Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Saturday, November 26, 2016

THE WASHINGTON POST ON THURSDAY NIGHT promoted the claims of a new, shadowy organization that smears dozens of U.S. news sites that are critical of U.S. foreign policy as being "routine peddlers of Russian propaganda." The article by reporter Craig Timberg – headlined "Russian propaganda effort helped spread ‘fake news' during election, experts say" – cites a report by a new, anonymous website calling itself "PropOrNot," which claims that millions of Americans have been deceived this year in a massive Russian "misinformation campaign."

The group's list of Russian disinformation outlets includes WikiLeaks and the Drudge Report, as well as Clinton-critical left-wing websites such as Truthout, Black Agenda Report, Truthdig and Naked Capitalism, as well as libertarian venues such as Antiwar.com and the Ron Paul Institute.




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In casting the group behind this website as "experts," the Post described PropOrNot simply as "a nonpartisan collection of researchers with foreign policy, military and technology backgrounds." Not one individual at the organization is named. The executive director is quoted, but only on the condition of anonymity, which the Post said it was providing the group "to avoid being targeted by Russia's legions of skilled hackers."

In other words, the individuals behind this newly created group are publicly branding journalists and news outlets as tools of Russian propaganda – even calling on the FBI to investigate them for espionage – while cowardly hiding their own identities. The group promoted by the Post thus embodies the toxic essence of Joseph McCarthy but without the courage to attach their names to their blacklist. Echoing the Wisconsin Senator, the group refers to its lengthy collection of sites spouting Russian propaganda as "The List."


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haha..Truthdig is a commie rag now. and on #TheList. lol

Neoliberals will define which Soros favored outlets are disseminating the approved content.

#1 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2016-11-26 04:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

That's the WaPo I've come to know and love.

#2 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2016-11-26 04:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

McCarthy was complainant, investigator, and judge.
these guys are only complainant. whistle blower.
it's up to an independent body, such as the FBI, which they have requested.


#3 | Posted by ichiro at 2016-11-26 05:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Now this is to humorous, the worst media organization for peddling propaganda is trying to be insightful of other organizations peddling the same crap. LOL!

#4 | Posted by Crassus at 2016-11-26 11:46 PM | Reply

OK we had a major Dem candidate threatening war with Russia and now a neoliberal newspaper Wapo coming out with a black list.

Its like everything old is new again.

#5 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2016-11-27 12:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Funny how the worm turns.

#6 | Posted by coyote at 2016-11-27 09:15 AM | Reply

It's funny that people care who publishes PropOrNot. For the past year, stories from fake news sites have spread all over social media promoting Trump and trashing Hillary. They were posted here often by Trump supporters.

I was one of the only people who looked into who published those stories. There was a whole network of bogus news sites like Baltimore Gazette (which shows up on PropOrNot's list), all of which pretended to be real local papers in American cities and were published with hidden WHOIS information out of an Arizona IP address.

But now that somebody is casting light on this Russia-influenced disinformation campaign, suddenly people care about where information is coming from.

#7 | Posted by rcade at 2016-11-27 10:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

the tide is turning... WAPO AND NYT ON SHORT NOTICE.

#8 | Posted by AuntieSocial at 2016-11-27 11:30 AM | Reply

#5 | Posted by PunchyPossum

Who threatened war with Russia?

#9 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2016-11-27 01:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#8 | Posted by AuntieSocial

Soooo you support fake news and foreign propaganda?

#10 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2016-11-27 06:11 PM | Reply



Who owns the media?

The Rothschilds.

Who was kicked out of Russia?

The Rothschilds.

Who is butthurt over this?

The Rothschilds.

Who is spreading false info?

The Rothschilds.

#11 | Posted by coyote at 2016-11-27 08:28 PM | Reply

Who is spreading an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory?


#12 | Posted by rcade at 2016-11-27 09:34 PM | Reply

9 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2016-11-27 0

[...] hillary said she wanted a war with Russia in a number of different ways the most famous way she said it was when she said she wanted a no fly zone in Syria, which by the way she even admitted would kill a huge amount of Syrians citizens.

"Retired senior US military pilots are increasingly alarmed that Hillary Clinton's proposal for "no-fly zones" in Syria could lead to a military confrontation with Russia that could escalate to levels that were previously unthinkable in the post-cold war world."

The proposal of no-fly zones has been fiercely debated in Washington for the past five years, but has never attracted significant enthusiasm from the military because of the risk to pilots from Syrian air defenses and the presence of Russian warplanes.

Many in US national security circles consider the risk of an aerial confrontation with the Russians to be severe.

Martin Dempsey, then the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, said that even a limited safe zone would cost over $1bn a month and require substantial air assets and ground troops to maintain. His successor, Joseph Dunford, told the Senate last month that a no-fly zone would "require us to go to war against Syria and Russia"


#15 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2016-11-28 12:52 AM | Reply

By overplaying the influence of Russia's disinformation campaign, the report also plays directly into the hands of the Russian propagandists that it hopes to combat. "Think about RT and Sputnik's goals, how they report their success to Putin," Vasily Gatov, a Russian media analyst and a visiting fellow at the University of Southern California's Annenberg School for Communication and Journalism, told me. "Their success is that they have penetrated their agenda, that they have become an issue for the West. And this is exactly what happened."

#17 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2016-12-04 01:56 PM | Reply

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