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Monday, April 17, 2017

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) on Saturday called for the U.S. to abolish the death penalty, as Arkansas seeks to execute seven inmates before the end of the month. "Virtually every Western industrialized country has chosen to end capital punishment," Sanders tweeted. "The United States should join them." Sanders tweet came moments after a federal judge issued a preliminary injunction Saturday to halt Arkansas's plan to execute seven inmates before the state's lethal injection drug supply expires at the end of the month.

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By the way Bernie Sanders now has his own talk show on Face Book Live

"he's used the platform to highlight concerns of his - like campaign finance reform and climate change – and bring on guests like New Yorker writer Jane Mayer and "Science Guy" Bill Nye."

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#1 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2017-04-16 12:21 AM | Reply

I so agree. what a barbaric practice.

#2 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2017-04-16 12:23 AM | Reply

#2 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2017-04-16 12:23 AM | R

Yup, the death penalty is completely immoral, Its iniquitous

#3 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2017-04-16 12:45 AM | Reply

I oppose the death penalty too except in certain extreme cases. I would prefer a lifetime of hard labor until death.

When co-workers were saying Dylan Roof should get the death penalty I disagree with them. I pointed out a better punishment for him was life in prison where he would get systemically raped by big black men.

#4 | Posted by jamesgelliott at 2017-04-17 08:21 AM | Reply

where he would get systemically raped by big black men.

#4 | Posted by jamesgelliott

- watches WAY too much faux-reality TV.

#5 | Posted by moder8 at 2017-04-17 06:38 PM | Reply

I oppose life in prison. To me, THAT is pure torture. If a criminal can be rehabilitated, fine. Give them a date or steps to follow so that they have a reason to rehabilitate and re-enter society. If, on the other hand, they can not be rehabilitated, or flat out say they can't wait to get out to rape, pillage and kill again, fry their ass a week from conviction date.

#6 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2017-04-17 06:44 PM | Reply

Don't trust the government to report unemployment accurately.
Do trust the government to execute the right man.

Obviously you don't think about it that way. You just think some people deserve to die, and since mob justice isn't allowed, you use the state to deliver the same outcome.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-04-17 06:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"where he would get systemically raped by big black men."

more likely to be raped by big white men .. with swastika tats .. and want to make america great again.

#8 | Posted by klifferd at 2017-04-17 07:00 PM | Reply

Loser criminals who kill others deserve to die as retribution. Why should they live to kill again? The most important thing is are they guilty beyond all doubt.

#9 | Posted by Robson at 2017-04-17 07:33 PM | Reply

- Why should they live

Because they're human beings, and we're supposed to be the rational ones.

#10 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2017-04-17 07:46 PM | Reply

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I am generally against the death penalty--too many ways to kill an innocent person of the crime charged with to get the DP. The person might be a really bad or evil person with all kinds of crimes in the past, but there are too many ways by error, mistake, negligence, stupidity, arrogance or malice that some folks might be convicted wrongfully.

I heard one of the 7 to be executed was convicted of murder many years ago--laughed at the victims family saying he would get out of prison, which he did. He then went and killed two more people and now on death row.

Once there is only life in prison the liberals will then want that to be done away with--saying it is cruel and unusual punishment.

#11 | Posted by MURPHY at 2017-04-17 08:01 PM | Reply

If they have murdered and you do not want to execute them, then they should be incarcerated for life so that they cannot never again endanger the American public. Personally, I am pro death penalty which is obviously at odds with my investment in GEO.

#12 | Posted by MSgt at 2017-04-17 08:04 PM | Reply

Wow you think it's okay to profit off crime?

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-04-17 08:22 PM | Reply

With two million incarcerated, and a dozen or so executions​ a year, it's not really at odds at all.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-04-17 08:24 PM | Reply

- Why should they live

Depends. Are you pro-life or not?

#15 | Posted by donnerboy at 2017-04-17 09:19 PM | Reply

Pro killing, and pro rape too.
This is practically the definition of the Ugly American.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2017-04-17 09:34 PM | Reply

Pro-innocent life.

#17 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2017-04-17 09:37 PM | Reply

I oppose the death penalty too except in certain extreme cases. I would prefer a lifetime of hard labor until death.
When co-workers were saying Dylan Roof should get the death penalty I disagree with them. I pointed out a better punishment for him was life in prison where he would get systemically raped by big black men.

#4 | POSTED BY JAMESGELLIOTT AT 2017-04-17 08:21 AM | FLAG:

So you are in favor of torture. Got it.

#18 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-04-18 03:41 AM | Reply

"If, on the other hand, they can not be rehabilitated, or flat out say they can't wait to get out to rape, pillage and kill again, fry their ass a week from conviction date."

So you are against due process. Got it.

#19 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2017-04-18 03:42 AM | Reply

DNA technology has highlighted how deeply flawed our judicial system is. That alone justifies ending the death penalty. Few citizens realize they fund the world's largest greed driven killing machine, which is accountable to no one.

#20 | Posted by nutcase at 2017-04-18 09:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Lifetime imprisonment in supermax removes the person from society permanently protecting society from further harm by the individual. The Death penalty has no redeeming value, especially since it is most often used in cases which trigger strong emotions that make it MORE likely errors will be made. Unless you can convince me that the courts are infallible I will never support the death penalty.

it kills me how much trust people put in our court system. People can watch OJ and Casey Anthony skate but are ok with executing a man whose attorney slept through the trial.

The Casey Anthony miniseries brought her story back up and people were talking at work. I heard a guy say "If they couldn't convict Casey with all that evidence that means that when they do convict someone they have even MORE evidence than that."

What a blindly trusting assumption! A good DA can convict mother Theresa. I have a Private investigator friend who worked a high profile case here a few years ago. A man was convicted of killing his wife. No body. No murder weapon, and a family attorney who made 7 trips to Belize during the 3 week trial. Beyond a reasonable doubt my ass

#21 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-04-18 10:46 AM | Reply

So you are against the government doing its constitutional duty to protect the property rights of the drug company through patent law?

So you believe that Anyone should be able to reverse engineer the drug and make it and compete?

If so, are you against counterfeiting? Ok with cheap knockoffs from China?

patent law is what allows a company to recoup the cost of R&D and incentivises innovation. Without the patent laws you hate A company could not justify spending millions or even billions in R&D only to have another company skip that step and manufacture and sell the same drug without incurring any of the R&D costs.

The problem is not government the problem is vulture capitalism and raw greed

#22 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-04-18 11:15 AM | Reply


Pro-innocent life.

#17 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2017-04-17 09:37 PMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

You are a lousy Christian.

#23 | Posted by leadbelly at 2017-04-18 11:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Who is innocent? Who is guilty? The courts have been proven to get it wrong quite often.

Are you ok with executing a few innocent men as long as we kill some guilty ones too?

I'm not.

Until you can give me an ironclad proof of the infallibility of the courts the state shouldn't be killing anyone. You can't take it back

#24 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-04-18 01:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Loser criminals who kill others deserve to die as retribution.

#9 | Posted by Robson

You know who agrees with you? Iran, Saudi Arabia, China, and North Korea.

Funny how republicans agree on so many things with the countries they say they hate.

#25 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2017-04-18 07:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The death penalty is great because juries never make mistakes. No innocent people have ever been executed in the United States.

Actually claimed by right wingers not that long ago. Innocence Project has proven them wrong quite a few times now.

#26 | Posted by danni at 2017-04-18 07:25 PM | Reply

Memories, like the corners of my mind.....

"Justice Scalia Says Executing The Innocent Doesn't Violate The Constitution"

RALEIGH N.C. (Reuters) - Two North Carolina men were declared innocent and ordered freed on Tuesday after spending more than 30 years in prison for the rape and murder of an 11-year-old girl that recent DNA tests linked to another man.

Henry McCollum, 50, and his half brother Leon Brown, 46, were teenagers when they were arrested for the 1983 rape and killing of Sabrina Buie, whose body was left in a field in the small town of Red Springs.

www.businessinsider.com

And just consider, our newest SC Justice thought Scalia was a role model.

#27 | Posted by danni at 2017-04-18 07:31 PM | Reply

Memories, like the corners of my mind.....

"Justice Scalia Says Executing The Innocent Doesn't Violate The Constitution"

RALEIGH N.C. (Reuters) - Two North Carolina men were declared innocent and ordered freed on Tuesday after spending more than 30 years in prison for the rape and murder of an 11-year-old girl that recent DNA tests linked to another man.

Henry McCollum, 50, and his half brother Leon Brown, 46, were teenagers when they were arrested for the 1983 rape and killing of Sabrina Buie, whose body was left in a field in the small town of Red Springs.

www.businessinsider.com

And just consider, our newest SC Justice thought Scalia was a role model.

#28 | Posted by danni at 2017-04-18 07:31 PM | Reply

"Justice Scalia Says Executing The Innocent Doesn't Violate The Constitution"

You can spit out the misleading quote but I bet dollars to donuts you can't explain what he was saying in context.

#29 | Posted by et_al at 2017-04-18 08:04 PM | Reply

"So you are in favor of torture. Got it."

No. I said life in prison was WORSE than taking a dirt nap. If you want to classify a life term and the hardships that go with it as "torture" that's up to you. It would be torturous for me. I'd kill myself before I spent decades in prison without hope for release.

#30 | Posted by jamesgelliott at 2017-04-18 08:05 PM | Reply

"Are you ok with executing a few innocent men as long as we kill some guilty ones too?"

Humans by most definitions are imperfect.

Are you ok with ending all air travel when a jet goes down?

No you keep trying until you get it right.

Do you think the judgments in Nuremberg were overly harsh?

#31 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2017-04-19 02:23 AM | Reply

Humans by most definitions are imperfect.
Are you ok with ending all air travel when a jet goes down?

Comparing apples to Buicks.

#32 | Posted by 726 at 2017-04-19 10:49 AM | Reply

Sell them as slave labor. The US Constitution was amended to outlaw slavery, except in cases as punishment for a crime.
We don't need farm labor from outside the country when there is plenty of labor sitting in jail.

Life in prison? No, life in slavery. It's legal under our Constitution and also not cruel or unusual punishment.

#33 | Posted by Petrous at 2017-04-19 10:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I have a huge problem with using inmates as a labor pool. Pay non-criminal Americans for those jobs. The compnaies that make use of the slave labor wont pass the savings on to the consumer they will buy another gold plated toilet and we will have to pay for food stamps and housing assistance for the unemployed American that should be GETTING PAID to do that work

#34 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2017-04-19 11:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There could be an argument for the death penalty if it weren't for the fact that dozens of people have been exonerated. Is just one wrongful death worth it?

#35 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2017-04-19 02:25 PM | Reply

I'm still surprised there are Christians out there who support the death penalty, but whom also believe in an "all forgiving" god. As in, why would anyone want to send a criminal to a realm where (if he repents) all of his sins will be forgiven and he gets to spend eternity in paradise? If I were Christian, I would be against the death penalty SOLELY to ensure the criminal's consciousness experiences punishment. There is no way of knowing one way or the other what happens post the cessation of brain activity. Hence, why are we leaving the sense of punishment up to the unknown? Yes, it could very well be even worse than any punishment doled out here on Earth, but.....We. Simply. Don't. Know. I say stick with what we do know and run with that. Until there's some evidence of what happens postmortem, the punishment should be practical and rational. Considering the risk of executing innocence, capital punishment is neither practical nor rational within these two parameters.

#36 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2017-04-19 02:53 PM | Reply

If Christians as a whole were against the death penalty and petitioned the gov't not to do it based on religion, there would be an outcry of the Establishment Clause.

Don't bring religion into a legal issue since religion isn't wanted as the basis.

#37 | Posted by Petrous at 2017-04-20 01:50 PM | Reply

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