Think treason)

Again, if this happens, either they resign or Trump is replaced through the invocation of the 25th Amendment by his cabinet. This entire episode will be over in weeks not years, imo.

We'll see who's right when we know.

#17 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-18 12:27 AM | Reply

Again, if this happens, either they resign or Trump is replaced through the invocation of the 25th Amendment by his cabinet.

Our fate is in the hands of Rick Perry, Ben Carson, Jeff Sessions and Betsy DeVos

YAY!

#18 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-18 12:33 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

What remedy is there? Impeach? Impeach who? How? How do we address flagrant and well documented law breaking from way before Trump announced his presidency to today if Congress refuses to do anything? What remedy do we have from the blatant obstruction happening in front of our eyes daily?

#15 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-18 12:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

Impeachment is your ONLY option regarding Trump then President Pence can pardon Trump (Ford to Nixon) Then the process repeats itself. SEE You have to impeach Pence too because he is an elected official(He receives electoral college votes too)Oh and GOOD LUCK getting the senate to convict. It harkens back to Democratic majority aquitting Clinton for his impeachment.

#19 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-05-18 12:34 AM | Reply

I guess it will have to do with how dirty the crimes are and how obvious the evidence is

#20 | Posted by truthhurts at 2017-05-18 12:41 AM | Reply

Since the discussion is wild eyed scenarios like indicting the top three government officials, how 'bout this un'.

All three are indicted. Trump pardons Pence and Ryan then resigns. Then President Pence pardons Trump. Nobody goes to jail. "The Prince" wins.

#21 | Posted by et_al at 2017-05-18 12:42 AM | Reply

#21 With the exception of a handful of wing dings here, I would hope the American public would not stand for that.

#22 | Posted by 726 at 2017-05-18 07:04 AM | Reply

Impeachment is your ONLY option ....

Laura, stop the hysterics. The 25th Amendment can rid us of Trump whenever the Cabinet - and then Congress if Trump fights it - deems him unable to discharge his duties as President.

If he continues to act irrationally and travels off the rails as it regards dereliction of his duties to the Constitution to protect and defend this nation, he will be removed long before an impeachment and trial.

#23 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-18 08:07 AM | Reply

And this story is connected to this story:

One of the Trump administration's first decisions about the fight against the Islamic State was made by Michael Flynn weeks before he was fired – and it conformed to the wishes of Turkey, whose interests, unbeknownst to anyone in Washington, he'd been paid more than $500,000 to represent.

The decision came 10 days before Donald Trump had been sworn in as president, in a conversation with President Barack Obama's national security adviser, Susan Rice, who had explained the Pentagon's plan to retake the Islamic State's de facto capital of Raqqa with Syrian Kurdish forces whom the Pentagon considered the U.S.'s most effective military partners. Obama's national security team had decided to ask for Trump's sign-off, since the plan would all but certainly be executed after Trump had become president.

Flynn didn't hesitate. According to timelines distributed by members of Congress in the weeks since, Flynn told Rice to hold off, a move that would delay the military operation for months.

It was a fact Flynn disclosed himself in a declaration to the Foreign Agent Registration Unit of the Justice Department in early March. According to Flynn's paperwork, he was paid $530,000 for work that "could be construed to have principally benefited the Republic of Turkey." The contract ended last November.

Under the Foreign Agent Registration Act, U.S. citizens who lobby on behalf of foreign governments or political entities must disclose their work to the Justice Department within 10 days.

Ekim Alptekin, the Turkish businessman whose company paid Flynn, disputes that he was "taking directions from anyone in the government" of Turkey. But Flynn's filing shows he set up a meeting with Turkey's foreign minister, Mevlut Cavusoglu, and energy minister, Berat Albayrak, who is President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's son-in-law, at a New York hotel last September.

www.mcclatchydc.com

The single common thread in all of these connections is money, either from Turkish cut-outs with ties to Russia or Russians with direct ties to Putin themselves.

#24 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-18 11:50 AM | Reply

It's being reported that Trump is holding a press briefing/conference today at 3:30. We may be about to witness the figurative end of his presidency in a matter of hours. I can't believe his staff is going to let this happen.

#25 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-18 12:44 PM | Reply

Laura, stop the hysterics. The 25th Amendment can rid us of Trump whenever the Cabinet - and then Congress if Trump fights it - deems him unable to discharge his duties as President.

If he continues to act irrationally and travels off the rails as it regards dereliction of his duties to the Constitution to protect and defend this nation, he will be removed long before an impeachment and trial.

#23 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-18 08:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

How about you get a greaking clue Tony. Do you honestly think his hand picked cabinet will go after their boss??? Seriously Tony THINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#26 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-05-18 04:03 PM | Reply

Freaking too

#27 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2017-05-18 04:03 PM | Reply

Yes. Or they will be complicit in treason against the US. Are you paying attention to all that's going on?

In congressional testimony, the acting F.B.I. director, Andrew G. McCabe, has confirmed the existence of a "highly significant" investigation into possible collusion between Mr. Trump's associates and Russian operatives to sway the presidential election. The pace of the investigations has intensified in recent weeks, with a veteran espionage prosecutor, Brandon Van Grack, now leading a grand jury inquiry in Northern Virginia that is scrutinizing Mr. Flynn's foreign lobbying and has begun issuing subpoenas to businesses that worked with Mr. Flynn and his associates.

The New York Times has reviewed one of the subpoenas. It demands all "records, research, contracts, bank records, communications" and other documents related to work with Mr. Flynn and the Flynn Intel Group, the business he set up after he was forced out as chief of the Defense Intelligence Agency in 2014.

And there's this thread currently on the Backpage: Conservatives Begin to Whisper: President Pence

#28 | Posted by tonyroma at 2017-05-18 10:53 PM | Reply

Tony, Laura went through a lot to become capable of such "Hysterics". Lets show a little respect for all her efforts.

#29 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2017-05-19 10:34 AM | Reply

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