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Tuesday, October 18, 2016

It's nonstop: Media types everywhere are foaming at the mouth with dire warnings of violence in the streets if Donald Trump loses this election.

The truth is, there is much more likely to be trouble if Trump wins.

The Democratic party has violence in its DNA, as we learned yesterday thanks to an explosive new undercover video from multimedia journalist James O'Keefe of Project Veritas, the same folks behind those Planned Parenthood stings.

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Dems mobilize troublemakers at each and every Trump/Pence appearance to try to agitate the crowd -- they call it "bird-dogging." That jibes with a Wiki­Leaks email of Clinton campaign spokesman Robbie Mooks writing about "an opportunity to bird-dog" in regards to immigration.

One operative named Scott Foval was all too happy to brag about how the bird-dogging goes down.

"Conflict engagement in the lines at Trump rallies. We're starting anarchy here."

And who does the actual rabble-rousing?

"We have mentally ill people that we pay to do (expletive)," Foval bragged.

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James O'Keefe? Wasn't he that pimp with the fake video?

#1 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2016-10-18 06:21 PM | Reply

"the same folks behind those FAKED Planned Parenthood stings."

#2 | Posted by donnerboy at 2016-10-18 06:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"the same folks behind those REAL Scott Foval stings."

#2 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY AT 2016-10-18 06:57 PM

FTFY

#3 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2016-10-18 07:07 PM | Reply

If the majority is slow to leap on a story from James O'Keefe, he only has himself to blame.

This is the result of 'calling wolf' once too often. It wasn't too long ago that he was convicted of a crime involving his video work.

#4 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2016-10-18 07:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If the majority is slow to leap on a story from James O'Keefe, he only has himself to blame.

Foval's bosses at AUFC certainly weren't slow to fire him for making these statements and issuing a press release saying that they didn't condone his actions.

#5 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2016-10-18 07:16 PM | Reply

My guess is that Cesar Vargas of the Dream Action Coalition is the next to fall into the deep end.

#6 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2016-10-18 07:19 PM | Reply

Say what you want about O'Keefe, but there is no denying that Foval said the following:

"We've been bussing people in to deal with you f***in' -------- [Republicans] for fifty years and we're not going to stop now, we're just going to find a different way to do it,"
And people wonder why the GOP is worried about voter fraud?

#7 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2016-10-18 07:21 PM | Reply

LOL. Right wing still against busing. Good thread.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-10-18 07:23 PM | Reply

LOL. Right wing still against busing. Good thread.

Turns out Foval also was against "bussing" and suggested a system of transporting people, and specifically illegal immigrants, across state lines for the purpose of voting illegally to essentially stuff ballot boxes with Democrat votes – Stoval fleshes that idea out by suggesting "they be paid to drive personal vehicles rather than get on buses"...at least that is what he says in the video released today.

Not only should he be prosecuted for inciting a riot but fraudulent activities across state lines, which is a Federal offense.

#9 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2016-10-18 07:29 PM | Reply

suggested a system of transporting people, and specifically illegal immigrants, across state lines for the purpose of voting illegally

This is hilarious if true, since it would never work, and it's also hilarious if not true, since you seem to believe it could.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-10-18 07:32 PM | Reply

to essentially stuff ballot boxes

essentially
What the hell are you talking about?

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-10-18 07:32 PM | Reply

Lets be clear, the most violent, environmentally destructive institution on the planet earth is the US military. Its leaders and troops willing to invade other countries and kill people are overwhelmingly conservative. Gun owners are overwhelmingly conservative and lethally violent. Religious conservative fanatics have murdered abortion doctors. Incidents of violence against abortion clinics have included destruction of property, in the form of vandalism; crimes against people, including kidnapping, stalking, assault, attempted murder, and murder; and crimes affecting both people and property, including arson and bombings. This story repeats itself against black people in the South. Timothy McVeigh was a conservative committed to violence.

There are exceptions like the unibomber and earth first liberal radicals, but they are small in number by comparison.

Next on the list of perpetrators of violence in this country is our police force, which we have seen on our TVs to have a propensity to shoot first and act questions later when confronting minority populations.

So, as usual RoC is FoS.

#12 | Posted by nutcase at 2016-10-18 07:44 PM | Reply

-and specifically illegal immigrants

Once Rodham and the Dems legalizes millions of illegal migrants and gives them voting rights, they will have created a permanent Democrat Party majority. Might not ever see a Republican president elected again.

#13 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-10-18 07:50 PM | Reply

Republicans pretending there is a real problem with voter fraud while at the same time disenfranchising thousands with voter suppression laws like photo ID, running name matches in various states and eliminating any voters whose names are just similar to someone in another state, it's ridiculous and I think they are going to fail. They should have, instead, nominated a good candidate but that didn't occur to these idiots because they have benefited so much from gerrymandering and voter suppression, too bad those techniques are probably not goint to work in the Presidential election of 2016. Trump already knows it, why don't the rest of you? The crazies are going to lose big in November.

#14 | Posted by danni at 2016-10-18 07:52 PM | Reply

Nulli,

Mark my words: Obama will issue a mass pardon for ALL illegal immigrants during the lame-duck session.

#15 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-10-18 07:53 PM | Reply

#14

Democrats clearly think voter fraud benefits them which is why they are so strongly opposed to measures taken to minimize it.

#16 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-10-18 07:54 PM | Reply

Lets be clear, the most violent, environmentally destructive institution on the planet earth is the US military. Its leaders and troops willing to invade other countries and kill people are overwhelmingly conservative. Gun owners are overwhelmingly conservative and lethally violent. Religious conservative fanatics have murdered abortion doctors. Incidents of violence against abortion clinics have included destruction of property, in the form of vandalism; crimes against people, including kidnapping, stalking, assault, attempted murder, and murder; and crimes affecting both people and property, including arson and bombings. This story repeats itself against black people in the South. Timothy McVeigh was a conservative committed to violence.
There are exceptions like the unibomber and earth first liberal radicals, but they are small in number by comparison.
Next on the list of perpetrators of violence in this country is our police force, which we have seen on our TVs to have a propensity to shoot first and act questions later when confronting minority populations.
So, as usual RoC is FoS.

#12 | POSTED BY NUTCASE

None of that is germane to this thread.

#17 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-10-18 08:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Democratic party has violence in its DNA ...

That wins the prize for the dumbest thing said this month on the Internet. That's a hard competition to win, but we have found the champion. Kudos.

#18 | Posted by rcade at 2016-10-18 09:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Rcade,

In a vacuum it's a ridiculous comment, but in context with this...

Dems mobilize troublemakers at each and every Trump/Pence appearance to try to agitate the crowd -- they call it "bird-dogging." That jibes with a Wiki­Leaks email of Clinton campaign spokesman Robbie Mooks writing about "an opportunity to bird-dog" in regards to immigration.

One operative named Scott Foval was all too happy to brag about how the bird-dogging goes down.

"Conflict engagement in the lines at Trump rallies. We're starting anarchy here."

And who does the actual rabble-rousing?

"We have mentally ill people that we pay to do (expletive)," Foval bragged.

#19 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-10-18 09:24 PM | Reply

And people wonder why the GOP is worried about voter fraud?

#7 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

A comprehensive investigation of voter impersonation finds 31 credible incidents out of one billion ballots cast
www.washingtonpost.com

#20 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2016-10-18 09:42 PM | Reply

In a vacuum it's a ridiculous comment ...

If I said violence was in Trump supporters' DNA, you'd call it ridiculous. Yet we've seen several dozen acts of physical violence at rallies this year, and almost all of them were committed by Trump supporters.

Claiming violence is in the DNA of the party you don't like is ridiculous in a vacuum, ridiculous in atmosphere, ridiculous in wormholes, ridiculous in hyperspace and ridiculous in Commander Data's shiny metal butt.

#21 | Posted by rcade at 2016-10-18 10:00 PM | Reply

#21

Fair enough.

#22 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-10-18 10:01 PM | Reply

O'Keefe is a liar and a fraud I believe nothing he has too say or show, the hell with him

#23 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2016-10-18 10:04 PM | Reply

Punchy,

Even a broken clock is right twice per day.

I completely get your disdain for O'Keefe but in this particular case he uncovered a bombshell.

#24 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-10-18 10:06 PM | Reply

I won't bother with this. Everything I need to know is summed up in the pure idiocy of 'thought' displayed in this line: "Project Veritas, the same folks behind those Planned Parenthood stings."

#25 | Posted by YAV at 2016-10-18 10:20 PM | Reply

Yav,

The guy was quickly fired over this. I understand your skepticism but this one seems to be legit - blind squirrel finding a nut and all that.

#26 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-10-18 10:23 PM | Reply

#26 - #25.
Finito.

#27 | Posted by YAV at 2016-10-18 10:38 PM | Reply

Wow.. no one has found the Veritas-Russia-Trump link yet? Come on guys, wheres your A game at? Are they out of TinFoil at the Publix?

#28 | Posted by aescal at 2016-10-19 01:40 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

there's nothing wrong with counter protest, quite to the contrary.
using trolls, even agitators, is not a new concept new either.

your republican buddies are on tv saying that's what '68 was.

so, grow up.

#29 | Posted by ichiro at 2016-10-19 02:50 AM | Reply

Well, WaPo reported on this story, quite thoroughly I must say.

www.washingtonpost.com

#30 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-10-19 05:52 PM | Reply

"Foval's bosses at AUFC certainly weren't slow to fire him for making these statements and issuing a press release saying that they didn't condone his actions.
#5 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER AT 2016-10-18 07:16 PM"

A lot quicker than James O'Keefe's boss fired him.

Hmmmmm...

#31 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2016-10-19 06:34 PM | Reply

A lot quicker than James O'Keefe's boss fired him.

Project Veritas Founder and President James O'Keefe: "James, I fire me! Pack up your desk!"

#32 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2016-10-19 07:18 PM | Reply

Sometimes people resign when caught up in a scandal.
O'Keefe gives himself a raise.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-10-19 07:31 PM | Reply

"Project Veritas Founder and President James O'Keefe: "James, I fire me! Pack up your desk!"
#32 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER AT 2016-10-19 07:18 PM"

Does he also pay himself?

Whatever controls his money is his boss.

#34 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2016-10-20 02:47 PM | Reply

lots of sgt schultz's around here.

#35 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2016-10-20 03:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

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