Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Monday, October 17, 2016

"Americans are so disillusioned by the major party candidates it seems many would prefer to vote for Kevin Kline's character from the movie Dave or the ghost of Martin Luther King, Jr. -- assuming he only said the three quotes that white people like," joked Oliver.

He added, "This disenchantment may explain the high interest in America's third parties, because when your two main options are depressing, any third choice seems good. If you're in a KFC/Taco Bell and you see a bunch of pigeons eating something in the parking lot, you might well think, ‘Hang on -- what have they got over there?''

"The more you look at Gary Johnson and Jill Stein, the more you realize the lack of coverage they complain about so much might have genuinely benefitted them," said Oliver, "because their key proposals crumble under the slightest amount of scrutiny."

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John Oliver is a shill. A clever and often amusing shill. But treating his rants as anything more than an amusement would be taking life advice from a carnival barker.

#1 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-17 10:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As you have from your former idol Trump, before switching to the ludicrous Stein?
Lay off the booze and drugs, kid, they've brought you far down enough already.

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-10-17 10:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Late-breaking news:

John Oliver is a comedian.
Pointed, acerbic, etc., and a c-o-m-e-d-i-a-n.
Comedian.
Sheesh.

#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-10-17 11:16 AM | Reply

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-10-17 10:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

Watching you self destruct over the last few months was amusing at first. It was entertaining when you were an arrogant clown who couldn't admit to being wrong about something like who signed NAFTA into law. Now you're just a husk whose every post is more banal than the last.

Whatever it is, you should seek professional help.

#4 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-17 11:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Did it work for you?
Or are you still winging it day to day, little Trumpeteer?

#5 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-10-17 11:19 AM | Reply

Pick less ------ candidates, problem solved. Almost no one will want to vote third party if the major party candidates are good.

#6 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2016-10-17 12:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#5 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-10-17 11:19 AM | Reply:

I'm quite well. You need to focus on Doc.

He's been crying out for help for quite some time now.

#7 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-17 12:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Speaking of projection, Sully has been the one taking the thread floggings for his never ending Hillary Hate-based Trump Deflections and lame equivalencies about the candidates for the last couple of months, not Doc.... who has more creativity and intellect in his little toe than Sully has demonstrated in 10 years here.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-17 12:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Basically, Oliver is herding the sheep back to the two party system.

Don't vote for third party! Third party bad!

Which one of Trump's policies don't crumble under scrutiny?

Which one of Hillary's policies won't she abandon once elected?

#9 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-10-17 12:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#10

Not denying what I posted was prolly your smartest move, Special Sully.

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-17 12:39 PM | Reply

-not Doc.... who has more creativity and intellect

He was good in 2008, when he described Rodham as "Corky's 'earth mother'"

#12 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-10-17 12:40 PM | Reply

Basically, Oliver is herding the sheep back to the two party system.

Don't vote for third party! Third party bad!

Which one of Trump's policies don't crumble under scrutiny?

Which one of Hillary's policies won't she abandon once elected?

#9 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-10-17 12:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

He's really just trying to herd people towards Hillary. Strange how he finds no humor is her constant contradictions, avoidance of direct questions, ridiculous explanations for even more ridiculous behavior and bloody bumblings.

Alot of the ex-Daily Show guys try to be like John Stewart but Stewart, while having his preferences, didn't give anyone a total free pass, which made him more credible IMO.

#13 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-17 12:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Not denying what I posted was prolly your smartest move

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-17 12:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

LOL. Oh why is that? Would you have dedicated even more of that noodle-sharp wit of yours to me?

I need not defend myself from the claims of someone with your credibility problem. Your enmity is a feather in any poster's cap.

#14 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-17 12:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I'm quite well"

Aside from all your whining, whinging, and pathetic bloviating and pontificating.
Aye-aye, Captain Queeg.

#15 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-10-17 01:39 PM | Reply

What's the over/under on the amount of times CrockedStarvis uses "I know you are but what am I?" ?

#16 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2016-10-17 01:48 PM | Reply

What's the over/under on the number of times you don't sound like a parrot aspiring to be a lap dog?

#17 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-10-17 01:53 PM | Reply

What's the over/under on the amount of times CrockedStarvis uses "I know you are but what am I?" ?
#16 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE AT 2016-10-17 01:48 PM | FLAG:

What's the over/under on the number of times you..
#17 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS AT 2016-10-17 01:53 PM

Like a willing midget in a dwarf toss.

#19 | Posted by LIVE_OR_DIE at 2016-10-17 02:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

What's the over/under on the amount of times CrockedStarvis uses "I know you are but what am I?" ?

#16 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2016-10-17 01:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

Take the over. That is his go-to move now. He's even boring when he's drunk. Banal to the bone.

#20 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-17 02:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. VOTE 3RD PARTY!

Or help America suck by voting for HRC or Trump.

#21 | Posted by moder8 at 2016-10-17 02:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Watching you self destruct over the last few months was amusing at first.

#4 | POSTED BY SULLY

Hilarious, coming from the guy who became a genocide denier and a Trumpian Appeasement Monkey whenever Putin comes up. Just to be "impartial" and "seeing both sides of an issue".

And yeah, Oliver was very too pro Joe Tigerguy. Although Johnson was clearly an idiot.

#22 | Posted by northguy3 at 2016-10-17 02:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

over the last few months
#4 | POSTED BY SULLY

During that same period of time, Sully turned into a Green.
This election has done really weird things to a number of center-right folks.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-10-17 02:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Hilarious, coming from the guy who became a genocide denier and a Trumpian Appeasement Monkey whenever Putin comes up. Just to be "impartial" and "seeing both sides of an issue".

And yeah, Oliver was very too pro Joe Tigerguy. Although Johnson was clearly an idiot.

#22 | Posted by northguy3 at 2016-10-17 02:40 PM | Reply"

What isn't hilarious is your pathetic need to dredge up arguments that you lost at the time in lieu of having anything of worth to say in this thread. Your stupid name calling didn't help you during those actual discussion and its only more pathetic now.

Go lick your wounds somewhere else. Nobody likes a sore loser.

#24 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-17 02:53 PM | Reply

Speaking of sore losers...
Moving from Der Trumpf to Stein?
Jeezus, you lack both pride and consistency.

#25 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-10-17 02:55 PM | Reply

Moving from Der Trumpf to Stein?
Jeezus, you lack both pride and consistency.

#25 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-10-17 02:55 PM | Reply

Bernie to Stein, Gomer. And I basically just want someone who isn't a puppet of moneyed interests.

My support of Trump was voicing agreement with some of his since abandoned positions on trade and international alliances as well as calling the "he's literally Hitler!" hysteria stupid and counter productive. I also thought he may be indepedent of the bankers until he went full trickle down.

I can see how to a vapid party hack who is told what to think, this would all be very confusing. But an independent thinker doesn't have to be all or nothing for one candidate. Is allowed to change his mind. And doesn't have to worry about being "consistent" as far as sticking to set of beliefs assigned by one party.

It feels nice to be free to think for one's self but its not for everyone. You're probably better of taking orders.

#26 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-17 03:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-Your enmity is a feather in any poster's cap.

Don't let anyone tell you that your cap doesn't make you look smarter.

4.bp.blogspot.com

- an independent thinker

ROFL! From a guy who thinks whatever the VRWC has told him to think for decades.

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-17 03:20 PM | Reply

the VRWC

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-17 03:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

LOL. And I thought you reached rock bottom when your 'arguments' consisted mostly of calling people "hater".

Tell us more about the "VRWC", Mongo. Pretty, please?

#28 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-17 03:26 PM | Reply

"VRWC" are the folks who spent 100's of millions of dollars over the last 25 years forming your Hillary Hate. It was hardly worth it, though, considering the tired, predictable results.

#29 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-17 03:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

-the VRWC

A phrase coined by Mrs. Bill Clinton to call all the victims of her sexual-predator husband liars.

#30 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-10-17 03:42 PM | Reply

"VRWC" are the folks

#29 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-17 03:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yes, folks who TOTALLY exist. LOL

Reminds me of a joke: The VRWC, Santa, the Easter Bunny, Smart Corky and Dumb Corky are walking down the street. All at the same time, they spot a $100 bill on the sidewalk? Who gets the bill?

Dumb Corky.

Why? Because there is no such thing as The VRWC, Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny or Smart Corky!

#31 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-17 03:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A phrase coined by Mrs. Bill Clinton to call all the victims of her sexual-predator husband liars.

Obviously VWRC is intended to make an issue of the political aspect of the accusations.
Calling some idea a conspiracy theory is a sure-fire way to discredit it.
For example, all your posts discrediting TonyRoma for buying into 9/11 conspiracies.

It's not a conspiracy though. All the actions against President Clinton pretty much happened in the open. The GOP thought it was worth spending as much on Ken Starr as we do on PBS. Only one of those they view as a decent investment.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-10-17 03:54 PM | Reply

"My support of Trump was..."
Then.
This is now.
You're a joke.

#33 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-10-17 04:03 PM | Reply

#33 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-10-17 04:03 PM | Reply:

Wow! That was technically seven words! Missing an actual thought but ....well seven words!

Pretty good for you. Keep at it, Tiger!

Some day, you may write an actual post!

#34 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-17 04:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

- Because there is no such thing as The VRWC

So, all those 100's of millions that were spent were never spent? The denial is strong in this one.

btw, here's another of those rwing myths you so love to repeat turned to dust....

"All, in all, we think Trump's blanket charge that Clinton "viciously" attacked these women to be an exaggeration too far."

www.cnn.com

#35 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-17 05:44 PM | Reply

-www.cnn.com

Might just as well post something from hillaryclinton.com

#36 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-10-17 05:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Oliver points out what many others have, that the Pres does not have the authority to cancel student debt, her main policy goal, using quantitative easing.

Which must be why the post in #1 sounds so hysterically offended.

Then there is this....

The Case Against Jill Stein
Though it's frustrating for many progressives who long for a viable third party, there are serious questions about Stein's judgement

www.rollingstone.com

Which is all theoretical anyway, the GP getting about 2 percent of the vote... just another throw away protest vote that may make one feel smug and superior, but in reality does nothing to fulfill one's civic responsibility to vote in such a way that is in the best interest of the country; not in a way that can help someone like Donald Trump.

#37 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-17 06:01 PM | Reply

I get it now. 4 more years of recession plagued endless war, but we'll call it recovery.

#38 | Posted by nutcase at 2016-10-17 06:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

But if you vote for Trump, you get all that and a wall too! And a trade war that will make the "recovery" seem even phonier.

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-10-17 06:35 PM | Reply

A phrase coined by Mrs. Bill Clinton to call all the victims of her sexual-predator husband liars.

#30 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Yeah, it was them darn liberals who sucked 50 million dollars out of the taxpayers' pockets to pay Ken Starr to investigate Bill and Hillary, and liberal Gowdy to pi$$ another 15 million to investigate whether or not Hillary actually led the attack in Benghazzi or merely personally executed Ambassador Stevens. And the dang DNC, paying those bimbos to campaign for Drumpf, especially the woman who thinks defense attorneys shouldn't do their jobs.

It is funny that you believe all the women who claim Cheeto Childmolester are part of some VLWC and his admission of being a pedophile was fake.

Now back to Ray's bunker, Nulli. The RAF is starting a nuclear war any second now.

#40 | Posted by northguy3 at 2016-10-17 07:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

pathetic need to dredge up arguments that you lost at the time

Yeah Sully, the International Justice Court and the United Nations are all Hillary shills and you are, indeed,a legend in your own mind.

Now back to BOAZ' Fortress of Solitude and Pretty Feet. BOAZ needs to feel alpha over and Prolix is out polishing Trumpturds.

#41 | Posted by northguy3 at 2016-10-17 07:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Lfthndthrds take on wacky retorters, Porky and North-gay-three

#42 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2016-10-18 05:35 AM | Reply

Yeah Sully, the International Justice Court and the United Nations are all Hillary shills and you are, indeed,a legend in your own mind.

#41 | Posted by northguy3 at 2016-10-17 07:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

You're still pathetically trying to pretend that you made some point that disproves what I was saying in another thread.

What I said was that the Serbs were not guilty of genocide, which is an overly used term as genocide has rarely been attempted in human history. They were engaged in ethnic cleansing just like both sides in that war. And I gave you examples that proves the KLA was engaged in ethnic cleansing. Randomly naming institutions does not invalidate the facts I presented to you.

And don't come back without your shine box.

#43 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-18 11:23 AM | Reply

www.youtube.com

#44 | Posted by eberly at 2016-10-18 11:29 AM | Reply

- What I said was that the Serbs were not guilty of genocide,

That must be why their leader was convicted of... genocide.

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-18 01:21 PM | Reply

That must be why their leader was convicted of... genocide.

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-18 01:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

He was convicted of killing 8,000 people. He deserves what he gets but the idea that 8,000 people = an entire ethnic group is rather foolish. His goal was ethnic cleansing, not genocide.

They could convict the scumbag of trying to destroy the Earth and I'd be fine with it but the conviction wouldn't make it factually true.

#46 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-18 02:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You are a laugh riot. Now you are saying he was innocent of the charges for which he was convicted... because you are still defending Trump, who now says he never even commented on the subject... which means he prolly did.

Your, "But Mommy, the brown people did THE SAME THING!" is horse manure. The Serbs were the aggressors and did 80 percent of the death and damage.

And when the Muslims dared to defend themselves, why, that makes them just the same in Dully World.

#47 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-18 03:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"You are a laugh riot. Now you are saying he was innocent of the charges for which he was convicted..."

No, I was quite clear in saying "he is guilty of murdering 8,000 people". It is right in #46 for anyone to read so I don't know why you bother telling such Low IQ lies. My only disagreement is with the incorrect use of the word "genocide". The Serbs were engaged in ethnic cleansing, as were their enemies. Genocide was not a goal of any party involved. These words have meanings beyond shallow sensationalism, you pathetic fool.

"because you are still defending Trump, who now says he never even commented on the subject... which means he prolly did."

Stupid strawman from a stupid poster. I've said we had no business bombing the Serbs since it happened.

"Your, "But Mommy, the brown people did THE SAME THING!" is horse manure. The Serbs were the aggressors and did 80 percent of the death and damage."

The Serbs were the better killers. I've said all along that bother sides were engaged in ethnic cleansing but the Serbs were uniquely guilty of being batter at it. That the KLA also engaged in ethnic cleansing has been proven and I gave you half a dozen examples. Furthermore, the KLA's stated goal was ethnic cleansing. I don't know why you have to lie about it when they had no problem saying it out loud.

And you are the one who loves bombing brown people, not me. You make constant excuses for killing brown people and wrecking their countries. If I didn't believe you to be a unique, I would almost think you have a fetish for it.

"And when the Muslims dared to defend themselves, why, that makes them just the same in Dully World."

Absolute lie. They massacred civilians and the incidents are well documented.

#48 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-18 03:52 PM | Reply

"However, the mass media mainly gave a one sided point of view, and this point of view was anti-Serbian. Yet the findings by the BBC and others highlight a different story and one which continues to be mainly ignored. This applies to the brutal killings and torture of innocent Serbians by the KLA and others were also murdered by this terrorist organization."

www.globalresearch.ca

Turns out the truth is alot more complicated than the comic book good guy/bad guy world view of low IQ shills.

#49 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-18 04:02 PM | Reply

- the incorrect use of the word "genocide"

The episode in Bosnia was ethnic cleansing as it did not meet the definition of genocide for a country. The conviction of the Serbian leader was genocide because it did for an individual. Too complicated for you?

But hey, you know more than the Court about said definitions, right?

- I've said all along that bother sides were engaged in ethnic cleansing but the Serbs were uniquely guilty of being batter at it.

That's like saying Hitler and France were both engaged in killing, but Hitler was better at it.

It's just another asininity to defend an ignorant opinion.

#50 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-18 04:19 PM | Reply

I've said all along that bother sides were engaged in ethnic cleansing

And your complaint is that we stopped the side that was doing it better.
Stopping ethnic cleansing is more outrageous than not stopping it, I guess?

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-10-18 04:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That's like saying Hitler and France were both engaged in killing, but Hitler was better at it.

It's just another asininity to defend an ignorant opinion.

#50 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-18 04:19 PM | Reply:

That's not even a nice try. Hitler again? Don't you know that sounds retarded?

Both sides were guilty of atrocities. Did you even read the link I gave you? Do you know how to use Google? Try "KLA atrocities".

It is obvious that you don't even care what the truth is, you just have some desperate need to pretend that the NATO bombing helped the good guys because a Democrat ordered it. You could give a crap about the people involved too.

I've given you all the information you need in order to understand a truth that is more complicated than the simplistic half truths you've been force fed. And you still insist on clinging to simplistic, cartoonish nonsense.

Face it Corky: You are slow witted and close minded and you allow people with agendas to tell you what to believe. You have no intellecual curiousity about what really happened. You can't even be force-fed the truth.

You will always lose these arguments because you're a dishonest shill yet not smart enough to fool anyone.

#52 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-18 04:36 PM | Reply

Both sides were guilty of atrocities.

Isn't this the case in every war, Sully?

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-10-18 04:36 PM | Reply

"The conviction of the Serbian leader was genocide because it did for an individual. Too complicated for you?"

LOL at this word salad, BTW. A genocide of one!

Yes, the very bad man was guilty of killing people. Just leave it at that. You clearly have no idea what genocide means.

#54 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-18 04:39 PM | Reply

Isn't this the case in every war, Sully?

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-10-18 04:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

I take you off plonk and this is the first thing I see....

Is there a purpose of this comment other than to pettifog?

Did you read the link I provided? Have you done any of your own research on the KLA?

The KLA's atrocities were not committed by rogue soldiers who were violating their policies. The KLA atrocities were commited as a matter of policy. [...]

#55 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-18 04:57 PM | Reply

- You clearly have no idea what genocide means.

I'll have to take the Int Court's definition over yours, Sally.

The equivalences you make up of the atrocities of the Serbs and the Muslims is laughable, no matter how many times you repeat it. It's like saying a molehill and a mountain are both mountains.

#56 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-18 05:29 PM | Reply

"The equivalences you make up of the atrocities of the Serbs and the Muslims is laughable"

I didn't say they were equal in scale. Only in intent and end goals.

And if you were willing to acknowledge all the KLA's innocent victims, you'd have to admit that the KLA is a terrorist organization.

That you are too petty to admit you are wrong is not my fault.

You are an interesting case study though. Not enough pride to think for yourself. But prideful in backing the nonsense other people told you to believe. You're the perfect sucker.

#57 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-18 05:40 PM | Reply

- Only in intent and end goals.

SO, like a mountain and a molehill.

- all the KLA's innocent victims

Were less than 20 percent of the Serbs. The KLA stated "goals" are irrelevant to the events and the magnitude of difference in the ethnic cleansing is 80-20 at best.


You are a thoroughly uninteresting case study of bigly boring pedant.

#58 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-18 05:48 PM | Reply

of a

#59 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-18 05:49 PM | Reply

For reference:

The term "genocide" is often incorrectly used, such as in Dr. Anderson's assessment, to describe extreme examples of mass murder, the death of vast numbers of people, as, for instance in Cambodia. What took place in Cambodia was horrific, but it does not fall under the terms of the Genocide Convention, as the Convention specifically refers to a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, with individuals within that group targeted by a government or its agents because they are members of the group or by attacking the underpinnings of the group's existence as a group being met with the intent to destroy that group in whole or in part. The Cambodian government committed crimes against humanity, but not genocide. Genocide is not an act simply worse than anything else, rather a specific kind of act. The term, "ethnic cleansing," is a descriptive term created by humanitarian interventionists to describe what was said to be happening in the 1990s wars among the republics of Yugoslavia. It is a descriptive term, not a term of international humanitarian law.
historynewsnetwork.org

#60 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2016-10-18 05:52 PM | Reply

And if you were willing to acknowledge all the KLA's innocent victims, you'd have to admit that the KLA is a terrorist organization.

Does the United States military ever kill innocent victims?
Like Obama's drones, that kind of thing?
Are you prepared to admit we are a terrorist organization too?
Or are you just blowing away, windbag?

#61 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-10-18 06:04 PM | Reply

Does the United States military ever kill innocent victims?
Like Obama's drones, that kind of thing?
Are you prepared to admit we are a terrorist organization too?
Or are you just blowing away, windbag?

#61 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-10-18 06:04 PM | Reply | Flag

Pettifog some more. Seriously, eventually I amy be fooled by it and respond to you as if you're not being a lazy clown making ill informed and irrelevant comments.

And why don't you ask Corky about Obama's love of bombing people? He's the one who gets butthurt when people like me object to it.

#62 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-19 09:45 AM | Reply

-people like me

Would apparently rather send in troops than drones... or hide from the world under their beds.

#63 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-19 01:22 PM | Reply

-people like me

Would apparently rather send in troops than drones... or hide from the world under their beds.

So.

People like him are two diametrically different type of people?

#64 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-10-19 01:33 PM | Reply

Confused, more like.

#65 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-19 01:34 PM | Reply

#63 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-19 01:22 PM | Reply

I love it when Corky's estrosterone gets running and he tries to act all butch.

Yes, not wanting to bomb people for no reason = hiding under a bed.

It takes alot of bravery to mindlessly support a political party including whatever bombings it orders. Such bravery!

LOL

#66 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-19 01:37 PM | Reply

-bomb people for no reason

ISIS appreciates your support.

#67 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-19 01:45 PM | Reply

ISIS appreciates your support.

#67 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-19 01:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

I've never supported ISIS. You supported the destruction of Liyba, which helped ISIS expand and you still make excuses for that ridiculous blunder even after Obama admitted it has turned out horribly. Seems you like the results.

You've also spent quite alot of time on this site trying to create smoke screens for Al Qaeda by lying about their presence among certain groups.

And in this thread you've repeatedly denied the crimes of KLA terrorsts.

You love terrorism, Corky.

#68 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-19 01:53 PM | Reply

So, your plan to deal with ISIS is what again?

Ah, yes, under your bed.

#69 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-19 02:05 PM | Reply

I liked Trump's plan. It was secret for months. Then, finally the secret came out: I'm going to ask all our generals what to do, and give them 30 days to have a written plan on my desk. He's got a secret plan to plan. Very Presidential.

#70 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-10-19 02:07 PM | Reply

#70

Odd, that's the same as Sully's plan! You don't think.... naw!

#71 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-19 02:11 PM | Reply

So, your plan to deal with ISIS is what again?

Ah, yes, under your bed.

#69 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-19 02:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

In Syria, I would have been content to let Assad take care of them, which may have happend by now had we not been propping up the other jihadi factions. Do you think the people we are arming who brag about beheading children are any better than ISIS?

In Libya, all that needed to be done was not turn the country into a jihadi free for all. I kind of remember telling you that we needed to avoid messing around there and you being all stupid about it. And to this day you won't admit was a foolish ass you were to support that because you have no integrity.

Iraq is a tougher situation. The only people there who deserve any help are the Kurds.

#72 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-19 02:19 PM | Reply

#72

So, no plan for now, just whining about yesterday.... and about what a Pres has to do now.

Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away
Now it looks as though they're here to stay
Oh, I believe in yesterday

Suddenly, I'm not half the man I used to be
There's a shadow hanging over me.
Oh, yesterday came suddenly

Perhaps you also believe in other fictions...

www.drudge.com

#73 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-19 02:24 PM | Reply

Do you think the people we are arming who brag about beheading children are any better than ISIS?

Depends.
How naughty were the children?
Seriously though, I don't think anybody is worse than ISIS. Better, that's harder to say.

#74 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-10-19 02:25 PM | Reply

Iraq is a tougher situation. The only people there who deserve any help are the Kurds.
#72 | Posted by Sully

LOL, why do they deserve help? Because they were being genocided and/or ethnically cleansed, just like some folks in Yugoslavia that didn't deserve our help?

#75 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-10-19 02:26 PM | Reply

LOL, why do they deserve help? Because they were being genocided and/or ethnically cleansed, just like some folks in Yugoslavia that didn't deserve our help?

#75 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-10-19 02:26 PMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

Because they have always been solid allies to us despite our being very shaky allies to them.

The KLA terrorists you have a crush on never did anything for us.

You can take my word for it on both since you apparently know nothing about either situation yet insist on commenting...

#76 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-19 02:31 PM | Reply

=never did anything for us.

Not much of a selfless humanitarian view, is it?

And I still don't see a plan for what to do about ISIS now.... other than what Obama is doing.

#77 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-19 02:37 PM | Reply

Not much of a selfless humanitarian view, is it?

And I still don't see a plan for what to do about ISIS now.... other than what Obama is doing.

#77 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-19 02:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

Bombing people and traficking weapons are not humanitarian activities. What kind of scumbag needs to to told that?

And I told what to do about ISIS - Stop destabalizing the region and creating more territory for them - as I've told you many times. To the extent that local governments are handling ISIS, stay out of their way (Syria) or help them (Iraq). Where the Kurds are fighting ISIS, help the Kurds.

IS Obama doing some of those things? Yes. But he also destroyed Libya and created an opportunity for ISIS there. And he's trying to destablize Syria, which will only help ISIS.

You apparently can't think for yourself so I'm glad that you're asking me this stuff. I haven't steered you wrong before, unlike the Democrats who made you look like a complete fool with that Libya debacle.

#78 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-19 03:22 PM | Reply

Like I said, still no plan for how to fight ISIS without bombs or troops, which is what you appear to be demanding Obama do.

Well, that and a lot of defensive ad hominem, and more whining about the past, due a lack of any actual retort.

#79 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-19 03:28 PM | Reply

"Like I said, still no plan for how to fight ISIS without bombs or troops, which is what you appear to be demanding Obama do."

Now you're just lying again.

Some of what I said agrees with Obama. Some of it doesn't. What I specifically object to is fighting against stable governments in the region and arming one group of jihadists who hates us in order to fight another.

In the case of Libya, I told you he was making mistakes as he was making them. He has since admitted that things did not turn out well there. And you still insist that he was right.

There is no reasoning with someone who is dishonest and unwilling to participate in reality.

#80 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-19 03:38 PM | Reply

ISIS is terrified by your prevarications.

#81 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-19 03:44 PM | Reply

- fighting against stable governments in the region

Both Libya and Syria were in open rebellion. Your fantasies notwithstanding.

But then, what GW did in Iraq, which fits your description, made for a lot damp pantaloons; and the inability to discern the difference.

#82 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-19 03:47 PM | Reply

Middle Eastern children are terrified of the senseless bombings faux-Christians like you so cavalierly support.

#83 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-19 03:48 PM | Reply

Ah, war is hell? Glad you discovered that.

Now, tell us how to fight ISIS with no casualties..... we'll wait.

#84 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-19 03:53 PM | Reply

Middle Eastern children are terrified of the senseless bombings faux-Christians like you so cavalierly support.

Then their parents should rise up and overthrow their anti-US governments.

#85 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-10-19 03:56 PM | Reply

Now, tell us how to fight ISIS with no casualties..... we'll wait.

#84 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-19 03:53 PM | Reply | Flag

You can't. And it is stupid and dishonest of you to forward the strawman that I've ever claimed that you can.

But stupid and dishonest seems like all you can muster since you can't refute anything I've actually said.

#86 | Posted by Sully at 2016-10-19 04:21 PM | Reply

Middle Eastern children are terrified of the senseless bombings faux-Christians like you so cavalierly support.

#83 | POSTED BY SULLY

But... but, you support bombing ISIS, as Obama is doing.

Do I detect just a wee bit of hypocrisy and a whole lot duplicitous yammering here?

#87 | Posted by Corky at 2016-10-19 04:52 PM | Reply

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