Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Tuesday, November 22, 2016

President-elect Donald Trump scolded media big shots during an off-the-record Trump Tower sitdown on Monday, sources told The Post. "It was like a --- firing squad," one source said of the encounter. "Trump started with [CNN chief] Jeff Zucker and said 'I hate your network, everyone at CNN is a liar and you should be ashamed,'" the source said. "The meeting was a total disaster. The TV execs and anchors went in there thinking they would be discussing the access they would get to the Trump administration, but instead they got a Trump-style dressing down," the source added. A second source confirmed the fireworks. "The meeting took place in a big board room and there were about 30 or 40 people, including the big news anchors from all the networks," the other source said. "Trump kept saying, 'We're in a room of liars, the deceitful dishonest media who got it all wrong.' He addressed everyone in the room calling the media dishonest, deceitful liars."

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The meeting was off the record, meaning the participants agreed not to talk about the substance of the conversations. The hour-long session included top execs from network and cable news channels. Among the attendees were NBC's Deborah Turness, Lester Holt and Chuck Todd, ABC's James Goldston, George Stephanopoulos, David Muir and Martha Raddatz. Also, CBS' Norah O'Donnell John Dickerson, Charlie Rose, Christopher Isham and King, Fox News' Bill Shine, Jack Abernethy, Jay Wallace, Suzanne Scott, MSNBC's Phil Griffin and CNN's Jeff Zucker and Erin Burnett.

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The reality tv show known as President-elect Trump seemingly continues unabated towards its inevitable demise. When an elected official feels it perfectly normal to upbraid news networks and reporters for exercising their 1st Amendment rights by reporting what was thought to be true at a particular moment in time that later ends in a different conclusion, those seeing such a person as an authoritarian with a dictatorial complex are well within historical definitions of similar behavior.

Donald Trump is controlled by nothing but for his own ego, hubris, and incredibly thin skin. This nation is a sitting duck for other nation's astute leaders or cointell to play to his obvious character flaws and personal weaknesses toward who knows what ends. This will not end well.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2016-11-21 06:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

To describe this loon as unhinged is too charitable.
He was never hinged.

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-11-21 06:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-everyone at CNN is a liar

Awesome.

"I just tell the truth about them and they think it's Hell."

--Harry Truman

#3 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-21 06:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Their Clinton cheerleading was pathetic.
So is the hysteria they're currently selling.
David Axelrod pointed it out (the print side) on CNN.

Erin Burnett is unwatchable enough without her Trump hysteria, but the levels she takes it to are ridiculous the chicken little routine you guys and the media do only muddies the water for when he does do something beyond the pale. With you clowns it's a constant drumbeat of faux scandal and faux outrage. You should really tone that down. It's unbecoming...

#4 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2016-11-21 06:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Wow... Donald calling other people liars?

That's like the pot calling the kettle hot... or something.

He's the Energizer Bunny of liars.... the Guinness World Book Lying record holder.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2016-11-21 06:43 PM | Reply

-George Stephanopoulos

His wife promised they would move out of the country if Trump won. What are they waiting for?

#6 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-21 06:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I was physically engaged in a series of fisticuffs with president Donald trump.
-Brian Williams
#firedupon #alrokerspoolboy #marthasRaddatz
-

#7 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2016-11-21 06:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

Trump may be baiting them to tell the truth and rile up his base enough that his kids can roll out Trump TV as an alternative.

#8 | Posted by bored at 2016-11-21 06:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump can have his tantrum but he is going to have four years of these people destroying him. Good luck with that. He just threw down the gauntlet, he is going to have a rough four years.

#9 | Posted by danni at 2016-11-21 07:43 PM | Reply

- Trump TV as an alternative.

He's following Putin's Orwellian model.

State run Trump Media.... where Trump IS the state.

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2016-11-21 07:48 PM | Reply

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More projection: Trump "is a liar" who "should be ashamed." But Trump doesn't feel shame because he's a sociopath.

#11 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2016-11-21 10:49 PM | Reply

We're in a room of liars

Trump truly has no shame.

Not shocking, of course, but damn he's brazen about it.

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-21 11:37 PM | Reply

State run Trump Media.... where Trump IS the state.

Given his truthiness on Twitter I'm not holding my breath as to the veracity of Trump TV "news".

And the morons will eat it up.

#13 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-21 11:39 PM | Reply

"Not shocking, of course, but damn he's brazen about it."

Why shouldn't he be? At this point, what/who is going to stop him?

#14 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2016-11-21 11:55 PM | Reply

A working theory:
In the 1930s, FDR's political enemies controlled the newspapers. Realizing that reality, FDR was in a pinch on how he would pitch policy for major changes in government which was nearly guarunteed to be slammed by a bias press.

So what did FDR do? FDR established a direct relationship with Americans via his "fireside chats." A major upside of those fireside chats was that the press couldn't misquote or take FDR out of context as everyone was listening. FDR's popularity and credibility in his new policies benefited handsomely from his utilization of technology at the time.

Similar to FDR, President(-elect) Trump utilizes social media and video overviews of his policies to circumvent a biased press.

#15 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2016-11-21 11:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

It's hilarious you just compared Trump to FDR.

Not only are they not in the same league, it's not even the same ------- sport.

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 12:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

But American media is a bunch of liars and and are mouth pieces for the top 1 percent.

So I cant disagree totally against trump on this.

#17 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2016-11-22 12:42 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#15 I predict Trump will go 1930s old school as well and imitate Hitler's use of big political rallies. I just don't see Trump being able to give up his taste for them and for the adoration of a cheering, energized crowd.

#18 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2016-11-22 12:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"But American media is a bunch of liars and and are mouth pieces for the top 1 percent."

You are acting like the "American media" is a monolithic group, which is far from the truth.

#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2016-11-22 12:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You are acting like the "American media" is a monolithic group, which is far from the truth.

#19 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Much of the American media reside in the same bubble and engage in an awful lot of groupthink...

#20 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 12:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Not only are they not in the same league, it's not even the same ------- sport. #16 | POSTED BY JPW

The comparison was focused on the biased media landscapes surrounding both presidencies and how the presidents used technology in an innovative way to get their message across to the people who mattered most: the American citizen.

I wasn't comparing the accomplishments of President FDR and president-elect Trump, because Trump isn't even sworn in yet (lol).

#21 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2016-11-22 01:02 AM | Reply

--I predict Trump will go 1930s old school as well and imitate Hitler's use of big political rallies.

Yeah, the bigger the rally the more Nazi-like, right? The Clintonites are insanely jealous that her rallies couldn't fill a high-school gym without some celebutards.

#22 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-22 01:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#22 Nulli, I was responding to Noles post that compared Trump to FDR. That was why I made the connection to Hilter. Well, that and the fact that, according to Ivana, Trump kept a book of Hitler's speeches by his bedside table:

A working theory:
In the 1930s, FDR's political enemies controlled the newspapers. Realizing that reality, FDR was in a pinch on how he would pitch policy for major changes in government which was nearly guarunteed to be slammed by a bias press.

So what did FDR do? FDR established a direct relationship with Americans via his "fireside chats." A major upside of those fireside chats was that the press couldn't misquote or take FDR out of context as everyone was listening. FDR's popularity and credibility in his new policies benefited handsomely from his utilization of technology at the time.

Similar to FDR, President(-elect) Trump utilizes social media and video overviews of his policies to circumvent a biased press.

#15 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2016-11-21 11:55 PM | Reply | Flag

#23 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2016-11-22 01:22 AM | Reply

--I predict Trump will go 1930s old school as well and imitate Hitler's use of big political rallies.

I heard Hitler used to brush his teeth too..... I suppose any one who brushes his teeth is also a Hitler imitator.

The Clintonites are insanely jealous that her rallies couldn't fill a high-school gym without some celebutards.
#22 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

She couldn't even fill a Starbucks bathroom by herself.

You are acting like the "American media" is a monolithic group, which is far from the truth.

#19 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

You aren't paying attention, not that its only you, but I expect better on the DR.

#24 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2016-11-22 01:25 AM | Reply

You are acting like the "American media" is a monolithic group, which is far from the truth.

#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2016-11-22

oh horse poop!

6 Corporations Control 90% Of The Media In America.

That would be GE, News-corp, Disney, Viacom, Time Warner, CBS

#25 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2016-11-22 01:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Comparing Trump to FDR is hilarious. Trump inherits an economy in pretty good shape, FDR inherited an economy much more like the one Obama inherited. That's ok, Trump will crash it again and we'll need another Democrat to fix it....again. Then the idiots who voted for Bush and Trump will elect some other clown to destroy it again. It's a cycle.

#26 | Posted by danni at 2016-11-22 02:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Danni,

The comparison wasn't between Trump and FDR. It was a comparison as to how both were able to take advantage of technology to circumvent a biased media. That's it.

#27 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 02:09 AM | Reply

Wow, The Artist Formerly Known As (AFKA} Bill O'Reilly, Trumpifidian, had gone all Trump Pet All The Time.

Andrea must be good with that loofah.

#28 | Posted by Corky at 2016-11-22 02:33 AM | Reply

--Comparing Trump to FDR is hilarious.

Well that's true, unless Trump puts a group of American citizens into internment camps, or even worse, Ann Arbor.

#29 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-22 02:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I gotta ask, what the hell happened to you nulli?

#30 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2016-11-22 04:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

Nulli stayed where he was at. Democrats are statists, terrified because a statist was elected, but are in cognitive dissonance about it.

#31 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2016-11-22 08:02 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trump can have his tantrum but he is going to have four years of these people destroying him. Good luck with that. He just threw down the gauntlet, he is going to have a rough four years.

#9 | Posted by danni at 2016-11-21 07:43 PM | Reply

Do you have any misconception that the gauntlet was thrown by the media long ago? Do you think that the bias shown by the media in the primary and presidential election would suddenly dissipate when Trump was chosen by the country for President? He was going to have a rough four years in the media regardless of his actions. Don't pretend otherwise. At least this way, he got to be honest with the press again.

#32 | Posted by Avigdore at 2016-11-22 08:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#32 - you think the "media" only went after Trump? You think they didn't roast Clinton every change they got? You're too "me, poor me!" to see.

"Still, a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest."

#33 | Posted by YAV at 2016-11-22 08:25 AM | Reply

-I gotta ask, what the hell happened to you nulli?

I gotta ask, what are you talking about?

#34 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-22 08:26 AM | Reply

#31 - that's awfully damned funny - and a beaut of a rationalization to witness. Everyone changed but Nulli?

#35 | Posted by YAV at 2016-11-22 08:28 AM | Reply

--beaut of a rationalization to witness. Everyone changed but Nulli?

Rationalization of what?

#36 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-22 08:54 AM | Reply

It will be interesting to see if the major media is hard on Trump or falls in line in response to his bullying so they can get access to him.

My bet is on cowardice. The big networks are about ratings and money more than they are about factual, tough reporting.

#37 | Posted by rcade at 2016-11-22 09:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Donald Trump Cancels Meeting With The New York Times

President-elect Donald Trump canceled a meeting with The New York Times Tuesday because it changed the terms "at the last minute," a claim the paper disputes.

A Times spokeswoman told HuffPost on Tuesday that the paper did not change the conditions, but that Trump's team had requested the visit only be off-the-record. "We were unaware that the meeting was cancelled until we saw the President Elect's tweet this morning," said Times spokeswoman Eileen Murphy. "We did not change the ground rules at all and made no attempt to."

Trump tweeted that another meeting with the Times could take place in the future, but he added the paper had been covering him "inaccurately and with a nasty tone!"

The Times has closely been covering Trump's foreign business dealings as he become president-elect, including a Monday story detailing how Trump urged a British politician he met with after winning the election to oppose wind farms that could affect the views on his Scottish golf course.

I guess Twitter has now become the President-elect's preferred method of global communication. Whoopee.

#38 | Posted by tonyroma at 2016-11-22 09:36 AM | Reply

I gotta ask, what the hell happened to you nulli?

I was wondering the same thing. Some of our Hillary-hating liberals have decided a good use of their time is to serve Trump by attacking his critics all the time. They're still as blind to the risk he poses to our country as they were during the election.

#39 | Posted by rcade at 2016-11-22 09:36 AM | Reply

Regarding Nulli....what policies of Trump is Nulli shilling for?

which appointments recently announced are being cheered by him?

All I'm seeing him do is putting a mirror in front of Rodhamites and they don't like what they see...so they attack him instead.

#40 | Posted by eberly at 2016-11-22 09:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

exercising their 1st Amendment rights by reporting what was thought to be true at a particular moment
#1 | TONYROMA

Media whores aren't interested in the truth, they're interested in ratings. Hiding their true intentions behind the 1st isn't illegal, just unethical.
_____________________________________
I make my living off the evening news
Just give me something-something I can use
People love it when you lose,
They love dirty laundry

Well, I coulda been an actor, but I wound up here
I just have to look good, I don't have to be clear
Come and whisper in my ear
Give us dirty laundry

You don't really need to find out what's going on
You don't really want to know just how far it's gone
Just leave well enough alone
Eat your dirty laundry

Dirty little secrets
Dirty little lies
We got our dirty little fingers in everybody's pie
We love to cut you down to size
We love dirty laundry

We can do "The Innuendo"
We can dance and sing
When it's said and done we haven't told you a thing
We all know that Kraft is king
Give us dirty laundry!

Kick 'em when they're up
Kick 'em when they're down
Kick 'em when they're stiff
Kick 'em all around

Written by Don Henley, Danny Kortchmar

#42 | Posted by Whizzo at 2016-11-22 09:52 AM | Reply

Regarding Nulli....what policies of Trump is Nulli shilling for?

What is the point of attacking Trump's critics all the time, if not to help Trump? It's incredibly myopic to focus your fire entirely on the candidate who lost and her followers when Trump is slouching toward Bethlehem.

The debate over Hillary matters in three years when another presidential campaign begins and Democrats begin looking at candidates.

Until then what matters is stopping the worst of Trump, and liberals who can't see that are blind fools.

#43 | Posted by rcade at 2016-11-22 09:54 AM | Reply

--Donald Trump Cancels Meeting With The New York Times

Good for him. They have been calling him a Nazi, bigot, racist, an existential threat to human civilization, etc., for a year. What did they expect? Tea and cucumber sandwiches?

#44 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-11-22 09:58 AM | Reply

And Nullifidian chimes in right on cue to attack a newspaper that challenges Dear Leader.

Because of course liberals hate the New York Times and agree with Trump about the paper.

That's so plausible!

#45 | Posted by rcade at 2016-11-22 10:01 AM | Reply

#31 - that's awfully damned funny - and a beaut of a rationalization to witness. Everyone changed but Nulli?

#35 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2016-11-22 08:28 AM | FLAG:

No, y'all didn't changed. You've always been statists. You just haven't been in a state led by somebody you were scared of yet. Now you're here. Maybe you won't be statists anymore, but I doubt it.

#47 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2016-11-22 10:09 AM | Reply

What is the point of attacking Trump's critics all the time, if not to help Trump?

One can point out how absolutely hysterical and unhinged Trump critics are without being supportive of Trump.

Y'all are making all sorts of wild predictions about what he's going to do. By itself that is fine - we all do that to some extent. But then many of his critics take it a step further and act as if their predictions have already come true. That isn't fine - it's living in a fantasy-world.

As for me? Jonah Goldberg (a huge Trump critic who didn't vote for him) put it along these lines over the weekend (paraphrased from memory):

When it comes to what kind of a president Trump will be I am like Bill Clinton after taking a blood test: Wait and see.

#50 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-11-22 10:20 AM | Reply

Sounds like Trump was being both accurate and hypocritical at the same time. Big media is run by disgusting liars who push an agenda that has nothing to do with truth and Trump is a digusting liar whose only agenda is feeding his ego and bank account.

#51 | Posted by Sully at 2016-11-22 10:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm confused - we all changed or we didn't change, we've always been "statists" but you're trumpeting the election of a Fascist and White Nationalist?

OK. If you say so.

#55 | Posted by YAV at 2016-11-22 11:41 AM | Reply

#40 except Hillary isn't going to be POTUS and that mirror serves as a shallow distraction to the man we need to be shining a spotlight on, Trump.

#56 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 11:48 AM | Reply

"Y'all are making all sorts of wild predictions about what he's going to do."

Who needs wild predictions? His words alone guaranteed war crimes, evisceration of the First Amendment, and a violation of Ariticle VI of the Constitution, among others.

Or are you taking comfort in the fact he's a pathological liar?

#57 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-11-22 11:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"...when Trump is slouching toward Bethlehem."
#43

It's a great phrase and apropos for Trump...

THE SECOND COMING
William Butler Yeats

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand;
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.

The darkness drops again but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?



#58 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-11-22 12:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Wish I could have been there to hear him ream them a new one. They made their own bed in the extremely biased election reporting and polls purposely slanted on Hillary's behalf. [Those same polls which made the left believe that she was a show-in and the shock of the reality is tangible in the current wacko behavior of the lefties.] Due to their blowing their 'journalist' credentials for all the nation to see, I hope he puts all of them to the back of the bus when it comes to access to the WH. I do believe FoxNews will be at the head of the line.

#59 | Posted by MSgt at 2016-11-22 12:56 PM | Reply

Yep its about time.
The FCC should fine the over the air networks for not providing unbiased news coverage as required in the broadcast licenses.

As far as CNN all these cable channels need to be broken up into ala cart services and if CNN is going to be biased they should not be allowed to use the name news.

It can no longer be denied everyone agrees the major media is biased. Its time to fix it.

#60 | Posted by tmaster at 2016-11-22 03:21 PM | Reply

Written by Don Henley, Danny Kortchmar

#42 | POSTED BY WHIZZO

Get the widow on the set!

youtu.be

#61 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2016-11-22 03:32 PM | Reply

Mommy! Those mean news guys won't tell me what I want to hear!

(that's better. Wrong thread before. D'oh!)

#62 | Posted by YAV at 2016-11-22 03:44 PM | Reply

Trump is walking on thin ice here. Based on the comments above, very few of his supporters seem to understand this. He will either stifle the 1st Amendment causing permanent damage to America, or he will acquiesce to the media's constitutional right to be as tough on him as they please. Unless he wants a totalitarian press, a la Russia, there is no way for him to stop the free press from expressing thousands of opinions that annoy him. I guess what I'm saying is that really Trump is just making an ass of himself again.

#63 | Posted by moder8 at 2016-11-22 04:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Donald Trump is controlled by nothing but for his own ego, hubris, and incredibly thin skin."

Hmmmm, is he related to Barackus Magnificus?

#64 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2016-11-22 04:12 PM | Reply

How quaint, M8, that you still think of CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS, MXNBC, FOX, WashPo, and NYT as not in the pocket of their corporate owners. The list of journalists that colluded with the DNC to promote Hillary is very long. Leaked debate questions, leaked interview questions, pre-recorded responses framed as interviews, questions fed from the DNC to the media -- you name the transgression, those outlets are up to their necks in the DNC.

#65 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2016-11-22 04:14 PM | Reply

"He's the Energizer Bunny of liars.... the Guinness World Book Lying record holder."

No way...that title goes to the person who INVENTED lying, our own Hillabeast!

#66 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2016-11-22 04:15 PM | Reply

"He just threw down the gauntlet, he is going to have a rough four years."

Really? After the sweet, smooth, cuddly ride he had with them during the campaign?

#67 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2016-11-22 04:17 PM | Reply

'Notch: You are intentionally missing the point. We have a Free Press in America. Trump can either stifle it or accept it. The media's transgressions remain regardless.

#68 | Posted by moder8 at 2016-11-22 04:19 PM | Reply

Wow. I do mean Wow too. I agree he is playing the FDR Fireside chat ploy with YouTube. Folks If you watched his transition team speech you will recognize the same sort of BS talk as in the campaign. Fewer double adjectives and adverbs though. He comes across sounding ALMOST normal. I think about 2/3 of what he presented is pure and utter BS but nobody can question him right?

I was half kidding about this when he won but the longer this drags on the more I am leaning toward this country is screwed. This is the rise of Hitler all over. Either he is more cagey and smarter than he seems or as I suspect has people behind him pulling strings. I mean if he was smart he rose to power on the wings of dissatisfaction by playing on the people with lies and rhetoric and that is scary because he has been acting for 30 years in the public... If he isn't it was he was just gullible for this kind of stuff and actually believes it. Based on his history I really think he is just gullible and being played by some one or a group. Either way I am confident this does not end well. We have a police state in effect and we have the technology to keep the people in check today.

#69 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2016-11-22 04:41 PM | Reply

Yep its about time.
The FCC should fine the over the air networks for not providing unbiased news coverage as required in the broadcast licenses.

As far as CNN all these cable channels need to be broken up into ala cart services and if CNN is going to be biased they should not be allowed to use the name news.

It can no longer be denied everyone agrees the major media is biased. Its time to fix it.

#60 | Posted by tmaster

I disagree completely. NOT everyone agrees with that. tmaster - give me a handful of cases of biased reporting from the mainstream please. All you are doing is spouting rhetoric. Back it up.

The media is human of course there is bias. Not everything reported is biased though. Bias does creep in occasionally on the main networks. BTW Fox is over the air - not their Cable News channel though. I mean you have an anchor Trump labels a liberal and Democrat and he is a Registered Republican. How does that play in your mind?

That said I find the reporting factual and mostly unbiased in the mainstream media. It's when you get into the newstainment of the likes of Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Fox and Friends, etc that you get bias like mad. Breitbart and other sites are don't even pretend to be unbiased. They don't report factually on much of anything not to mention the supposed bias of mainstream media. They just repeat and repeat without facts.

#70 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2016-11-22 04:49 PM | Reply

Hmmmm, is he related to Barackus Magnificus?

Obama never sat down with the media to berate them about how they cover him. He never used Twitter to whine incessantly about the media. Your comparison is bonkers.

#71 | Posted by rcade at 2016-11-22 05:03 PM | Reply

OK - I know the MSM apologists will refrain from looking at this scary 1 min 21 second Conan O'Brien expose, but they should. Why, because this is your multi-network independent media at work telling you what they are told to tell you. Conan is an independent thinker and the media bosses don't like it. It is your life, and either keep your head in sand, or get pissed and change it.
www.youtube.com

If you have extra time here is more but better. www.youtube.com

www.youtube.com or even more if you want proof the media is controlled and not by your friends.

#72 | Posted by Robson at 2016-11-22 06:21 PM | Reply

It will be interesting to see if the major media is hard on Trump or falls in line in response to his bullying so they can get access to him.
My bet is on cowardice. The big networks are about ratings and money more than they are about factual, tough reporting.

#37 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2016-11-22 09:25 AM | FLAG:

I hope you're wrong, but you might be right. The news media don't have the power, or the philanthropic outlook, they once had. Part of the reason is budget cuts. The resources just aren't there anymore. And much of that is because everyone gets their news online now, so revenues have gone down the toilet. And now we can all be "journalists," because we all have an opinion and we all have computers. The truth is what the audience says it is. And the establishment media, so eager to win over new adherents and tamp down stockholder pressure, start to lose track of the purpose of journalism.

I heard a story on the radio on the way home from work tonight about the inability of young people to discern the difference between truth and fiction. There was a study done showing students pictures of deformed daisies. The students were told the flowers were deformed because of the Fukushima nuclear mishap of a few years ago. The students were given no supporting facts to prove the Fukushima causation. Yet when asked later, between 80 and 90% of the respondents, depending on the age, said the photo was sufficient proof of the story of causation.

The students made little or no attempt to back up the allegation with an alternative source, or to check out the bona fides of the original source. Just the photo and the claim satisfied them. Bottom line is that many people read something online and believe it, and share it, without applying critical thinking skills.

#73 | Posted by cbob at 2016-11-22 08:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

The students made little or no attempt to back up the allegation with an alternative source, or to check out the bona fides of the original source. Just the photo and the claim satisfied them. Bottom line is that many people read something online and believe it, and share it, without applying critical thinking skills.

People also tend to make that snap decision based on pre-existing conclusions.

I think that's why, in my time on the DR, I've seen infowars go from a fringe site cited by folks like JeffnDenmark who believed in chemtrails, aliens building the pyramids and other such craziness to being relatively frequently cited by more mainstream folks, usually on the right (probably because it was anti-Obama or anti-Hillary pieces).

#74 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-22 10:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Obama never sat down with the media to berate them about how they cover him. He never used Twitter to whine incessantly about the media. Your comparison is bonkers."

First of all, he never had a need to berate the media. They all adored him and slobbered all over him. You don't remember the "thrills up legs?" Secondly, if you can't see that Obama has as much "ego, hubris, and incredibly thin skin" as Trump you're either blind, deaf, or just extremely naive.

#76 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2016-11-23 07:57 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"...if you can't see that Obama has as much "ego, hubris, and incredibly thin skin"...

Offer up an example. Just one will do.

#77 | Posted by Angrydad at 2016-11-23 03:46 PM | Reply

So lets see Trump told the same people that told the lib's Hillary was going to win they don't have a clue and the Lib's think he is wrong?

#78 | Posted by Federalist at 2016-11-23 07:41 PM | Reply

"With you clowns it's a constant drumbeat of faux scandal and faux outrage."

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. And how many days until we hear yet again about "The War on Christmas?"

Hell, how many days until Chaffetz starts those two years of hearings on HRC he promised?

Or will we hear more about the Clinton Foundation, now that the Trump Foundation has admitted self-dealing?

Of course, Trump just paid $25 million to settle a fraud case, something which would've made Rs go apoplectic.

But faux scandal and faux outrage? More like IOKIYAR, writ large.

#79 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-11-23 11:28 PM | Reply

First of all, he never had a need to berate the media. They all adored him and slobbered all over him.

Obama was never a childish -------- piece of ---- so he had no need.

#80 | Posted by jpw at 2016-11-24 01:28 AM | Reply

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