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Wednesday, November 23, 2016

Joshua Holland, The Nation: A lot of low-income voters believed [Donald] Trump when he promised to make America great. They're in for what might be the rudest awakening in recent political history. Immediately after the election, the candidate who ran against the establishment, the guy who promised to "drain the swamp," immediately surrounded himself with party hacks and lobbyists. And as Politico's Ben White put it, "a populist candidate who railed against shady financial interests on the campaign trail is now putting together an administration that looks like an investment banker's dream." Trump's not going to make coal cheaper than natural gas and bring back a bunch of mining jobs. He might be able to negotiate some new riders for NAFTA, but they'll be guided by the same corporate lobbyists who effectively wrote it in the first place, and won't do anything to bring back jobs that have been sent overseas. There will be no 35 percent tariff on imports from Mexico or China.

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It is these very voters -- less educated, struggling to get by on low incomes -- who will bear the brunt of unified Republican government under Trump. The GOP Congress may give Trump his "infrastructure plan," but that looks like it will consist of a bunch of tax cuts for investors to sink into toll bridges and toll roads. It will definitely give him the rest of his huge tax cuts, but those are skewed toward those at the top and won't bring much relief to the "forgotten men and women of this country," as he promised when campaigning. If the GOP repeals the Affordable Care Act, as it's vowed to do since it was enacted, many of these voters will lose their subsidized health insurance. Block-granting Medicaid and privatizing Medicare will dramatically increase these their economic insecurity. They'll lose food stamps and Head Start slots. They'll lose access to reproductive health care. They can forget about a hike in the federal minimum wage. According to one estimate, 20 million Trump voters will lose out on a big raise when Republicans kill [President] Obama's overtime rule. And if the GOP doesn't get rid of it entirely, they'll at least hobble the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which reined in the kind of predatory lending schemes that often indenture the working poor. It'll be death by a thousand cuts.

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"How struggling voters who pinned their hopes on Trump will ultimately react is a question that will be answered in the coming years. The best-case scenario is that they rethink support, or at least sit out the 2020 election. At worst, they'll become more reactionary, and more likely to lash out at those they perceive as the other. What's certain is that they're headed for an epic case of buyers' remorse."

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-11-22 12:22 PM | Reply

I agree that Trump will fail to deliver.

I would expect people like Doc to take the low road and delight in the suffering of the lower classes but hopefully actual liberals don't follow the bitter party before country loyalists down this slime covered path.

#2 | Posted by Sully at 2016-11-22 12:38 PM | Reply

#2 | Posted by Sully at 2016-11

My wife and I didn't vote for Trump. Much of our extended family did. As the facts seem to stand right now, she and I might make a killing on a Trump presidency. Everyone else may be left holding their -------.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-22 12:43 PM | Reply

Poor Sully.

There's nothing in the essay indicating "delight" in the suffering the author envisions as Trump's impending legacy to the white working class voters who've cast their lot with him.

Far from it.

Pathetic straw man attempt.

So sad, as your Dear Leader says.

#4 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-11-22 12:55 PM | Reply

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-22 12:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

Congratulations. On both the windfall and the schadenfreude.

Maybe you will even get to live the dream scenario where one of them comes begging to you for help and you can tell give them a good lecture before turning them down. Crossing my fingers for you.....

#5 | Posted by Sully at 2016-11-22 12:56 PM | Reply

Pathetic straw man attempt.

#4 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-11-22 12:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

As if this is your first day here. People know what you're about, Doc. They can decide whether I'm off the mark for themselves.

#6 | Posted by Sully at 2016-11-22 12:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As the facts seem to stand right now, she and I might make a killing on a Trump presidency. Everyone else may be left holding their -------.
#3 | POSTED BY ZED

So you might profit from your moral dilemma? That's progressive right there.

#7 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2016-11-22 01:00 PM | Reply

#6

And about you as well.

#8 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-11-22 01:06 PM | Reply

From the essay...

Clay County, Kentucky, is a profoundly depressed area in the heart of coal country. Whether its residents responded to Trump's dog whistles or rolled the dice on a successful businessman to shake up a status quo that had failed them, the results suggest that they saw real hope in his election: Trump won the county 79-21. But according to NPR, a lot of folks in Clay County are now starting to worry about their health care, and with good reason. Kentucky set up an Obamacare exchange and expanded Medicaid under then-governor Steve Beshear, a Democrat, and today around one in three of the state's residents are covered under the program. Kentucky's uninsured rate dropped from 20 percent to just 7.5 percent over the course of two short years. In Clay County, where almost four in 10 live in poverty, 60 percent of the population relies on Medicaid, and Matt Bevin, the Republican governor who took over in 2015, wants to roll back the expansion if the federal government doesn't sign off on his plan to charge beneficiaries higher premiums. Obama's HHS was expected to reject Bevin's scheme, but that's unlikely to happen under Trump.

#9 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-11-22 01:18 PM | Reply

The left calling him a failure before he even assumes the mantle is just as humorous as all of you claiming he had no change of being selected in the Primaries and then no chance of winning against Hillary. Please do onnce again act the seer and tells us the future with your usual 'accuracy - LOL

#10 | Posted by MSgt at 2016-11-22 01:25 PM | Reply

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Who said he's a "failure"?
This guy is a grifter's Grifter.
He's gonna grift.
If you're surprised, you weren't paying attention.

#11 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-11-22 01:28 PM | Reply

watch Janet raise rates 2% just to really turn the screws...

#12 | Posted by AuntieSocial at 2016-11-22 03:43 PM | Reply

Congratulations. On both the windfall and the schadenfreude.

#5 | Posted by Sully at 2016-11-22

We conceptualize what is happening now as a car wreck. We're glad we have a better chance to survive it than some. None of us are going to like seeing the mangled bodies of others.

#13 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-22 03:51 PM | Reply

So you might profit from your moral dilemma?

#7 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2016

What moral dilemma?

This is the world you created. I expect you to enjoy it.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-22 03:54 PM | Reply

People doing well will do even better under Trump. The people who needed him to follow through on his promises will finally be crushed. At that point, Trump will have succeeded - nobody left needing a job.

#15 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2016-11-22 05:11 PM | Reply

I would expect people like Doc to take the low road and delight in the suffering of the lower classes but hopefully actual liberals don't follow the bitter party before country loyalists down this slime covered path.

Would you show sympathy for someone who stuck his ------ in a light socket?

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 10:04 PM | Reply

Would you show sympathy for someone who stuck his ------ in a light socket?

Only if the light socket orgasmed.

#17 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 10:07 PM | Reply

#17 - only if it fit completely.

#18 | Posted by YAV at 2016-11-22 10:15 PM | Reply

I'm afraid this article may prove to be right.
From what it looks like, there's only one reason Trump's interested in the Presidency; to make himself even richer.
He told people what they wanted to hear, and he's backtracking from it as fast as he can now that he's won.
And when asked about doing anything different or regretting anything he said while campaigning he said: "No. I won."
America may have to suffer to learn this lesson.
For that I'm sorry - but the warning signs were flashing.

#19 | Posted by YAV at 2016-11-22 10:16 PM | Reply

AKA the Black & Decker ------ wrecker.

#20 | Posted by madscientist at 2016-11-22 10:18 PM | Reply

for -----------.
if the article is correct.

#21 | Posted by YAV at 2016-11-22 10:18 PM | Reply

For that I'm sorry - but the warning signs were flashing.

It's also not as if people have been screaming that conclusion for months.

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 10:34 PM | Reply

Only if the light socket orgasmed.

If it sparks does that mean it's a squirter?

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 10:35 PM | Reply

It's also not as if people have been screaming that conclusion for months.

For all the good it did. I've never seen "post-truth" become so entrenched. Trump voters didn't care and don't seem to care now whether anything

#24 | Posted by YAV at 2016-11-22 10:42 PM | Reply

he said will get done. They bought the 'mega' - sine laude.

#25 | Posted by YAV at 2016-11-22 10:46 PM | Reply

man - screwed that up and I'm not fixing it, but 'mega' should've been "MAGA" (make America great again). It was bad word play in Latin - just to be even more obscure.

#26 | Posted by YAV at 2016-11-22 11:06 PM | Reply

Tinkle down will work this time after failing every other time.

#27 | Posted by 726 at 2016-11-23 07:31 AM | Reply

Hope they like fleece because that's what they got.

#28 | Posted by Jasper at 2016-11-23 09:29 AM | Reply

Would you show sympathy for someone who stuck his ------ in a light socket?

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 10:04 PM | Reply

No, I would take great joy in his pain and stupidity and build my self worth around being in a little club where everyone is smarter than him.

#29 | Posted by Sully at 2016-11-23 10:49 AM | Reply

This is a stupid game. Blacks, especially the poor ones, struggled under Obama.
Now whites, especially the poor ones, will struggle under trump.

Guess what, dummies...poor people get the shaft. Black ones and white ones.

Is this news to you stooges?

#30 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2016-11-23 10:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Is this news to you stooges?

#30 | Posted by 101Chairborne

Not at all, Moe.

#31 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-23 11:27 AM | Reply

Zed, are you going to blame Trump for not taking the Giblets out of the Turkey before baking too?

#32 | Posted by wisgod at 2016-11-23 11:32 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Guess what. Given our choices this election the working class was going to be feeling the pain no matter what. Choose your poison.

#33 | Posted by moder8 at 2016-11-23 11:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

-Zed, are you going to blame Trump for not taking the Giblets out of the Turkey before baking too?

"Turkey prices down this Thanksgiving"

That's Trump. Making Thanksgiving Great Again!

#34 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-23 11:42 AM | Reply

I don't see anything from Trump so far to indicate he is capable of helping the economically threatened white voters in places like Pennsylvania and West Virginia. A lot of his trade rhetoric would just ignite trade wars if he carried those ideas out. So far all his tax and infrastructure plans are about making fat cats fatter.

#35 | Posted by rcade at 2016-11-23 11:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" So far all his tax and infrastructure plans are about making fat cats fatter."

Certainly true with his tax plan.

His "massive tax cut" to the middle class amounts to less than $1.60/day, while his plan---surprise, surprise!---gives massive new breaks to folks just like Donald Trump.

#36 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-11-23 11:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The sad part is that The Donald will send out a few tweets telling them everything is great again and anything else they hear is just the lamestream media telling lies. And they'll believe it. Sigh.

#37 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2016-11-23 01:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Not sure why the markets are so optimistic. I can tell you manufacturing isn't - or they are not buying like it anyhow.

I work at a bell weather company. We sell to pretty much every other manufacturing industry you can imagine.

- We were down 2% Year over year until the 2nd debate. Manufacturing overall has been down this year.
- At that point orders jumped - the day after literally. It looked like Hillary could not lose at that point. We were running about 15% up year over year.
- Until the FBI investigation was announced and Trump started a run in the polls. Sales went back flat.
- Then the election hit... We have been consistently down about 30-35%. He have had 2 "normal" days since the election. That is in 10 Business days. Yesterday was about 50% down - some of that could be holiday though. Usually it's only the last day before a holiday that sales really impacted...

Frankly I am very concerned.

#38 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2016-11-23 02:09 PM | Reply

comments out today from Trump about his first day and week and EC"s COULD prove this guy to be a typical writer for the "nation"..

a common everyday leftist liar...

#39 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2016-11-23 02:11 PM | Reply

They voted for him. Let them suffer the plans they voted for.

#40 | Posted by Sycophant at 2016-11-23 02:12 PM | Reply

won't matter though...if he IS proven wrong, you won't read about it here....and by here .;...I mean in the "nation"..

#41 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2016-11-23 02:13 PM | Reply

#40 | Posted by Sycophant

Problem is it's not just Trumpettes suffering it's going to be the sub 1%ers.

#42 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2016-11-23 02:22 PM | Reply

When the hilljacks that comprise TrumpTard nation blame someone for Orange Adolf's upcoming failures, Breitbart, InfoWars, Worldnetdaily will blame the previous president..... ya'll know, the black guy that spent 8 years in the WHITEhouse, and so will the misinformed rubes that get their political insight from these alt-right propaganda sources. They really are THAT stupid!

#43 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2016-11-24 05:39 AM | Reply

#1 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS

Hope springs eternal for you "progressives," doesn't it, Doc? Can't you idiots see what has been happening due to your "wonderful" policies? You and all of your little friends have been relying MUCH too heavily on prophets giving you a pile-of-poop propaganda like this nut, Joshua Holland, for a long time. I bet he was one of those "Hillary by a landslide" prognosticators too, right. Wise up, Doc, look at the facts. Go back and look at the "shellacking" in 2010, the "wipeout" in 2014...and then, this "Hillary landslide." They're duping you, fool.

"Still sifting through the wreckage of the Nov. 8 election, Democratic leaders nationwide are struggling to find a new message to claw back support and avoid years in the political wilderness.

Not only do Republicans control the White House and both the U.S. Senate and the House of Representatives, they now hold 33 governor's offices.

New England, long considered reliably Democratic, is a prime example of the party's demise.

Republican Phil Scott won in Vermont over Democrat Sue Minter who was criticized, like presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, for failing to develop an economic message that resonated with voters worried about good-paying jobs.

Considered a liberal bastion, Vermont has a tradition of sometimes choosing a Republican governor to keep one party from having too much control.

constitutionalrightspac.com

#44 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2016-11-24 06:41 AM | Reply

"When the hilljacks..."

Hilljacks???...LOL

"....that comprise TrumpTard nation..."

Trumptard???...LOL...well, he DID build a remarkable empire worth billions. Perhaps he can apply of of that expertise to build some economic success in the nation as opposed to just organizing some communities.

"...blame someone for Orange Adolf's upcoming failures, Breitbart, InfoWars, Worldnetdaily will blame the previous president....."

You mean like you and the current president and his sycophants have done for eight years now?

"... and so will the misinformed rubes that get their political insight from these alt-right propaganda sources. They really are THAT stupid!" Maybe you should review #44before deciding who's REALLY stupid here.

All I can say is all those alt-LEFT sources sure screwed the pooch predicting the Hillabeast landslide, now didn't they?

#45 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2016-11-24 07:13 AM | Reply

You are exhibit A, of what I was talking about. Youre probably a mouth breather wearing a red "make america great hat".

Good job on outing yourself as a TrumpTard Cletus!

#46 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2016-11-24 05:55 PM | Reply

No, I would take great joy in his pain and stupidity and build my self worth around being in a little club where everyone is smarter than him.

#29 | Posted by Sully

Whatever you sanctimonious ass.

It has nothing to do with self-worth and everything to do with morons who complain that liberals try to tell them how to vote for their best interests showing they can't vote for their own self-interest.

Reality is a bitch. Suck it up and accept it.

#47 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-24 11:40 PM | Reply

The demographics in the article are inaccurate (see exit poll link, below). The poor and the wealthy voted more for Clinton than Trump and it was his success with the middle class that won the day. Also the divisive language of "blacks should take care of bidness and vote for Hillary or it will be a personal insult" and other "latinos do this and that" and "LGBTQA owe this support" that turned off not just those groups but other independent thinkers that helped to sink her. But the left don't get it.

Trump says he wants to be president for everyone; maybe he should actually get into office and succeed ot fail before the wildly inaccurate predictive left stream media talks out its pie hole so much about the future. Or maybe adopting the opposite viewpoint of every news outlet should become de riguer until they actually get something correct.

I am surprised we have not seen more crowing that the stock market has hit its new highs during the Obama administration rather than attributing that to the optimism people are feeling about the future. It is happening now and not when Trump takes office. The Fed is already considering raising interest rates to slow recovery before it even has a chance to take hold. It's like suffocating a fire that you're trying to build by throwing a yule log on an ember. I am curious to see what happens when he is in office.

www.forbes.com

#48 | Posted by Nuke_Gently at 2016-11-25 05:44 AM | Reply

Polling data . . . www.cnn.com

#49 | Posted by Nuke_Gently at 2016-11-25 05:45 AM | Reply

Everybody on the left has a crystal ball and is already predicting the future. The left hasn't been real stellar in their prognostication skills recently... but that ain't gonna stop them. They know what's best for you bumbling, moronic, middle income whitey's. They can't wait to see America fail so they can do a collective group hug!

#50 | Posted by CaseyJones at 2016-11-25 01:11 PM | Reply

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