Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Monday, November 28, 2016

[I]f elections were based on economic output instead of population, the 2016 election would have been a blowout for [Hillary] Clinton. That's the takeaway from this graphic produced by the Metropolitan Policy Program at the Brookings Institution. Brookings researchers looked at county-level election returns and compared it with data on economic output for those same counties. It found that the counties Clinton won accounted for 64 percent of the nation's economic output, while [Donald] Trump's counties produced only 36 percent.

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Another way of looking at this ... is to compare the number of counties won in the 2000 and 2016 election. In 2000, Al Gore won 659 counties (there are a bit more than 3,000 counties in the United States). In 2016, Clinton won only 493 counties -- yet she’s on track to beat Trump by a wider margin in the popular vote than Gore's margin against Bush in 2000. ...

This chart, originally created by the Economic Innovation Group, shows that the 1990s were a time of healthy economic growth for the smallest counties. They actually added jobs at a faster rate than big urban centers. But in the most recent recovery, the pattern has been reversed. The largest counties have been adding jobs at the fastest rate in at least a generation. The smallest counties have been adding jobs only half as fast, and that constitutes the slowest job growth these areas have seen in decades.

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And if you are living in a county not enjoying economic benefits... surprise surprise... you are more likely to vote Trump.

#1 | Posted by moder8 at 2016-11-28 04:22 PM | Reply

Wow, so does that mean she won???? Oh wait no, but thanks for the swell story.

#2 | Posted by fishpaw at 2016-11-28 04:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

She won the popular vote by 2.2 million votes and counting. You Trumpers eventually stopped misusing the word mandate...

#3 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2016-11-28 04:28 PM | Reply

What does this have to do with the racists and sexists who voted for Trump"? Economics had nothing to do with Trump's victory.

#4 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2016-11-28 04:29 PM | Reply

She won the popular vote by 2.2 million votes and counting.

Trump wasn't trying to win the popular vote. He was playing by the rules.

#5 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2016-11-28 04:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Whine & Jeez Club still bleating.

#7 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-11-28 04:39 PM | Reply

Wait! I'm cornfused.

I thought that the takers all voted for Hillary (free stuff) Clinton, while the makers all voted for The Grope.

My bad.

#8 | Posted by contrecoup at 2016-11-28 04:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

7

no kidding.

#10 | Posted by eberly at 2016-11-28 04:49 PM | Reply

The educated also voted for Hillary. Big deal.

Trump made a bunch of wide promises. The rubes fell for it. Trump will accomplish nothing for them. But Trump will get richer. And that's all that really matters.

#11 | Posted by Sycophant at 2016-11-28 04:51 PM | Reply

If elections were based on one's affinity for gluten free vegan cuisine, Hillary would have won in a landslide.

#12 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2016-11-28 05:05 PM | Reply

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This is as meaningful as these studies (Politico, August 7, 2016):

1. The Klofstad Model: How Deep Are the Candidates' Voices?

Forget charisma and trustworthiness, a 2015 experiment by University of Miami professor Casey Klofstad found that American men and women are more likely to vote for the candidate with a deeper voice. Klofstad found support for this finding in a survey of 2012's U.S. House elections, where candidates with lower vocal ranges won a significantly larger share of votes than their squeakier competitors.

If the Klofstad model holds any predictive power in 2016, things don't look good for Hillary Clinton: Trump's voice registers at 215hz, would theoretically play well against a female opponent.

2.The Abe Lincoln Advantage: Who's Taller?

In his book Blink, Malcolm Gladwell reported that 14.5 percent of American men in the U.S. are 6 feet or taller, a towering 58 percent of Fortune 500 CEOs are at least 6 feet tall. For presidents, the story is the same. Several academic studies have shown that the taller presidential candidate has won about two-thirds of the time. Furthermore, presidents have, on average, been much taller than other men of their generation.

What this means for 2016: Both candidates are tall for their gender, but 6-foot-3 Trump still towers over Clinton, who was reportedly 5-foot-5 in 2008 but is now purported to stand at 5-foot-7. Trump has the clear advantage under this model and should win accordingly.

3. Rauch's Rule: Has the Candidate Been in Elected Office for 14 Years or Longer?

In 2003, Jonathan Rauch of the National Journal posited that a candidate doesn't get elected president if it took them more than 14 years to move from their first major office (representative, senator, governor, mayor, etc.) to the executive branch (president or vice president). Sure enough, this statement is true for every president since Teddy Roosevelt, with the exception of Lyndon B. Johnson. The American people, it turns out, wants experienced leaders, but not too experienced.

What this means for 2016: Clinton was first elected to the Senate in 2000, which means that she is just past her 14-year expiration date. However you measure it, Clinton isn't a political newcomer, which means that Trump would seem to have an edge on Clinton when it comes to the fresh factor.

4. Who's Hosting the Olympics?

From boycotts during the Cold War to this year's protests in Rio de Janeiro, the Olympic Games have always been political. Some even speculate that it has an effect on the victor of the U.S. presidential race: In every election since 1968 (other than 1988), if the country hosting the summer games has already hosted an Olympics in the past, the incumbent party will hold on to the White House. But if a country is hosting the Olympics for the first time, the incumbent party is out of luck. (Just ignore the 1988 exception.)

What this means for 2016: Unfortunately for Clinton, 2016 is not only the first time Brazil is hosting the Olympics, it is the first time any South American country is hosting. Therefore, it is safe to assume that, barring a 1988-like exception, Trump will win in a landslide.

#14 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2016-11-28 05:20 PM | Reply

#14 - one has to admit only Trump and his team know what is meaningful.... they proved that in style on Nov 8th.

#15 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2016-11-28 05:24 PM | Reply

13

no. it's sad you can't see that.

#16 | Posted by eberly at 2016-11-28 05:37 PM | Reply

The irony is that this study shows the "Takers" that Trump hates are voting for him....hook, line and sinker.

#17 | Posted by Sycophant at 2016-11-28 05:49 PM | Reply

Seems the left likes money... She won in places that produces the most economic output!!! I'm willing to bet that Trump won in the areas that produce the most of basic foodstuffs, cattle, corn, wheat... who needs that stuff right?

what's next? Hillary has 85% of the left handed vote?

The rules of the game they all played by were known, get over it.

#18 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2016-11-28 06:13 PM | Reply

no. it's sad you can't see that.

#16 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2016-11-28 05:37 PM | FLAG:

When the RW is ready to talk, they can go ahead. So far I haven't seen a peep. Since you are closer to the middle than many, feel free.

#19 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2016-11-28 06:17 PM | Reply

Bruce, I'm talking about the crybaby thread and the article its referencing.

Keep on marginalizing folks that voted for Trump.

Shaming them before the election didn't work....shaming them now won't work either.

#20 | Posted by eberly at 2016-11-28 06:19 PM | Reply

I misunderstood Eberly.

"Keep on marginalizing folks that voted for Trump."

I would urge you to read the comments coming from the RW on this site and rethink who is doing the marginalizing. As far as I could tell, there were few "Rhodamites" as you call them. Mostly there are people who are concerned about policy and equality. Most don't think it right to see Don take advantage of the people who voted for him. The Trump voters want to play the victim and contrarians. The election is won, go on and MAGA.

#21 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2016-11-28 07:39 PM | Reply

This chart, originally created by the Economic Innovation Group, shows that the 1990s were a time of healthy economic growth for the smallest counties. They actually added jobs at a faster rate than big urban centers. But in the most recent recovery, the pattern has been reversed. The largest counties have been adding jobs at the fastest rate in at least a generation. The smallest counties have been adding jobs only half as fast, and that constitutes the slowest job growth these areas have seen in decades.

That is because there is a return to Urban centers and cities - at least in the MidWest by young people who don't remember White Flight and are eager for access to what a city offers. Rebuilding places like Detroit, Grand Rapids and Saginaw in Michigan. Cleveland is an example in Ohio. Pittsburgh PA is another example. Downtowns are happening.

#22 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2016-11-28 08:08 PM | Reply

This story shows that most the growth, production and economic ingenuity are coming from the blue half of America. If you divide the country into makers and takers, the biggest takers are red America. You Trumpers need to get your asses in gear. We're leaving you slowpokes behind. Your kids are going to leave the farm and live in the blue counties, where the jobs and beer are better.

#23 | Posted by rcade at 2016-11-28 08:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Seems the left likes money... She won in places that produces the most economic output!!! I'm willing to bet that Trump won in the areas that produce the most of basic foodstuffs, cattle, corn, wheat... who needs that stuff right?

#18 | POSTED BY KWRX25 AT 2016-11-28 06:13 PM | REPLY|FLAG: EYE ROLL

Look a little closer at the map... those breadbasket republicl*wns are also the recipients of the most government subsidies. Feel free to do the research. They are dependent on the places that produce the most economic output.

Keep on marginalizing folks that voted for Trump.
Shaming them before the election didn't work....shaming them now won't work either.

#20 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2016-11-28 06:19 PM | REPLY |FLAG: BOOHOO

We know how your team works... I recall the pigs in the purple bandaids and their swiftboating hypocrisy. The world saw them mocking the suffering in Katrina insisting that it was their fault for not picking themselves up by the bootstraps... meanwhile it all waaaaaaaaa them Mexicans are taking all our jobs. They (you) marginalize themselves.

Good luck with that wall thingie.

#24 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2016-11-28 08:51 PM | Reply

This article is a steaming load. The blue states produce nothing but intellectual property, like corporate logos. They would starve without massive importation of food and energy from the deplorable "fly over" states. Los Angeles would be a ghost town without water from the California Water Project, which diverts water from rural counties and keeps us alive.

#25 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-28 09:23 PM | Reply

We have a ton of morons in Cali. People who sip pumpkin-spice lattes in Starbucks while listening to NPR on their slave-labor produced iphones, and as a result, think they are political sages. They would die in a few weeks without the imports from red counties.

#26 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-28 09:41 PM | Reply

This story shows that most the growth, production and economic ingenuity are coming from the blue half of America. If you divide the country into makers and takers, the biggest takers are red America. You Trumpers need to get your asses in gear. We're leaving you slowpokes behind. Your kids are going to leave the farm and live in the blue counties, where the jobs and beer are better.

#23 | Posted by rcade at 2016-11-28 08:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

We may be takers but we feed the masses. This is exactly why Hillary lost. That elitist attitude.

#27 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2016-11-28 09:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"We know how your team works"

You probably imagine you are on a team.

I'm not on any political team.

I wasted enough enough words on you, boy.

#29 | Posted by eberly at 2016-11-28 10:19 PM | Reply

The butt hurt is just steaming here.

The left pretends to care about the unproductive members is society and then when they refuse to vote for a democrat, they become losers, slackers, takers, etc

Remember, you'll be kissing those folks butts again in less than 4 years.

#30 | Posted by eberly at 2016-11-28 10:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You know, if it frustrates you to see bottom dwellers vote against their self interest then maybe you should run a better candidate.

Or don't.......

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2016-11-28 10:32 PM | Reply

maybe you should run a better candidate.
Or don't.......
#31 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2016-11-28 10:32 PM

How dare you suggest there was anything the Dems or Hillary could have done better. Clearly she ran a brilliant campaign, when I say this, please ignore every other level of government where her soul sucking leadership helped drag the Dems down.

#32 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2016-11-28 10:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

where the jobs and beer are better.
#23 | Posted by rcade

Do you even understand what ingredients are used to make beer?

#33 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2016-11-28 10:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The deplorable heartland of America ought to cut off food and energy exports to the bi-coastal elites for a few weeks or months. The pretentious moralists of Hamilton; the Broadway baristas can perform their plays without lights. Could be a whole new art form: Theatre in the Black.

#34 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-28 11:02 PM | Reply

"Do you even understand what ingredients are used to make beer?"

So...your country won't have exports? You're gonna grow the barley, but not sell it? Good luck with that economic model.

Oh, wait...you don't believe in economic models, right?

#35 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-11-28 11:11 PM | Reply

What is barley?

Sincerely,

New York City.

#36 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-28 11:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

Beer?
IIRC, we could potentially use the cobbdouglas production function to model this scenario 🍺

#37 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2016-11-28 11:21 PM | Reply

There is probably a type of gravity model effect attracting libs to California (and similar lefty spots), and rightleaners to Texas (and similar conservativey spots)

'spitballin ideas before turning in for the night.

I posted a Slate article awhile ago which illustrated the depths of how interconnected and interdependent the United States of America are, sort of negating the "significance" of this Brookings Inst finding.

#38 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2016-11-28 11:29 PM | Reply

"What is barley?"

I guess we'll drink wine instead.

Meanwhile, no TV for you.

#39 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-11-28 11:29 PM | Reply

So basically those who had a job and did not care about those that didn't voter for Hillary/

#40 | Posted by tmaster at 2016-11-28 11:33 PM | Reply

Is barley a gluten?

Sincerely,
Brooklyn hipsters

#41 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2016-11-28 11:43 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

-So basically those who had a job and did not care about those that didn't voter for Hillary/

The cast of Hamilton? Baristas by day, snotty moralists by night.

#42 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-28 11:48 PM | Reply

"The cast of Hamilton? Baristas by day, snotty moralists by night."

Doubtful, at around $1900/wk.

newmusicaltheatre.com

#43 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-11-28 11:53 PM | Reply

--$1900/wk.

The audience should sue for a refund.

We can all count on Hollywood Dan to put a price on everything.

#44 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-29 12:02 AM | Reply

"The audience should sue for a refund."

Why, because you're jealous?

"We can all count on Hollywood Dan to put a price on everything."

And we can all count on you to know the value of nothing.

#45 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-11-29 12:14 AM | Reply

Is barley a gluten?

Sincerely, Brooklyn hipsters Donald Trump from Brooklyn

#46 | Posted by REDIAL at 2016-11-29 12:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Baristas by day, snotty moralists by night.

What do you do during the day?

#47 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-29 12:25 AM | Reply

The virtues of blue counties: Democrats Run The Highest Crime Cities in America

#48 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2016-11-29 12:37 AM | Reply

Democrats also run the lowest crime cities in America:

www.areavibes.com

#49 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-11-29 01:05 AM | Reply

-And we can all count on you to know the value of nothing.

Hollywood stage actors/hacks/hams/ would become extinct in a few weeks without the subsidized water provided by Cali's red counties.

#50 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-29 01:07 AM | Reply

"Hollywood stage actors/hacks/hams/ would become extinct in a few weeks without the subsidized water provided by Cali's red counties."

And Cali's red counties would go broke in even less time if LA stopped buying their wares. Have you got an actual point?

#51 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-11-29 01:11 AM | Reply

-And Cali's red counties would go broke in even less time if LA stopped buying their wares. Have you got an actual point?

Hilarious. One day of blackouts and LA would be on it knees. 2 days without water and it would be the night of the living dead.

#52 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-29 01:23 AM | Reply

Maybe. But since that's not going to happen, I guess we're back to the Hill counties producing the vast majority of GDP.

BTW, I'm curious. You obviously haven't seen Hamilton. Why do you believe "The audience should sue for a refund"...?

#53 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-11-29 01:36 AM | Reply

-You obviously haven't seen Hamilton

Who has? Hard to imagine a greater worst of money.

#54 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-29 01:54 AM | Reply

"Who has?"

I haven't. But every friend who has was blown away.

"Hard to imagine a greater worst of money."

Again...why? Why should the audience sue for a refund?

#55 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-11-29 01:56 AM | Reply

It's really amazing that actors, who live in a world of make-believe, think their political opinions should be taken seriously.

#56 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-29 02:16 AM | Reply

Like Reagan?

#57 | Posted by squinch at 2016-11-29 04:09 AM | Reply

Clearly she ran a brilliant campaign, when I say this, please ignore every other level of government where her soul sucking leadership helped drag the Dems down.

What Clinton failed to do in the later stages of the campaign was to talk about what she would do for the people. Near the end, she spent way to much time bad mouthing Trump and trying to make him appear to be unacceptable.

Clinton has to much knowledge of how the federal government works and embraced her limitations. Trump had little to no knowledge of how the system worked and therefore thought he had no limitations. As a result, Trump could make all sorts of promises and his supporters, in desperate need of hope, elected him. They will be disappointed and republicans had better get ready for the backlash if/when he doesn't deliver.

The best political strategy for dems is to see to it that Trump doesn't deliver. However, they have to do it in such a way as to make it appear that they are working in the best interests of the middle class and working poor.

#58 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2016-11-29 07:10 AM | Reply

..and in a study I just invented, had the election been based on agricultural production, Trump would have won in a landslide. [...]

#59 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2016-11-29 08:22 AM | Reply

Is barley a gluten?
Sincerely,
Brooklyn hipsters

#41 | POSTED BY GONOLES92 AT 2016-11-28 11:43 PM | FLAG:

Yes, it does. Gluten-free beer has to be made 1 of 2 ways. You either brew with sorghum which is gluten free, or you use an additive called ClarityFerm that creates not a true gluten-free product, but a gluten-reduced product that allows any beer to be enjoyed by people suffering from celiac disease and those with damaged gut bacteria from prescribed antibiotics.

#60 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2016-11-29 08:32 AM | Reply

This is exactly why Hillary lost. That elitist attitude.

Elections are about more than hurt fee-fees. Stop fooling yourself into thinking that if Democrats talked nice about rural bumpkins all the time they'd vote for us. They vote on issues and their own perceived self-interest the same as anybody else. The trouble is that they think Republicans like Trump will take care of them, but they usually only care about the 1%.

#61 | Posted by rcade at 2016-11-29 08:56 AM | Reply

Talking nice to groups of voters you want to vote for you is common sense. It's called "pandering."

#62 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2016-11-29 09:41 AM | Reply

All those bankers and evil corporations in her counties!

#63 | Posted by Federalist at 2016-11-29 09:46 AM | Reply

This story shows that most the growth, production and economic ingenuity are coming from the blue half of America. If you divide the country into makers and takers, the biggest takers are red America. You Trumpers need to get your asses in gear. We're leaving you slowpokes behind. Your kids are going to leave the farm and live in the blue counties, where the jobs and beer are better.

#23 | POSTED BY RCADE

Are 100% of the people in a blue county Dem voters?

#64 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-29 09:48 AM | Reply

Good news for Clinton idolaters. What a great country. Stop crying. Organize!

"Hillary Clinton rumored to be considering another go at the White House in 2020"

#65 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-29 09:53 AM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

Good news for Clinton idolaters. What a great country. Stop crying. Organize!

"Hillary Clinton rumored to be considering another go at the White House in 2020"

#65 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-29 09:53 AM
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Hilarious.

#66 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2016-11-29 09:58 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

The deplorable heartland of America ought to cut off food and energy exports to the bi-coastal elites for a few weeks or months. The pretentious moralists of Hamilton; the Broadway baristas can perform their plays without lights. Could be a whole new art form: Theatre in the Black.

#34 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

What the hell are you talking about? The heartland is owned mostly by companies on the coasts. Do you know anything about farming?

#67 | Posted by Sycophant at 2016-11-29 10:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-What the hell are you talking about?

What are you talking about? This isn't a partisan issue. Cities have always been resource importers. They couldn't exist without massive importation of resources from the hinterlands. Ancient Rome built aqueducts and roads to keep Rome alive.

#68 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-29 10:35 AM | Reply

Well do you expect guys like this to actually have a job?

some text

#69 | Posted by 726 at 2016-11-29 11:07 AM | Reply

#69 | Posted by 726
NBA, NFL, MMA or on Inked!

#70 | Posted by Federalist at 2016-11-29 11:33 AM | Reply

"It's really amazing that actors, who live in a world of make-believe, think their political opinions should be taken seriously."

The government certainly takes them seriously when it's tax time.

And pray tell...which occupations are worthy of having opinions?

#71 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-11-29 12:19 PM | Reply

Stop fooling yourself into thinking that if Democrats talked nice about rural bumpkins all the time they'd vote for us.

Hello everyone, thank you for allowing me to stop in on this Hip-hop radio station listened to by a predominantly young black audience. I would like to take this time to acknowledge that I carry around hot sauce in my pursue, and in warm summer months enjoy a hearty picnic of fried chicken and watermelon.

Yours truly,
Hillary D. Clinton

#72 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2016-11-29 12:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Wall Street's economic output is actually very close to zero.

#73 | Posted by Sully at 2016-11-29 12:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

-What the hell are you talking about?
What are you talking about? This isn't a partisan issue. Cities have always been resource importers. They couldn't exist without massive importation of resources from the hinterlands. Ancient Rome built aqueducts and roads to keep Rome alive.

#68 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

And this is typical Republican strategy. You ignore what you said previously and start whining about something else.

"The deplorable heartland of America ought to cut off food and energy exports to the bi-coastal elites for a few weeks or months." POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

As I said, the farmland is owned mainly by commercial farming conglomerates on the coasts. YOU made this a partisan issue.

#74 | Posted by Sycophant at 2016-11-29 01:27 PM | Reply

Not to mention, he's ignoring agricultural in California providing for the nation.

#75 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-11-29 01:31 PM | Reply

-Wall Street's economic output is actually very close to zero.

A blackout away from resources supplied by deplorables.

#76 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-29 01:31 PM | Reply

YOU made this a partisan issue.
Posted by Sycophant at 2016-11-29 01:27 PM
The whole purpose of the thread was to make it a "partisan issue."

#77 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2016-11-29 02:03 PM | Reply

Kansas produces food, New York produces blowhard SJWs.

#78 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-29 02:07 PM | Reply

-As I said, the farmland is owned mainly by commercial farming conglomerates on the coasts

what?

#79 | Posted by eberly at 2016-11-29 02:12 PM | Reply

Hatebreed?

Hatebreed is in fact not a Jew-hating, racist, Nazi, hate-filled act. Their hatred is more geared towards people in your everyday life, like ex-girlfriends, local politicians and law enforcement, and other meanies. Nowhere in the band's history have they ever called for racial cleansing.
Obviously, it's preferable to be an equal-opportunity hater than the type of hater that focuses exclusively on religious and ethnic minorities. Still, there's something ironic about excusing a band's reputation by explaining that they hate everybody just the same.

www.yahoo.com

#80 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2016-11-29 02:14 PM | Reply

beef2live.com

food production by state.

#81 | Posted by eberly at 2016-11-29 02:42 PM | Reply

"This is exactly why Hillary lost. That elitist attitude."

They are NOT going to get it. They just keep doubling down on the same ol' policies by moving farther and farther left. With Geniuses like Governor Moonbeam, how can they lose...LOLOL

www.seattletimes.com

And with officials that makes decisions like THIS, How can the Democratic Party EVER lose another election???...LOLOL

dailysignal.com

And they WONDER why they lose. It HAS to be Russian interference and hacked computers...RIGHT! And they think Keith Ellison will save their azzes as the DNC...RIGHT! LOLOL

#82 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2016-11-29 02:49 PM | Reply

Hey rcade, how much do those counties contribute to the crime rates?

#83 | Posted by DavetheWave at 2016-11-29 06:07 PM | Reply

#83 | POSTED BY DAVETHEWAVE AT 2016-11-29 06:07 PM | FLAG: Also, where does the food come from in those counties that the residents consume? We can actually do without many products and services, but the breadbasket' in flyover country is paramount.

#84 | Posted by MSgt at 2016-11-30 02:06 AM | Reply

Kansas produces food, New York produces blowhard SJWs.

#78 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2016-11-29 02:07 PM | REPLY

Like Trump?

#85 | Posted by Alaskan_Guy at 2016-11-30 05:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's really amazing that actors, who live in a world of make-believe, think their political opinions should be taken seriously.
#56 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Like the TV star you just elected POTUS?

#86 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2016-11-30 05:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Don't insult Trump around Nullifidian.

He doesn't abide any anti Trumpisims.

#87 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-11-30 05:48 AM | Reply

hey nullifidian...

"you're fired!"

#88 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2016-11-30 06:29 AM | Reply

If we are going to play this game lets break it down by home owners then. If only people who owned land could vote I am sure Trump would have won in a landslide. For those who think that's ridicules I would say this article is as well.

#89 | Posted by WTFIGO at 2016-11-30 01:24 PM | Reply

Hey rcade, how much do those counties contribute to the crime rates?

#83 | POSTED BY DAVETHEWAVE

Knowledge bomb: Cities have lower crime per capita and are safer to live in. Boom.
science.time.com

#90 | Posted by Sycophant at 2016-11-30 02:15 PM | Reply

#83 | POSTED BY DAVETHEWAVE AT 2016-11-29 06:07 PM | FLAG: Also, where does the food come from in those counties that the residents consume? We can actually do without many products and services, but the breadbasket' in flyover country is paramount.

#84 | POSTED BY MSGT

Actually the majority of farm land, as indicated above, is owned by large corporations based on the coasts...

#91 | Posted by Sycophant at 2016-11-30 02:16 PM | Reply

If we are going to play this game lets break it down by home owners then. If only people who owned land could vote I am sure Trump would have won in a landslide. For those who think that's ridicules I would say this article is as well.

#89 | POSTED BY WTFIGO

Another Conservative who misses the good old days when only White Protestant Land-Owning Men could vote.

#92 | Posted by Sycophant at 2016-11-30 02:17 PM | Reply

I'm waiting for some one of our ------------ to make a case that some weight of brussels sprouts is equivalent in value to, for example, a major release of Oracle.

#93 | Posted by contrecoup at 2016-11-30 03:18 PM | Reply

91

Where is that indicated?

#94 | Posted by eberly at 2016-11-30 05:13 PM | Reply

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