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Tuesday, November 22, 2016

Pope Francis has declared that abortion, which remains a "grave sin" in the eyes of the Catholic Church, can be absolved by ordinary priests for the foreseeable future -- instead of requiring the intervention of a bishop. "I wish to restate as firmly as I can that abortion is a grave sin, since it puts an end to an innocent life," the pope wrote in the letter. "In the same way, however, I can and must state that there is no sin that God's mercy cannot reach and wipe away when it finds a repentant heart seeking to be reconciled with the Father. May every priest, therefore, be a guide, support and comfort to penitents on this journey of special reconciliation."

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The change was implemented on a temporary basis, for one year only, as part of the Catholic Church's "Year of Mercy," which began last December and ended on Sunday. In a letter released on Monday, the pope announced that the change was being extended indefinitely.

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And why does anyone care what the guy in the funny hat says?

#1 | Posted by asshat at 2016-11-21 08:48 PM | Reply

This is a huge deal in Catholicism, for those of you who are only casual observers of the largest organization in the world the magnitude of this decision cannot be understated.

#2 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2016-11-21 08:48 PM | Reply

And why does anyone care what the guy in the funny hat says?

#1 | POSTED BY ASSHAT AT 2016-11-21 08:48 PM

There are almost 1.3 Billion people that care very much what Pope Francis has to say, so roughly the population of China.

#3 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2016-11-21 08:51 PM | Reply

He can rot in hell for all I care.

#4 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2016-11-21 08:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Add the rest of Christianity to that (about 900 million people) in varying degrees and that is about 1/3 of the world's population.

#5 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2016-11-21 08:53 PM | Reply

#4

Just curious Laura, is that directed at Francis himself, the institution of the Papacy or at the Catholic Church as a whole?

#6 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2016-11-21 08:57 PM | Reply

Just curious Laura, is that directed at Francis himself, the institution of the Papacy or at the Catholic Church as a whole?

Posted by Rightocenter at 2016-11-21 08:57 PM | Reply

Just Pope Francis.

www.lgbtqnation.com

Pope Francis denounces transgender people as ‘annihilation of man'

#7 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2016-11-21 08:58 PM | Reply

I am aware of those remarks (my uncle went through sexual reassignment surgery in 1985 yet is still a devout Catholic) and know that they were disappointing to your community, especially in light of his earlier comments regarding the community as a whole that "we are all god's creatures."

Not that it is an excuse, but Austen Ivereigh, the author of "The Great Reformer," a biography of Pope Francis, has said the pontiff also has a track record of reaching out to transgender people and telling them they are "children of God and part of the church."

Perhaps the best-known example was in early 2015, when a Spanish daily reported that Francis had invited a transgender man to the Vatican after he wrote that he had been rejected by his parish. The man, Diego Neria Lejarraga, later said the experience "changed my life."

Mr. Ivereigh said the pontiff's remarks last week represented no prejudice toward transgender people, but rather a rejection of so-called gender ideology.

"His view is that gender is a gift of God -- it's part of the created world," Mr. Ivereigh said. "And that gender ideology, which says that gender is something that you can choose and select, is an abstract ideology which doesn't correspond to that human reality."

Don't forget, the Roman Catholic Church has existed longer than any government in human history, and while its faults are massive you can't change that type of inertia overnight...incremental change takes decades, if not centuries.

#8 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2016-11-21 09:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#7 | LAURAMOHR

Don't let your hatred become the 'annihilation of Laura' my friend.

#9 | Posted by Whizzo at 2016-11-21 09:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Don't let your hatred become the 'annihilation of Laura' my friend.

Posted by Whizzo at 2016-11-21 09:51 PM | Reply

Thank You my great friend. Point well taken.

#10 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2016-11-21 09:55 PM | Reply

"There are almost 1.3 Billion people that care very much what Pope Francis has to say, so roughly the population of China."

No there are almost 1.3 billion who identify as Catholics, of that 1.3 billion, millions use birth control, live out their sexuality as they see fit and basically ignore what the Pope says. I know, I was one of them for a long time, not any more though. If so many really cared what the Pope says the abortion issue wouldn't even be an issue.

#11 | Posted by danni at 2016-11-22 01:45 AM | Reply

" and while its faults are massive you can't change that type of inertia overnight...incremental change takes decades, if not centuries."

And the lives of individuals are just unimportant.

#12 | Posted by danni at 2016-11-22 01:46 AM | Reply

There are almost 1.3 Billion people that care very much what Pope Francis has to say ...

As someone who was raised Catholic, I think it's more accurate to say that half of those 1.3 billion care very much, 325 million care some and 325 million just want a nice Christmas mass and a Notre Dame win on Saturday.

I like it when a church treats its edicts as if they were carved in stone brought down from the mountain, then later has a big rethink when the latest church attendance reports come in. LOOK AT THIS NEW STONE TABLET WE FOUND!

#13 | Posted by rcade at 2016-11-22 09:18 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

-There are almost 1.3 Billion people that care very much what Pope Francis has to say ...

It's way more than that.

Most Christian faiths look towards the Catholic Church for direction....doesn't mean they follow it.

But what the Pope says is recognized by a lot of people.

#14 | Posted by eberly at 2016-11-22 09:23 AM | Reply

Rightocenter, I appreciate your commentary on this thread. This is indeed a big deal for Catholics. I was raised Catholic myself, and while I am happily lapsed today, many others, including my mom and her siblings and many of my friends, will see this as a significant expression of mercy. So be it.

#15 | Posted by cbob at 2016-11-22 11:03 AM | Reply

but! but! That negates the reason the so-called Christian evangelicals voted for Trump in the first place (Roe v. Wade negation).
Well, that and their inability to tell when a person is lying...continuously.

#16 | Posted by e1g1 at 2016-11-22 11:26 AM | Reply

This is a compassionate recognition of a painful reality. Instead spewing fire and brimstone, Pope Francis offers forgiveness and understanding.

#17 | Posted by moder8 at 2016-11-22 11:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A little behind the times.

The very scripture they use makes clear there is no intercessor between man and God beside the one Jesus, who is the Christ.

Thus, the priests didn't even need this power granted to them, nor does one have to go to a priest to be forgiven of the "grave sin" of abortion or anything else.

Honest repentance and faith are sufficient. The Pope should have skipped the granting of power to the priests and just stated the last statement: "I can and must state that there is no sin that God's mercy cannot reach and wipe away when it finds a repentant heart seeking to be reconciled with the Father"

Forgiveness comes through Jesus, who is the Christ, according to their scriptures - not through man.

#18 | Posted by HeuristicGratis at 2016-11-22 12:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The very scripture they use makes clear there is no intercessor between man and God beside the one Jesus, who is the Christ.

Are you sure?

Cause. The book I read said Frodo had to get the ring back to Mordor.

Can't we all just pray to Gandalf the white?

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-11-22 12:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

So, Trump can be absolved?

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2016-11-22 12:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Worst pope yet. God has clear punishments for murder they can not be forgiven.

#21 | Posted by tmaster at 2016-11-22 03:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"God has clear punishments for murder they can not be forgiven."

According to Catholic teachings, there is nothing which cannot be forgiven.

#22 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-11-22 03:28 PM | Reply

Most Christian faiths look towards the Catholic Church for direction....doesn't mean they follow it.

But what the Pope says is recognized by a lot of people.

#14 | Posted by eberly at 2016-11-22 09:23 AM | Reply:

I was raised Catholic but I always thought that Protestant denominations in particular thought of Catholics as backward idolators while holding a particular dislike for the papacy.

Particularly in the US this seemed to be true. Originally the KKK was very anti-Catholic.

#23 | Posted by Sully at 2016-11-22 03:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I haven't heard the left mention that abortion has far reaching implications on other issues other than women wanting the right of unfettered choice of abortion.

One wonders how the left will tackle it when they determine various human characteristics and conditions like LGTBQ are DNA based and women who want designer babies or blond hair and grandchildren will start having abortions if they perceive they will be having children who won't? It may not happen with publicity and regularity but it will happen in the privacy of the doctors office. When will the restrictions come?

#24 | Posted by Robson at 2016-11-22 04:17 PM | Reply

This negates the reason the so-called Christian evangelicals voted for Trump in the first place (Roe v. Wade negation).

#16 | POSTED BY E1G1

Ummm. Errr. Ummm.

Christian evangelicals aren't Catholic.

#25 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2016-11-22 04:56 PM | Reply

Good, maybe the Catholics will sell me an indulgence for sins I intend to do in the future. What is the going rate, $100 for a venal sin and $500 for a mortal one? The Roman church government has all the moral authority of a crack whore. Papal Bulls have all the impact of a snow flake still day. No body cares. These are the same crap for brains who wanted to make nice with Islam while thousands of Catholic Christians were being murdered by the Islamic State in Syria and Nigeria.

#26 | Posted by docnjo at 2016-11-22 05:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A step in the right direction toward eliminating single issue voters.

#27 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2016-11-22 05:22 PM | Reply

When the vice-president elect is to the far right of even the pope..

Pence believes that homosexuals should be forced to convert sexuality, be denied marriage and generally criminalized. He also doesn't "believe" in the theory of evolution.

It would appear that Republicans are attempting to drag the US backwards in time to a more fearful, hateful and ignorant electorate.

#28 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2016-11-24 04:27 AM | Reply

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