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Tuesday, November 22, 2016

Donald Trump has decided that he won't seek criminal investigations related to Hillary Clinton's private email server or her family foundation, his campaign manager said Tuesday. Trump's apparent decison, conveyed by campaign manager Kellyanne Conway, is a change from his campaign rhetoric, in which he issued incendiary calls for a special prosecutor to reopen the FBI's closed investigation of Clinton's use of a private server while secretary of state and had also urged investigations of allegations of corruption at the Clinton Foundation. He nicknamed the Democratic nominee "Crooked Hillary" and encouraged chants of "Lock her up!" at his rallies.

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Most politicians wait until they get into office before they start admitting they were full of crap. Trump doesn't even wait until all of the votes are counted but we already expected as much anyway. Conman Donnie strikes again

#1 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2016-11-22 10:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Seems reasonable .....

Even if she broke the law or not, its a classy move by Trump.

No point in dividing the nation more, can you imagine the "rubes" if she was found guilty and put in prison?

The DR wouldn't have any moderation for months.

#2 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2016-11-22 11:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why bother? Hillary has already been psychologically imprisoned for life by her shocking defeat as well as the eternal humiliation of losing to The Donald.

#3 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2016-11-22 11:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Oh nooooo.... If President Trump doesn't try to "Trump dat bish," then he loses his Authoritarian card.

#4 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2016-11-22 11:05 AM | Reply

The Clintons attended Trump's wedding. Birds of a feather.

#5 | Posted by nutcase at 2016-11-22 11:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

SHE'S BEEN THROUGH ENOUGH! SHE'S BEEN THROUGH ENOUGH!

Not quite as catchy...

So much for the rule of law from Mr. LAW AND ORDER.

#6 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2016-11-22 11:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Basic political strategy. When you are going to break promises, do it immediately. Holding out, then lying, might hurt later on.

#7 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2016-11-22 11:15 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Now the left is crying that he won't lock her up? Man, do snowflakes make you cry when they land on you?

#8 | Posted by wisgod at 2016-11-22 11:17 AM | Reply | Funny: 7

#7

Saying "He's not going to lock her up, you ------" as he was saying it isn't crying.

Saying "See, I told you he wasn't going to lock her up, ------" is also not crying.

At least it's not to people who don't speak ------, ------.

#9 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2016-11-22 11:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

No jail for Clinton - LOL!

How long til the rubes get really pissed?

Posted by angrydad at 10:54 AM | 1 COMMENT | permalink | Comment on This Entry |

www.drudge.com

#10 | Posted by Angrydad at 2016-11-22 11:21 AM | Reply

"Once again, the president-elect has demonstrated his complete lack of understanding of how the government makes these kinds of decisions," said Stephen I. Vladeck, a law professor at the University of Texas at Austin. "The attorney general answers to the president, but the department is supposed to be independent, especially when it comes to prosecutorial decisions. Any president, especially our next president, needs to both understand and respect that – or else they risk politicizing criminal prosecutions in ways that can be damaging."
www.washingtonpost.com

#11 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-11-22 11:21 AM | Reply

same as it ever was.

#12 | Posted by AuntieSocial at 2016-11-22 11:22 AM | Reply

I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Duhr

#13 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2016-11-22 11:22 AM | Reply

She's not worth it. Her sad and pathetic political death is punishment enough.

Good call.

#14 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2016-11-22 11:24 AM | Reply | Funny: 3 | Newsworthy 1

Hey! WISDOGSHIZZ is back!
What! No mention of how every campaign promise made by Der Trumpf Fuhrer has already been broken or "modified"?
Fools.

#15 | Posted by e1g1 at 2016-11-22 11:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Weird news of the day:

Trump won't prosecute Clinton. Democrats outraged!

#16 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-22 11:25 AM | Reply | Funny: 4 | Newsworthy 1

Send her to an assisted living facility instead where she can twerk and glitch all she wants.

#17 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2016-11-22 11:26 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

That didn't take long

#18 | Posted by tomalock at 2016-11-22 11:27 AM | Reply

"See, I told you he wasn't going to lock her up, retard" is also not crying.
#8 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2016-11-22 11:21 AM
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The Hillbots were making a big deal out of the fact that he would, saying he was the biggest threat to Democracy ever. Pretending you believed he wasn't going to all along in hindsight in hindsight is retarded.

#19 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2016-11-22 11:30 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

The point, of course, eludes poor Wussyfidian.
I don't think Dems are upset Trump has backed away from what he promised to do
That's what the Great Orange Grifter does.
Get ready, riiighties.
Your Dear Leader has a pantry full of ---- sandwiches for you to gag on.
Suckers.

#20 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-11-22 11:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

If HRC broke the law and it can be proven then she should be locked up. In terms of potential criminality, nothing has changed. The pay-to-play scenarios are just as offensive now as they were one month ago.

#21 | Posted by moder8 at 2016-11-22 11:33 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

It shouldn't be all that hard to prove that I personally believed any such thing, #18.

All you have to do is find the post where I said those things.

You're going to look pretty retarded if no such quote exists.

Hurry.

#22 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2016-11-22 11:35 AM | Reply

At least it's not to people who don't speak retard, retard.

#8 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood

Not sure if you speak it, but you sure as hell type it. I'll bet you played the banjo with Ronnie Cox.

#23 | Posted by wisgod at 2016-11-22 11:36 AM | Reply

Presidents know that they are term limited. Start locking up your opponents and just as soon as you are out of office and your party is out of office, the incoming president could be coming for you.

#24 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2016-11-22 11:36 AM | Reply

She was/is going to get pardoned by Obama in 58 days anyways.

Pursuing her would mean pursuing Obama, Bush, Powell and the whole host of pay-for-play politicians.

Keeping Hillary from power will effectively dismantle the Clinton Foundation. Keeping Hillary from power allowed us to avoid eight more years of Obama policies.

More filth will be uncovered. Wikileaks exposed a trail of bread loaves leading right into the Clinton kitchen where they cook the books. And pasta. And pizza. Lots of pizza.

If I were Hillary, I'd still like that pardon.

#26 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2016-11-22 11:39 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

More filth will be uncovered.
#25 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2016-11-22 11:39 AM
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Unfortunately, Trump is right there in the filth with his own foundation.

#27 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2016-11-22 11:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Your Dear Leader has a pantry full of ---- sandwiches for you to gag on.
Suckers.

#19 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS

Obama served up 10 Trillion ---- sandwiches.

We all know the cupboard is bare.

#28 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2016-11-22 11:42 AM | Reply

"Obama served up 10 Trillion ---- sandwiches."

After Rs purposely changed the menu to ----, then refused to update the menu.

Of course, no one from "the party of responsibility" is going there.

#29 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-11-22 11:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Hillary snifflers are rootin' for a Banana Republic, so they can say 'I told ya so'.

#30 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2016-11-22 11:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Very impressive. Trump appears to be a statesman after all.

#31 | Posted by visitor_ at 2016-11-22 11:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm starting to expect 4 years of unsubstantiated claims combined with goal-post moving.

#32 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2016-11-22 11:52 AM | Reply

Look at how little Trump voters care that he is breaking another major promise. His word is completely meaningless and it doesn't phase them at all.

You are the biggest suckers on the face of the planet.

#33 | Posted by rcade at 2016-11-22 11:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 9

Obama served up 10 Trillion ---- sandwiches.

"Obama so loved the poor, he created millions more"

#34 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2016-11-22 11:53 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Look at how little Trump voters care that he is breaking another major promise. #32 | POSTED BY RCADE

You believed that Trump was going to seize HRC and throw her in Leavenworth, and that this was a primary component of his campaign? Interesting..

#35 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2016-11-22 11:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"You believed that Trump was going to seize HRC and throw her in Leavenworth"

You believed he was lying?

#37 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-11-22 11:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Now the left is crying that he won't lock her up? Man, do snowflakes make you cry when they land on you?

#7 | Posted by wisgod

See, class this is an example of deflection and a warped sense of perception.

Lefties aren't crying whatsoever, why? well our candidate wont be subject to a politically motivated witch hunt.

We also knew Trump was FOS.

The question is why aren't YOU outraged, Mark? He broke his promise to you or cant you remember all the Lock Her Ups!

#38 | Posted by truthhurts at 2016-11-22 11:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Leave her alone.

She can go down in history as being the only woman to lose the presidency twice.

The donations to the Clinton Foundation are drying up.

She can retire to Chappaqua, have her seizures in private and get fatter.

#39 | Posted by sawdust at 2016-11-22 12:00 PM | Reply

"Trump appears to be a statesman after all."

You misspelled liar.

#40 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-11-22 12:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Donald Trump

"I cannot tell a lie. Hillary Clinton cut down the cherry tree. And I will prosecute her for that. She has been the biggest cherry tree cutter in the history of the world. Never has there been a bigger cherry tree cutter."

Maryanne Conway

"Hillary Clinton didn't cut the cherry tree down"

#41 | Posted by truthhurts at 2016-11-22 12:04 PM | Reply

You believed he was lying? #36 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Having attended a handful of Trump rallies in FL, I recognized the "Lock 'er up!" chants as a rally rhetorical device. As Peter Thiel astutely commented, people took Donald Trump's campaign rallies seriously, but not literally.

#42 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2016-11-22 12:06 PM | Reply

You believed that Trump was going to seize HRC and throw her in Leavenworth, and that this was a primary component of his campaign? Interesting..
#34 | POSTED BY GONOLES92 AT 2016-11-22 11:55 AM | REPLY

You knowingly voted for a liar?

Not really interesting.

Kinda pathetic.

Keep being a useful idiot GoNoles.

#43 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-11-22 12:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Pathetic.

#44 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-11-22 12:09 PM | Reply

Having attended a handful of Trump rallies in FL, I recognized the "Lock 'er up!" chants as a rally rhetorical device. As Peter Thiel astutely commented, people took Donald Trump's campaign rallies seriously, but not literally.

I get what you're seeing, I really do. But do you really think everybody at those rallies understood the distinction? Also, at what point does campaign rhetoric become campaign promise? Seems like you're opening up an awful lot of wiggle room on pretty much EVERYTHING that President-Elect Trump has said. Furthermore, addressing the chants at a campaign is one thing; addressing what he said he would do in a nationally televised debate that was meant to focus on policy is something else entirely. Did he or did he not indicate that he would pursuing an investigation and prosecution?

For the record, I didn't really think he'd follow through on it. The fact that you, on the Trump Train, also claim to have realized that is a bit perplexing, though. How do you separate the rhetoric from the actual platform?

#45 | Posted by dylanfan at 2016-11-22 12:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Lock her up!"

SUCKERS

#46 | Posted by 726 at 2016-11-22 12:12 PM | Reply

You knowingly voted for a liar? #42 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Can you point out a person involved in politics who doesn't occasionally stretch the truth for strategic purposes?

Interesting that Hillbots believed that their Earth Mother was about to be sent to jail, lol.

#47 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2016-11-22 12:12 PM | Reply

"as a rally rhetorical device."

And, as it turns out, so was his claim she was dangerous to the Republic. And that he'd appoint SCOTUS judges who would revisit gay marriage rights. And that he got a letter from the NFL. And his claim of a "massive tax cut" for the middle class, that turned out to be less than $1.60 a day.

In fact, it turns out pretty much everything was a lie...er, "rhetorical device".

#48 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-11-22 12:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How do you separate the rhetoric from the actual platform? #44 | POSTED BY DYLANFAN

Some yokels may be bummed that Hillary won't be pictured in handcuffs and an orange jumpsuit, but presidents can't please all of their supporters, and I felt that prosecuting a campaign opponent would needlessly expend political capital which could be better spent on other campaign platform issues.

Personally, the campaign issues that I took both seriously and literally from Trump's campaign was his focus on economics and jobs, and building the wall.

Thus far, both platform issues are in-process to being satisfied:

USA's participation in TPP has been cancelled.
Wall construction begins in March, 2017 (
www.drudge.com).
And I expect President Trump to follow Obama's very recent decision to enact tariffs on specific Chinese goods, and possibly other specific goods from other nations to assist in providing a better balance of trade for the USA.

#49 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2016-11-22 12:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Interesting that Hillbots believed that their Earth Mother was about to be sent to jail, lol.

#46 | POSTED BY GONOLES92

Did Trump pinky swear he wasn't going to pursue her? Or did he say it's not a priority in his first 100 days? Did he say he won't appoint a special prosecutor?

Is there anything at all that Trump has said that binds him, the FBI and the DOJ to keeping Hillary free? As noted in this thread, Trump is a liar, so he may be lying about not pursuing her.

She's still going to need that pardon.

ROTFLMAO

#50 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2016-11-22 12:22 PM | Reply

Is there anything at all that Trump has said that binds him, the FBI and the DOJ to keeping Hillary free?

The FBI may have their way with Sec. Clinton, we will see!

At the very least, I hope that if Anthony Wiener is as sick of a perv as has been alleged, he doesn't receive a Jeffrey Epstein-type get out of jail free card.

#51 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2016-11-22 12:25 PM | Reply

Can you point out a person involved in politics who doesn't occasionally stretch the truth for strategic purposes?

So. In your book. Lying is fine. As long as everyone does it.

Interesting that Hillbots believed that their Earth Mother was about to be sent to jail, lol.
#46 | POSTED BY GONOLES92 AT 2016-11-22 12:12 PM | FLAG:

Hillbot? Me?? Good god you're a moron. No wonder you're such an avid Trumpoholic.

As for believing she would be locked up. I don't believe anyone with any semblance of intelligence believed he was being serious about that. Which. Excludes a lot of Trump voters.

By the way.

"Earth mother"? What does that even mean? Is it something you saw Nulli say. So you are as well??

#52 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-11-22 12:27 PM | Reply

Lock Her Up! Impeach Trump!

#53 | Posted by patron at 2016-11-22 12:27 PM | Reply

The Clinton-spellbound media drove this hyperbole narrative of a deranged nazi with the launch codes gonna lock her up fureal Nanner Republick.
I told you guys it would backfire. But not to disappoint, the global elite want to scatter the squirrels with panic and chaos. When that doesn't pan out, move the goalposts.

BTW. why isn't the media focusing on the lies and broken promises of the #CelebFlakes moving to Canada?

#54 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2016-11-22 12:28 PM | Reply

ROTFLMAO
#49 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH AT 2016-11-22 12:22 PM | FLAG:

Your fat ass is rolling on the floor?

Jesus Christ!

Careful not to get stuck on your back fatso! You may need a forklift to get you right side up again.

#55 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-11-22 12:29 PM | Reply

Apparently, Hillary is going to print out the transcript from this Morning Joe segment and carry it around in her back pocket, because that's all she's got right now.

Well, that and the FBI reiterating they won't recommend charges.

www.msnbc.com

Funny stuff.

#56 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2016-11-22 12:31 PM | Reply

From reading this thread it seems like the only people who really cared about locking Hillary up are also the "every vote was owed to Hillary" crowd.

Bizarre.

#57 | Posted by Sully at 2016-11-22 12:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Careful not to get stuck on your back fatso! You may need a forklift to get you right side up again.

#54 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

I've been working out. Sorry about the damage to your psyche.

youtu.be

#58 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2016-11-22 12:35 PM | Reply

How is closing GITMO coming alone?

#59 | Posted by homerj at 2016-11-22 12:36 PM | Reply

*along

#60 | Posted by homerj at 2016-11-22 12:36 PM | Reply

Hillary is going to print out the transcript from this Morning Joe segment and carry it around in her back pocket

That's her hot sauce pocket.

#61 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-11-22 12:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

From reading this thread it seems like the only people who really cared about locking Hillary up are also the "every vote was owed to Hillary" crowd.

Bizarre.

#56 | Posted by Sully

Yeah, but paying attention during the election, one would have thought the Marks cared deeply about Hillary being locked up.

#62 | Posted by truthhurts at 2016-11-22 12:37 PM | Reply

Hillbot? Me?? #51 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK
Not specifically you, but as a general commentary toward the most ardent HRC supporters in this webforum.

"Earth mother"? What does that even mean?
From what I remember of the origin story, it was a snarky term coined by Doc_sarvis, used to describe Corky's characterization of, and affinity for, Senator Clinton back in the 2008 DNC primary. While I don't know the lengths of endearment to Hillary Clinton that 2008-Corky espoused, I found "Earth Mother" an apt description of how many 2016 Hillary supporters would personify Clinton as a shining, flawless, lady-on-the-hill and presumptive President-elect.

#63 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2016-11-22 12:38 PM | Reply

I've been working out.
#57 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH AT 2016-11-22 12:35 PM | FLAG:

Jazzercizing?

#64 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-11-22 12:38 PM | Reply

From reading this thread it seems like the only people who really cared about locking Hillary up are also the "every vote was owed to Hillary" crowd.

Bizarre.

Posted by Sully at 2016-11-22 12:32 PM | Reply

It just tells me they know Hillary done wrong yet can't admit to it to it fully. It's as close as you are going to get with them. I'll take it.

#65 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2016-11-22 12:40 PM | Reply

Yeah, but paying attention during the election, one would have thought the Marks cared deeply about Hillary being locked up.

Along with the rest of the Trumpeters.

I mean. What ever happened to those emails??

It seems they literally stopped being an issue for Republicans the second Trump was elected.

#66 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-11-22 12:41 PM | Reply

One wonders how many promises Trump will have to break to even score a blip of disapproval from the marks.

#67 | Posted by truthhurts at 2016-11-22 12:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Reading Gonoles' Pavlovian, truly pathetic (albeit wonderfully revealing) rationalizations reminds me of something else his Dear Leader said during the campaign.

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters."

In other words, Dear Leader fully realized what a cacophonous cluster of boobery his supporters were and are.

#68 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-11-22 12:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Donald Trump is a Liar. Any debate?

#69 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-22 12:48 PM | Reply

"Trump Won't Lock Her Up"

Oh well, it was a good campaign device to get people to vote for him anyway.

#70 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2016-11-22 12:49 PM | Reply

Yeah, but paying attention during the election, one would have thought the Marks cared deeply about Hillary being locked up.

#61 | Posted by truthhurts at 2016-11-22 12:37 PM | Reply

Really? The only people I saw voicing a strong opinion on it were anti.

Or at least they were before today.

#71 | Posted by Sully at 2016-11-22 12:50 PM | Reply

Lock her up, build the wall ,deport illegals,and stop the refugees.If Trump ends up breaking these promises when in office he will fail.

#72 | Posted by patron at 2016-11-22 12:50 PM | Reply

Love to see all of the TrumpTards who were so outraged pre-election about e-mails all of the sudden don't care that their man Orange Adolf lied his ass off. Hypocrisy at its finest from these political retards.

#73 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2016-11-22 12:51 PM | Reply

Yeah, but paying attention during the election, one would have thought the Marks cared deeply about Hillary being locked up.

Along with the rest of the Trumpeters.
I mean. What ever happened to those emails??
It seems they literally stopped being an issue for Republicans the second Trump was elected.

#65 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Despite the pardon issued by Morning Joe, the issue isn't dead. But, the issue definitely is at a bypass, Trump not being in power yet and the FBI having read 650,000 emails in 8 days and clearing Hillary before the election.

If there is no pardon from Obama, Trump can take the issue up again when new information comes out. It's smart for Trump to not make this a focus for the next few months.

The ball is in Obama's court. The only thing that's going to happen in the next two months is a pardon.

#74 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2016-11-22 12:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Orange Adolf

hahaha~

Trump knew his rube base would fall for anything he told them, and they have, hard.

#75 | Posted by Corky at 2016-11-22 12:56 PM | Reply

The only thing that's going to happen in the next two months is a pardon.

#73 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at

A pardon should be given. In the same spirit as those accused of witchcraft should have been given protection instead of hung or burned.

#76 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-22 12:56 PM | Reply

Yeah, but paying attention during the election, one would have thought the Marks cared deeply about Hillary being locked up.

#61 | Posted by truthhurts

Maybe they cared more about the House, the Senate and the Supreme Court. Besides, she can hardly walk upright.

#77 | Posted by wisgod at 2016-11-22 12:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Orange Adolf

#74 | Posted by Corky

Tang, the official drink of fascists.

#78 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-22 12:57 PM | Reply

Now the left is crying that he won't lock her up? Man, do snowflakes make you cry when they land on you?

#7 | Posted by wisgod

As usual you're just fine being bent over by your politicians.

Righties are so pathetic they're not even asking for a reach around...

#79 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 12:58 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Maybe they cared more about the House, the Senate and the Supreme Court.

#76 | Posted by wisgod

Sure. It was always obvious what a thoughtful and well-mannered crew Trump supporters are.

#80 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-22 12:59 PM | Reply

One wonders how many promises Trump will have to break to even score a blip of disapproval from the marks.

The only bit of truth Trump spoke during his entire campaign was he could literally shoot someone dead in the streets and he wouldn't lose his sycophant's devotion.

#81 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-11-22 12:59 PM | Reply

Trump knew his rube base would fall for anything he told them, and they have, hard.

#74 | Posted by Corky

Pretty funny considering which side has it's panties in a knot about his opponents investigations. Just sit back and let the Republicans take care of everything while you thumb suckers watch.

#82 | Posted by wisgod at 2016-11-22 01:01 PM | Reply

The Hillbots were making a big deal out of the fact that he would, saying he was the biggest threat to Democracy ever. Pretending you believed he wasn't going to all along in hindsight in hindsight is retarded.

#18 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE

C'mon, LoD. This isn't about the Hillbots or anyone else.

This is about how blatantly the Rube Trump voters got played. Or are you saying they didn't believe it either?

In which case, you don't find it concerning they voted openly for a complete liar because they were afraid of another liar getting the WH?

You're not at all disturbed by the utter lack of logic, coherency or critical thinking exhibited by about 50% of those who voted?

#83 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 01:01 PM | Reply

Righties are so pathetic they're not even asking for a reach around...

#78 | Posted by jpw at 2016

Now that the celebration is over, most are already on their backs, asking to be raped.

#84 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-22 01:02 PM | Reply

Sure. It was always obvious what a thoughtful and well-mannered crew Trump supporters are.

#79 | Posted by Zed

What happened with your side? They couldn't even hold their noses and stayed home. Take it up with them, Zedesta.

#85 | Posted by wisgod at 2016-11-22 01:03 PM | Reply

#81 | POSTED BY WISGOD

Speaking of his rube base....

#86 | Posted by Corky at 2016-11-22 01:04 PM | Reply

and that this was a primary component of his campaign? Interesting..

#34 | Posted by GOnoles92

I refuse to believe you're unaware of how revisionist your posts are of recent events.

You're rather vile. Sorry, but I'm done being nice about this. Trump supporters are vile trash who will think a burning Rome is "winning".

#87 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 01:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Now the left is crying that he won't lock her up? Man, do snowflakes make you cry when they land on you?

#7 | Posted by wisgod

As usual you're just fine being bent over by your politicians.
Righties are so pathetic they're not even asking for a reach around...

#78 | POSTED BY JPW

Oh, I'm getting my reacharound.

#88 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2016-11-22 01:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

As usual you're just fine being bent over by your politicians.

Righties are so pathetic they're not even asking for a reach around...

#78 | Posted by jpw

Maybe if Obama had kept a few of his middle class promises, your eyes wouldn't be wet 2 weeks after she got whipped.

#89 | Posted by wisgod at 2016-11-22 01:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Despite the pardon issued by Morning Joe, the issue isn't dead.

And if it were dead.

You wouldn't care either way.

Trump is the biggest con man to ever enter politics.

He swept the floor with the Republicans and bamboozled the Democrats.

The man took lying to new heights never dreamed of by any politician before him.

And you Trumpoholics drank up the lies till you got fat.

Now as his deceptions unfold. You're left making excuses for why you're fine with being lied to.

Deal with it.

#90 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-11-22 01:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Speaking of his rube base....

#85 | Posted by Corky

Speaking of a 2 time Hillary loser....

#91 | Posted by wisgod at 2016-11-22 01:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Deal with it.

#89 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

I am super cool.

Let's see if Obama pardons Hillary on January 19th. We can chat more on this then.

#92 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2016-11-22 01:09 PM | Reply

You're rather vile. Sorry... POSTED BY JPW

It is okay, I forgive you.
Trump hasn't been sworn into office yet so there is plenty of time for you to eventually come to your senses, hop aboard the Trump Train, and help Make America Great Again.

#93 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2016-11-22 01:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Personally, the campaign issues that I took both seriously and literally from Trump's campaign was his focus on economics and jobs, and building the wall.

How can you in any way be sure that Trump didn't view these as campaign rhetoric?

You're basically admitting you have no clear idea what Trump will do and didn't have a clear idea when you voted for him.

That makes you one of the biggest -------- I've ever met.

#94 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 01:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

How can you in any way be sure that Trump didn't view these as campaign rhetoric?

Did you read the other comments within that post, or are you knee-jerking right now?
Jerking something else?
Making jerky?

#95 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2016-11-22 01:11 PM | Reply

"Broken Promise," blared Breitbart, the conservative website that promoted Mr. Trump's candidacy and gave him the mastermind of his campaign, Stephen K. Bannon.

The conservative provocateur Ann Coulter was no more subtle.

Ann Coulter ✔ @AnnCoulter
Whoa! I thought we elected @realDonaldTrump president. Did we make him the FBI, & DOJ? His job is to pick those guys, not do their jobs.
twitter.com

{mAnn was fine with Trump doing their job when he wanted to prosecute her)

Judicial Watch, the conservative legal organization that has doggedly pursued Mrs. Clinton and former President Bill Clinton, also chimed in:

"Donald Trump must commit his administration to a serious, independent investigation of the very serious Clinton national security, email, and pay-to-play scandals. If Mr. Trump's appointees continue the Obama administration's politicized spiking of a criminal investigation of Hillary Clinton, it would be a betrayal of his promise to the American people to "drain the swamp" of out-of-control corruption in Washington."

Faux outrage at the top becomes real outrage among the rubes when they find out they've been had.

#96 | Posted by Corky at 2016-11-22 01:12 PM | Reply

Maybe if Obama had kept a few of his middle class promises, your eyes wouldn't be wet 2 weeks after she got whipped.

My eyes aren't wet. I hated Hillary and for months have been saying she was a terrible candidate who was likely to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

You, however, seem to think the answer to Obama not keeping a few middle class promises to be voting in a man who makes no promises (or doesn't keep any at least) and shows ZERO inclination to doing anything for the middle class whatsoever.

This is a case of chopping off the head to spite the face.

#97 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 01:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Did you read the other comments within that post, or are you knee-jerking right now?

I unfortunately read your drivel.

You seem to have this naive confidence that the cherry picked Trump "promises" you think were literal will be followed through on despite the blizzard of reneged promises.

#98 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 01:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Just sit back and let the Republicans take care of everything while you thumb suckers watch.

Like they did with these same ideas from 2000 to 2008?

#99 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 01:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is a case of chopping off the head to spite the face.

#96 | Posted by jpw

No, it's a case of loading up the supreme court for a generation. Sucks, donut?

#100 | Posted by wisgod at 2016-11-22 01:21 PM | Reply

Maybe if Obama had kept a few of his middle class promises, your eyes wouldn't be wet 2 weeks after she got whipped.
#88 | POSTED BY WISGOD AT 2016-11-22 01:06 PM | FLAG:

Obama won both his elections. He would have won his third had he been eligible.

Your brain is rotted with Obama hate. Must be why you voted for a reality television host.

#101 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-11-22 01:22 PM | Reply

#99

Why we have the Nooner.

#102 | Posted by Corky at 2016-11-22 01:23 PM | Reply

Like they did with these same ideas from 2000 to 2008?

#98 | Posted by jpw

Pretty stupid talk considering what a dud Obama's hallmark Heath Care plan is. About as stupid as you boneheads claiming the stock market was in the toilet on the morning of the 9th. What is the Dow at today, stupid? 1,900 plus?

#103 | Posted by wisgod at 2016-11-22 01:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Now the left is crying that he won't lock her up? Man, do snowflakes make you cry when they land on you?

#7 | Posted by wisgod

No the left is laughing that you got conned so hard.

There is not a single thing trump has ever said that you can count on him following through with, just like us smarter people told you before you voted.

#104 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-11-22 01:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Why we have the Nooner.

#101 | Posted by Corky

Oh, that only works when you try to sell it, Vince Offer? You po' boys sure look stupid when you shoot your mouths off.

#105 | Posted by wisgod at 2016-11-22 01:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Pretty stupid talk considering what a dud Obama's hallmark Heath Care plan is.

#102 | Posted by wisgod

Yeah cause trump says so? He also said he'd prosecute clinton.

Tell the people whose lives have been saved that obamacare is a dud.

But like all conservatives, if it didn't help YOU, then that's all you care about.

#106 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-11-22 01:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

There is not a single thing trump has ever said that you can count on him following through with, just like us smarter people told you before you voted.

#103 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

Yeah, the smart people that told us on the right what a landslide it would be. Go sit at the Children's table with JPW and Corky. Zed is bringing the Crow Pot Pie.

#107 | Posted by wisgod at 2016-11-22 01:28 PM | Reply

But like all conservatives, if it didn't help YOU, then that's all you care about.

#105 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

But like all Lefties, you want me to pay for your subsidies.

#108 | Posted by wisgod at 2016-11-22 01:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No, it's a case of loading up the supreme court for a generation. Sucks, donut?

#99 | Posted by wisgod

So we can get more policies and rulings like Citizens or Hobby Lobby?

Then again you probably liked those rulings because, well, you're an idiot.

Pretty stupid talk considering what a dud Obama's hallmark Heath Care plan is.

No, what's stupid talk is claiming the ACA means the same fiscal policies that led to the 2008 recession are suddenly going to work.

Christ you're stupid.

#109 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 01:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

No the left is laughing that you got conned so hard.

No, they didn't get conned.

To hear them explain it, they didn't have any expectations from Trump to follow through on any of his rhetoric.

Well, except for the rhetoric they want him to follow through on, which of course he actually will because they want him to.

We're seeing an unveiling of some of the most vacuous cranial cavities ever known to exist.

#110 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 01:32 PM | Reply

Go sit at the Children's table with JPW and Corky.

So the two tables in the room is the children's table and the retard's table?

Stay proud, moron.

#111 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 01:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

it's a case of loading up the supreme court for a generation

Loading the Supreme Court?

The only seat available is Scalia's.

If Trump appoints another Scalia. It's a wash.

Based on his cabinet selections. He's most likely going to nominate Joseph Goebbels.

If Obama had done his job. Instead of gambling the seat in order to force people to vote for Hillary. You'd have nothing.

But. If republicans have taught democrats anything. It's obstruction. Who knows if we'll ever get another judge on the Supreme Court.

#112 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-11-22 01:33 PM | Reply

So the two tables in the room is the children's table and the retard's table?
Posted by jpw

Yeah, one for you rear end and one for your head. I'll bet you'll have trouble figuring out what goes where.

#113 | Posted by wisgod at 2016-11-22 01:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Clownshack, you're not stupid. How long do you think Ruth Bader Ginsburg is going to serve? Until she's Zed's age?

#114 | Posted by wisgod at 2016-11-22 01:36 PM | Reply

Yeah, one for you rear end and one for your head.

Save a seat for my head at the retard table.

Listening to you talk will at least provide me entertainment.

Actually, scratch that.

Save a seat for my ass. It speaks Trumpsupporterese quite fluently.

#115 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 01:37 PM | Reply

Trump lies again, moron trump voters cheer. Going to be a long four years for thinking people.

#116 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2016-11-22 01:40 PM | Reply

How long do you think Ruth Bader Ginsburg is going to serve?

Untill she dies.

Which. People seem to be doing later and later in life every year.

For now. She's trying to make it through the next 4 years.

#117 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-11-22 01:41 PM | Reply

Maybe as others have alluded this is intended to convince Obama not to do a preemptive pardon. We need to start pursuing justice from those on top just as we do the little people. Hillary and the Clintons need to be charged if the evidence is there.

#118 | Posted by Robson at 2016-11-22 01:45 PM | Reply

#63

youtu.be

#119 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2016-11-22 01:47 PM | Reply

Hillary and the Clintons need to be charged if the evidence is there.

If the evidence was there she would have already been charged.

It's not for a lack of trying that she free.

It's the lack of anything to actually charge her with.

All the Hillary! scandal has already disappeared from the news and the lips of anyone in the federal government.

That was just the con job the republicans used to win the election.

#120 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-11-22 02:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Nobody believed trump was going to "lock her up" except for Hillary's sycophants and the SuperTrumps. It was rally rhetoric, and taunting.
And as moder8 points out, nothing changes. If more evidence is found they'll pursue. He's not pardoning her for crying out loud.

I don't get some of you partisans. Everybody knows campaign rhetoric and promises are all bull and bluster to fire up people. They shouldn't all be taken seriously even if you really wanted to believe them anyway.

At least trumps outrageous crap is entertaining. The other politicians outrageous lies and promises are insultingly dull and just as transparent.

#121 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2016-11-22 02:09 PM | Reply

Primarily, Trump was not elected for what he promised to do or not to do, but because he wasn't Hillary. As long as he stays not Hillary, he's golden.

#122 | Posted by visitor_ at 2016-11-22 02:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Let's read the fine print on Hillary's pardon from Obama.

#123 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2016-11-22 02:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Catching up on comments on social media over this. I honestly believe the left is more pissed off Trump broke his promise than the right is. It's almost comical.

#124 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2016-11-22 02:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"Yeah, but paying attention during the election, one would have thought the Marks cared deeply about Hillary being locked up."

Is what she did illegal was debated to death here. I contended that whether it was illegal or not, it showed he judgement to be extraordinarily poor. For that(one) reason I didn't think she should be President.

So the fact that she is not is probably enough for most people who thought that her actions were not right.

#125 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2016-11-22 02:47 PM | Reply

I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Duhr

#12 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

And yet you still voted for the liar. Double Duhr

#126 | Posted by Sycophant at 2016-11-22 02:57 PM | Reply

Is what she did illegal was debated to death here. I contended that whether it was illegal or not, it showed he judgement to be extraordinarily poor. For that(one) reason I didn't think she should be President.

#124 | POSTED BY KWRX25

So we elected the guy who definitely should not be president over the woman who likely shouldn't be president.

#127 | Posted by Sycophant at 2016-11-22 02:58 PM | Reply

I honestly believe the left is more pissed off Trump broke his promise than the right is.

You people are certifiable.

And it's not that the left is pissed he broke his promise. Hardly.

It's more the brazen display of just how badly the right is populated by brain dead sheep.

#128 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 03:01 PM | Reply

The only actual quote I've read from Trump on this matter is "no" in response to questioning if prosecution of Hillary is off the table.

Go figure.

#129 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2016-11-22 03:03 PM | Reply

OK. You want words from the President Elect himself. I'll give the link a try:

www.breitbart.com

#130 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2016-11-22 03:07 PM | Reply

Good ploy, actually. Say you won't prosecute her as a counter to Obama pardoning her for crimes she hadn't been charged with. Then, once sworn in, the FBI can determine if there is enough evidence to recommend prosecution and the DOJ can make the determination, while Trump can say "I was willing to let her go, but this new evidence showed up...."

#131 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2016-11-22 03:07 PM | Reply

And yet you still voted for the liar. Double Duhr

Posted by Sycophant at 2016-11-22 02:57 PM | Reply

SEE Yet again you have NO CLUE. Typical of you. I voted for Jill Stein.

#132 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2016-11-22 03:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#124 | POSTED BY KWRX25
So we elected the guy who definitely should not be president over the woman who likely shouldn't be president.

#126 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2016-11-22 02:58 PM | FLAG: 

You can take it that way Syco... That seems to be the tact most who supported her are taking... Taking one point someone points out as to why she wasn't a good choice for them, and then pointing at Trump.

I didn't say I supported him, stick to my point. Which was, there were people out there that thought her email server issue showed very bad judgement. It also showed her contempt for those that questioned her, and her utter disregard for respecting our intelligence with her "with a cloth" comment. Was this illegal? I don't know really, but it was a(one) reason she shouldn't be president.

NOW put this into context of Trump not following through on criminal charges... For most of us, we viewed this as non presidential and maybe not criminal. So do I need this issue pushed to it's extreme conclusion? No. She isn't President and it isn't going to be. It can end there, and be well enough.

Nowhere in there is there any weighing of would we be better off with her as President and not Trump. It's a non-starter as that isn't the reality. So I can step back and only look at what I cared about in the scope of just the email server issue.

#133 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2016-11-22 03:15 PM | Reply

Yea well I will warn you if Hillary and the foundation are not investigated they will only get worse and commit more crimes.

Hillery and her daughter will be back running for office again.

#134 | Posted by tmaster at 2016-11-22 03:23 PM | Reply

#82 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 01:01 PM
On issues where Trump flips on his campaign rhetoric, and it's actually a more sane position than the campaign rhetoric, and his base doesn't seem to care, I'm not going to feel particularly worked up about it one way or the other. On those issues where he lied about campaign promises and it's worse, (drain the swamp for ex.), I agree their noses should be rubbed in the hypocrisy.

#135 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2016-11-22 03:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Take it up with them, Zedesta.

#84 | Posted by wisgod at 2016-11-22 01:03 PMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

Hail, Victory, Herr Bormann.

#136 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-22 04:02 PM | Reply

Zed is bringing the Crow Pot Pie.

#106 | Posted by wisgod at 2016-11-22 01:28 PMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

I can still be thankful I'm not a Nazi or, more sad yet, some cheese-headed wannabe.

#137 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-22 04:04 PM | Reply

It's more the brazen display of just how badly the right is populated by brain dead sheep.

#127 | Posted by jpw

Yeah, you people are the smartest in the room. Protesting like 2 year olds for 2 weeks and wondering how the hell you keep getting shellacked.

#138 | Posted by wisgod at 2016-11-22 04:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Protesting like 2 year olds for 2 weeks

#137 | Posted by wisgod at 2016-11-22 04:13 PM | Reply

A punk is president. It's the government you deserve, not the rest of us.

#139 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-22 04:23 PM | Reply

I disagree, zed, we kinda earned trump collectively.

#140 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2016-11-22 04:39 PM | Reply

we kinda earned trump collectively.

#139 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2016-11

I've got loved ones the Alt Right wants to see in ovens.

They don't deserve that; I don't deserve that.

We've already seen enough fascists salutes to last a lifetime.

#141 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-22 04:50 PM | Reply

We are a very immature country, zed...it's not a surprise our president elect reflects that.

The far left has their safe spaces, trigger words, and safety pins.
The far right is a bunch of white nationalists and wannabes.
The center voted against itself economically, again, because it felt ignored since it didn't get everything it wanted for xmas.
Last and least is the ugliest group of children, those that don't follow politics or vote at all.

#142 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2016-11-22 05:05 PM | Reply

Everybody knows campaign rhetoric and promises are all bull and bluster to fire up people.

I take issue with your use of the word "everybody" in that sentence.

Otherwise. I agree.

Also, let's not pretend righties didn't bring up any and all of Obama campaign promises he didn't fulfill.

#143 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-11-22 05:14 PM | Reply

"Also, let's not pretend righties didn't bring up any and all of Obama campaign promises he didn't fulfill."

The funny thing about that was they didn't want him to fulfill any of them and fought tooth and nail against him to prevent them.

#144 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2016-11-22 05:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Yep.

Only to wake up with amnesia and forget they were the "Party of No"

Or that they shut down the government to pout.

Or that they're anti intellectual jackholes.

#145 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-11-22 05:32 PM | Reply

Chill my deplorables. It's just a ruse to deflect and distract the left stream media in an effort to get Obama to relax and not pardon her. AG Sessions will make the final call on this. If she gets the pardon, we'll never see Hitlery in a prison jump suit. Relax. Nothing to see here (yet).

#146 | Posted by Nuke_Gently at 2016-11-22 05:37 PM | Reply

This would cut both ways.

But really the one person who is ticked off is ...Bill Clinton!

#147 | Posted by MURPHY at 2016-11-22 05:47 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

But like all Lefties, you want me to pay for your subsidies.

#108 | Posted by wisgod

Like all conservatives, if the money goes to rich people, it's a tax break, if it goes to someone who needs it, it's a subsidy.

#148 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-11-22 05:54 PM | Reply

Weird news of the day:
Trump won't prosecute Clinton. Democrats outraged!

#15 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2016-11-22 11:25 AM

Bears repeating.

Hail, Victory, Herr Bormann.

#135 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2016-11-22 04:02 PM

Certainly didn't take ZhD long to prove Godwin right...well done "Dr."

#149 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2016-11-22 06:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

well done "Dr."

#149 | Posted by Rightocenter

Thanks. Now your opinion, my Doctorate is in---

A) History
B) Animal Husbandry
C) Classical Civilization
D) Geography
E) Political Science
F) Children's Literature

Before committing yourself, realize that some people-only the very elite-have more than one Ph.D.

#150 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-22 07:05 PM | Reply

#149 | Posted by Rightocenter at

A man who employs Nazis might be a Nazi himself. Stop pretending you supported a normal human being.

#151 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-22 07:06 PM | Reply

-A man who employs Nazis might be a Nazi himself.

What Nazis does Trump employ, Doc Godwin?

#152 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-22 07:26 PM | Reply

What Nazis does Trump employ, Doc Godwin?

#152 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

He doesn't. And ZhD (TM) knows that, but he can't help himself.

#153 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 07:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump continues to hire and elevate Steve Bannon. I guess if you're fundamentally sympathetic to the Alt Right you'd naturally have an objection to the description Nazis.

Maybe Bannon isn't a traditonal Nazi? Maybe he's closer in spirit to some Rumanian fascist in the 1930s? Who cares? If you behave like a pig there's every reason to suspect that you are one.

#154 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-22 07:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I don't like Bannon but he's nowhere near what you are portraying him as, Zed.

#155 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 07:39 PM | Reply

#155 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 07

I've read what he's published. I'll stick to my guns.

#156 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-22 07:41 PM | Reply

I love the casual way in which you throw about the term "Nazi". As if there is anything in his background to remotely suggest that he's in favor of exterminating an entire race or an entire religion out of fealty to Eugenics/Party/Socio-pathology.

#157 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 07:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#155

In his writings does he fantasize about concentration camps? Shoving groups of people into human ovens to be exterminated? is that what you inferred from his writings? If not, you have NO clue what "Nazi" actually means.

#158 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 07:43 PM | Reply

I miss the nulli that didn't ------- donald trump in every thread.

As to Bannon, he may not be an actual nazi, but he's a racist nutjob.

#159 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2016-11-22 07:44 PM | Reply

Hey jeff- what do you think calling Kristol a "renegade jew" is paving the path to? Breitbart is normalizing anti-Semitism to the right wing and normal folk are scared by that.

#160 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2016-11-22 07:47 PM | Reply

-I miss the nulli that didn't ------- donald trump in every thread.

Ann Arbor resident?

#161 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-22 07:52 PM | Reply

If not, you have NO clue what "Nazi" actually means.

#158 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 07:43 PM | Reply

People like Bannon have been attempting to soften the edges around fascism to make it seem more palatable to American tastes. I really like the flag which bears a large swastika against a green field. Supposed to suggest that fascists are eco-conscious.

Bannon uses modern white-supremacist, neo-fascist iconography on his website. Explain that.

#162 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-22 07:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What's wrong with Ann Arbor? You'd like it there, pot all over.

But no, I live elsewhere.

#163 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2016-11-22 07:54 PM | Reply

There's a lot about Bannon I disagree with.

You operate under a false-premise.

That he has certain tendencies that are disturbing is a FAR-cry from Nazi concentration camps.

These Nazi/Hitler comparisons are BEYOND stupid.

Certain elements of the left embrace Socialism, even Communism. Does that mean they seek to murder 20 million non-conformers via manufactured famine and gulags?

Jesus H. Christ! Get some fricking perspective.

#164 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 07:56 PM | Reply

Hey jeff- what do you think calling Kristol a "renegade jew" is paving the path to? Breitbart is normalizing anti-Semitism to the right wing and normal folk are scared by that.

#160 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

#165 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 07:58 PM | Reply

Jeff- so you cant call out nazi until the camps are finished and full.

Thanks for clearing that up.

#166 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2016-11-22 07:58 PM | Reply

Hey jeff- what do you think calling Kristol a "renegade jew" is paving the path to? Breitbart is normalizing anti-Semitism to the right wing and normal folk are scared by that.

#160 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

Anti-Semitism has long been a problem. For all of the concern over "Islamophobia", Jews remain the most targeted group for 'hate-crimes' in this country. Anti-Semitism exists on both the left and the right.

#167 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 07:58 PM | Reply

--What's wrong with Ann Arbor?

I have no idea. According to Comrade Bo, it's a Nazi death camp

Probably an exaggeration.

#168 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-22 08:00 PM | Reply

Jeff- so you cant call out nazi until the camps are finished and full.
Thanks for clearing that up.

#166 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

That you think Nazi Camps are a real possibility under a Republican President in this country.....the closest we ever had was internment camps under FDR. And for as horrible as that was - a VERY dark stain on our history - they were still not even remotely close to concentration camps.

#169 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 08:00 PM | Reply

In many ways the "alt-right" is a rebranding of classic white nationalism for the 21st century. As BuzzFeed described the movement: "In short, it's white supremacy perfectly tailored for our times: 4chan-esque racist rhetoric combined with a tinge of Silicon Valley–flavored philosophizing, all riding on the coattails of the Trump boom."

The "alt-right" opposes diversity and immigration, arguing that those policies are a form of "white genocide." It embraces racism, sexism, anti-Muslim bigotry, and anti-Semitism and sees its goal as usurping the traditional conservative movement, which it views as feckless and weak, in favor of a brand of nationalism.

OLIVER WILLIS, 08/2016

#170 | Posted by Zed at 2016-11-22 08:02 PM | Reply

Alt Right is atrocious. It's also such an extreme fringe that it's basically irrelevant.

#171 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 08:04 PM | Reply

you have NO clue what "Nazi" actually means.

#158 | Posted by JeffJ

There is a dictionary definition, but it means many things to many people.

To some, it means authoritarians who want a massive military buildup, and who pledge to return the nation to previous glory, who blame economic problems on immigrants and minorities, who say "only we can save the country", who have angry passionate followers willing to commit violence if commanded...

Sound like anyone in the news lately?

#172 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-11-22 08:05 PM | Reply

Alt Right is atrocious. It's also such an extreme fringe that it's basically irrelevant.

#171 | Posted by JeffJ

Down the hall from the oval office is "Basically irrelevant?"

#173 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-11-22 08:05 PM | Reply

I don't care what it means to "some".

I know what the holocaust was.

I don't like Bannon. Not in the least. But he's not for mass-incineration of people based upon their race, religious beliefs, etc.

#174 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 08:07 PM | Reply

Bannon isn't "Alt-right', Speaks. He sucks, but he's not that.

At worst, he's a white version of Sharpton, and quite frankly, he's not even that bad.

#175 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 08:08 PM | Reply

I used to hit the Retort on it's main page for entertainment. Now I hit Gonoles' blog and click every topic he's in.

It's like watching a ------' train wreck itself in slow motion, declare itself not wrecked, and somehow wreck even worse.

Repeatedly.

This guy has got to be Rogers running a parody account.

#176 | Posted by soheifox at 2016-11-22 09:00 PM | Reply

Bannon isn't "Alt-right', Speaks. He sucks, but he's not that.

At worst, he's a white version of Sharpton, and quite frankly, he's not even that bad.

#175 | Posted by JeffJ

You'll have to tell Bannon that. He's claimed the "alt right" mantle proudly in the past.

And sharpton at least tries to help the underprivileged and pursue equality and justice in a racist system, even if he's self-promotional in doing so.

Bannon thinks the underprivileged need to just go away and equality is a communist concept. He's not in it for fame or glory like sharpton, he really thinks the cruel market should dictate our lives.

The behind the scenes guys are usually much more evil than the glory hogs.

#177 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-11-22 09:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Pretty stupid talk considering what a dud Obama's hallmark Heath Care plan is.

#103 | POSTED BY WISGOD AT 2016-11-22 01:25 PM | REPLY | FLAG

Now that I moved to a state where compassionate humans run it instead of backwards hillbillies, Obama's "hallmark health care plan" has given the state money to extend us the Medical Card, and that has gotten my severely mentally handicapped son the help he needs.

Some "dud", -------.

#178 | Posted by soheifox at 2016-11-22 09:02 PM | Reply

www.rightwingwatch.org

#179 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2016-11-22 09:08 PM | Reply

www.rightwingwatch.org

Bannon is alt right and a racist, jeff

#180 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2016-11-22 09:13 PM | Reply

-Bannon is alt right and a racist, jeff

Or you're a goofy Cintonite. Who knows?

#181 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-22 09:18 PM | Reply

Very unconvincing link, Alex.

Bannon has ne real record of being personally alt-right and racist.

Under his control, Breitbart absolutely gave a nod and a wink to alt-right, in 'dog-whistle' fashion. In short, Bannon (and Trump) pulled a page right out of the Democratic Party's identity-politics playbook.

Is it disgusting and worthy of criticism? Absolutely! But it's just the other side of the Democratic Party's identity-politics coin.

#182 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 09:19 PM | Reply

Nulli- you've ------- lost it if you think i'm s clintonite. I left the party because of Bill in the 90s. You've become a complete trump tool.

jeff- what proof do you require?! the guy calls himself alt right and cites anti-semitic books for ----- sake, does he have to put a swastika between his eyes like charles manson?

#183 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2016-11-22 09:25 PM | Reply

Is it disgusting and worthy of criticism? Absolutely! But it's just the other side of the Democratic Party's identity-politics coin.

#182 | Posted by JeffJ

Again, the dems are fighting for the politically weak against the politically strong.
Bannon is helping the strong beat up the weak.

Similar, but morally totally different.

#184 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-11-22 09:25 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"it's just the other side of the Democratic Party's identity-politics coin."

Even you don't believe that.

#185 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-11-22 09:32 PM | Reply

Alex,

I have seen nothing that casts him in the light that you are portraying, and that includes the "rightwingwatch" link you provided that was guilt by association and little more.

Don't get me wrong. I strongly dislike Bannon. I think it was a mistake to tap him for such an influential position. Having said all of that, he's not the devil-incarnate. He just isn't.

#186 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 09:34 PM | Reply

Even you don't believe that.

#185 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

I absolutely do believe that.

#187 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 09:35 PM | Reply

m.motherjones.com

""We're the platform for the alt-right," Bannon told me proudly when I interviewed him at the Republican National Convention (RNC) in July."

refute this, jeff.

#188 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2016-11-22 09:36 PM | Reply

You were once someone worth talking to, nulli.

#190 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2016-11-22 09:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I'm not refuting much of anything. Bannon sucks. He's the Yin to Obama/Sharpton's Yang. Disgusting across the board.

It is fun to witness 'Mother Jones' quote Ben Shapiro as if they actually have any regard for his opinion other than confirmation bias.

#191 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 09:42 PM | Reply

So hes not alt right, jeff?

yes or no

#192 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2016-11-22 09:43 PM | Reply

Nulli is still worth talking to, Alex.

Now, more than ever.

Granted, calling you a "Democrat or a Clintonite" is just not accurate. But, going back to last night, you threw the first dart.

#193 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 09:43 PM | Reply

So admitting hes alt right and that the website he runs is a platform for the alt right...is "guilt by association"?

You should probably stop digging now.

#194 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2016-11-22 09:44 PM | Reply

I don't think he's personally alt-right. I think he is more than happy to nod and wink to alt-right for cynical, identity-political gain, just like the Democratic Party has been successfully doing for the past 3 decades or so.

#195 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 09:45 PM | Reply

Geez can't we all just get along??? I remember a time when we weren't so bitchy towards one another. Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

#196 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2016-11-22 09:47 PM | Reply

I'm not digging at all. He's a white Al Sharpton.

#197 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 09:49 PM | Reply

We're getting along just fine, Laura.

Alex and I are debating - I bear no animus toward him.

#198 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 09:50 PM | Reply

Al sharpton wasnt a chief strategist of the white house!

I quit, right wingers are just immune to facts now.

#199 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2016-11-22 09:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Al Sharpton was Obama's point man on racial issues. He was a frequent visitor to the White House.

Having said that, you raise a fine point - he wasn't a member of Obama's cabinet. So, my comparison is not quite apples/apples.

#200 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 09:56 PM | Reply

I predict that the congressional investigations into Hillary will also quickly wither. They were never about any real belief that the Clinton's did anything illegal. They were just about destroying her. That was accomplished so it ends now. Any chance of a single congressional committed investigating any of the real traitorous behavior of our president elect? I think not.

#201 | Posted by mad_as_hell at 2016-11-22 09:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Having acknowledged that, Eric Holder was Sharpton-Lite.

#202 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 09:57 PM | Reply

Geez can't we all just get along??? I remember a time when we weren't so bitchy towards one another. Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

F--- you, Laura.

:)

#203 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 10:12 PM | Reply

F--- you, Laura.

:)

Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 10:12 PM | Reply

I'll pencil you in for next Monday.

#204 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2016-11-22 10:13 PM | Reply

You guys (and gals) are funny.

Good stuff!

#205 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 10:16 PM | Reply

www.nydailynews.com

"Donald Trump's campaign CEO Stephen Bannon was branded an anti-Semite by the same ex-wife who claimed he choked her, court documents reveal.

Mary Louise Piccard said in a 2007 court declaration that Bannon didn't want their twin daughters attending the Archer School for Girls in Los Angeles because many Jewish students were enrolled at the elite institution.

"The biggest problem he had with Archer is the number of Jews that attend," Piccard said in her statement signed on June 27, 2007.

"He said that he doesn't like the way they raise their kids to be 'whiny brats' and that he didn't want the girls going to school with Jews," Piccard wrote."

#206 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2016-11-22 10:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

Nazi is so 20th century. Trump will create all sorts of new evil

#207 | Posted by truthhurts at 2016-11-22 10:37 PM | Reply

Alex,

He was also instrumental in desegregating Alabama schools and successfully got the death sentence for a KKK member.

I don't want him to be the next AG. On this we agree. But he's NOT some kind of Hitler incarnate no matter how many hit-pieces you source.

#208 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 10:42 PM | Reply

Jeff - Are you confusing Sessions with Bannon?

#209 | Posted by YAV at 2016-11-22 10:47 PM | Reply

yea he is

#210 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2016-11-22 10:49 PM | Reply

That says it all, really. So many ---- racists they all blend together.

#211 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2016-11-22 10:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

#211 - so undeniable, so crystal clear, and yet the massive denial continues. It's so weird to watch.

#212 | Posted by YAV at 2016-11-22 11:09 PM | Reply

Yav,

Not confusing the two.

Multi tasking and inadvertently conflating the two.

#213 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 11:14 PM | Reply

Your conflating confused me :)

#214 | Posted by YAV at 2016-11-22 11:22 PM | Reply

"Al Sharpton was Obama's point man on racial issues."

--------.

#215 | Posted by Angrydad at 2016-11-22 11:37 PM | Reply

No, it actually happened and is well-documented, Dad.

I get that you are angry. I hope that by pointing out the truth to you doesn't result in you dragging me behind the woodshed.

#216 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 11:39 PM | Reply

No, it actually happened and is well-documented, Dad.

2 questions:

a. Beyond the racial issues, are they at all similar?

b. Do you think they have equal power in pushing racial agendas given Bannon is a member of the current majority (numbers wise) and institutional power?

#217 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 11:45 PM | Reply

2 questions:
a. Beyond the racial issues, are they at all similar?
b. Do you think they have equal power in pushing racial agendas given Bannon is a member of the current majority (numbers wise) and institutional power?

#217 | POSTED BY JPW

Those are great questions that cannot possibly be answered today. The Trump presidency is an open-book. We can speculate, conjecture, fear-monger, cult-worship, etc...but we don't truly know what is going to happen especially with so many other powers floating around that can check his aspirations.

I hate that answer. I feel like it's a cop-out. But I can't judge his presidency based upon predictions. As you well know, I don't have high aspirations. I was staunchly opposed to him in the primary and I refused to vote for him (or Hillary) in the General. I'm in 'wait and see' mode, for the most part.

#218 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 11:55 PM | Reply

The Trump presidency is an open-book. We can speculate, conjecture, fear-monger, cult-worship, etc...but we don't truly know what is going to happen especially with so many other powers floating around that can check his aspirations.

I think it's a mistake to focus on him.

For Trump, I agree with your post.

For the GOP who now control government and will likely seat a few SCOTUS justices I think we can safely speculate, throw out conjecture and assume there will be cult worship by at least 28% of the electorate.

They're going to try and run the same failed playbook as they have before and I don't see much hope in thinking Trump will limit them. What Trump adds to the mix is an unknown.

My major concern over Bannon isn't so much his anti-semetic and racial issues (which are BIG issues, don't get me wrong...) but his experience in running a "news" organization and knowing how to pull people's strings, potentially giving the GOP an ability to ---- us over like they did in 2000-2008 but with a much slicker PR arm to avoid the consequences.

#219 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-23 12:16 AM | Reply

"I miss the nulli that didn't fellate donald trump in every thread."

Me too. I think Nulli has been hanging around with Mackris and swilling the koolaid too much.

#220 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2016-11-23 12:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Really? The only people I saw voicing a strong opinion on it were anti.

Or at least they were before today.

On election night when it was clear Trump had one, several DR posters said Hillary had better leave the country to avoid prosecution:

"She needs to flee the nation. I expect Trump to put a no holds barred investigation into her and she will get locked up."

I doubt he'll do that. Why bother? She's never going to run for office again. Unless he's all about the hate and wants to distract from his lack of workable policies.

Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2016-11-08 11:43 PM | Reply

I was told that he needed to prosecute her make an example of her and to prove no one is above the law. Sorry I can't find the original post, which seems to have been deleted but only my response to it:

#574 Got it. It is certainly a task Attorney General Giuliani will savor performing.

Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2016-11-08 11:50 PM | Reply

www.drudge.com

#221 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2016-11-23 12:27 AM | Reply

#221 - Trump prosecuting Hillary for "crimes" that never happened (despite how much the Hilliary haters just have to, no need to believe happened, is beyond hypocritical and hilariously blind given Trump's "Foundation" just admitted they routinely broke the law, Trump won't divest his personal interests, is already using the Office of President to get favors done by foreign governments.

It was pointed out (repeatedly) that when Trump points his finger and accuses, what he was saying is "I'm the one that's actually doing it, you fools!"

#222 | Posted by YAV at 2016-11-23 06:39 AM | Reply

Breitbart absolutely gave a nod and a wink to alt-right,... But it's just the other side of the Democratic Party's identity-politics coin. -- #182 | Posted by JeffJ

Well, yes, in the same way that morally reprehensible is the other side of ethical and just.

#223 | Posted by Phoenix at 2016-11-23 06:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Very impressive. Trump appears to be a statesman after all.
#31 | POSTED BY VISITOR_ AT 2016-11-22 11:51 AM"

More likely a shrewd politician.

The threat has already served its purpose.
There's no need to expend political capital carrying out the threat.
In fact, there's always the danger that HRC might even become a martyr.
Martyrs are impossible to defeat.

No, it's much more useful to maintain HRC in her present political position.
Rather like the abortion issue. It's much more useful for the GOP to keep it in its present status.
That's why they didn't overturn it the last time the GOP had is amount of control of the government.

#224 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2016-11-23 11:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump Won't Lock Her Up

"There's a sucker born every minute." -- P.T. Barnum

#225 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2016-11-23 05:29 PM | Reply

But like all Lefties, you want me to pay for your subsidies.

#108 | POSTED BY WISGOD AT 2016-11-22 01:29 PM | FLAG: CONSUMED ALL OF TODAYS STUPID

Yeah... I'm sure that is what all those red state socialists tell themselves This election was a referendumb on stupid of the boohoo righty tightys hissy fit about having to pay for that war they were so hot for... because it didn;t pay for itself.

#226 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2016-11-23 09:34 PM | Reply

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