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Tuesday, November 29, 2016

Tension is brewing within the Dakota Access protest as complaints grow about outside activists trashing the camps, mooching donations and treating the anti-pipeline demonstration like a Burning Man-style festival for hippies. "Need to get something off my chest that I witnessed and found very disturbing in my brief time there that I believe many others have started to speak up about as well. White people colonizing the camps," Alicia Smith said in a Facebook post.

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Standing Rock Sioux Chairman David Archambault II, who is leading the protest, raised concerns about sanitation in a Nov. 23 interview with Vice, saying activists are "digging pits out there for their human waste.""That's a flood zone," said Mr. Archambault, referring to camps on federal land along the Cannonball River. "So when the floodwaters come up, that waste is going to be contaminating the water. We're no different than the oil company, if we're fighting for water. What's going to happen when people leave? Who has to clean it up? Who has to refurbish it? It's going to be us, the people who live here."

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I didn't know that Native Americans don't poop.

#1 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2016-11-29 10:59 AM | Reply

"A Nov. 3 post on Facebook by Jon Petronzio told would-be protesters to leave drugs and alcohol at home, warning: "This is not burning man or a festival. Do not bring your party at the expense of these people fighting for life and death."

He said later that he had made the post in a "bout of anger and frustration at non-natives."

"The main thing that I want to stress is that these people are NOT the majority and there are many people being wonderful allies and contributing in powerful and humble ways. We still need everyone there," Mr. Petronzio said in a Nov. 26 post."

Translation: These hippies are useless and annoying but we need their money.

#2 | Posted by Sully at 2016-11-29 11:46 AM | Reply

#2
You are lousy at translation.

#3 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2016-11-29 12:16 PM | Reply

#3 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2016-11-29 12:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

You're lousy at having your own thoughts on posted content. Your only purpose here seems to be to flail at others.

If you think I'm wrong about Petronzio's backtracking, explain. (Yes, you're being challenged to provide evidence that you have actual thoughts)

#4 | Posted by Sully at 2016-11-29 12:21 PM | Reply

Stick to bad translations, Sully. Taking the words of others and reducing them to the lowest common denominator is simply sniping.

I used to have a boss who would listen to well thought out statements and reduce them to "so in other words..." He would then replace the words of the speaker and reduce them to ignorant moronic statements that were insulting to the speaker and had nothing to do with the substance of the statement.

Funny thing, he was a drunken Irishman named Sullivan too.

#5 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2016-11-29 12:41 PM | Reply

#5 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2016-11-29 12:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

So you have no thoughts of your own on the quote in question just like I said. Thank you for being foolish enough to prove me right about you.

#6 | Posted by Sully at 2016-11-29 12:44 PM | Reply

Yeah, Sully. You are the boss and I'm here to fluff-you-up with hop-to obedience to your every whim.

Sad, really. But very Trumpian. So you got that going for you.

#7 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2016-11-29 12:55 PM | Reply

I used to have a boss who would listen to well thought out statements and reduce them to "so in other words..." He would then replace the words of the speaker and reduce them to ignorant moronic statements that were insulting to the speaker and had nothing to do with the substance of the statement.

Funny thing, he was a drunken Irishman named Sullivan too.

#5 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2016-11-29 12:41 PM
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Sounds fake. Was believable at first but you jumped the shark with the name.

#8 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2016-11-29 04:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Yeah, Sully. You are the boss and I'm here to fluff-you-up with hop-to obedience to your every whim.

#7 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2016-11-29 12:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

As I already pointed out and you have already confirmed: You are here to weakly flail at others.

You're a low effort, low IQ troll. That you attempt to be a self righteous crybaby when called out on it is laughable. I'm going to call out your tired act any time you address it my way.

#9 | Posted by Sully at 2016-11-29 04:22 PM | Reply

Your "translation" still sucks.

#10 | Posted by squinch at 2016-11-29 08:00 PM | Reply

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What??? It turned into an Occupy event? Who would'a thunk it?

On the other hand...it's getting very cold up in the Dakota's. You can't have a drum circle when the drum heads are so cold they'll crack if you touch them.

It will be over soon. They'll all go back to Portland and San Fran.

#11 | Posted by madbomber at 2016-11-30 06:45 AM | Reply

Your "translation" still sucks.

#10 | Posted by squinch at 2016-11-29 08:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

So explain why he was angry and frustrated with non-natives but still felt the need to backtrack.

Or are you just here to suck?

#12 | Posted by Sully at 2016-11-30 09:47 AM | Reply

Like it or not, the safest way to move large amounts of liquids from one place to another is a pipeline. We need oil and that pipeline will be built if they have to use the bones of protesters as fill. Here are a few inconvenient truths that get ignored by the left. The pipeline is not on any reservation. They, the builders originally wanted to cross the res, but the right of way cost the tribe was asking was too high. So they moved the path of the pipeline. The pipeline is down stream of the res. Most of the Lakota people get their water from wells, very deep wells. Most of the protesters are not even Lakota, or even Indian. Most were involved in the Keystone protests years ago. This group is dominated by anti-capitalist leftist. Most of those are trust bums.

#13 | Posted by docnjo at 2016-11-30 01:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Like it or not, the safest way to move large amounts of liquids from one place to another is a pipeline. We need oil and that pipeline will be built if they have to use the bones of protesters as fill. Here are a few inconvenient truths that get ignored by the left. The pipeline is not on any reservation. They, the builders originally wanted to cross the res, but the right of way cost the tribe was asking was too high. So they moved the path of the pipeline. The pipeline is down stream of the res. Most of the Lakota people get their water from wells, very deep wells. Most of the protesters are not even Lakota, or even Indian. Most were involved in the Keystone protests years ago. This group is dominated by anti-capitalist leftist. Most of those are trust bums.

Posted by docnjo at 2016-11-30 01:26 PM | Reply

Tour ignorance is showing. It's actually rail that is safest NOT a pipeline.

thinkprogress.org

Many blogs, this one included, have pointed out that oil train disasters are on the rise. In 2014, oil trains in the U.S. spilled more often than any other recorded year. These accidents have happened as crude-by-rail shipments are soaring, increasing 40-fold since 2008. And compared to pipelines, rail incidents are occurring more frequently  --  according to U.S. Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA) data, rail incidents outnumbered pipelines two to one over the period of 2004 to 2012.

A lot of people have used this data to argue that transporting oil via pipelines is safer than rail. And that's true, if your idea of safety is defined by the frequency of accidents, regardless of how large the accidents are. If, however, you think massive releases of oil into the environment pose a greater risk to human health, than pipelines are the greater evil.

#14 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2016-11-30 01:34 PM | Reply

Many blogs, this one included, have pointed out that oil train disasters are on the rise. In 2014, oil trains in the U.S. spilled more often than any other recorded year. These accidents have happened as crude-by-rail shipments are soaring, increasing 40-fold since 2008. And compared to pipelines, rail incidents are occurring more frequently  --  according to U.S. Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA) data, rail incidents outnumbered pipelines two to one over the period of 2004 to 2012.

And now it's 2016.

#15 | Posted by REDIAL at 2016-11-30 02:29 PM | Reply

Its what they do.

#16 | Posted by fresno500 at 2016-11-30 03:09 PM | Reply

The following is a list of pipeline accidents in the United States in the 21st century.

The following is a list of pipeline accidents in the United States in 2016.

Pipeline accidents are commonly occurring.

There are routes available for the pipeline to run without endangering drinking water.

#17 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-11-30 03:33 PM | Reply

There are routes available for the pipeline to run without endangering drinking water.

Where?

#18 | Posted by et_al at 2016-11-30 04:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"A Nov. 3 post on Facebook by Jon Petronzio told would-be protesters to leave drugs and alcohol at home, warning: "This is not burning man or a festival. Do not bring your party at the expense of these people fighting for life and death."

Life and death? Really? What a moron.

#19 | Posted by Sniper at 2016-11-30 05:26 PM | Reply

Life and death? Really? What a moron.

Posted by Sniper at 2016-11-30 05:26 PM | Reply

You are obviously immune to higher learning. Polluted water kills. This pipeline will threaten the regions water supply.

#20 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2016-11-30 05:34 PM | Reply

This pipeline will threaten the regions water supply.

All pipelines threaten a water supply somewhere, somehow. Why is this one any different than the thousands of others?

#21 | Posted by et_al at 2016-11-30 05:54 PM | Reply

Headline fail. Should be:

"Liberals Wrecking Dakota Access Protest"

#22 | Posted by sawdust at 2016-11-30 07:02 PM | Reply

What they fail to tell you. About 80% of petroleum and gas moved in the US is by pipe line. There is over 500,000 miles of pipeline in the lower 48. The majority of spills are the oil field service lines, usually 4" low pressure lines that feed storage tanks. Most of the spills otherwise on the big transport lines 16"+ are caused by construction, backhoes, flooding, landslides or earthquakes. Lately there has been an upsurge of sabotage or spills caused by individuals trying to steal product. These line are substantial. Most laid after 1970 have walls at least a 1/2 inch thick of very good steel. They can stop a bullet or survive a forest fire. Considering they seldom go through a populated area, consider the alternative, rail. Rail goes through every urban area. Towns are built around rail. A tank car carries 500 barrels or 50,000 lbs of liquid weight and derailments seldom involve a single car. If you do not use pipelines, imagine several tank cars loaded with gasoline derailing in your town. It has happened. They never identified many of the bodies.

#23 | Posted by docnjo at 2016-11-30 11:19 PM | Reply

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