Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Wednesday, November 23, 2016

Donald Trump is poised to eliminate all climate change research conducted by Nasa, his senior adviser on issues relating to the space agency has said. Nasa's Earth science division is set to be stripped of funding in favor of exploration of deep space, with the president-elect having set a goal during the campaign to explore the entire solar system by the end of the century. This would mean the elimination of Nasa's world-renowned research into temperature, ice, clouds and other climate phenomena. Nasa's network of satellites provide a wealth of information on climate change, with the Earth science division's budget set to grow to $2 billion next year.

Advertisement

Advertisement

Liberal Blog Advertising Network

More

Comments

Admin's note: Participants in this discussion must follow the site's moderation policy. Profanity will be filtered. Abusive conduct is not allowed.

Don't get the result you want? Eliminate the report!

That's the GOP for you.

Don't forget that Mike Pence thinks smoking doesn't cause cancer.

#1 | Posted by Sycophant at 2016-11-23 10:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Dark ages begin again. Flat Earth society wins. Johnson and Stein voters can be proud of their idiotic votes cuz they are as stupid as the Trump voters. Trust me, I will keep reminding you fools as the depth of the disaster you helped create grows.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2016-11-23 11:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dark ages begin again. Flat Earth society wins. Johnson and Stein voters can be proud of their idiotic votes cuz they are as stupid as the Trump voters. Trust me, I will keep reminding you fools as the depth of the disaster you helped create grows.

Posted by danni at 2016-11-23 11:01 AM | Reply

Did you know Florida is flatter than Kansas???

#3 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2016-11-23 11:09 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trust me, I will keep reminding you fools as the depth of the disaster you helped create grows.

#2 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2016-11-23 11:01 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

LOL

Do you ever tire of repeating the same drivel over and over again? You got Trump because you supported a putrid candidate that could relied on California and New York to install her as their president. well that and she thought she could give up independents in return for some righties that wouldn't vote Trump.

The country watched the DNC steal the nomination from Sanders because "Hillary is the only one who can beat Trump".. what a joke.

#4 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2016-11-23 11:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The country watched the DNC steal the nomination from Sanders because "Hillary is the only one who can beat Trump".. what a joke."

Don't worry Laura, Jill Stein will protect you from Trump.

#5 | Posted by danni at 2016-11-23 11:17 AM | Reply

"Do you ever tire of repeating the same drivel over and over again?"

In a word no. Those who helped Trump win need to be reminded over and over so they will learn their lesson. You will learn, Donald Trump will convince you that when confronted with a monster you don't vote third party. The country needed all hands on deck but too many of our hands were more interested in symbolic votes against the DNC instead of focusing on the common enemy. I don't need to convince you, Donald Trump will.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2016-11-23 11:21 AM | Reply

You got Trump because you supported a putrid candidate

#4 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2016-11-23 11:15 AM | Reply

We got Trump because Trump's voters supported a putrid candidate. Now, they have their reasons for that. Those they can consciously explain they may be ashamed of.

Donald Trump was always going to be a vandal. What he's already doing to NASA is just a bit of confirmation. The people who voted for him are victims, silly sheep. They will be shorn, and many eaten.

Will the first Consitutional crisis Trump provokes come as early as January, over his hidden finances and international conflicts of interest? Probably.

I understand some of why Trump voters thought they just had to vote for the man. But we can't have an actual crook in the White House. The next several months will be Donald's last chance to reform.

He won't use that time. He sees nothing wrong with himself or anything he does.

#7 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-23 11:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

More fear mongering from the losers. Ironic coming from the "I gotta pen and a phone" President supporters.....

Let me know when he goes against constitutional congressional appropriations, as opposed to "poising". I won't support Trumps descision, until then please continue your whining.

#8 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2016-11-23 11:26 AM | Reply

"Do you ever tire of repeating the same drivel over and over again?"

***

In a word no.

#6 | Posted by danni

lol

#10 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-23 11:32 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

And before any of you knuckleheads post .... "But Obama used less Executive Orders than ...."

Obama issues 'executive orders by another name'
www.usatoday.com

#11 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2016-11-23 11:33 AM | Reply

Advertisement

Advertisement

More fear mongering from the losers.

#8 | Posted by AndreaMackris at

If you aren't worried about Trump, then you are stupid.

Prove to me that Donald's business ties with Russia won't affect American foreign policy.

Can't, can you? See what I mean? Stupid.

#12 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-23 11:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If you aren't worried about Trump, then you are stupid.

Prove to me that Donald's business ties with Russia won't affect American foreign policy.

Can't, can you? See what I mean? Stupid.

Posted by Zed at 2016-11-23 11:37 AM | Reply

Or some of us don't live with our heads tween our legs in utter fright of a boogeyman.

#13 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2016-11-23 11:40 AM | Reply

HRC lost because HRC could not garner the trust of enough Americans. End of story.

#9 | POSTED BY MODER8

Not in swing states anyway.

It's interesting that the Florida Hilbots seem some of the most irate. I guess they should have worked harder to win Florida.

#15 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2016-11-23 11:45 AM | Reply

"More fear mongering from the losers. Ironic coming from the "I gotta pen and a phone" President supporters....."

Fear mongering? Read the headline for the article the thread is based on. How stupid.

"Or some of us don't live with our heads tween our legs in utter fright of a boogeyman."

Chickens don't fear either right up to the moment their head is removed from their body. Bragging about being dumb? We now have the President I warned you about.

#16 | Posted by danni at 2016-11-23 11:46 AM | Reply

"And before any of you knuckleheads post .... "But Obama used less Executive Orders than ...."

You will miss him very soon, make fun while you can. You'll be denying you voted for Trump soon enough.

#17 | Posted by danni at 2016-11-23 11:47 AM | Reply

"Or some of us don't live with our heads tween our legs in utter fright of a boogeyman.
#13 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR"

True. Some are like the frog sitting in a pot of water on the stove, with no clue what awaits. *Ribbit*

#18 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2016-11-23 11:49 AM | Reply

We now have the President I warned you about.

#16 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2016-11-23 11:46 AM | FLAG:

Thats funny. Although, I predicted Hillary would win, many right here told you that Trump would beat Hillary. You were warned that Hillary couldn't swing it due to the lack of trust, the leaks and what she and the DVC did to Sanders.

You're no Nostradamus.

#19 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2016-11-23 11:52 AM | Reply

with no clue what awaits. *Ribbit*

Posted by mOntecOre at 2016-11-23 11:49 AM | Reply

That's why the future is so unpredictable. No one knows what tomorrow will bring.

#20 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2016-11-23 11:53 AM | Reply

Record Crushing Fraud From NOAA And NASA Ahead Of Paris: realclimatescience.com

Quite possible NAWA is giving obama what he wants to hear.

#21 | Posted by MSgt at 2016-11-23 12:10 PM | Reply

"I guess they should have worked harder to win Florida."

Twinpac figured she deserved the last few weeks off.

#22 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2016-11-23 12:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#22

I recall her even saying as much.

#23 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2016-11-23 12:18 PM | Reply

NASA shouldn't be involved in climate change research. NASA needs to focus on their Mars rocket.

Weather & climate are the job of the NWS, they get a billion dollars a year to do nothing but study it.

#24 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2016-11-23 12:21 PM | Reply

#22

Yep, here it is...

www.drudge.com

#25 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2016-11-23 12:23 PM | Reply

#21 - Just to have a balanced discussion:

www.quora.com

#26 | Posted by Foreigner at 2016-11-23 12:30 PM | Reply

"Prove to me that Donald's business ties with Russia won't affect American foreign policy
Can't, can you? See what I mean? Stupid"

Wow, the wackiness is hitting new levels. I've got one. Prove to me that Obama doesn't have a Muslim prayer rug that he occasionally uses.

Can't can you? See how that works.

The meltdown on the far left is actually embarrassing. I think even the Post and NY Times are starting to pull it back some after realizing how far out of touch they were.

The relentless obsession with Trump is only going to hurt the Democratic Party and DNC controlled media. People are already numb to it, and just see constant piling on. When something of substance does actually rear its head, nobody is going to listen. Trump will develop carte blanche just based on the idiotic obsession of the left.

#27 | Posted by CaseyJones at 2016-11-23 12:31 PM | Reply

"NASA shouldn't be involved in climate change research. NASA needs to focus on their Mars rocket. "

NASA studies climate change because it is directly related to terraforming other planets in general, and Mars in particular. A friend of mine is a planetary exobiologist for NASA. What does he do? He studies root systems in Yellowstone and other geothermal regions around the world to better understand how plants survive in extreme conditions. It's all completely relevant to NASA's mission.

#28 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2016-11-23 12:34 PM | Reply

"NASA needs to focus on their Mars rocket."

Why? We have no real need to travel to Mars, we do sort of have a vested interest in climate change here on Earth though. Much of the science involved is done via satellites which involves NASA no matter how you cut it.

#29 | Posted by danni at 2016-11-23 12:37 PM | Reply

Shhhh Hagbard, facts hurt the marks' heads

#30 | Posted by truthhurts at 2016-11-23 12:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

18 months of record high temperatures

happy extinction idiots

#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2016-11-23 12:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why? We have no real need to travel to Mars, we do sort of have a vested interest in climate change here on Earth though. Much of the science involved is done via satellites which involves NASA no matter how you cut it.

#29 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2016-11-23 12:37 PM | FLAG:

We have to travel to Mars. Earth has an expiration date. Climate Change research is becoming like the military. Too many agencies are all trying to get in on the action. Consolidating research to the actual climate agency we have makes sense.

#32 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2016-11-23 12:55 PM | Reply

It's all completely relevant to NASA's mission.

#28 | POSTED BY HAGBARD_CELINE AT 2016-11-23 12:34 PM | FLAG:

That will be massively useful knowledge, in a couple hundred years. Right now we need a basic transportation system that can actually put people on Mars, and incoming asteroid detection above all else.

#33 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2016-11-23 12:57 PM | Reply

Myron Ebell is Trump's head of transition of the EPA.
He's a massive propagandist for Tobacco, the NFL (what concussion?) and now for the and Global warming denier movement. He is anti-Science through and through.
www.businessinsider.com

Happy extinction idiots, indeed.

#34 | Posted by YAV at 2016-11-23 12:59 PM | Reply

Trump to Scrap Nasa's Climate Change Research

IGNORANCE 2016!

Because if we ignore something, then it can't hurt us!

#35 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-11-23 01:08 PM | Reply

Right now we need a basic transportation system that can actually put people on Mars, and incoming asteroid detection above all else.

#33 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Right now we need to keep earth habitable.

Putting humans on mars is a pointless waste of money.

It's a LOT cheaper to fix our planet than to move to another one.

#36 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-11-23 01:10 PM | Reply

"That will be massively useful knowledge, in a couple hundred years."

And the more data we compile for that objective the better, wouldn't you agree?

#37 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2016-11-23 01:21 PM | Reply

Right now we need to keep earth habitable.
Putting humans on mars is a pointless waste of money.
It's a LOT cheaper to fix our planet than to move to another one.

#36 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2016-11-23 01:10 PM | REPLY

Carbon removal from the atmosphere is being done by subsidized environmental companies. You do not need NASA to spend a billion dollars, 7.5% of it's budget on it, when there's already another $7.7 billion being spent by other government agencies, all studying climate change. That's pentagon style accounting and a recipe for mass inefficiency. They've got an $18 billion rocket system to finish. They need all of their budget to fly it.

and this planet has an expiration date. The landscape is defined by cataclysm after cataclysm. If we don't spread out through space, we go extinct. Can't ride this rock forever, even if all of mankind's effects on the environment ceased right this moment. Yellowstone will still blow up eventually. The Urals were hit by a meteorite with the force of an atomic bomb in just 2013.

#38 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2016-11-23 01:24 PM | Reply

And the more data we compile for that objective the better, wouldn't you agree?

#37 | POSTED BY HAGBARD_CELINE AT 2016-11-23 01:21 PM | FLAG:

Sure, but this is triage. Pay to collect it later. No budget is unlimited. Mankind can survive in habitats derived from technology without nuking Mars into a better atmosphere, far more reliably and affordably, using existing engineering knowledge. Wouldn't you agree?

#39 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2016-11-23 01:25 PM | Reply

Trillions go unaccounted for by the Army alone, but you focus on the relatively minuscule amount spent by NASA. I fail to see why except if you are using it to grind your chosen political axe.

#40 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2016-11-23 01:39 PM | Reply

www.youtube.com

#41 | Posted by morris at 2016-11-23 01:40 PM | Reply

Sure, but this is triage. Pay to collect it later. No budget is unlimited. Mankind can survive in habitats derived from technology without nuking Mars into a better atmosphere, far more reliably and affordably, using existing engineering knowledge. Wouldn't you agree?

#39 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

I think there is something seriously wrong with you...

#42 | Posted by Sycophant at 2016-11-23 01:42 PM | Reply

I compared it to army accounting because climate change research is heading that way. Institutional retardation. I did not except the Army, you are moving goal posts, and dodging the question after I answered yours.

Here's a list of government agencies studying climate change currently:

Department of Agriculture
Department of Commerce
Department of Energy
Department of Health & Human Services
Department of Housing and Urban Development
Department of the Interior
Department of Justice
Department of State
Department of Transportation
NASA
US Marines
US Navy
US Army
US Air Force

If I start breaking down by offices within each branch, I'll be here all day.

#43 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2016-11-23 01:42 PM | Reply

I think there is something seriously wrong with you...

#42 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2016-11-23 01:42 PM | FLAG:

I'm deplorable. I expect a space exploration agency to focus on space exploration and their $18 billion dollar Mars rocket, while the other dozens of offices in the government studying climate change do that science.

#44 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2016-11-23 01:44 PM | Reply

and this planet has an expiration date. The landscape is defined by cataclysm after cataclysm. If we don't spread out through space, we go extinct. Can't ride this rock forever, even if all of mankind's effects on the environment ceased right this moment. Yellowstone will still blow up eventually. The Urals were hit by a meteorite with the force of an atomic bomb in just 2013.

#38 | Posted by sitzkrieg

We can ride this rock for millions of years if we're smart.

Or dozens of years if we're stupid.

And stupid just got elected.

Fixing stupid has to be our highest priority. And you don't do that by saying "whoa this knowledge is political! Let's stick with ignorance and oil profits."

#45 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-11-23 02:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That type of hyperbolic hysteria doesn't do science any favors, or make an articulate argument as to why 1/8th of our climate change funding has to run through a space exploration agency.

#46 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2016-11-23 02:30 PM | Reply

That type of hyperbolic hysteria doesn't do science any favors, or make an articulate argument as to why 1/8th of our climate change funding has to run through a space exploration agency.

#46 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Because the climate occurs ON A PLANET.

We can learn a lot about the planets and climates throughout the universe by looking at the closest example. Earth.

It's not hysteria to say electing dumb humans can ruin the climate to the point we can't survive.
It's actually ignorance to think we cant.

#47 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-11-23 02:45 PM | Reply

#38 - "They've got an $18 billion rocket system to finish. They need all of their budget to fly it."

This suggests you believe that NASA's total funding will remain the same, but that funds currently allocated to climate research would be reallocated to space exploration. I do not share your optimism. Time will tell but I suspect funds taken from climate research will simply not be available to NASA.

Similarly, I do not believe that additional funding will be provided to any of the other organizations you list in #43 to compensate for NASA's loss. My view is that if NASA loses this funding, the spending on climate research in total will be reduced and NASA's valuable contribution to climate research will simply be lost.

#48 | Posted by Foreigner at 2016-11-23 03:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#48 | Posted by Foreigner

It's almost as if you've seen and heard enough politics to know that their answer to any government function* is "cut it! Rich people need tax cuts!"

*except the military. They happily flush trillions for the military.

If ISIS was changing the climate instead of exxon, maybe we could make republicans care.

#49 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-11-23 03:38 PM | Reply

"Wow, the wackiness is hitting new levels. I've got one. Prove to me that Obama doesn't have a Muslim prayer rug that he occasionally uses"

#27 | Posted by CaseyJones

Nothing depends on what Donald has in his closet. Much might depend on where he gets his money from.

The President of the United States needs to be above suspccion on issues that directly bear on national security. At least, that's my own apparently antiquated perception.

You've got a different idea. One that is pretty damned stupid.

#50 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-23 06:28 PM | Reply


When something of substance does actually rear its head, nobody is going to listen.

#27 | Posted by CaseyJones

They'll listen if what he does makes them bleed.

#51 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-23 06:29 PM | Reply

When something of substance does actually rear its head, nobody is going to listen.

#27 | Posted by CaseyJones

Bengazzzziiiiiiii!

#52 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-11-23 06:32 PM | Reply

You've got a different idea. One that is pretty damned stupid.

#50 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2016-11-23 06:28 PM | FLAG:

You've been up and down this thread calling people stupid but the last time I checked it was you who's the moron, the village idiot that backed a failed, liar, thief, and ultimately a loser.

Carry on projecting your stupidity on everyone else who doesn't think like you, it looks good on you.

#53 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2016-11-24 05:18 AM | Reply

Carry on projecting your stupidity on everyone else who doesn't think like you

#53 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2016

People are always free not to think like me. As if I could prevent that.

But anyone who doesn't care where Donald gets his money as president is stupid, stupid, stupid.

I'm going to remind you of that at every Trump financial and political scandal over the next four year.

If you don't think there'll be a lot of them, then you're stupid.

Happy Thanksgiving.

#54 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-24 09:27 AM | Reply

Happy Thanksgiving Zed.

Although we won't agree on that stuff, hope you have a great one.

#55 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2016-11-24 09:28 AM | Reply

The majestic, magnificent, and marvelous Donald J. Trump presidential administration is set to Make NASA Great Again by shifting focus to what was once NASA's key mission: space exploration and imperialism.

Inspired by the genius, Dr. Newty Gingrich, we will usher in the age of the MoonBase™.

[Trump MoonBase Resort and Casino® to be announced at a later date].

#56 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2016-11-24 09:37 AM | Reply

#56 | POSTED BY GONOLES92 AT 2016-11-24 09:37 AM | FLAG: Actually a moon colony/scientific & industrial research station is much more doable/practical than a Mars shot.

#57 | Posted by MSgt at 2016-11-24 03:55 PM | Reply

I'm deplorable. I expect a space exploration agency to focus on space exploration and their $18 billion dollar Mars rocket, while the other dozens of offices in the government studying climate change do that science.

#44 | Posted by sitzkrieg

See this is the problem, you have a perception, but it is incorrect. So you base your decisions on these incorrect perceptions.

Here is NASA's Mission Statement

www.nasa.gov

Mission and Vision

Armstrong's Mission

Advancing technology and science through flight.

Mission Elements

Perform flight research and technology integration to revolutionize aviation and pioneer aerospace technology.

Validate space exploration concepts.

Conduct airborne remote sensing and science missions

Support operations of the International Space Station - for NASA and the nation.

See the mission is not limited to space exploration. Specifically look at this
"Conduct airborne remote sensing and science missions"

#58 | Posted by truthhurts at 2016-11-24 09:39 PM | Reply

See the mission is not limited to space exploration. Specifically look at this
"Conduct airborne remote sensing and science missions"

#58 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2016-11-24 09:39 PM | FLAG:

The actual mission, from your own text: Advancing technology and science through flight.

Here's a practical environmental science partnership that makes sense: NWO engineers satellite sensors they want, often partnered with university programs. The satellite is designed in public-private partnerships with companies that already know how to make reliable satellites. NASA flies those for them.

US climate science is all over the place and needs to be consolidated. NASA needs all their pennies to focus on their flight mission. When the other 92% of public funding for climate change science disappears, then panic.

#59 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2016-11-25 08:22 AM | Reply

Comments are closed for this entry.

Home | Breaking News | Comments | User Blogs | Stats | Back Page | RSS Feed | RSS Spec | DMCA Compliance | Privacy | Copyright 2016 World Readable

-->
Drudge Retort