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Andrew Sullivan: [E]verywhere you see not an excoriation of one of the worst campaigns in recent history, leading to the Trump nightmare, but an attempt to blame anyone or anything but [Hillary] Clinton herself for the epic fail. It wasn't Clinton's fault, we're told. It never is. It was the voters' -- those ungrateful, deplorable know-nothings! Their sexism defeated her (despite a majority of white women voting for Trump). A wave of misogyny defeated her (ditto). James Comey is to blame. Bernie Sanders's campaign -- because it highlighted her enmeshment with Wall Street, her brain-dead interventionism and her rapacious money-grubbing since she left the State Department -- was the problem.

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"Bernie Sanders's campaign -- because it highlighted her enmeshment with Wall Street, her brain-dead interventionism and her rapacious money-grubbing since she left the State Department -- was the problem"

Although Bernie did a good job of putting that stuff out there, i don't think she would have won even if he'd remained silent about it. Hillary was just a bad choice. And the evidence of that is the fact that she didn't beat Trump. And before the claws come out, everyone knows how the EC works.

#1 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2017-04-16 01:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Andrew Sullivan has an obsessive hatred of Hillary Clinton that goes back decades.

#2 | Posted by rcade at 2017-04-16 04:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's very simple, I just don't like her cankles.

#3 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-04-16 06:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Its worse than that. Russia did it and the dog ate my homework.

#4 | Posted by nutcase at 2017-04-16 07:12 PM | Reply

[...] Until the DNC starts hearing the message, they're going to keep losing seats.

#5 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2017-04-16 07:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why do people think that democrats feel sorry for Hillary? What an idiot!

If Bernie Sanders had any balls he would have run as an Independent... like he claimed he was. He sold out. So seriously people get over the "what she did to Bernie" B.S. He screwed himself playing the socialist do-gooder nonsense. All the Berniebot boohoos made me want to barf. He's a big a political whore as any of them. Only dumbasses can't see that.

I was bummed Hillary didn't win... like most of us who supported her were... but I don't know anyone who feels sorry for her. Hillary is a force of nature in her own right and all the speculating about why she lost is a lot of rhetorical hoohaa. She won the popular vote.

I watched the same "progressive" leftwingnut misogynistic jackals who spent their hours promulgating their spew before then begging for people to vote for her as the lesser of two evils... (eye roll)... then came the melt down as Donald took the victory. Idiots... you got Donald Trump and he is what you deserve.

You belong in the pit of stupid with the republiclowns because you are just a big an idiot as he was.

Hillary is doing ... fine she is way bigger as a person than anyone has come up with in a long time.... and with all your blathering you still have nothing to compare. All your conspiracy accusations are meaningless and they make you look more stupid than you are... as if such a thing were possible.

#6 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2017-04-16 07:29 PM | Reply

You know, it's possible to think the messenger is tainted by obsessive dislike AND find that Hillary was a flawed candidate.

Personally I could give a crap about her. But pretending sexism wasn't involved in her defeat is foolish. It's a pretty easy Google to find a boatload of Trump supporters who said they would never support a woman for president.

#7 | Posted by cbob at 2017-04-16 07:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Andrew Sullivan has an obsessive hatred of Hillary Clinton that goes back decades.
#2 | POSTED BY RCADE

But he did support Bill Clinton .... so .... wonder what he saw ...

About the only thing you could with any honesty is he was on Obama's side in 08'

but I don't know anyone who feels sorry for her.

You don't understand what he means, its ok, try reading the article, if you still don't get it, you might be one of the "stupid" people you are talking about.

#8 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2017-04-16 07:37 PM | Reply

#7

I have no doubt that there was sexism among some voters. I'm also aware of a significant number of voters who say they would of had little trouble voting for a different woman in the race. And a number of people did vote for Jill Stein instead of Hillary.

#9 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2017-04-16 07:37 PM | Reply

You know, it's possible to think the messenger is tainted by obsessive dislike AND find that Hillary was a flawed candidate.

Doesn't refute his/her arguments....

It's a pretty easy Google to find a boatload of Trump supporters who said they would never support a woman for president.
#7 | POSTED BY CBOB

So what? A Trump supporter that wouldn't vote for a woman, go figure ....

Find some Democrats that said that and you might have something.

#10 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2017-04-16 07:39 PM | Reply

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"If Bernie Sanders had any balls he would have run as an Independent... like he claimed he was. He sold out. So seriously people get over the "what she did to Bernie" B.S. He screwed himself playing the socialist do-gooder nonsense. All the Berniebot boohoos made me want to barf. He's a big a political whore as any of them. Only dumbasses can't see that.
#6 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2017-04-16 07:29 P"

If Bernie ran as a independent you would be screaming he was another Nader.

He caucuses with the Dems and has raised money for the Dems and he is right now running around the country with the head of the DNC giving speeches trying to recruit new people to run as Dem candidates and to vote for Dems.

he did not start calling himself socialist when he started to run for president as you imply He has been calling himself a socialist for decades.

Yes it is just so terrible he wants to do good instead of the bidding of the 1 percent of the 1 percent.

Yeah Bernie Sanders who refused to have a super pac is the whore not hillary who made millions speaking to wall-street billionaires
and who refused to release her wall-street speeches to the public.

get real

#11 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2017-04-16 08:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

WhatsLeft: Anybody who reads Andrew Sullivan regularly knows that he's over the top when it comes to Hillary. He never got over the '90s anti-Clinton hysteria that helped make his name. I don't care if you think that's shooting the messenger. It's worth bringing up whenever he starts ranting about her again.

#12 | Posted by rcade at 2017-04-16 09:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He caucuses with the Dems and has raised money for the Dems ...

Bernie Sanders hasn't raised one-tenth as much for Democrats as Hillary has.

He broke the promise he made during the campaign to remain a Democrat after the election.

For all his good qualities, he's still a politician and his supporters are silly to think otherwise. He's as capable of being two-faced as other politicians. He wouldn't have survived 40 years in politics otherwise.

#13 | Posted by rcade at 2017-04-16 09:29 PM | Reply

I was -WithHer-> all the way.

#15 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2017-04-16 10:44 PM | Reply

they're going to keep losing seats.

#5 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT

Ummmm the GOP lost six seats in 2016...

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2017-04-16 11:29 PM | Reply

"Anybody who reads Andrew Sullivan regularly knows that he's over the top when it comes to Hillary. He never got over the '90s anti-Clinton hysteria that helped make his name. I don't care if you think that's shooting the messenger. It's worth bringing up whenever he starts ranting about her again."

This reminds me of posters I used to see on Usenet who'd always reflexively bring up others' posting histories in order to deflect from criticism which was probably true. Classic ad hominem fallacy.

#17 | Posted by sentinel at 2017-04-17 12:27 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Sentinel: If you want to pretend that Andrew Sullivan has something to offer on the subject of Hillary Clinton that isn't ancient hatred, be my guest. It's like asking a divorced man whether his ex-wife is a good catch. You will definitely get a fresh, unbiased take.

#18 | Posted by rcade at 2017-04-17 12:44 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

If you want to pretend that Andrew Sullivan has something to offer on the subject of Hillary Clinton that isn't ancient hatred, be my guest.

Why don't you specifically address the criticisms you think are false or biased instead of broad brushing it?

That'd be the easiest thing to do...no?

#19 | Posted by jpw at 2017-04-17 01:06 AM | Reply

"Bernie Sanders hasn't raised one-tenth as much for Democrats as Hillary has."

I dont care he still raised money for the Dems if you read the comment I was responding to you will understand why I post that.

"He broke the promise he made during the campaign to remain a Democrat after the election."

And the DNC cheated for hillary but yet he is still out their with the
new head of the DNC on a speaking tour trying to recruit new candidates for the Dems and new voters for the Dems

#20 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2017-04-17 02:09 AM | Reply

Why don't you specifically address the criticisms you think are false or biased instead of broad brushing it?

If someone linked InfoWars here would you tell me I need to specifically refute Alex Jones' claims about Hillary Clinton being a demon?

#21 | Posted by rcade at 2017-04-17 08:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

It isn't that they feel sorry for Hillary, it is that they don't want to admit they were duped by a greedy and aloof candidate who ran an awful campaign. And they don't want to admit what their failure to see the loss coming exposed some of their blind spots with regards to the desperate times other Americans are experiencing.

#22 | Posted by Sully at 2017-04-17 09:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

They weren't duped. They knew what they were voting for.

#23 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-04-17 10:11 AM | Reply

We were voting for four more years of the Obama agenda, the continuation of Obamacare, a return to the prosperous Clinton economics of the 1990s, liberal Supreme Court appointments and an adult running the show.

How terrible that would have been!

I'm so glad that instead we have a comically uninformed, emotionally erratic man-child who spends five hours a day watching cable news and goes into rage spirals on Twitter that could get us all killed.

#25 | Posted by rcade at 2017-04-17 10:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Well so far you've gotten all of that except a liberal SC appointment.

#26 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-04-17 10:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

comically uninformed,
erratic man-child

No problem,

Tellytubby dressed Bond villainess, edit.

#28 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-04-17 10:32 AM | Reply

He broke the promise he made during the campaign to remain a Democrat after the election. - #13 | Posted by rcade at 2017-04-16 09:29 PM
I've seen where his campaign manager said that, but nothing by him personally. Do you have a citation, or are you conflating 2 people's statement?

Ummmm the GOP lost six seats in 2016... - #16 | Posted by jpw at 2017-04-16 11:29 PM
You including state and local elections?

#29 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-04-17 10:36 AM | Reply

Avigdore: You could have answered your own question with an easy Google search. It's not hard to find examples of Sanders promising he'd stay a Democrat after the election. Here's one:

Do you consider yourself a Democrat?

Bernie: Right now, I am a Democrat obviously and we're going to fight as hard as we can to transform the Democratic Party. So that's where I am right now.

Right now?

Bernie: No. It's fair to say that's where I am and that's where I'll stay.

Does that mean you're going to be changing your website?

Bernie: No. I was elected as an independent from Vermont in this cycle and I will certainly stay that way for the next two years.

And then when you come back, it will say D-Vt?

Bernie: If I come back.

One of the reasons Sanders lost the primary is because some Democrats didn't believe his commitment to the party. When you join a party right before a presidential run it makes you look like an opportunist. When you quit right after the run, breaking your promise, it doesn't make you look like someone who cares about the party. What's he going to do for 2020 if he runs again -- switch back to Democrat?

#30 | Posted by rcade at 2017-04-17 10:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Return to prosperous Clinton economics? Hillary was going to create another tech and housing bubble? She won't even talk about economics in front of regular people anymore. If you want to hear Hillary talk about ecnomics, you have to be rich and you have plunk down at least $10K for a seat in the room.

Hillary's ecnomic policy is: Fete the 0.1% at the expense of everyone else. Same one we have now. Same policy we've had for decades. The other dirtbag was at least smart enough to lie to people about presuring something different.

#31 | Posted by Sully at 2017-04-17 10:47 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

- When you quit right after the run, breaking your promise,

Which 'promise breaker' would you rather have running the country right now?

#32 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2017-04-17 10:50 AM | Reply

Why would anyone vote for someone based on how much they care about a political party rather than how much they care about Americans?

If that's the reason Democrats chose Hillary over Bernie, that's more a problem with Democrat voters than it is with Bernie.

#33 | Posted by Sully at 2017-04-17 11:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sullivan's assertion that Hillary conducted "one of the worst campaigns in recent history" is absurd. It was a close race in which Hillary won the popular vote and Trump allegedly won the electoral college vote. Rethugs have the motive and the means to effect such an outcome by cheating in key districts. This doesn't mean cheating can be proven at this stage, only that there are so many weaknesses in our election system that reversing election outcomes by cheating are technically feasible without being detected. Hillary was weakened by the Bernie campaign which broke new ground in US Presidential campaigns by widening the debates.

The Trump victory is a nightmare because Trump's support was based on his appeal to populist issues which is a calculated system of deceit. Trump even tried to appeal to the defeated Sanders voters. There is no connection between the reasons Trump received the votes he did and his current policies.

#34 | Posted by nutcase at 2017-04-17 11:06 AM | Reply

If that's your evidence that he's breaking a promise, then we just have different definitions of promises and lies. In that very comment, he says he'll stay independent for the next 2 years. The article is based on his saying, less than 2 weeks after your quote, "I was elected as an independent, so I'll stay two years more as an independent,".

"I am not now, nor have I ever been, a liberal Democrat," he said in a 1985 New England Monthly profile

When asked if he would officially join the party on April 30, 2015, when he announced his candidacy, Sanders said, "No, I am an independent who is going to be working with the -- " cutting himself off mid-sentence.

Again, accepting that our opinions on lies and promises may differ, I don't see anywhere that he's promised to remain a member of the democratic party post-election.

#35 | Posted by Avigdore at 2017-04-17 11:06 AM | Reply

Sullivan's assertion that Hillary conducted "one of the worst campaigns in recent history" is absurd. It was a close race in which Hillary won the popular vote and Trump allegedly won the electoral college vote.

#34 | Posted by nutcase at 2017-04-17 11:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

That's doesn't make her campaign any more competent. She lost close to someone she should have dominated.

#36 | Posted by Sully at 2017-04-17 11:21 AM | Reply

Sullivan's assertion that Hillary conducted "one of the worst campaigns in recent history" is absurd.

#34 | POSTED BY NUTCASE AT 2017-04-17 11:06 AM | REPLY

Not really. She out-spent him 2 to 1 including SuperPACs. She was endorsed by almost every media outlet. She was running against one of the most polarizing figures in US political history, whom had zero political experience and got all his news from watching television 5 hours a day. She had a massive political machine using all of the latest ideas and technology, built up over decades.

She still lost. Couldn't fill a stadium, couldn't get enthusiasm behind her, used poor economic messaging, and then quit campaigning when they thought they had it in the bag, to go fight for down-ballot seats that turned into an even greater defeat.

#37 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-04-17 11:27 AM | Reply

Bernie can't do math, but at least he could fill a stadium.

#38 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-04-17 11:27 AM | Reply

I don't perceive people as feeling sorry for HRC. A lot of us are angry at her for reasons that are maybe misplaced. But 'pity' is not a feeling I associate with HRC.

#39 | Posted by moder8 at 2017-04-17 11:33 AM | Reply

"Why Do Democrats Feel Sorry for Hillary?"

Hmmm...any chance Andrew Sullivan is begging the question?

#40 | Posted by TheTom at 2017-04-17 11:54 AM | Reply

If that's your evidence that he's breaking a promise, then we just have different definitions of promises and lies.

I quoted him saying he would remain a Democrat. His campaign said repeatedly he would remain a Democrat. It's an obvious broken promise and your inability to see that is Trumpian.

#41 | Posted by rcade at 2017-04-17 01:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Is there ANY lie Trump could tell which would upset his supporters? I genuinely doubt it. So long as he has an (R) after his name, he is golden as far as they are concerned.

#42 | Posted by moder8 at 2017-04-17 01:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump supporters feel the same way about Trump lies that Obama supporters feel about Obama lies. Nobody cares. Lying on policy issues is not a deal breaker if it means voting for the other team.

#43 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-04-17 01:35 PM | Reply

Sitz, you are wrong. Obama supporters such as myself were very angry at him for expanding NSA domestic surveillance and failing to shut down Gitmo. Just because the Republican voters are pretty much just a despicable group of whores doesn't mean Obama supporters were as well.

#44 | Posted by moder8 at 2017-04-17 01:40 PM | Reply

Yeah that's why he won twice. People held his feet to the fire and punished him for the lies.

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#45 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-04-17 01:49 PM | Reply

#36 &37, Compared to what Reagan's rout over Mondale in 1984 or Bush's victory over Dukakis in 1988?

By killing and threatening foreign people Trump's approval rating has climbed to about 50%. Attacking foreigners with military force is the most reliable method for increasing a President's popularity.

#46 | Posted by nutcase at 2017-04-17 01:50 PM | Reply

Sitz, you are wrong. Obama supporters such as myself were very angry at him for expanding NSA domestic surveillance and failing to shut down Gitmo. Just because the Republican voters are pretty much just a despicable group of whores doesn't mean Obama supporters were as well.

#44 | POSTED BY MODER8

Key words: "such as myself".

Whilst you are pro-Democrat you are not a partisan hack. Sitz wasn't describing you.

#47 | Posted by JeffJ at 2017-04-17 01:51 PM | Reply

I'm so glad that instead we have a comically uninformed, emotionally erratic man-child who spends five hours a day watching cable news and goes into rage spirals on Twitter that could get us all killed.

And that Hillary couldn't run a competent enough campaign to beat that speaks volumes.

#49 | Posted by jpw at 2017-04-17 01:57 PM | Reply

Sullivan's assertion that Hillary conducted "one of the worst campaigns in recent history" is absurd. It was a close race in which Hillary won the popular vote and Trump allegedly won the electoral college vote.

Except the EC is the name of the game. If her campaign didn't know that then they were in fact extremely incompetent.

#50 | Posted by jpw at 2017-04-17 01:59 PM | Reply

Nothing she could've done to respond to the Russian interference and the abject lunacy of stalwart Drumpfies/Bernie Bros who glommed onto fake news and Hillary hatred to give the election, despite her overwhelming popular vote victory, to Orange #45.

Andrew Sullivan was an Iraq War cheerleader and sellout long before he saw whatever light people claim he saw. I have nothing but disdain for the hack. He shows his true colors here, and they are ugly.

#51 | Posted by chuffy at 2017-04-17 02:07 PM | Reply

lol Russian Interference.

DNC emails that showed.. how a political party works, and no actual wrong doing.

It's not the Russians, it was her economic message. The same people that voted for Obama for economic reasons, voted for Trump, in the key districts that swung over entire states.

#52 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-04-17 02:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ummmm the GOP lost six seats in 2016...

#16 | POSTED BY JPW

Ummm, Democrats have lost over nine hundred seats since 2008.

www.politifact.com

#53 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2017-04-17 02:56 PM | Reply

When you stop feeling sorry for her, you have to find those who are accountable. The DNC isn't doing accountability.

All this because Tim Kaine just had to be the VP candidate. It's so embarrassing, I wouldn't want to talk about it either.

#54 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2017-04-17 05:42 PM | Reply

Andrew Sullivan has an obsessive hatred of Hillary Clinton that goes back decades.

#2 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2017-04-16 04:32 PM

C'mon RCade, if you had taken a moment to read the article you would have seen these facts:

1. Clinton had the backing of the entire Democratic establishment, including the president;

2. Clinton was married to the last, popular Democratic president;

3. Everything was stacked in her favor, the Clintons so intimidated other potential candidates and donors, she had the nomination all but wrapped up before she even started.

4. Clinton ran with a popular Democratic incumbent president in the White House in a growing economy.

5. Clinton had the extra allure of possibly breaking a glass ceiling that -- with any other female candidate -- would have been as inspiring as the election of the first black president.

6. Clinton, however, still only managed to squeak through in the primaries against an elderly, stopped-clock socialist who wasn't even in her party, and who spent his honeymoon in the Soviet Union.

7. In the general election, Clinton was running against a malevolent buffoon with no political experience, with a deeply divided party behind him, and whose negatives were stratospheric.

8. Clinton outspent Trump by almost two-to-one. Her convention was far more impressive than his. The demographics favored her.

Clinton still managed to lose.

And you feel sorry for her why....?

#55 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-04-17 06:32 PM | Reply

He didn't say he felt sorry for her. Can you read?

#56 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2017-04-17 07:56 PM | Reply

He didn't need to, his attack on Andrew Sullivan said it all.

#57 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2017-04-17 08:28 PM | Reply

And you feel sorry for her why....?

#55 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

She will never know of his forbidden love for her...Corky yes she filed a restraining order after all...

#58 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-04-17 11:03 PM | Reply

I don't know any Democrats who feel sorry for her.

#59 | Posted by Sycophant at 2017-04-18 10:44 AM | Reply

a return to the prosperous Clinton economics of the 1990s, #25 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2017-04-17 10:25 AM | REPLY

I think the dot bomb days have come and gone and the aftermath left a shock wave when Clinton left office.

#60 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-04-18 01:01 PM | Reply

Why should anyone fell sorry for her? Do you think she would feel sorry for someone else? She is a hardened life time politician. I'm sure she is just really pissed she lost and rips everyone but herself for losing.

#61 | Posted by fishpaw at 2017-04-18 01:33 PM | Reply

Andrew Sullivan was an Iraq War cheerleader

#51 | Posted by chuffy at 2017-04-17 02:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

Shouldn't that be a feather in his cap to the pro-Hillary crowd?

#62 | Posted by Sully at 2017-04-18 01:43 PM | Reply

I think the dot bomb days have come and gone and the aftermath left a shock wave when Clinton left office.

#60 | Posted by fishpaw

Deregulation is the shockwave that hit us after clinton left office. Same thing trump is doing now.

#63 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-04-18 01:53 PM | Reply

I think the dot bomb days have come and gone and the aftermath left a shock wave when Clinton left office.

The dot-coms weren't the only part of the U.S. economy that boomed during the Clinton years. It was yet another example of the economy doing far better under Democrats than it does under Republicans, and Bill Clinton managed to achieve it even as the Republican Congress was dragging the country through a multi-year effort to shame him over an affair.

#64 | Posted by rcade at 2017-04-18 02:30 PM | Reply

And you feel sorry for her why....?

I've never said a word about feeling sorry for Hillary.

Unlike the Trumpers who keep dragging Hillary out to distract from his failures, the Democrats who still want to argue about the campaign and the obsessed Hillary-hating muppet Andrew Sullivan, I regard her as old news.

It seems completely foolish for anyone to focus on Hillary when Trump is driving this country to catastrophe like it was one of his casinos.

#65 | Posted by rcade at 2017-04-18 02:38 PM | Reply

#64 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2017-04-18 02:30 PM | FLAG:

Presidents are not dictators with command economies. If it was "great under Bill" that also means it was "great under Bill with a Republican congress".

#66 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2017-04-18 02:41 PM | Reply

The dot-coms weren't the only part of the U.S. economy that boomed during the Clinton years. It was yet another example of the economy doing far better under Democrats than it does under Republicans, and Bill Clinton managed to achieve it even as the Republican Congress was dragging the country through a multi-year effort to shame him over an affair.

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The dot-com bubble burst under Clinton too. (Not that he had anything to do with the start of the dot-com bubble not its burst.)

#67 | Posted by Pirate at 2017-04-18 04:42 PM | Reply

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