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Monday, May 15, 2017

President Donald Trump's shock firing of James Comey has brought the topic of impeachment to the fore. The possibility of the president being impeached by the House of Representatives and convicted by the U.S. Senate seems unlikely, seeing as Trump's fellow Republicans hold majorities in both chambers and Trump's popularity remains high among GOP voters. But the sacking of Comey, who as FBI director was leading the most serious official investigation into possible collusion between the 2016 Trump campaign and Russian hackers seeking to influence the election, has changed the calculus for bettors.

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"In the past 24 hours alone we've seen money for Trump to be impeached in his first term, resulting in us cutting the odds from 10/11 into 4/6," Irish bookmaking firm Paddy Power said in The Independent on Thursday. "We can attribute this to the news of Comey's sacking. [That] is the shortest we've been for Trump to be impeached in his first term."

Those odds put the possibility of a Trump impeachment at about 60 percent.

Why would Trump's removal of the FBI director -- who serves at the pleasure of the president -- shift the odds so dramatically? Because Trump's actions raise questions about obstruction of justice, a charge that played a featured role in the articles of impeachment that President Richard Nixon faced 40 years ago.

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"Of course, impeachment isn't the only possible way Trump might leave office early. British bookmaker Bet365 has 11/4 odds that Trump will be removed in his first term through the invocation of the 25th amendment.

The amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides for a majority of the administration's cabinet "or of such other body" created by Congress to remove the president if they determine he is unable to properly discharge his duties."

#1 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2017-05-15 06:59 AM | Reply

The idea of President Pence should be enough to squash any desires for a Trump impeachment.

#2 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-05-15 02:26 PM | Reply

Paddy Power will pay out early too!

#3 | Posted by homerj at 2017-05-15 05:19 PM | Reply

I'll take that bet.

And from past experience, no way I'm willing to make a wager with DR posters again.

#4 | Posted by WhiteDevil at 2017-05-16 02:22 AM | Reply

I've said for six months that impeachment begins in July. Too bad I'm not a gambler.

#5 | Posted by bocaink at 2017-05-16 02:51 AM | Reply

The majority in the House and Senate can't afford to ride the coattails of a Republican president facing obstruction of justice charges and possible impeachment (or resignation in disgrace) if they have any hope for their own re-election chances. But they'll hold their fire, I'm sure, until losing their own jobs becomes a near certainty ~ some of the smarter ones in swing districts or close state elections even sooner if they're facing strong challenges. It will be interesting to see who leads the pack first. We already know the fence sitters.

#6 | Posted by Twinpac at 2017-05-16 04:11 AM | Reply

I'd say the odds of impeachment just got worse for Trump yesterday. NOw, it's just a matter of time until the Republicans find their patriotism somewhere in their past and resurrect it if they can. If they can't then that party will go the way of the dinosaur.

#7 | Posted by danni at 2017-05-16 08:38 AM | Reply

The XXVth amendment refers to physical inability to do the job, not some made up B.S. like "loss of confidence" as in parliamentary systems.

A close reading of the amendment places Pence in charge, who might be even more "slash and burn" than Trump.

The next thing in the XXVth is that Trump gets back to work on a signed letter written by himself that he is not UNable to do the job.

Congress can get involved at that point, But it's worse than normal impeachment. If Congress gets involved you have to get 2/3 vote in the house to impeach. Then you have to remember that impeachment does not remove from office. Nixon was impeached, yet he resigned, was not voted out. (was going to be but...) Clinton was impeached but again never voted out by the Senate.

People need to settle down here. This kind of political tennis match can lead to violence. And, given the body count connected to the Clintons probably already has.

#8 | Posted by AWinter at 2017-05-16 09:04 AM | Reply

Here's a 100% bet...you are going to die.

Capricorn - you are going to die
Aquarius - you are going to die
Pisces - you are going to die
Aries - you are going to die
Taurus - you are going to die
Gemini - you are going to die twice
etc...

#9 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-16 09:25 AM | Reply

If they can't then that party will go the way of the dinosaur.

#7 | POSTED BY DANNI

Comrade you've lost both houses and the Executive Branch, with ether are you inhaling?

#10 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-16 09:27 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

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Just on the surface what a stupid statement.

#11 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-05-16 09:28 AM | Reply

"NOw, it's just a matter of time until the Republicans find their patriotism somewhere in their past and resurrect it if they can."

I think it will be more a matter of saving face in the, uh, face of plummeting national polls. They think their patriotism is fine.

#12 | Posted by LEgregius at 2017-05-16 09:29 AM | Reply

The idea of President Pence should be enough to squash any desires for a Trump impeachment.

#2 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-05-15 02:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

Even if they can get Pence implicated in all this too, the next in line is Paul "I Would Set My Own Children on Fire to Keep a Billionair Warm in Mildy Chilly Weather" Ryan.

#13 | Posted by Sully at 2017-05-16 09:55 AM | Reply

And, given the body count connected to the Clintons probably already has.

#8 | POSTED BY AWINTER

Tinfoil Hat Club member

#14 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-05-16 10:19 AM | Reply

Even if they can get Pence implicated in all this too, the next in line is Paul "I Would Set My Own Children on Fire to Keep a Billionair Warm in Mildy Chilly Weather" Ryan.

#13 | POSTED BY SULLY

At that point, the GOP brand is so astonishingly devastated that the party might be coming to an end.

#15 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-05-16 10:20 AM | Reply

"that the party might be coming to an end."

oh please.....can none of you ever learn anything?

how many times have you seen that absurd statement?

Trump and Pence could get cuffed in the oval office with hookers, lines of coke, and nuclear launch codes laying around and the GOP isn't going anywhere.

#16 | Posted by eberly at 2017-05-16 10:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump and Pence could get cuffed in the oval office with hookers, lines of coke, and nuclear launch codes laying around and the GOP isn't going anywhere.
#16 |

Fox News would lead with 'Pit Bull Attacks Girl In Texas'

#17 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2017-05-16 10:27 AM | Reply

"and the GOP isn't going anywhere"

It doesn't have to. It is cornered and it knows it.

#18 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2017-05-16 10:27 AM | Reply

"Fox News would lead with 'Pit Bull Attacks Girl In Texas'"

Last night:

CNN: Trump hands classified info to Russians!
MSNBC: Trump hands classified info to Russians!
ABC: Trump hands classified info to Russians!
CBS: Trump hands classified info to Russians!
NBC: Trump hands classified info to Russians!
WSJ: Trump hands classified info to Russians!

Tucker Carlson: These leaks are TERRIBLE!

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-16 10:29 AM | Reply

EBERLY

I believe that's true. No matter how cheap the presidency becomes there is always someone around who can make it cheaper. And the voting public, being what they are, will swallow just about any line of lies and b.s. as long as it has a pretty wrapper and big red bow on top.

#20 | Posted by Twinpac at 2017-05-16 10:36 AM | Reply

"CNN: Trump hands classified info to Russians!
MSNBC: Trump hands classified info to Russians!
ABC: Trump hands classified info to Russians!
CBS: Trump hands classified info to Russians!
NBC: Trump hands classified info to Russians!
WSJ: Trump hands classified info to Russians!"

exactly. the crying over Fox News is a mystery to me.

#21 | Posted by eberly at 2017-05-16 10:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"And the voting public, being what they are, will swallow just about any line of lies and b.s. as long as it has a pretty wrapper and big red bow on top."

There is no money in politics (and the profits for the news outlets reporting it) unless there is competition between 2 parties.

#22 | Posted by eberly at 2017-05-16 10:41 AM | Reply

>>exactly. the crying over Fox News is a mystery to me.

Not sure where youre going with that.

I just went to foxnews.com and this is their headline:

DC MURDER MYSTERY
Slain DNC staffer was WikiLeaks' source, say investigators

#23 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2017-05-16 10:44 AM | Reply

"Not sure where youre going with that."

Danforth listed 6 widely known media outlets in a matter of seconds that would all report the same thing.

so Fox News not reporting it is how big of a deal?

#24 | Posted by eberly at 2017-05-16 10:51 AM | Reply

"so Fox News not reporting it is how big of a deal?"

Depends. What's the bigger deal: what Trump did, or the fact insiders--worried about the country's security--told the truth about it?

#25 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-16 10:54 AM | Reply

I'd say it's a big deal. It should be the lead story.

#26 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2017-05-16 10:55 AM | Reply

"Danforth listed 6 widely known media outlets in a matter of seconds that would all report the same thing."

Yeah...that thing called news.

#27 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-16 10:56 AM | Reply

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Well, to 6 out of 7 media outlets mentioned...the bigger deal was what Trump did.

1 out of 7 thought something else was a bigger deal. So what?

#28 | Posted by eberly at 2017-05-16 10:59 AM | Reply

"I'd say it's a big deal. It should be the lead story."

I agree. so do 6 out of 7 media outlets.

It wouldn't be any fun if they all agreed.

If one doesn't agree and wants to report something neither you nor I consider news then so be it.

#29 | Posted by eberly at 2017-05-16 11:06 AM | Reply

Sure, there's room for different angles etc.
But c'mon, if Obama was doing the dancing jig that Bush did at the memorial service for fallen Dallas police officers last July, they'd still be looping that 24/7.

Just pointing out what everyone already knows about how biased they are.

Hahaha ok now this thread has me reading fox news for about the 3rd time in my life:

"The real scandal here concerns the current and former U.S. officials who spoke to the Washington Post to generate this story. We don't know if these sources lied, misrepresented what went on in the Trump meeting with the Russians, or were second-guessing what Trump told them."

Oh look, Crassus writes opinion pieces for Fox:

"Just as serious is how partisan cowards entrusted with national security information are anonymously leaking U.S. intelligence to ruin an American president and our democratic system. It's about time the mainstream media and congressional Democrats start focusing on the dangers of such leaks to our security and system of government instead of just using them to advance their political agenda against President Trump."

#30 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2017-05-16 11:20 AM | Reply

The bigger point Eberly, is that there are tons of people who get all of their information from places like Fox News. I honestly think Fox News is trying to tiptoe back to the mainstream without their diehards noticing too much. Even they realize at this point how much damage they've done to the American political discourse. Not saying they will ever admit it, but there are subtleties that are beginning to show and not-so-subtleties like Ayers, O'Reilly, etc...

I agree I don't want every channel to be forced to show the same news without being condemned, on this occasion it's a big enough deal to be unanimous.

#31 | Posted by bocaink at 2017-05-16 11:26 AM | Reply

"1 out of 7 thought something else was a bigger deal. So what?"

That 1 out of 7 is Fake News, and merely the apologist's arm of the Republican Party.

#32 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-16 11:28 AM | Reply

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so what?

"Just pointing out what everyone already knows about how biased they are."

well, not everyone obviously. Many Fox News viewers believe Fox is unbiased and everyone else is.

#33 | Posted by eberly at 2017-05-16 11:33 AM | Reply

"That 1 out of 7 is Fake News"

That article about the slain DNC worker is a fake story?

#34 | Posted by eberly at 2017-05-16 11:34 AM | Reply

"That article about the slain DNC worker is a fake story?"

Nice deflection.

The concept the real news is someone horrifically told the truth is the fake shiite.

#35 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-16 11:37 AM | Reply

It's not a deflection. I haven't participated in discussion about "fake news". I don't accuse anybody of reporting fake news and I don't defend it either.

It was a legitimate question.

#36 | Posted by eberly at 2017-05-16 11:40 AM | Reply

"The concept the real news is someone horrifically told the truth is the fake shiite."

You know what, I'm actually going to read the story and then I'll decide if it's fake.

#37 | Posted by eberly at 2017-05-16 11:42 AM | Reply

"It was a legitimate question."

I'm sure that story was true.

My point was if Fox News were in existence on November 23, 1963, their lead story would've been about the national weather.

#38 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-16 11:44 AM | Reply

"You know what, I'm actually going to read the story and then I'll decide if it's fake."

You do that.

And be sure to let us know what you think is the more important story: Trump giving highly classified secrets to the Russians, or the fact somebody snitched on him!

#39 | Posted by Danforth at 2017-05-16 11:46 AM | Reply

oops!!

the slain DNC staffer is not the lead story anymore....

www.foxnews.com

#40 | Posted by eberly at 2017-05-16 11:49 AM | Reply

"And be sure to let us know what you think is the more important story:"

I already did that.

#41 | Posted by eberly at 2017-05-16 11:53 AM | Reply

"the slain DNC staffer is not the lead story anymore"

They're feeling the heat applied from the DR...that's why we fight the good fight

#42 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2017-05-16 11:57 AM | Reply

The idea of President Pence should be enough to squash any desires for a Trump impeachment.

#2 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Trump has Pence lying too. The whole criminal cabal could go down. But that would leave us with President Paul Ryan, raping everyone so he can give tax cuts to people with overseas accounts.

#43 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-05-16 07:24 PM | Reply

Trump has Pence lying too. The whole criminal cabal could go down.

#43 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2017-05-16 07:24 PM | FLAG:

Far more likely to end up with Pence, then you've got a Christianity-first authoritarian for a president, whom actually has other friends like him in Congress.

That's way more daunting of a proposition than simply being led by an idiot who will be gone in about 3.5 years.

#44 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-05-17 12:41 PM | Reply

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